19 minutes ago, XRules said:

The socialist greens run the place now - that is true. But we have no intention of living in the States where they are entrenched with that mentality - NSW, ACT or VIC. We will be going back to QLD where we could actually do things like play golf during Covid - and where the politicians and public servants are much more rational and reasonable. I predict there will be a massive increase in right wing politics n Australia and UK and most of Europe. The lunatic woke left have gone too far and like all socialist they are running out of other people's money - their time in power is coming to an end thank God.

North Queensland is where I live. Paradise.

24 minutes ago, ronnie50 said:

The OP didn't say, but my sense is he's living in a rural area of Thailand.

Moving back to a home country solely on the premise of cheaper/better health care is a personal decision based upon one's health. But when talking about costs in general, one needs to consider all the other costs of relocating. In Thailand he probably wouldn't need to pay tax on his pension - or at least only what is remitted. In Australia, I guess his worldwide income will be taxed in full. The there is the issue of housing. If he still has a place in Aus then that's good. If no place, then welcome to the rat race of finding a rental or paying through the nose to buy an inflated apartment. Because Australian wages are pretty good by Western standards, he can expect everything to cost more than it did when he lived there before.

Living in one of the big 4 Isan cities.

You are right - I will be on medications and ongoing treatments for life - and it will be far too costly to keep paying what they charge me here. I was already taking medications for an ongoing issue that will cost 10% of what I pay here, plus all the things I will be taking (and tests etc.) will be massively lower in costs. Not only are public hospitals free in Aust but medications are heavily subsidised (for Pensioners). I have been to the local Thai hospitals in Isan (family members) and I was not at all impressed. The truth is that Thais are extremely tough people and they recover quickly (or go home and die). They have immunities and a constitution that leaves us Expats for dead - they rarely get sick until late in life. The Thai Govt system is made for them and it is extremely over-loaded and busy. I had always anticipated that I would remain be healthy (that existing issue is with the skin) until about 75-80 - and about then we would go back - but life always interferes with our plans

Taxation in Thailand is an unknown - but it is only a worry - perhaps it will be all good - I hope so, for everyone's sake and the blokes I know who are staying here (although a few have gone to Vietnam). What I am suggesting though, is that Expats take a look at what they will do if Thailand does not make the income and earnings received overseas by Expats exempt from being taxed here. The quality and costs of medical services is the main reason but the tax is also a posiitve.

Plus I am EXTREMELY happy that I will never again have to deal with the Thai Immigration Police and all their BS. We will be coming back to visit the family etc. but I will never again have to deal with that 90 day reporting and annual extensions and address changes and the bank lock downs and all the constant changes and new stupid rules. How Thailand treats me is an absolute disgrace, when compared to how Australia treats my Thai wife, or how I would have been treated in Philippines, Malaysia or Indonesia (Bali) if I had chosen there to retire all those years ago.

I will miss the ordinary Thai people - overall they are wonderful people - who IMO are being exploited by the wealthy Thainese families that run this country.

6 minutes ago, XRules said:

You are right - I will be on medications and ongoing treatments for life - and it will be far too costly to keep paying what they charge me here. I was already taking medications for an ongoing issue that will cost 10% of what I pay here, plus all the things I will be taking (and tests etc.) will be massively lower in costs. Not only are public hospitals free in Aust but medications are heavily subsidised (for Pensioners).

Okay good luck. When you repatriate is there a waiting period to requalify for the free health care, or are you covered immediately? In other words, do you need to prove you are (or have been) living in that State and not just visiting? How does that work? (I'm curious)

2 hours ago, XRules said:

Living in one of the big 4 Isan cities.

You are right - I will be on medications and ongoing treatments for life - and it will be far too costly to keep paying what they charge me here.

You are making the right decision but still think your OP was insincere. You are moving because of the cost of medical the other things are of little concern. 90 day reporting is a breeze and the likelihood of you paying taxes here is minute. You are lucky your wife is a citizen because Australia's visa costs are astronomical (9k Aus dollars-Australian Partner Visa) and it is a pain in the butt. Thailand visa pains are minor and CHEAP!

Sad that medical costs inflation has forced the move but that isn't going to change and probably get much worse. My insurance policy goes up 100% when I turn 60 next year.

Edited Thursday at 10:30 AM5 days by atpeace

5 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Just came across this post.

I don't know if it's true and I don't want to debate it.

But it is possible that Jewish people have been unfairly blamed and scapegoated for historical events.

https://www.amazon.com/British-Invented-Communism-Blamed-Jews/dp/B0D46BB4WV

It's not true and, unsurprisngly, Richards Poe is a .... Jew.

The bolshevik leaders were pretty much ALL jews (Lenin, Trotsky, Yagoda etc.) and Stalin was fluent in Yiddish and married to a jew.
Their financing came from New York but again, we all know who rules NYC too.
Marx lived in London but that doesn't mean he was funded by white gentiles - in fact its very unlikely as COLondon finance is full of jews too.

If you ever want to know who's in charge just ask who you are NOT allowed to criticise (clue: it isn't whites, blacks or Muslims - have a think about it - its not hard).

Edited Thursday at 11:19 AM5 days by Tourist2

1 hour ago, Tourist2 said:

The bolshevik leaders were pretty much ALL jews (Lenin, Trotsky, Yagoda etc.) and Stalin was fluent in Yiddish and married to a jew.

We have a descendent of Yadoda right on this forum.

So we should hide our crypto wallets then?

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

We have a descendent of Yadoda right on this forum.

So we should hide our crypto wallets then?

Yagoda ended up getting the treatment he designed and used to love dishing out.

It's a cool story but you should be wary of anyone who names themselves after a mass murderer - it's the jew equivalent of a gentile choosing 'Hitler' as a user name - <deleted> knows why it's allowed but there you go.

Enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juc6gCDd5-o

On 6/29/2026 at 2:29 AM, BritManToo said:

So you agree with me, the NHS ain't that great.

Simon goes back to mom NHS every time there is an issue with his health. It can't be that bad.

1 hour ago, Celsius said:

Simon goes back to mom NHS every time there is an issue with his health. It can't be that bad.

Yeah, but,

Thai hospital ....... you need to spend millions

NHS .......... there's nothing wrong with you

On 6/29/2026 at 4:10 PM, Jaggg88 said:

Thai Revenue Department Drafts Foreign Income Remittance Tax Relief | HLB Thailand

https://www.hlbthai.com/thai-revenue-department-drafts-foreign-income-remittance-tax-relief/

Unfortunately that article is from May 2025 and it seems to have got shelved when the previous government was disbanded.

I had hoped that the new Government coming in Feb/March time would have got it back on the table by now but in fairness they've had bigger things to worry about with things like the issues with Myanmar/Cambodia & the impacts from the war in Iran.

Edited Thursday at 03:06 PM5 days by SamSpade

12 hours ago, Celsius said:

Simon goes back to mom NHS every time there is an issue with his health. It can't be that bad.

Do you mean me? I've only used the NHS once in 25 years...

20 hours ago, ronnie50 said:

Okay good luck. When you repatriate is there a waiting period to requalify for the free health care, or are you covered immediately? In other words, do you need to prove you are (or have been) living in that State and not just visiting? How does that work? (I'm curious)

As soon as we enter Australia, Centrelink and Medicare and ATO and AEC etc. will all be notified and Medicare coverage is immediate. Because I was always intending to go back I have maintained an address (family member) for all Government and Financial related matters. Despite long periods away I have maintained Medicare because as far as they are concerned I reside at that address. Not the same for CLink or ATO, but anything needed there is a matter of applying once a person gets back. I have also maintained my driving licence - on my last visit

Any Citizen that has been away for a long time and not maintained an address, is immediately covered under Medicare the day they return. But they must apply and it can take a week or two for approval. Same for all the other Government services.

Tip for all Expats returning to Australia who have been away a long time want to quickly re-activate Government and Private things in their lives. You need to find a long term rental place (6 months+) and get a signed Lease. Even if you are staying with a friend/family member get a Rental Lease document done (draft free online). You then take that Lease and your Passport to the Road Traffic authority and apply for a driving licence. You may need to start again and get a Leaners but that is OK - you just need that photo ID with your address on it. Those three documents (Passport, Licence, Lease) then give you everything you need to open a bank account, and then you can re-open all other Government services easily and quickly. You can then change your address with Govt etc. later to whatever you get as a long term place - they can all be done online these days.

18 hours ago, atpeace said:

You are making the right decision but still think your OP was insincere. You are moving because of the cost of medical the other things are of little concern. 90 day reporting is a breeze and the likelihood of you paying taxes here is minute. You are lucky your wife is a citizen because Australia's visa costs are astronomical (9k Aus dollars-Australian Partner Visa) and it is a pain in the butt. Thailand visa pains are minor and CHEAP!

Sad that medical costs inflation has forced the move but that isn't going to change and probably get much worse. My insurance policy goes up 100% when I turn 60 next year.

Thanks and perhaps the post was a little negative granted - I was ventng so to speak.

But the 90 days reporting is an imposition that no other country in this Region applies (and most in the world) on those that have moved to live in their country. Plus my success rate is about 50/50 - sometimes online works and sometimes not. Plus the yearly extension process is a pain and they constantly change the rules - about the same results of good and bad for me - 50/50.

You are wrong about Australia Visas - when my wife visited as a tourist the process was simple and clear. Yes to migrate there it was more costly and complex - but not much more complex than when I was applying to come to Thailand as a Retiree many years ago - and she did have to put money into any bank account etc. etc. When my wife migrated to Australia (Partner Visa), she came as a Temporary Resident with almost full legal rights - no reports to Police and no annual extensions - and no other financial and legal impositions. After 2 years she was automatically granted Permanent Residence, and then another 2 years and she applied for and got Citizenship (all at little/no costs). The migration Visas for Australia are for those intending to move to and live in Australia long term - there are many Tourist and Working Visas for those other visits. There are no 'migration' Visas to Thailand - they are all technically a Tourist Visa - hence the 90 day reports and the 12 months extensions - they are all Non-Immigrant Visas because there are no Migrant Visas in Thailand. Long term Expats are treated as Tourists because that is technically their legal status and they do not have full legal status in Thailand and they can be told to leave at any time the authorities decide.

On 6/29/2026 at 3:49 PM, Dexxter said:

3 years ago I developed a hernia and decided I needed to get it looked at. I went to my GP and he referred me to a major government hospital in Melbourne (Australia). I was on a waiting list because it was deemed to be elective surgery. After 6 months I decided I did not want to wait any longer and booked myself in to a local private hospital with hernia specialists. I was operated on about 10 days later and eliminating the wait cost me $5000. But it was worth it for me at the time. About 18 months later I received an email asking me to come in for a consultation because I finally got to the front of the list. The wait would have been 2 years.

About a month ago I was feeling chest pains that frightened me. I checked Google and the recommendation was to go an ER as soon as possible. I was a bit embarrassed to call an ambulance so hopped on a tram and was in the ER 20 minutes later. As soon as I mentioned to the admitting staff that I had chest pains I was immediately taken into the ER ward, stripped, had line placed in my hand and hooked up to monitoring equipment. Zero wait. I was there for almost 24 hours, and had blood tests, CAT scan, X-rays, and constant monitoring on ECG machines. When all the tests came back normal I was told to rest in the bed till morning and then I was free to leave. Cost? Zero. Waiting time? close to zero.

TLDR: In Australian government hospitals for elective procedures you wait, but for emergencies there is no wait. Bother are free.

Had a similar thing happen to me many years ago in Australia - totally free and excellent medical staff and services. That was not the same here - it was extremely expensive as I said, and the staff were very ordinary - aside from the actual surgery and the surgeon the process was ignorant and poor. The nurses were very poorly organised and knew very little (my daughter is a nurse and so was my Mother). The whole experience made mew rethink staying here until 75-80 - and the decision was made to leave now.

In my OP I also had a whinge about Immigration and Taxation - but the main reason is the medical stuff. Although, if the TRD implements a global taxation system that makes my income in Australia taxable, I was also going to leave immediately. No guarantee they will do that though - and that was why were were still here - but I had a plan to leave if they did. Hence the move happening now - already organised and booked and paid for and tying up a few loose ends. Examples of tidying up which I had already organised - in Thailand your home insurance is invalidated if you leave it vacant for 30-60 days - same for car insurance. The wife's house will be uninsured because there are no providers or brokers who can cover a vacant house - even though it is in a secure gated community with 24x7 security guards patrolling. The car will be uninsured, but there are companies that will provide 30-90 day coverage for when you return.

On 6/29/2026 at 4:10 PM, Jaggg88 said:

My limited experience of Thai public hospitals has always been good, and my experience in private hospitals has also been good, but they are expensive.

I pay all my taxes in my home country and would never register here, but that may become academic if the new proposals are accepted

Thai Revenue Department Drafts Foreign Income Remittance Tax Relief | HLB Thailand

True - that was implemented under the current taxation system. It is only when the new taxation system is implemented that Expats will know the full impact on their income and earnings from overseas. The thing I was doing is the same as most - stay across the issue and be aware that changes are coming and then see how they work. The prophets of doom in 2024 were proven wrong - there was no impact in retired/married Expats - although a few did try to get a TIN and some lodged a return. The new global taxation system will be different - but in what way no one knows - but I do know not to believe the tax 'experts' who want Expat business.

On 6/30/2026 at 7:17 PM, emptypockets said:

My thaI born wife loves living in Australia.

We are self funded retirees. Visit Thailand every year.

Not sure what you are saying about living in Australia.

Ditto mate - we lived there before and although it has issues, it was fine. What we found after returning here post-Covid is that everything has become more expensive - everything. Plus the Baht is way too high and that makes it even more expensive here.

Likewise, we will now be visiting Thailand each year - and medical travel insurance in Australia is a lot cheaper than what is available here.

15 hours ago, SamSpade said:

https://www.hlbthai.com/thai-revenue-department-drafts-foreign-income-remittance-tax-relief/

Unfortunately that article is from May 2025 and it seems to have got shelved when the previous government was disbanded.

I had hoped that the new Government coming in Feb/March time would have got it back on the table by now but in fairness they've had bigger things to worry about with things like the issues with Myanmar/Cambodia & the impacts from the war in Iran.

True - the Finance Ministry and TRD are drafting a new taxation system and it will involve a change to Thailand's taxation laws and therefore implementation will be 'difficult'. After the massive drop in foreign remittances in 2024 the Thai Govt canned the rule change that made them suddenly taxable income. They have made it very clear what they are doing and what the changes in Thai taxation laws will be under the new system. Wealthy Thais and tax residents are making the changes necessary to reduce their potential taxation from investment earnings and income made overseas (which was previously not taxed but will be). One of those things will be applying pressure for Thailand to follow the example of other countries whereby income earned overseas that has been taxed there, is not taxed again in Thailand.

The reality is that there are two issues. Tax Residents of Thailand paying income taxes on investment earnings overseas, and the Remittance of Money into Thailand. Although raising income taxes received is needed, what is not needed is another dramatic drop in foreign remittances into Thailand. It is a matter of balance - how much remittances versus taxing remittances. Expats are a very minor issue in all that - but they must stay across things and be aware of what the change will mean for them individually.

Toronto condo crashed 50% from highs. This studio unit sold yesterday. Livin the dream.

20 hours ago, XRules said:

As soon as we enter Australia, Centrelink and Medicare and ATO and AEC etc. will all be notified and Medicare coverage is immediate. Because I was always intending to go back I have maintained an address (family member) for all Government and Financial related matters. Despite long periods away I have maintained Medicare because as far as they are concerned I reside at that address. Not the same for CLink or ATO, but anything needed there is a matter of applying once a person gets back. I have also maintained my driving licence - on my last visit

Any Citizen that has been away for a long time and not maintained an address, is immediately covered under Medicare the day they return. But they must apply and it can take a week or two for approval. Same for all the other Government services.

Tip for all Expats returning to Australia who have been away a long time want to quickly re-activate Government and Private things in their lives. You need to find a long term rental place (6 months+) and get a signed Lease. Even if you are staying with a friend/family member get a Rental Lease document done (draft free online). You then take that Lease and your Passport to the Road Traffic authority and apply for a driving licence. You may need to start again and get a Leaners but that is OK - you just need that photo ID with your address on it. Those three documents (Passport, Licence, Lease) then give you everything you need to open a bank account, and then you can re-open all other Government services easily and quickly. You can then change your address with Govt etc. later to whatever you get as a long term place - they can all be done online these days.

Just a small one.

I know Centrelink are notified when you enter and leave Australia as it affects your pensions.

Medicare can also access your movements.

I'm pretty sure though, other government departments like AEC and the ATO are not automatically notified.

3 hours ago, Will27 said:

Just a small one.

I know Centrelink are notified when you enter and leave Australia as it affects your pensions.

Medicare can also access your movements.

I'm pretty sure though, other government departments like AEC and the ATO are not automatically notified.

Services Australia (CLink, Medicare, Child Support Agency) are immediately advised.

The other Agencies are all advised either immediately (if flagged) or in their monthly exchange of information - they are all linked together now.

But they only take any action if there is an active reason - Pension, Paying Child Support, Taxation Debt, etc.

For us two - CLink will immediately change my Pension payments to reflect in country, but they will do nothing for the Wife as she is not receiving any support. Likewise, the other Agencies will only take action if there is a reason, but they all get that information. If/when my Wife applies for Jobsearch (not Pension age yet) then her arrival will have been recorded in her records - same for ATO if she gets a job and starts to pay taxes again, etc. for all the other Agencies. Unlike the vast majority of public service organisations in Thailand, in Australia (and all OECD and USA etc.) the Govt Agencies work closely together and share information regularly. Additionally there are many organisations that can request and get some/all of that information - Banks, Credit Agencies, Welfare Organisations, etc etc.

Whenever you leave or arrive in Australia that information is shared with all the Government Agencies either immediately or during the regular exchanges. Likewise, there are 'Security Agencies' that immediately get notified for obvious reasons. Depending on the circumstances, that information is also shared with all Federal and State policing agencies, as required.

Edited Saturday at 03:59 AM3 days by XRules

12 hours ago, Celsius said:

Toronto condo crashed 50% from highs. This studio unit sold yesterday. Livin the dream.

That is happening in a lot of western countries and I expect it to continue. Australia recently implemented Federal taxation changes that have made ownership of property investments far less financially attractive, and with things like the VIC State Govt having already increased their taxes on property, property prices are falling in some places, and will be falling in others. Most countries, including Canada, have implemented are going to implement similar taxation changes.

The ridiculous increase in housing pricing over the last 20-230 years has been mainly driven by investors. One of the Political Parties in Australia has announced that (if elected) they will be introducing a rule that makes it illegal for non-Citizens and non-Residents owning property - a lot of the property investors in Australia getting the resident taxation benefits do not actually live in Australia. I think most other countries in the west are looking to make, or have already made, similar taxation and ownership changes.

The reason property is very comparatively cheaper in Thailand is because foreigners are not allowed to buy houses with land - and IMO that is a very good thing. Plus of course with the economy declining since Covid, property pricing has been decreasing - for those who want to buy property IMO it will be a good time to buy next year - especially when the economy starts to grow again and interest rates are increased.

2 minutes ago, XRules said:

That is happening in a lot of western countries and I expect it to continue. Australia recently implemented Federal taxation changes that have made ownership of property investments far less financially attractive, and with things like the VIC State Govt having already increased their taxes on property, property prices are falling in some places, and will be falling in others. Most countries, including Canada, have implemented are going to implement similar taxation changes.

The ridiculous increase in housing pricing over the last 20-230 years has been mainly driven by investors. One of the Political Parties in Australia has announced that (if elected) they will be introducing a rule that makes it illegal for non-Citizens and non-Residents owning property - a lot of the property investors in Australia getting the resident taxation benefits do not actually live in Australia. I think most other countries in the west are looking to make, or have already made, similar taxation and ownership changes.

The reason property is very comparatively cheaper in Thailand is because foreigners are not allowed to buy houses with land - and IMO that is a very good thing. Plus of course with the economy declining since Covid, property pricing has been decreasing - for those who want to buy property IMO it will be a good time to buy next year - especially when the economy starts to grow again and interest rates are increased.

UK wants to impose a property tax of 1% the assessed value of your property per year.

Most houses are over 300,000 GBP .......... so thats $6,000 AU every year.

As for property prices in Thailand Vs the west,

Essentially no planning laws here, you can throw up a shanty, tent, pod, anywhere you like at almost no cost beyond the land and materials. In the west you need 100 permits all costing $$$$$s.

The western governments don't want you building your own homes.

Had an Oz pal who inherited a 2 bed shack on 1,000 acres of farmland, he couldn't change, improve, upgrade at any cost and was regularly inspected to see he hadn't put a caravan on his land or changed the home.

Edited Saturday at 04:17 AM3 days by BritManToo

4 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

UK wants to impose a property tax of 1% the assessed value of your property per year.

Most houses are over 300,000 GBP .......... so thats $6,000 AU every year.

That is what happens when the People vote in the Socialist/Green Parties. Because like Margaret said - 'The problem with socialism is that they always run out of other people's money.'

2 minutes ago, XRules said:

That is what happens when the People vote in the Socialist/Green Parties. Because like Margaret said - 'The problem with socialism is that they always run out of other people's money.'

All parties in the UK have broadly the same policies, all want to restrict housing, implement Net Zero, enforce personal travel, bring in Muslim immigrants and control everything and everyone. You can vote for whomever you like and nothing changes.

I the OP already owns a house in Australia as the cost of housing in Australia is very very expensive.

8 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

All parties in the UK have broadly the same policies, all want to restrict housing, implement Net Zero, enforce personal travel, bring in Muslim immigrants and control everything and everyone. You can vote for whomever you like and nothing changes.

Good point mate. One day perhaps Reform and/or Restore will gain enough votes to completely destroy the woke global liberal infestation that has taken over both the main Parties.

10 minutes ago, trainee wombat said:

I the OP already owns a house in Australia as the cost of housing in Australia is very very expensive.

Not really - many things cost a little more, but as a retired couple with plenty of Super Funds to back up the Pension (and rental support) it is not cost a lot more than in Thailand. We lived in Aust just before during and just after Covid - when we came back here the cost of living here was much higher - and the Baht is a lot higher too.

With regards to owning a place, I did a financial analysis some years ago (did that in work a lot). Taking money out of Super (currently earning average 5+%) and buying a house plus all the associated costs, taxes, rates, and fees, is massively financially worse over 5-10 years, than using the Super interest earned (tax free) and Government support payments (including for renting) to pay the rent. Plus you can rent a much better proeprty than you can afford to buy. There is a lot more to it in terms of personal issues - but the numbers are very very clear. Unless you are working and paying taxes the best option financially is renting when you are retired and have a decent Super balance.

When people buy a property they mainly 'count' the price of the property - they forget all the taxes, rates, and fees they pay when buying - and all those that they have to pay every year. They also forget all the repairs and new replacement items that they buy up front and then over the years. Yes - if I was 40 and working and had kids etc. then I would buy. But renting is absolutely the way to go for a retired couple.

As a financial expert told me many many years ago, the problem with property investments is that you cannot sell a third or half the house if you need money urgently. Yes you can borrow, but inevitably that drastically changes the financial viability of the investment.

5 minutes ago, XRules said:

With regards to owning a place, I did a financial analysis some years ago (did that in work a lot). Taking money out of Super (currently earning average 5+%) and buying a house plus all the associated costs, taxes, rates, and fees, is massively financially worse over 5-10 years, than using the Super interest earned (tax free) and Government support payments (including for renting) to pay the rent. Plus you can rent a much better proeprty than you can afford to buy. There is a lot more to it in terms of personal issues - but the numbers are very very clear. Unless you are working and paying taxes the best option financially is renting when you are retired and have a decent Super balance.

Not to mention, in the divorce, the courts can't award her your landlords home.

That little fact cost me $800,000 AU .......

So I agree with you, as a man, better to rent in the west.

Or avoid cohabiting, or even sleepovers, Woody Allen knew this 40 years earlier than everyone else.

7 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Not to mention, in the divorce, the courts can't award her your landlords home.

That little fact cost me $800,000 AU .......

So I agree with you, as a man, better to rent in the west.

Or avoid cohabiting, or even sleepovers, Woody Allen knew this 40 years earlier than everyone else.

Yes indeed - cost me about $600K AUD 20 years ago.

The best 'strategy' for a man in the west is definitely to rent, and the second best if you must/want to buy a place, is to keep the mortgage as high as possible until the kids have all grown up and left home (dont pay it off too early). That way she can neither get the Landlord's house, or she gets the greater percentage of the mortgage debt on the house.

The first reality in the west is that the whole 'divorce industry', as well as all the other divorced feminist bitches, want women to divorce their husbands - ideally when the kids are young teenagers so they get the maximum money, but when the kids are not a lot of trouble to look after.

The second reality is that women are stupidly crazy and they are heavily influenced by other women and 'fashion'. They need a reason NOT to divorce their husband, in order to push back against the 'influencers' pushing her to get a divorce. There is not a lot of women divorcing their husbands in their 50s and less in their 60s, because they have got through all that pressure and have realised that their husband is a di**head and an idiot (like we all are) - but he is theirs and they can grow old together. All men in 30s and 40s should be told that - give their wife a big financial reason not to get divorced and the chances of them falling under the influencers will be greatly reduced. Once they are in their mid/late 50s they realise (finally) there is no Prince or Billionaire and they have to 'make do' with what they do have. As long as he is a decent enough man they will hang in there, because they grow up then and realise that it is in their last 20-30 years of life that women needs a man/partner more than at any other time (and all those feminist divorcees are broke, miserable and lonely, and living with cats).

13 minutes ago, XRules said:

They need a reason NOT to divorce their husband, in order to push back against the 'influencers' pushing her to get a divorce.

A lot of deceitful, lying influencers out there spewing all sorts of nonsense.

But also seen some influencers pointing out how stupid women are in modern society and trying to coach them to be better wives.

Edited Saturday at 05:26 AM3 days by save the frogs