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in view of US 250 how do you look at history?

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Some thoughts prompted by the US 250 State fair….

 

If your study of history only ever makes you feel proud of your country, you've probably been taught nationalism rather than history.

History is not there to make us feel good.

It is there to make us wiser.

 

Most people don't actually know their country's history. - They know the version they were taught.

 

National histories are often less about understanding the past than about building national identity. Every country has its founding myths, heroic narratives, and carefully polished stories. The uncomfortable chapters—conquest, slavery, colonialism, oppression, political violence, corruption, or catastrophic mistakes—are often softened, justified, or quietly ignored.

 

Real history isn't a patriotic fairy tale. - It is messy, contradictory, and deeply human.

 

It shows that virtually every successful nation was shaped by conflict, exploitation, injustice, and decisions that would be condemned by today's standards. That doesn't mean those countries should be hated. It means they should be understood honestly.

 

A mature society doesn't need a flawless past. It needs an accurate one.

Studying history should challenge your assumptions. It should sometimes leave you uncomfortable. It should occasionally make you angry, saddened, or ashamed. It should also inspire admiration for those who fought against injustice rather than simply celebrating those who held power.

 

As George Santayana famously observed:

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

 

Perhaps a more modern version would be:

Studying history will sometimes disturb you.

Studying history will sometimes upset you.

Studying history will sometimes make you furious.

If studying history only ever makes you feel proud and happy, you probably aren't studying history—you are studying mythology.

 

Well what's making history now is that the USA's first fascist felon president has ruined the 250th celebration and turned into yet another one of his vulgar perverted partisan corrupt grifts.

The founders did the best they could with the constitution, but nobody could have predicted a president as corrupt, destructive and malicious as Trump.

Everything he touches turns into the brown stuff.

Edited by Jingthing

23 minutes ago, kwilco said:

Some thoughts prompted by the US 250 State fair….

 

If your study of history only ever makes you feel proud of your country, you've probably been taught nationalism rather than history.

History is not there to make us feel good.

It is there to make us wiser.

 

Most people don't actually know their country's history. - They know the version they were taught.

 

National histories are often less about understanding the past than about building national identity. Every country has its founding myths, heroic narratives, and carefully polished stories. The uncomfortable chapters—conquest, slavery, colonialism, oppression, political violence, corruption, or catastrophic mistakes—are often softened, justified, or quietly ignored.

 

Real history isn't a patriotic fairy tale. - It is messy, contradictory, and deeply human.

 

It shows that virtually every successful nation was shaped by conflict, exploitation, injustice, and decisions that would be condemned by today's standards. That doesn't mean those countries should be hated. It means they should be understood honestly.

 

A mature society doesn't need a flawless past. It needs an accurate one.

Studying history should challenge your assumptions. It should sometimes leave you uncomfortable. It should occasionally make you angry, saddened, or ashamed. It should also inspire admiration for those who fought against injustice rather than simply celebrating those who held power.

 

As George Santayana famously observed:

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

 

Perhaps a more modern version would be:

Studying history will sometimes disturb you.

Studying history will sometimes upset you.

Studying history will sometimes make you furious.

If studying history only ever makes you feel proud and happy, you probably aren't studying history—you are studying mythology.

 

I would call today's history and nationalism rationalism with deep wounds.

34 minutes ago, kwilco said:

If your study of history only ever makes you feel proud of your country, you've probably been taught nationalism rather than history.

If your study of history only ever makes you feel ashamed of your country, what have you been taught? 🤔

13 minutes ago, GanDoonToonPet said:

If your study of history only ever makes you feel ashamed of your country, what have you been taught? 🤔

The truth?

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