5 hours ago, ColeBOzbourne said:

Just out of curiosity, for those who prefer to avoid violence, including myself, how do you feel after you swallow your pride and walk away from potential violence. I know how I feel. Imagine someone trying to bully you into a fight, and your brain and all your peaceful talk will not calm the situation. You try to remove yourself from the situation, but the bully pushes you, calls you names, humiliates you in public or in front of your girlfriend, throws his drink on you, laughs in your face, and gives you a goodbye kick in the ass as you walk away with your tail between your legs. How do you feel when you get home and look at yourself in the mirror? How long does that feeling last? Deep inside, would you feel like you had made the right choice?

That's a very specific set of circumstances.

In reality, confrontations rarely go from zero to physical violence in a matter of seconds.

Most escalate through a series of warning signs, and those signs are usually easy enough to recognise. The sensible response is to de-escalate, create distance, and remove yourself from the situation long before it reaches that point.

That said, if you've genuinely walked away, created space, and attempted to disengage, yet the other person continues to pursue you and re-enters your personal space in an aggressive manner, there may come a point where self-defence becomes necessary. Every situation is fact-specific.

Age matters too. As we get older, our physical capabilities change. We also have no idea what the other person is capable of, whether they're carrying a weapon, intoxicated, mentally unstable, or simply looking for trouble. The fact that some people treat violence as a first response says more about their maturity than anything else. Walking away isn't weakness; it's common sense.

Personally, I have no interest in protecting my ego. I can handle someone shouting abuse, throwing a drink, or even taking a cheap shot. Pride heals quickly. Criminal records, civil liability, immigration problems and financial consequences tend to last a lot longer.

Where my family is concerned, however, the equation changes. If someone poses a genuine threat to my wife or child, then my responsibility is to protect them. Most people would feel the same.

As for the scenario above, how would I feel when I got home? Perfectly satisfied. Not because I'd "won" a fight, but because I'd exercised restraint. I once saw a small lad spit in the face of a guy who was clearly more powerful, a foot taller, and could easily have taken him - he chose the high road and turned away - one of the coolest calmest things I've seen.

If somebody chooses to assault another person in a bar covered by CCTV, surrounded by witnesses, they're often creating problems for themselves that extend far beyond that evening. Sometimes the most damaging consequences are legal and administrative rather than physical.

There are also aspects of Thai law that many people misunderstand. Self-defence is recognised, but only where the response is proportionate and necessary. Once retaliation exceeds defence, you can quickly find yourself on the wrong side of the argument. The law looks closely at who initiated the violence, whether the threat was ongoing, and whether the response was reasonable in the circumstances - even whether a retaliatory hand was closed or open, even the time of day matters.

I witnessed an example of this recently. A man in a bar spent hours aggravating those around him. His behaviour steadily escalated until he eventually punched a smaller individual several times and dropped him to the floor. The victim was dazed but conscious. Surprisingly, nobody called the police.

Had I been the victim, I would have taken a different approach. Report the assault. Obtain identification. Preserve CCTV footage. Seek medical assessment. File a formal complaint and follow it through. Let the system do the heavy lifting.

People casually say "deport him" in online discussions, but the reality is that a assault, criminal conviction, or immigration scrutiny can have significant consequences for any foreigner in Thailand. The risk is very real.

Ultimately, the smartest victory is not winning the confrontation. It's avoiding it altogether. Walk away if you can. Create distance. Let the other person make the mistakes. Life is generally far easier when you don't allow somebody else's lack of self-control to become your problem.

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

Along with predators who see the women as something to control and use, thinking a lax enforcement they hear about will allow them to do whatever they want and not get but a slap on the wrist, unlike back home where you might get decades in jail for forcing yourself on women, especially the underage ones some traffickers sell. It is good to see some officials here are trying to curtail this practice and punish those involved.

Per the OP, violence many times does beget violence.

Some can come from a childhood where parents hit their children, more than a swat on the butt, and come out learning a lesson, depending on what the punishment was for.

Others are hit, hard, with weapons, and end up with a likelihood of doing this to their own children.

Some understand it was wrong, and don't hit their kids, while others can go overboard into abuse.

I was hit but a few times as a child, and out of all 6 of my children, maybe hit them in total 5 times, ending after the second one because it bothered me more then it did them. They all turned out to be decent adults, who didn't hit but disciplined their children (one's who had them so far), and the kids are all doing fine, behaving and respectful.They never disrespected me besides the usual teen talking back. No whatevers.

Remember that parental line: This is going to hurt me more than you.

Yeah, the disrespect in teenagehood (from teenage hoods) is hard to take. I did a lot of yelling.

She recently told me she's forgive me in fifty years. Of course, I'll be long dead!

1 hour ago, Gottfrid said:

hours ago, Olmate said:

Olmate Godfree

Who is Godfree

If an AN forum member was to ask me, I'd say it was you.

23 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Well, we certainly had better music, eh!

You think you did... but didn't the generations before you also say the same ?

I personally believe there is some outstanding music from every genre from all eras.

And when different genre's from different eras overlap - the result can sometimes be amazing.

One of the most iconic recent pieces is posted below - in which an Artist; Tiesto remixes Samuel Barbers Adagio for Strings (a classical piece written in 1938) into a Trans track.

Some of you won't like it - a whole generation love it - was the original better, some may say so, others not - 'ear of the beholder'.

The point I want to make is that 'you didn't have better music' you just think you did because thats what you are / were used to and nostalgia plays a part - then you have Daft Punk etc...

... Die With A Smile" by Lady Gaga & Bruno Mars... "Blinding Lights" by The Weeknd.... it may not be your cup of tea...

... But the next 'generation' will say, their music was better...

IMO - good music is just 'good music' - doesn't matter when its from.

1 hour ago, Tourist2 said:

The hippy / boomer generation and all that went with it (feminism, universal divorces, love of money over everything, legalising gays / gay marriage, unlimited 3rd world immigration et al.) has fkd up western countries and the people in them REALLY BADLY.
Over 50 years reasonable standards of behaviour have been completely removed - I guess that's what attracts many people to Asia: At least some enforcement of decency.

If you have kids and they may ever go to live in the west by all means teach them to fight as standards are still dropping. Better for them to be able to defend themselves but not need to rather than vice versa.

https://x.com/RealChrisLangan/status/2066985782363988014

Hint: it wasn't the hippies. We didn't care about money. We were, and I am, into self-discovery and self-realisation. Expanding one's mind with psychedelics.

Feminism: I liked the no-bras part. Of course, they should get equal pay. Do you mean no-fault divorces, not those where she gets the gold mine and he gets the shaft? You forget single parents, the scourge of society. As for sex, I don't care if anyone f*cks goats in the closet, as long as I don't have to watch; love is love.

Immigration is payback for colonisers. Hard workers wanted. We keep on complaining about the birthrate. No coddling once one gets on ones feet. Of course, I'm talking about Europe.

In the US, yes, I am in favour of fairly unlimited immigration. All the people that come work way harder than Americans, and without whining about it. Many are skilled professionals in their home countries or subject to imprisonment and torture. Should they not "yearn to breathe free" and find a better life.

Mexicans are the pick of the lot. Gracious, kind, welcoming with many skilled in the trades we need. They deserve a chance.

I couldn't agree more that my Ozzie and Harriet, Leave It to Beaver generation was the best. Nobody worried when we walked or biked far out of our neighbourhoods. There were two parents at home, Mom always cooked dinner and Dad drove a beater. We knew our mailman, our barber, our grocery store, our soda counter, our bartender and many more. They kept us kids in line, sometimes with a well-deserved swat. Did parents freak out about that--never!

I think it was worse in Catholic schools. Those old nuns like corporal punishment, probably because Jesus rarely gave them what they needed.

I stayed here because decency is flexible, the rules, in general, are flexible. Friendliness, politeness is everything. That doesn't make us 1950s, it just makes us civilised.

Don't moan about it; it ain't coming back. Watch The Wonder Years and be glad we were there. Our kids and grandkids don't believe it when I tell them what freedom we had.

46 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Remember that parental line: This is going to hurt me more than you.

Yeah, the disrespect in teenagehood (from teenage hoods) is hard to take. I did a lot of yelling.

She recently told me she's forgive me in fifty years. Of course, I'll be long dead!

Impossible to not yell at times, Teenagers aren't normal for awhile.

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Impossible to not yell at times, Teenagers aren't normal for awhile.

So we've ALL (retards aside) agreed that violence is sometimes nessary so... Just for fun...

When the Men Lead

Young Men are Returning to the Church

JUN 16

READ IN APP

But it’s not enough to return, it’s necessary to eliminate the inversive and subversive forces that have eaten away at the organized churches like a satanic cancer for the last 70+ years:

Across pews once dominated by gray heads and empty seats, a new presence is emerging: young men in their twenties, showing up with purpose. This is no fleeting trend or social media mirage. Data from Gallup and Barna confirm what observant Christians have sensed in their congregations — a resurgence of faith among males who, just years ago, seemed lost to secular distractions and cultural confusion.

This shift matters profoundly. For decades, the left’s relentless push toward relativism, identity politics, and self-worship has hollowed out institutions, families, and individual lives. Young men, bearing the brunt of a society that demonized masculinity while celebrating chaos, are discovering what their fathers and grandfathers often took for granted: true strength flows from surrender to a higher calling.

Gallup’s latest findings reveal that 42 percent of young men now consider religion “very important” in their lives — a 14-point jump since 2023 and the highest level in a quarter century. Barna Group reports Gen Z churchgoers attending more frequently than any other generation, marking what they call a “historic reversal.”

Young men are not just warming pews; they are leading the return.

Sociologists [and degens spunking their kid's inheritance in Thailand] scratch their heads at this development, but the reasons are clear to anyone willing to look beyond progressive talking points. The past decade exposed the emptiness of self-expression without boundaries, of activism untethered from truth, and of technology promising connection while delivering isolation. Like rebels of previous eras who chased liberation only to find chains, today’s young men have encountered the void at the heart of modern secularism.

A generation recovering the transcendent will not bow easily to the state as ultimate authority. History bears this out. America’s founding drew strength from biblical principles and men of faith who understood liberty as a divine trust, not a government grant

When young men embrace this inheritance, they become bulwarks against family erosion, educational indoctrination, and the erosion of religious liberty.

Critics on the left dismiss or downplay these trends, perhaps sensing the threat to their narrative of inevitable secular progress. Yet the data keeps mounting, even as some attempt to attribute shifts solely to women’s declining participation rather than men’s revival. The reality in the pews tells otherwise: young men are showing up. engaging, and seeking truth amid the lies.

This resurgence invites the broader church to respond with vigor — not watered-down relevance, but uncompromised proclamation of the Gospel that has always transformed lives and societies. Pastors and leaders must disciple these young men into mature believers ready to build families, defend truth, and engage culture without apology.

The future remains unwritten, but the signs in the sanctuary point toward restoration. As these young men take their place, the reshaping of families, culture, and the nation itself may well follow. The question is whether the church and country will rise to meet this moment with the same resolve they are rediscovering.

Since the 1960s, the church institutions have been subjected to the same institutional invasion, inversion, and rot to which every other Western institution has been subjected, from the Boy Scouts to professional science. The Enlightenment reached the apex of its influence, and that influence turned out to be insidious and intrinsically destructive.

Now Churchian institutions calling themselves everything from “Roman Catholic” and “Baptist” to “Methodist” and “Presbyterian” are led by gays, Gammas, and women teaching false teachings about the evils of racism instead of sin, and the need to celebrate pride rather than repent. They preach that everyone should reject division and burn in Hell together rather than accept the salvation that is on offer to everyone through the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Young men of the 2020s are not the young men of the 1960s. They have seen the terrible results of open borders, free trade, women’s liberation, gay liberation, racial equality, cultural equality, diversity, and inclusion, the whole collection of rotten fruit of the Enlightenment.

They have seen that it was wrong, and now they know that it was all founded on a fiction, on a false philosophical assumption by Kant and his enlightenment b*******. And unlike the previous generations, they are already being tested in a societal forge in which they have far less to lose than their predecessors.

You can listen to the Red Pillers and use your knowledge of what is true to better serve your appetites. It’s a legitimate option, and not the most unpleasant one.
You can live for yourself, live for today, and let tomorrow and the future fend for itself. That is the Boomer philosophy, and it’s not going to work out for you any better than it has for them.

You can listen to the Black Pillers and do your best to ignore everything around you and survive from one day to the next in a shell of indifference and apathy. This, too, is a legitimate option, and it is perhaps the emotionally safest one. This is the Generation X philosophy, and it’s not going to work out for you any better than it has for us.

Or you can read the Bible, you can return to the church, and you can take it back and transform it back into the weapon against a fallen world that it was, that it is, and that it will always be. It won’t be easy. It won’t be immediate. But it will happen.

For when the men lead, the women will follow. They always have and they always will.

The journey of a thousand leagues begins with but a single step.

3 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Oh, I'm glad to hear that you are not a horse 🐴

But maybe you are the horse. I am sure you already knew what was right and wrong before the whip came out. What the whip did was teach you that there are consequences for displeasing those who have power over you, whether it is a teacher, boss, man in a police uniform, or the leader of the country. As you said, if not for the whip, you would be in jail by now. You have learned to fear the shadow of the whip.

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

That's a very specific set of circumstances.

In reality, confrontations rarely go from zero to physical violence in a matter of seconds.

Most escalate through a series of warning signs, and those signs are usually easy enough to recognise. The sensible response is to de-escalate, create distance, and remove yourself from the situation long before it reaches that point.

That said, if you've genuinely walked away, created space, and attempted to disengage, yet the other person continues to pursue you and re-enters your personal space in an aggressive manner, there may come a point where self-defence becomes necessary. Every situation is fact-specific.

Age matters too. As we get older, our physical capabilities change. We also have no idea what the other person is capable of, whether they're carrying a weapon, intoxicated, mentally unstable, or simply looking for trouble. The fact that some people treat violence as a first response says more about their maturity than anything else. Walking away isn't weakness; it's common sense.

Personally, I have no interest in protecting my ego. I can handle someone shouting abuse, throwing a drink, or even taking a cheap shot. Pride heals quickly. Criminal records, civil liability, immigration problems and financial consequences tend to last a lot longer.

Where my family is concerned, however, the equation changes. If someone poses a genuine threat to my wife or child, then my responsibility is to protect them. Most people would feel the same.

As for the scenario above, how would I feel when I got home? Perfectly satisfied. Not because I'd "won" a fight, but because I'd exercised restraint. I once saw a small lad spit in the face of a guy who was clearly more powerful, a foot taller, and could easily have taken him - he chose the high road and turned away - one of the coolest calmest things I've seen.

If somebody chooses to assault another person in a bar covered by CCTV, surrounded by witnesses, they're often creating problems for themselves that extend far beyond that evening. Sometimes the most damaging consequences are legal and administrative rather than physical.

There are also aspects of Thai law that many people misunderstand. Self-defence is recognised, but only where the response is proportionate and necessary. Once retaliation exceeds defence, you can quickly find yourself on the wrong side of the argument. The law looks closely at who initiated the violence, whether the threat was ongoing, and whether the response was reasonable in the circumstances - even whether a retaliatory hand was closed or open, even the time of day matters.

I witnessed an example of this recently. A man in a bar spent hours aggravating those around him. His behaviour steadily escalated until he eventually punched a smaller individual several times and dropped him to the floor. The victim was dazed but conscious. Surprisingly, nobody called the police.

Had I been the victim, I would have taken a different approach. Report the assault. Obtain identification. Preserve CCTV footage. Seek medical assessment. File a formal complaint and follow it through. Let the system do the heavy lifting.

People casually say "deport him" in online discussions, but the reality is that a assault, criminal conviction, or immigration scrutiny can have significant consequences for any foreigner in Thailand. The risk is very real.

Ultimately, the smartest victory is not winning the confrontation. It's avoiding it altogether. Walk away if you can. Create distance. Let the other person make the mistakes. Life is generally far easier when you don't allow somebody else's lack of self-control to become your problem.

I think you must hang out in different circumstances than I.

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

You think you did... but didn't the generations before you also say the same ?

I personally believe there is some outstanding music from every genre from all eras.

And when different genre's from different eras overlap - the result can sometimes be amazing.

One of the most iconic recent pieces is posted below - in which an Artist; Tiesto remixes Samuel Barbers Adagio for Strings (a classical piece written in 1938) into a Trans track.

Some of you won't like it - a whole generation love it - was the original better, some may say so, others not - 'ear of the beholder'.

The point I want to make is that 'you didn't have better music' you just think you did because thats what you are / were used to and nostalgia plays a part - then you have Daft Punk etc...

... Die With A Smile" by Lady Gaga & Bruno Mars... "Blinding Lights" by The Weeknd.... it may not be your cup of tea...

... But the next 'generation' will say, their music was better...

IMO - good music is just 'good music' - doesn't matter when its from.

Of course, I was just joking for exactly that reason! Although I was raised on opera, baroque and classical music. I found the Adagio far too rave for me.

1 hour ago, Tourist2 said:

So we've ALL (retards aside) agreed that violence is sometimes nessary so... Just for fun...

When the Men Lead

Young Men are Returning to the Church

JUN 16

READ IN APP

But it’s not enough to return, it’s necessary to eliminate the inversive and subversive forces that have eaten away at the organized churches like a satanic cancer for the last 70+ years:

Across pews once dominated by gray heads and empty seats, a new presence is emerging: young men in their twenties, showing up with purpose. This is no fleeting trend or social media mirage. Data from Gallup and Barna confirm what observant Christians have sensed in their congregations — a resurgence of faith among males who, just years ago, seemed lost to secular distractions and cultural confusion.

This shift matters profoundly. For decades, the left’s relentless push toward relativism, identity politics, and self-worship has hollowed out institutions, families, and individual lives. Young men, bearing the brunt of a society that demonized masculinity while celebrating chaos, are discovering what their fathers and grandfathers often took for granted: true strength flows from surrender to a higher calling.

Gallup’s latest findings reveal that 42 percent of young men now consider religion “very important” in their lives — a 14-point jump since 2023 and the highest level in a quarter century. Barna Group reports Gen Z churchgoers attending more frequently than any other generation, marking what they call a “historic reversal.”

Young men are not just warming pews; they are leading the return.

Sociologists [and degens spunking their kid's inheritance in Thailand] scratch their heads at this development, but the reasons are clear to anyone willing to look beyond progressive talking points. The past decade exposed the emptiness of self-expression without boundaries, of activism untethered from truth, and of technology promising connection while delivering isolation. Like rebels of previous eras who chased liberation only to find chains, today’s young men have encountered the void at the heart of modern secularism.

A generation recovering the transcendent will not bow easily to the state as ultimate authority. History bears this out. America’s founding drew strength from biblical principles and men of faith who understood liberty as a divine trust, not a government grant

When young men embrace this inheritance, they become bulwarks against family erosion, educational indoctrination, and the erosion of religious liberty.

Critics on the left dismiss or downplay these trends, perhaps sensing the threat to their narrative of inevitable secular progress. Yet the data keeps mounting, even as some attempt to attribute shifts solely to women’s declining participation rather than men’s revival. The reality in the pews tells otherwise: young men are showing up. engaging, and seeking truth amid the lies.

This resurgence invites the broader church to respond with vigor — not watered-down relevance, but uncompromised proclamation of the Gospel that has always transformed lives and societies. Pastors and leaders must disciple these young men into mature believers ready to build families, defend truth, and engage culture without apology.

The future remains unwritten, but the signs in the sanctuary point toward restoration. As these young men take their place, the reshaping of families, culture, and the nation itself may well follow. The question is whether the church and country will rise to meet this moment with the same resolve they are rediscovering.

Since the 1960s, the church institutions have been subjected to the same institutional invasion, inversion, and rot to which every other Western institution has been subjected, from the Boy Scouts to professional science. The Enlightenment reached the apex of its influence, and that influence turned out to be insidious and intrinsically destructive.

Now Churchian institutions calling themselves everything from “Roman Catholic” and “Baptist” to “Methodist” and “Presbyterian” are led by gays, Gammas, and women teaching false teachings about the evils of racism instead of sin, and the need to celebrate pride rather than repent. They preach that everyone should reject division and burn in Hell together rather than accept the salvation that is on offer to everyone through the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Young men of the 2020s are not the young men of the 1960s. They have seen the terrible results of open borders, free trade, women’s liberation, gay liberation, racial equality, cultural equality, diversity, and inclusion, the whole collection of rotten fruit of the Enlightenment.

They have seen that it was wrong, and now they know that it was all founded on a fiction, on a false philosophical assumption by Kant and his enlightenment b*******. And unlike the previous generations, they are already being tested in a societal forge in which they have far less to lose than their predecessors.

You can listen to the Red Pillers and use your knowledge of what is true to better serve your appetites. It’s a legitimate option, and not the most unpleasant one.
You can live for yourself, live for today, and let tomorrow and the future fend for itself. That is the Boomer philosophy, and it’s not going to work out for you any better than it has for them.

You can listen to the Black Pillers and do your best to ignore everything around you and survive from one day to the next in a shell of indifference and apathy. This, too, is a legitimate option, and it is perhaps the emotionally safest one. This is the Generation X philosophy, and it’s not going to work out for you any better than it has for us.

Or you can read the Bible, you can return to the church, and you can take it back and transform it back into the weapon against a fallen world that it was, that it is, and that it will always be. It won’t be easy. It won’t be immediate. But it will happen.

For when the men lead, the women will follow. They always have and they always will.

The journey of a thousand leagues begins with but a single step.

OMG, bring it around to the left! The left! The left! Oh yeah, and don’t forget the gays ruining it for guys like you!

I’m pretty (and) masculine but then again, there is definitely toxic masculinity: Your Body, My Choice. I’m more of an Emperor of the Highway kind of guy.

Of course, women are really second-class citizens, good only for following not leading except when they lead into kitchen or bedroom.

Racism isn’t a sin? On what planet? You sure don’t sound like Our Savior. Or anybody who has the Spirit within them.

It is all in books, all books, not  just Bibles, Qurans and Torahs. Educating oneself about the world in all its variety.

I hope at least churches are allowing sanctuary for immigrants and deserters and that the homeless are allowed to warm the pews and are welcome to stay for services, too.

I hope those young people find something to fill the void, no matter what they call it. But they won’t bring back the 1950s, Dude.

Quite the screed. Do you practice what you preach?

2 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Like nukes???

wow you do come up with meaningless comments

Young man are not even remotely coming back to the church.

The numbers drizzle ever downward for attendance. This bit of right wing copium never fails to amuse me.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

We are lucky to have someone among us who regularly challenges people to fist fights just because they made a small joke.

Hopefully, he will chime in with his always cogent thoughts on whatever new direction Boganism is headed towards.

Edited June 17Jun 17 by Prubangboy

5 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

If an AN forum member was to ask me, I'd say it was you.

Ok, then you have dyslexia! Next!

10 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

If an AN forum member was to ask me, I'd say it was you.

Ok, then you have dyslexia! Next

Your member name is unusual, it's not something I'd remember, it's exact pronunciation or spelling, therefore if I was asked by an AN forum member I'd say and assume most here would say that it was you.
Nothing to do with dyslexia.

Anyway, what does Gottfrid mean, enlighten us all then maybe we will remember?

If I remember, it's also your Facebook name, so another member was saying

Edited June 18Jun 18 by SAFETY FIRST

3 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Anyway, what does Gottfrid mean, enlighten us all then maybe we will remember?

It means God's peace.

4 minutes ago, temuFarang said:

It means God's peace.

Thank you but he doesn't act like a peaceful guy, he always seems so hostile.

11 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Ok, then you have dyslexia! Next!

I was so intrigued I Googled your name, now I will remember how it's spelt until the day I die. 👍

The name Gottfrid is a masculine name of ancient Germanic and Scandinavian origins. It is composed of two primary elements:Gott (or God): Meaning "God".Fried: Meaning "peace" or "protection". Combined, Gottfrid translates directly to "God's peace" or "divine protection".

Cultural & Historical ContextOrigin:

The name dates back to early medieval Europe. It was highly popular among nobility and monarchs in Germanic and Scandinavian regions.European Variants: Because of its widespread influence across Europe, you will find different spellings depending on the region:

Gottfried in Germany

Godfrey or Geoffrey in England

Goffredo in Italy

Gotfrids in Latvia

1 hour ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Your member name is unusual, it's not something I'd remember

Nah, and it´s actually nothing you have to remember. You just have to use a tiny small piece of your brain. Every time you quote a person here on AN, it stand clearly written in the top left of every post. See, how easy it was! See if you can manage that in the future, now. 😂

22 hours ago, bunnydrops said:

A good horse learns to obey the shadow of the whip.

That or in some of our cases it just told us what to expect if we screwed up. In some cases it was worth the bite.

I grew up with a choice: I could take the crap that we were being dealt, or I could earn respect. Earning respect meant standing up for myself, win or lose.

My daughter was getting bullied in Primary school, Grade 6, by 2 girls. She could fight and defend herself, but school policy was against fighting. Sent a letter to the teacher outlining that I understood teachers can't be everywhere, but that meant my daughter had the right to defend herself. School called worried about the letter, and I explained they start harassing here 2X4 on the ground, simple Batter up. She never had to do it because the students who were doing it were warned to stay away. Would she have done it NO doubt in my mind. This same girl, at 13, would walk ahead of the wife and me on Yonge Street downtown (mid 80's) and knew exactly how to handle herself.

On 6/17/2026 at 4:45 PM, bunnydrops said:

But maybe you are the horse. I am sure you already knew what was right and wrong before the whip came out. What the whip did was teach you that there are consequences for displeasing those who have power over you, whether it is a teacher, boss, man in a police uniform, or the leader of the country. As you said, if not for the whip, you would be in jail by now. You have learned to fear the shadow of the whip.

We didn't learn to fear the whip we learned that there are rules and that every action has a reaction.

We learned to be responsible for our actions.

Kind of like Mr In-between

Edited June 19Jun 19 by Hummin

23 hours ago, Hummin said:

Kind of like Mr In-between

Love Mr Inbetween, great show.

On 6/17/2026 at 1:49 PM, Gottfrid said:

Who is Godfree?

An ol hump buddy

13 hours ago, emptypockets said:

Love Mr Inbetween, great show.

Old taxi driver from Sth Aust.

On 6/18/2026 at 9:00 AM, Gottfrid said:

Nah, and it´s actually nothing you have to remember. You just have to use a tiny small piece of your brain. Every time you quote a person here on AN, it stand clearly written in the top left of every post. See, how easy it was! See if you can manage that in the future, now. 😂

Just think square, easy!

Is eating bread in London still necessary?

You guys burned down your entire city once doing that*

Ask Thomas Farriner about that if you have further inquiries. 😜

*And your cousins over in Germany did a pretty good job the second time

15 hours ago, Olmate said:

An ol hump buddy

Ok <deleted> OFF! Now it´s the last time I have my name messed with my here.

11 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Ok <deleted> OFF! Now it´s the last time I have my name messed with my here.

Ooops a" fraudian slip ". Ol buddy of mine G, stress not your safe as there in Pattaya!

10 hours ago, Olmate said:

Ooops a" fraudian slip ". Ol buddy of mine G, stress not your safe as there in Pattaya!

Stop being arrogant! You are a disgrace!