52 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Very true. It is likely Xian Zionists outnumber Jewish Zionists.

51 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

It is definite.

The largest Zionist organization in the United States is Christians United for Israel. It has more than 10 million members. That is three million more than the Jewish population of Israel and more than half the total world population of Jews.

Another 10 to 20 million Evangelical Christians in the U.S. are thought to consider themselves Christian Zionists without belonging to CUFI.

Christian Zionists are an important voter bloc in U.S. elections. AIPAC money is often given credit for pro-Israel candidates winning U.S. elections, but it is actually the votes of Christian Zionists that tipped the balance.

Edited May 23May 23 by Evil Penevil

47 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Anyone can define a Ham Sandwich anyway they want.

This is the nature of language, and especially formal logic.

The question is how do most people define the term, not only you.

I am not advocating you eat ham, unless it is Kosher ham.

I am not even advocating for the RIGHT to eat a ham sandwich.

However, if we are to communicate with our fellows, we must strive to understand the common definition of the words we use.

Duh.

That's just a fleshed out version of what I've been saying.

Again Zionism and support or opposition to Israeli government actions are separate things.

Funny you think that I eat Kosher and that you can troll me with ham sandwiches.

I think that secular Jews are fully Jews the same as religious Jews. Some religious Jews don't agree. 100 Jews 100 opinions.

On 5/22/2026 at 4:05 PM, unblocktheplanet said:

Wherever you find Jews, you will find Jews against Zionism and Israel’s wars. Their websites can be found online.

Which goes to show that Jews have various individual opinions .

Diverse opinions on subjects .

Unlike Muslins who all think the same thing .

Where are the Muslims groups that oppose Hamas and Hezbollah ?

14 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

The largest Zionist organization in the United States is Christians United for Israel. It has more than 10 million members. That is three million more than the Jewish population of Israel and more than half the total world population of Jews.

Another 10 to 20 million Evangelical Christians in the U.S. are thought to consider themselves Christian Zionists without belonging to CUFI.

Christian Zionists are an important voter bloc in U.S. elections. AIPAC money is often given credit for pro-Israel candidates winning U.S. elections, but it is actually the votes of Christian Zionists that tipped the balance.

PT Barnum had it right. Ditto Honest Abe. Not to mention banker David Bannom.

If US elections were honest, they'd ban lobbyists and PACs or at least limit their contributions to $100k as does Canada.

14 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Duh.

That's just a fleshed out version of what I've been saying.

Again Zionism and support or opposition to Israeli government actions are separate things.

Funny you think that I eat Kosher and that you can troll me with ham sandwiches.

Are you one of those Pakistanis deported from Ireland, Jing?

Just now, unblocktheplanet said:

Are you one of those Pakistanis deported from Ireland, Jing?

Another senior moment?

1 minute ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Are you one of those Pakistanis deported from Ireland, Jing?

You now very well that he isn't .

Why did you ask that question ?

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Which goes to show that Jews have various individual opinions .

Diverse opinions on subjects .

Unlike Muslins who all think the same thing .

Where are the Muslims groups that oppose Hamas and Hezbollah ?

That is a truly interesting question. No matter what you may think of me, you bring up important topics.

I don't think you can generalise that all people of any strain are hoodwinked to think the same (except, of course, hypermilitarised Israelis!). I don't see a lot of warmongering or support coming out of most Middle Eastern Muslim majority countries.

We need to divide this into opinions with the populations and what govts say (often, everywhere, with forked tongue).

"Political rivals within the Palestinian territories, such as the Palestinian Authority (PA), frequently express frustration with Hamas's separate armed units and governance. Many Gazans have historically preferred Palestinian Authority security officials to administer the region.

"Public opinion within the Muslim world remains heavily divided along sectarian and geopolitical lines. While certain factions and populations support these groups as resistance movements, other Muslim publics—particularly in Sunni-majority nations—view them as proxies for Iranian expansionism or sources of domestic turmoil.

"Lebanese government officials—including Prime Minister Nawaf Salam—have repeatedly condemned Hezbollah’s unsanctioned military operations from southern Lebanon. They argue that Hezbollah's actions undermine the authority of the Lebanese state, violate sovereignty, and drag the country into devastating external conflicts.

"Radical Sunni groups such as Al-Qaeda and ISIS frequently denounce Hamas as well. These extremist factions criticize Hamas for acting as a nationalist group rather than pursuing a globally oriented agenda, and for suppressing Salafi-jihadi factions in Gaza. (Denouncement by Al-Qaeda!)"

6 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

That is a truly interesting question. No matter what you may think of me, you bring up important topics.

I don't think you can generalise that all people of any strain are hoodwinked to think the same (except, of course, hypermilitarised Israelis!). I don't see a lot of warmongering or support coming out of most Middle Eastern Muslim majority countries.

So, where are the Muslims groups that support Israel ?

You have posted many Jewish groups that support Palestine .

Where is the opposite equivalent ?

They don't exist .

There is very little diversity in Muslims opinions .

They all believe what it says in the Koran .

The same opinion

Edited May 23May 23 by Nick Carter icp

40 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Funny you think that I eat Kosher and that you can troll me with ham sandwiches.

How many times must I insist that I am not a troll before you finally get the message?

This is what I would like to know.

Also, while we are on your topic of "meaning".....

I object to the traditional meaning of Ham as being always derived from PORK.....as follows....

I know Zionism when I see it, by the way.

And, the worst Zionists walking on this Earth are the Christian Zionists...(only based on my opinion and experience in life)...

7 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

How many times must I insist that I am not a troll before you finally get the message?

This is what I would like to know.

Also, while we are on your topic of "meaning".....

I object to the traditional meaning of Ham as being always derived from PORK.....as follows....

I know Zionism when I see it, by the way.

And, the worst Zionists walking on this Earth are the Christian Zionists...(only based on my opinion and experience in life)...

I submit that the Zionists that you disdain is because of reasons other than the definition you provided.

I disdain many Zionists as well also for reasons other than the definition.

A great example is Netanyahu.

13 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I submit that the Zionists that you disdain is because of reasons other than the definition you provided.

I disdain many Zionists as well also for reasons other than the definition.

A great example is Netanyahu.

Should we mention Set Theory, at this point?

What kind of an element is The BB?

Edited May 23May 23 by GammaGlobulin

18 hours ago, Yagoda said:

troll

More fantasy and defense-mechanisms from the Jewry on here. I wouldn't know how to troll.🙂

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

So, where are the Muslims groups that support Israel ?

You have posted many Jewish groups that support Palestine .

Where is the opposite equivalent ?

They don't exist .

There is very little diversity in Muslims opinions .

They all believe what it says in the Koran .

The same opinion

Absolutely correct, an oversight.

Several Muslim-led political groups, civil society organizations, and prominent movements publicly support or advocate for peaceful coexistence, normalization, and political alliances with Israel.

• Ra'am (United Arab List): An Arab-Israeli political party that serves as the political wing of the Southern Branch of the Islamic Movement in Israel. Ra'am made history in 2021 by joining a governing coalition in the Knesset. They prioritize the civil and economic rights of Arab citizens within Israel while engaging in pragmatic cooperation with the Israeli state.

• Sharaka: Founded by young leaders from Israel, Bahrain, Morocco, and the UAE, this NGO focuses on building civil society partnerships and dialogue between Muslims and Israelis in the wake of the Abraham Accords.

• The Muslim Leadership Initiative (MLI): Sponsored by the Shalom Hartman Institute, MLI is a North American educational program that engages Muslim-American leaders in exploring Zionism, Israeli society, and the Jewish state.

• The Kurdish-American Education Society: Kurdish advocacy groups and figures in the Middle East have historically supported Israel and Zionism. Many view an alliance with Israel as a natural strategic partnership against shared regional adversaries in the Middle East.

• Azerbaijan: As a Muslim-majority country, Azerbaijan is a steadfast political and strategic ally of Israel. Their close ties—which involve significant energy and defense cooperation—serve as an important geopolitical counterweight in the region

25 minutes ago, Packer said:

More fantasy and defense-mechanisms from the Jewry on here. I wouldn't know how to troll.🙂

This is just like a troll, calling a non-troll a troll.

8 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

This is just like a troll, calling a non-troll a troll.

Yeah okay Eminem.

1 hour ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Absolutely correct, an oversight.

Several Muslim-led political groups, civil society organizations, and prominent movements publicly support or advocate for peaceful coexistence, normalization, and political alliances with Israel.

• Ra'am (United Arab List): An Arab-Israeli political party that serves as the political wing of the Southern Branch of the Islamic Movement in Israel. Ra'am made history in 2021 by joining a governing coalition in the Knesset. They prioritize the civil and economic rights of Arab citizens within Israel while engaging in pragmatic cooperation with the Israeli state.

• Sharaka: Founded by young leaders from Israel, Bahrain, Morocco, and the UAE, this NGO focuses on building civil society partnerships and dialogue between Muslims and Israelis in the wake of the Abraham Accords.

• The Muslim Leadership Initiative (MLI): Sponsored by the Shalom Hartman Institute, MLI is a North American educational program that engages Muslim-American leaders in exploring Zionism, Israeli society, and the Jewish state.

• The Kurdish-American Education Society: Kurdish advocacy groups and figures in the Middle East have historically supported Israel and Zionism. Many view an alliance with Israel as a natural strategic partnership against shared regional adversaries in the Middle East.

• Azerbaijan: As a Muslim-majority country, Azerbaijan is a steadfast political and strategic ally of Israel. Their close ties—which involve significant energy and defense cooperation—serve as an important geopolitical counterweight in the region

So, if Muslims also have the same kind of groups , why did you start a thread JUST about Jews ?

Back to google for you