Now before anyone assumes this is intended as a wind up, it is a genuine philosophical study.

My suspicion has always been that most sexual deviance is not a product of nature. It is a product of civilisation.

Think about it.

In caveman times there were no churches, no morality police, no social media outrage mobs, no relationship coaches, no dating apps, no internet forums, no censoring, and no endless lists of things you should or should not be doing.

There were no complicated social rules surrounding sex. Nobody was writing opinion pieces about it. Nobody was monetising it.

Nobody was discussing whether a particular preference was problematic, empowering, toxic, healthy, unhealthy, violating, traditional, modern, or somewhere in between.

Sex was probably viewed in much the same way as eating, sleeping, pinching a loaf, or trying not to get eaten by a sabre toothed tiger.

Just another part of life.

Then civilisation arrived and things started getting interesting. Religions appeared. Taboos appeared. Rules appeared and the concepts of social and societal norms.

Suddenly there were all sorts of things you could not do, should not do, must not think about, and definitely should not be caught doing.

Human beings then did what human beings have always done when told not to think about something. They started thinking about it constantly.

Then along came prostitution, erotic literature, photography, films, magazines, video clips, hidden cameras, and eventually the internet, Pornhub, OnlyFans, and whatever fresh madness is currently being invented.

At that point humanity effectively dedicated a significant portion of its technological progress to finding increasingly creative ways of becoming distracted, or penetrated, depending on how you want to look at it.

Which raises an interesting question.

Did civilisation create sexual deviance?

Or did it simply give people enough free time to stop worrying about predators, famine, and dying at thirty five and start inventing increasingly imaginative hobbies?

Because when I look at modern society, I cannot help wondering whether the average caveman was actually far less obsessed with sex than the average modern human.

Mainly because he had more pressing concerns. Such as not being trampled by a woolly mammoth. Or becoming some beast’s dinner.

Both of which strike me as fairly effective libido management tools.

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I don't know, call me obsessed, but the only thing I can think about 24/7 is Boy George and Raquel Rodeo doing the nasty in a ladyboy mashup. The only thing I still can't work out is which of them is the one riding cowgirl. Or perhaps they just switch off?

I doubt he asked her whether she came.

5 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I doubt he asked her whether she came.

Have they actually started doing that now? Interesting concept...

51 minutes ago, Alpha84 said:

Now before anyone assumes this is intended as a wind up, it is a genuine philosophical study.

My suspicion has always been that most sexual deviance is not a product of nature. It is a product of civilisation.

Think about it.

In caveman times there were no churches, no morality police, no social media outrage mobs, no relationship coaches, no dating apps, no internet forums, no censoring, and no endless lists of things you should or should not be doing.

There were no complicated social rules surrounding sex. Nobody was writing opinion pieces about it. Nobody was monetising it.

Nobody was discussing whether a particular preference was problematic, empowering, toxic, healthy, unhealthy, violating, traditional, modern, or somewhere in between.

Sex was probably viewed in much the same way as eating, sleeping, pinching a loaf, or trying not to get eaten by a sabre toothed tiger.

Just another part of life.

Then civilisation arrived and things started getting interesting. Religions appeared. Taboos appeared. Rules appeared and the concepts of social and societal norms.

Suddenly there were all sorts of things you could not do, should not do, must not think about, and definitely should not be caught doing.

Human beings then did what human beings have always done when told not to think about something. They started thinking about it constantly.

Then along came prostitution, erotic literature, photography, films, magazines, video clips, hidden cameras, and eventually the internet, Pornhub, OnlyFans, and whatever fresh madness is currently being invented.

At that point humanity effectively dedicated a significant portion of its technological progress to finding increasingly creative ways of becoming distracted, or penetrated, depending on how you want to look at it.

Which raises an interesting question.

Did civilisation create sexual deviance?

Or did it simply give people enough free time to stop worrying about predators, famine, and dying at thirty five and start inventing increasingly imaginative hobbies?

Because when I look at modern society, I cannot help wondering whether the average caveman was actually far less obsessed with sex than the average modern human.

Mainly because he had more pressing concerns. Such as not being trampled by a woolly mammoth. Or becoming some beast’s dinner.

Both of which strike me as fairly effective libido management tools.

Where to start with this delicate theme, Alpha? What are your kinks? We are dying to know now. 😁

The human brain has not changed that much in the last 300,000 years, and probably very little in the last 35,000 years. So why assume they had no rituals, no rules, no taboos, or no belief systems? They had ceremonies for the dead, and surely also ceremonies for seasons, hunting, birth, death, and many other things we can only imagine today.

We also have to assume they had morality in some form. Even animals have rules for behaviour. Cross the wrong line in the group, and you are pushed out.

When it comes to sex, exchange, protection, food, status, good genes, and access, we already see versions of this among primates. Homo sapiens depended even more on social structure for survival, so of course power and access were part of that too. Kinky sex sounds more like a luxury when basic survival is already handled. When food, protection, shelter, hygiene, and time are in place, humans have more room for experimenting. Some today even have dirty sex as a kink, so hygiene itself can also become part of the play.