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Reform election earthquake leaves Starmer facing a revolt

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Just now, BarraMarra said:

My god stop the World i mispelt a word get a grip Avin.

That's what I told you about half a dozen posts ago.

You decided to ignore my advice and make things up.

It was funny though. Thanks for the laughs.

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    And with the fall of Starmer,The far lefts hopes of Globalization / open borders/ are dashed. Nigel brings back normalcy ,nationalism/deportations and common sense.

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    Obviously a million times better than Starmer and co, but Im not convinced Farage will be the magic bullet to end the systematic wiping out of Britishness. Restore led by common sense patriot Rupert L

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    Let’s be frank, Keir_Starmer You Lost because we hate you. We hate you because of Southport. We hate you for attacking pensioners and farmers. We HATE you for allowing unvetted illegals of fighting

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6 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

That's what I told you about half a dozen posts ago.

You decided to ignore my advice and make things up.

It was funny though. Thanks for the laughs.

Fill your hole faster you have made for yourself with your stupid attempts to dig yourself out Avin. Your making a fool of yourself.

24 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

As for illegal Caucasian Muslims in UK, I guess demographics of Islam in Europe is another subject to add to your list once you've completed your history studies and then compare your findings with the numbers of suspected illegals in UK from each country.

i won't be doing any comparisons or making any lists, I'll leave that to you , as you were the one publicly whingeing because an image you saw of muslims contained only Asian muslims

2 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

i won't be doing any comparisons or making any lists, I'll leave that to you , as you were the one publicly whingeing because an image you saw of muslims contained only Asian muslims

I don't recall whinging. I was making a point. Then I made suggestion that would educate you.

You've declined the advice and that's fine.

9 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Fill your hole faster you have made for yourself with your stupid attempts to dig yourself out Avin. Your making a fool of yourself.

Stop talking in to that mirror, you'll break it. 🤣🤣🤣

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5 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

Stop talking in to that mirror, you'll break it.

5 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

Stop talking in to that mirror, you'll break it. 🤣🤣🤣

I suggest you slink away before you fall into the hole you Dug youravin.

2 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

I suggest you slink away before you fall into the hole you Dug youravin.

There are no holes. Only facts but I'll let you pkay your game. 🤣🤣🤣

49 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

There are no holes. Only facts but I'll let you pkay your game. 🤣🤣🤣

I'll save you the time don't respond to my posts.

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12 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Links or it didn't happen.

BTW English is an ethnicity. Referring to an ethnic group sharing Anglo saxon and Celtic roots. That is not my opinion that is an accepted fact in sociology and anthropology.

It is therefore entirely accurate to state that an African or Asian immigrant is not English. They may have British citizenship but they are not ethnically English.

They may feel English just as a trans woman feels like a woman. But just as a trans woman is not biologically female an African immigrant is not ethnically English.

My Thai wife, who lives in England and is a British citizen, is English as far as I’m concerned and some Johnny-come-lately expat living 8,000 miles away in a semi-authoritarian country doesn’t get to dictate the rules on identity to me.

Besides, ethnicity, nationality, borders, language the whole lot is ultimately socially constructed anyway. So politely take your cloaked racism and keep it to yourself. Somehow the qouting got mixed up hence my italics.

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I see the racist Benidorm Brits (who move abroad to Thailand for a better life as immigrants) are out in force in this thread.

5 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

I'll save you the time don't respond to my posts.

It's my understanding Asean Now is an open forum.

I look forward to future conversations.

I don't block many people only in Extreme cases, I just find you Obtrusive and unwilling to accept most Post's you don't agree with, and you try and show a high degree of Petulence to other members so I won't be exchanging post's with you anymore, have a good day Bazza.

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8 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

I see the racist Benidorm Brits (who move abroad to Thailand for a better life as immigrants) are out in force in this thread.

Are they freeloaders living on the Thai taxpayers? Living in free hotels or houses? Getting free iphones upon landing at Swampy? Forcing Thais to change their culture to accomodate the newcomers religious beliefs? Running amok with knives at Thai childrens dance classes? Getting concerned Thai mothers banged up in prison for voicing fears for their babies?

No. So that was a pretty dumb comparison wasn't it🤣😅

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2 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Are they freeloaders living on the Thai taxpayers? Living in free hotels or houses? Getting free iphones upon landing at Swampy? Forcing Thais to change their culture to accomodate the newcomers religious beliefs? Running amok with knives at Thai childrens dance classes? Getting concerned Thai mothers banged up in prison for voicing fears for their babies?

No. So that was a pretty dumb comparison wasn't it?

Not really as he said "immigrants". Your comment refers to asylum seekers.

By the way, they dont get iPhones.

Have you not seen the white shirt black trouser brigade riding around on their bicycles trying to convert Thdis to their religion?

12 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

My Thai wife, who lives in England and is a British citizen, is English as far as I’m concerned and some Johnny-come-lately expat living 8,000 miles away in a semi-authoritarian country doesn’t get to dictate the rules on identity to me.

Besides, ethnicity, nationality, borders, language the whole lot is ultimately socially constructed anyway. So politely take your cloaked racism and keep it to yourself. Somehow the qouting got mixed up hence my italics.

so does that mean that us expats living in Thailand are Thai citizens "as far as you are concerned" not that I'm bothered,

Do you not live in Thailand with your British citizen Thai mrs ? there's a guy lives near me who used to proudly tell us all how his Thai missis was back in the UK working to support his life here, turns out she was getting banged rotten , ended up pregnant and had no idea who's it was. not seen him around for a while.

13 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

so does that mean that us expats living in Thailand are Thai citizens "as far as you are concerned" not that I'm bothered,

Do you not live in Thailand with your British citizen Thai mrs ? there's a guy lives near me who used to proudly tell us all how his Thai missis was back in the UK working to support his life here, turns out she was getting banged rotten , ended up pregnant and had no idea who's it was. not seen him around for a while.

I live 3 months in the winter and we are both retired and happy amd have been married 30 years - like I said you can call her whatever you want - the difference is that she is British in the eyes of the British authrorities and they, if they cared would be happy if she self-identified as English the converse doen't apply to you in Thailand - you are a farang and always will be.

12 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

I see the racist Benidorm Brits (who move abroad to Thailand for a better life as immigrants) are out in force in this thread.

They are aren't they. It's not Britain that is broke but them and they project their shortcomings onto the country they left.

1 minute ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

I live 3 months in the winter and we are both retired and happy amd have been married 30 years - like I said you can call her whatever you want - the difference is that she is British in the eyes of the British authrorities and they, if they cared would be happy if she self-identified as English the converse doen't apply to you in Thailand - you are a farang and always will be.

As are you , but who cares? you said yourself it was all just a social construct Her citizenship might not be so assured once Nigel becomes PM

12 hours ago, DonniePeverley said:

I see the racist Benidorm Brits (who move abroad to Thailand for a better life as immigrants) are out in force in this thread.

It is interesting social experiment. Thailand recently starts to build real border, but for many decade had "no" border in sense can just ignore any rules, if any. Not so long since agent would take passport out and back in for stamp while you sit in Bangkok.

So is pro-immigration movement OK with even effective abolishing the UK border, but:

  1. Immigrant can never be UK citizen (0.1% maybe)

  2. Child also not UK citizen except maybe if mother is the "White British"

  3. Immigrant/child cannot serve in army, police

  4. Immigrant often discriminated against in the public services, including medical seervice

  5. Immigrant must not work BUT must also spend money, including for "open border"

  6. Government mostly does not, but CAN detain/deport any immigrant any time for any or no or false reason

If not OK, maybe really about something else...

Well.

it is true in America

America is lost

best now to keep cash under your pillow

1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

so does that mean that us expats living in Thailand are Thai citizens as far as you are concerned" not that I'm bothered,

Do you not live in Thailand with your British citizen Thai mrs ? there's a guy lives near me who used to proudly tell us all how his Thai missis was back in the UK working to support his life here, turns out she was getting banged rotten , ended up pregnant and had no idea who's it was. not seen him around for a while.

Do you have a Thai passport? Your answer to that question will also be the answer to "does that mean that us expats living in Thailand are Thai citizens?"

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1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

I'm not sure , it may well be one of their plans, Lets wait until they reveal their election manifesto , Whilst that won't be legally binding of course, I think Farage might at least try to fulfill the promises he makes I wouldn't worry too much Reform and Farage are often misquoted or have their words taken deliberately out of context, and as we know all politicians are famous for not delivering on their election promises, and that does sound like an impossibly ambitious plan

More likely those who have been offered indefinite leave to remain more recently might see their applications being freshly scrutinised, and that's not a bad thing, certain lefty civil servants and immigration employees are suspected to have allowed their personal feelings to take precedence over regulations

On September 2025, Reform UK announced plans to abolish Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR) if they win a general election. Their policy proposes replacing ILR with renewable five-year visas, forcing current holders to meet strict new criteria to remain, though this would not apply to those with EU settled status.

The unworkable bit would be the blanket cancellation of existing ones. However, I am in broad agreement with their intention to replace it with a 5-year renewable visas and the stricter vetting procedures, higher income thresholds, blocking access to state benefits and ending citizenship entitlement for children in lieu of a renewable, residency-based criteria. Note that a fair amount of essential manpower and labour is provided by those on ILR, and their siblings, so this could impact some of the public services that are taken for granted.

Careful choice 5 year so will only be renewwed after the 5 year term of parliament probably by Sir Starmer 🤣

Reality if "renewable" visa would ever not be renewed, would also just deport tomorrow.

Well looks like a leadersship challenge as the now former Health Secretary has jumped into the lifeboat informing Starmer he ( Starmer ) will not lead the labour party into the next election and in his resignation letter to starmer Streeting said where we neen vision you put us in a vacuem. Slippery Starmer was praising Streeting last night saying he has full confidence in Wes lol.

After the resignation of Wes Streeting yesterday, we now read that Josh Simons has said he will stand down as MP for Makerfield to make way for Andy Burnham to stand in the By-Election his resignation will trigger.

The turmoil inside the Labour party is cataclysmic, with everyone in the party looking over their shoulder for someone with a metaphoric dagger in their hand.

Labour are not fit to govern the country, and they much prefer the luxury of being in opposition, where they can shout student politic slogans at the government.

What a mess the country is in, and how ironic it would be if the Labour majority of 5,400 were to be overturned by Reform at the impending By-Election in Makerfield. 🤞

7 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Well looks like a leadersship challenge as the now former Health Secretary has jumped into the lifeboat informing Starmer he ( Starmer ) will not lead the labour party into the next election and in his resignation letter to starmer Streeting said where we neen vision you put us in a vacuem. Slippery Starmer was praising Streeting last night saying he has full confidence in Wes lol.

More importantly, a Labour MP in Gtr Manchester has resigned, and Andy Burnham has confirmed he will be applying to stand for Labour in the by-election. Let's see if Starmer/NEC try to block him. Also, I'd expect Reform and the Greens to try everything they can to win the by-election and they could easily do so. Voters don't like being manipulated!

57 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

More importantly, a Labour MP in Gtr Manchester has resigned, and Andy Burnham has confirmed he will be applying to stand for Labour in the by-election. Let's see if Starmer/NEC try to block him. Also, I'd expect Reform and the Greens to try everything they can to win the by-election and they could easily do so. Voters don't like being manipulated!

Very valid point about voters not liking to be manipulated, and basically used as pawns in one man’s political ambitions.

Starmer has apparently said he will not block him from standing, so in reality, Reform are his main concern, despite Labour holding a majority of 5,400 in Makerfield.

I would like to think that Labour have someone better than Burnham, if Starmer is to be toppled.

Sorry to say, there is no LONGER competent leadship in this world. They all have been polluted by the WEF or whatever is controlling the worlds population.

the PM of Japan has got it right, buzz the fk off the muslims here downtown block the street for 3 times prayer, can you belive this crap, now they are saying japan is OUR country. The PM lady is saying " you may tell us your plans to over take us you you are doing in thailand, she bluntly said, your passport, "DENIENED ENTRY PERMANTLY AND WITH DTAC LIKE THAILAND " finger prints and facial recongion good for both countries.

1 hour ago, camper star said:

Sorry to say, there is no LONGER competent leadship in this world. They all have been polluted by the WEF or whatever is controlling the worlds population.

the PM of Japan has got it right, buzz the fk off the muslims here downtown block the street for 3 times prayer, can you belive this crap, now they are saying japan is OUR country. The PM lady is saying " you may tell us your plans to over take us you you are doing in thailand, she bluntly said, your passport, "DENIENED ENTRY PERMANTLY AND WITH DTAC LIKE THAILAND " finger prints and facial recongion good for both countries.

Can anyone translate this?

11 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Well looks like a leadersship challenge as the now former Health Secretary has jumped into the lifeboat informing Starmer he ( Starmer ) will not lead the labour party into the next election and in his resignation letter to starmer Streeting said where we neen vision you put us in a vacuem. Slippery Starmer was praising Streeting last night saying he has full confidence in Wes lol.

Looks like we are spoilt for choice with the stunning array of Labour would be PM's

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