4 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Israel wants peace like pizza wants pineapple.

Israel has no other choice , either live with daily missile attacks and not fire back , or fire missiles back and have no daily missiles attacks

23 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

There could be a U.N peace keeping force in Lebanon .

Do you think that would work ?

Would that bring peace to the region ?

Wasn't there one up there before? One that the Israelis ignored when they weren't shooting at them?

1 minute ago, NanLaew said:

You've missed a few then. Happens.

There may have been , but there are reports of numerous nationality's fighting in that area .

Recently its seems to be the French causing a disturbance in that location

4 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Wasn't there one up there before? One that the Israelis ignored when they weren't shooting at them?

It was well documented and reported .

It was well reported that Hezbollah were hiding among/behind The UN peacekeepers and firing rockets at Israel and Israel fired back at the rocket launcers .

How come you don't know that ?

Were you deliberately just trying to blame Israel, or did you really didn't know ?

If the latter, why didn't you know the reality ?

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

It was well documented and reported .

It was well reported that Hezbollah were hiding among/behind The UN peacekeepers and firing rockets at Israel and Israel fired back at the rocket launcers .

How come you don't know that ?

Were you deliberately just trying to blame Israel, or did you really didn't know ?

If the latter, why didn't you know the reality ?

Thanks for your "well documented" information and comments on what I see as "reality". As always, very much appreciated.

Maybe I didn't know this because factual evidence of UNIFIL infiltration or firing rockets from UNIFIL positions is scarcer than hen's teeth. It's undeniable they have policed a hot zone, but the only allegations I can see of their being compromised, come from IDF investigations of the possible bribery and co-opting of some UNIFIL peacekeepers.

UNIFIL has suffered 358 fatalities since its inception 48 years ago, with some attributed to Hezbollah, some attributed to the IDF and their proxies and the remainder from unidentified elements.

5 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Maybe I didn't know this because factual evidence of UNIFIL infiltration or firing rockets from UNIFIL positions is scarcer than hen's teeth. It's undeniable they have policed a hot zone, but the only allegations I can see of their being compromised, come from IDF investigations of the possible bribery and co-opting of some UNIFIL peacekeepers.

There is the answer, the reports come from Israel and thus you do not believe them .

So, why did Israel shoot the UN peacekeepers ?

22 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

There is the answer, the reports come from Israel and thus you do not believe them .

So, why did Israel shoot the UN peacekeepers ?

You only have the answer to what you think I do not believe.

As to your question, where did I say the IDF shot UNIFIL soldiers? There's plenty evidence that UNIFIL soldiers have been killed during IDF air strikes and IDF tank shells as well as by strikes by Hezbollah and other unidentified bad actors. It's a war zone after all.

Maybe the most notable incident was when IDF air force targeted a UNTSO observation post in 2006, killing 4 peacekeepers. After much international pressure, the IDF released the results of their investigation on paper only. The IDF claimed human error and a misidentified hostile target. This despite the observation post being there as long as Israel and being clearly identified and acknowledged as such. It's also claimed that persistent attempts to contact IDF command by the UN staff were fruitless when nobody picked up the phone.

17 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

You only have the answer to what you think I do not believe.

As to your question, where did I say the IDF shot UNIFIL soldiers? There's plenty evidence that UNIFIL soldiers have been killed during IDF air strikes and IDF tank shells as well as by strikes by Hezbollah and other unidentified bad actors. It's a war zone after all.

Maybe the most notable incident was when IDF air force targeted a UNTSO observation post in 2006, killing 4 peacekeepers. After much international pressure, the IDF released the results of their investigation on paper only. The IDF claimed human error and a misidentified hostile target. This despite the observation post being there as long as Israel and being clearly identified and acknowledged as such. It's also claimed that persistent attempts to contact IDF command by the UN staff were fruitless when nobody picked up the phone.

2006 ?

Hezbollah were firing missiles from the area supposed to be occupied by UN Peacekeepers , the UK peacekeepers didn't stop the missile attacks , absolutely no point in them being there .

Israel and Hezbollah continued their regular rocket etches and the UN sometimes got caught up in it

Which is precisely why to inject nonviolent activists into this situation.

6 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

It was well reported that Hezbollah were hiding among/behind The UN peacekeepers and firing rockets at Israel and Israel fired back at the rocket launcers .

Ah, the old human shield BS. Haven´t heard of it for a while.

I never understood how that is supposed to work.

Israel used to excuse the huge loss of civilians in Gaza by claiming that Hamas was using them as human Shields.

Let's forget for a minute that they never presented any proof for that, quite the opposite,  the only pictures I ever saw, displaying any actions like that, were showing IDF soldiers using Palestinians, sometimes elderly sometimes little children as human shields.

But let's assume it's true.

How does a Hamas fighter benefit from that?

What's the point of literally shielding yourself with a person, as the bullets from most firearms would easily penetrate his body and then hit you? Not to mention that one human shield might cover the front of a fighter but not the sides.

Let´s assume you found yourself a fat 120 Kilo guy to abuse as a human shield and his body stops a bullet or two. The minute he is hit, he will collapse and you are exposed.

If the purpose of a human shield was some kind of deterrence to discourage the IDF of shooting at you, well after the first 3000 or 4000 killed civilians I think even the dumbest Hamas fighter should have realized, that this somehow does not work, at least not with the IDF.

And one must really believe in that 72-virgin thing to have your human shield and most likely yourself killed just to damage Israel’s reputation not to mention that Israel has shown on a daily base that it does not care about that at all.

I mean their favorite targets are schools and hospitals.

Seriously, why are those bad guys still hiding their rockets and missiles there especially after Israel flattened every university, school and hospital in Gaza?

Or should the question be, are they really hiding their weapons in there or is that just another Israeli lie to justify the destruction of hospitals and education facilities with the purpose to multipel the death toll of a population while at the same time to destroy the future of a people by massacring their children.

12 hours ago, Somjot said:

Or should the question be, are they really hiding their weapons in there or is that just another Israeli lie to justify the destruction of hospitals and education facilities with the purpose to multipel the death toll of a population while at the same time to destroy the future of a people by massacring their children.

You're not suggesting that old genocide chestnut, are you?

14 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Which is precisely why to inject nonviolent activists into this situation.

What will they do ?

Ask Hezbollah to stop firing rockets into Israel ?

March around chanting slogans ?

35 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

What will they do ?

Ask Hezbollah to stop firing rockets into Israel ?

March around chanting slogans ?

Insert themselves into the situation while assisting the Lebanese in any way they need. Healthcare, education, building come to mind.

Meanwhile, these activists will be the real human shields, in danger from both sides.

This could, Nick, cause both sides to go nuts and mow activists down. Or it might just give them pause. That's the aim. I've seen soldiers throw down their weapons and, believe me, it's an inspiring sight.

No kumbaya required. Just courage and belief in nonviolence.

1 minute ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Insert themselves into the situation while assisting the Lebanese in any way they need. Healthcare, education, building come to mind.

Meanwhile, these activists will be the real human shields, in danger from both sides.

This could, Nick, cause both sides to go nuts and mow activists down. Or it might just give them pause. That's the aim. I've seen soldiers throw down their weapons and, believe me, it's an inspiring sight.

No kumbaya required. Just courage and belief in nonviolence.

What is stopping you from going there and doing it ?

4 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

. I've seen soldiers throw down their weapons and, believe me, it's an inspiring sight.

Where did you see that ?

8 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Where did you see that ?

The Pentagon, 1967.

15 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

The Pentagon, 1967.

Was you on mushrooms at the time ?

1. Enforcement Response: Guards utilized tear gas, physical force, and rifle butts to beat back the crowd.

2. Mass Arrests: The two-day demonstration concluded with over 600 civilian arrests processed by civilian deputy U.S. Marshals

(Not me)

No 'shrooms although I will certainly defend the fact that we levitated the Pentagon! I saw one Guardsman lay down lis rifle and drop his uniform with my own eyes and heard of two others from people I know. Yes, I was one of the 600. We were held in a prison in Arlington. Trying to remember the result. I think they just released us, no recognizance, no orders to appear for trial.

Edited May 15May 15 by unblocktheplanet

On 5/16/2026 at 1:05 AM, unblocktheplanet said:

(Not me)

No 'shrooms although I will certainly defend the fact that we levitated the Pentagon! I saw one Guardsman lay down lis rifle and drop his uniform with my own eyes and heard of two others from people I know. Yes, I was one of the 600. We were held in a prison in Arlington. Trying to remember the result. I think they just released us, no recognizance, no orders to appear for trial.

You are missing one crucial point here:

Those soldiers or policemen were US citizens, who may or may not have shared the same opinion with those more than 100.000 US protesters but at the end of the day, none of them would see the other side as lesser human, which explains that no one died and only 47 were injured.

Now compare that to the IDF.

The Israelis do not see the Palestinians or Lebanese as humans.

Same goes for anyone they think is helping their enemy.

They have said it and acted on it.

Palestinians have not massacred Hundreds of aid workers, medics, journalists, UN staff and more than 20.000 kids.

The Israelis would massacre each and every peace activist and later deny it or blame Hamas like they have always done and only in the few cases when their crimes are undeniable they would claim, it was a mistake.

They executed a 5 year old girl who was begging for her life.

What makes you think they would spare some peace activist?

11 hours ago, Somjot said:

You are missing one crucial point here:

Those soldiers or policemen were US citizens, who may or may not have shared the same opinion with those more than 100.000 US protesters but at the end of the day, none of them would see the other side as lesser human, which explains that no one died and only 47 were injured.

Now compare that to the IDF.

The Israelis do not see the Palestinians or Lebanese as humans.

Same goes for anyone they think is helping their enemy.

They have said it and acted on it.

Palestinians have not massacred Hundreds of aid workers, medics, journalists, UN staff and more than 20.000 kids.

The Israelis would massacre each and every peace activist and later deny it or blame Hamas like they have always done and only in the few cases when their crimes are undeniable they would claim, it was a mistake.

They executed a 5 year old girl who was begging for her life.

What makes you think they would spare some peace activist?

Int'l attention. May be naive but I think it's worth a shot. (Would you like that in the back or head, Sir?)

The land convoy to Gaza was stopped at the Egyptian border where they had an 'altercation' with border guards.

Not my vision. Everybody sitting down, blocking the border until we got to see someone high in govt who would detail the reasons in front of the int'l press.

Border guards are just following orders.