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American's views of Israel are 62% negative

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  • Packer
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    Leave Israel alone. As in, leave Israel alone. No funding. No trade. 🙂

  • spidermike007
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    It is of extreme importance to differentiate between people protesting against Israel's approach to this war in Gaza, and now Lebanon, and antisemitism. They are two completely different things, howev

  • beautifulthailand99
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    Israel has now totally lost the plot and many Jews no doubt are enormously conflicted with a binary choice Jews vs Nazis and the Nazis are everywhere - it's like when you abuse a child or beat a dog -

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6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

As I stated above, when the extreme rightwing have done hating on Muslims they’ll get back to hating on

10 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

It is of extreme importance to differentiate between people protesting against Israel's approach to this war in Gaza, and now Lebanon, and antisemitism. They are two completely different things, however Israel is an extremely thin skinned nation, and very intolerant of any sort of criticism. As a Jew I know that many Jews are thin-skinned when it comes to any sort of criticism of Israel, and it's often interpreted (or labeled in an intellectual lazy manner) as being anti-semitic.

I've been called a Jew hater for criticizing Israeli policy so I know how sensitive the issue can be, and it's very important to interpret it correctly. Jews and all people have the right to be critical of Israeli policy, especially now that the extremists have taken over, gotten the support of a hateful PM, and the Ultra Zionists and heinous Settlers, and are engaging in what could be called a ridiculously disproportionate campaign against the Gazans. Many call it genocide. And it would appear as though their goal is in trying to erase the Palestinian population. Forever.

Israel must be very careful at this point as they are losing support around the world, by the day it's gotten to the point where there are very few nations who are still supportive of Israel, and the IDF. If the US withdrew it's support, it would put them in dire straits, and very isolated. And we might be looking at a failed state. They deserve that, in my opinion. I believe all the lessons of the Holocaust have been forgotten within the current very sad state of affairs in Israel.

Am I a Jew hater? Absolutely not, as I have many Jewish friends and family that I adore. Do I hate Israel? Certainly not alot of the people, but I do hate the current Israeli government. Much as I hate the current American government, it doesn't make me an America hater, though the fake patriots on this forum would argue otherwise.


You seem reasonable Mike - unlike the others J's on here who automatically defend ANYTHING & EVERYTHING j's or israel do. It's like they stoke and feed off the hate like the demonic little grabblers that they are.

TBH I don't understand why decent 'jews' like yourself don't renounce the identity / drop the "I'm a jew" thing.
Since people can and do convert to become jewish it's clearly NOT an ethnicity.

Not sure why anyone would want to hold on to that identity and all it's associated with.

4 hours ago, Tourist2 said:


You seem reasonable Mike - unlike the others J's on here who automatically defend ANYTHING & EVERYTHING j's or israel do. It's like they stoke and feed off the hate like the demonic little grabblers that they are.

TBH I don't understand why decent 'jews' like yourself don't renounce the identity / drop the "I'm a jew" thing.
Since people can and do convert to become jewish it's clearly NOT an ethnicity.

Not sure why anyone would want to hold on to that identity and all it's associated with.

Well it's an interesting point that you bring up. I'm not a practicing Jew and I haven't been since I was 13 years old, but I still identify with the culture and it's not as if I renounced the religion, I just don't practice it, nor do I support Israel on any level. I consider them to be the new terrorist state in the Middle East.

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Well it's an interesting point that you bring up. I'm not a practicing Jew and I haven't been since I was 13 years old, but I still identify with the culture and it's not as if I renounced the religion, I just don't practice it, nor do I support Israel on any level. I consider them to be the new terrorist state in the Middle East.


Fair play. IDK for sure but I think that's what happened in the 40s in Germany - a section of the jewish leadership (maybe with a financial & ideological interest in fubding wars and strife caused a lot of trouble from a safe distance and left the normal jews to get the brunt of the blowback.

I'm from England & the increasingly rogue uK/ bRiTish Government (whatever that means) do the same to us - starting wars and other problems that blow back on civilians. 1M protested against the Iraq war but the war industry is big and needs feeding

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10 hours ago, Tourist2 said:


You seem reasonable Mike - unlike the others J's on here who automatically defend ANYTHING & EVERYTHING j's or israel do. It's like they stoke and feed off the hate like the demonic little grabblers that they are.

TBH I don't understand why decent 'jews' like yourself don't renounce the identity / drop the "I'm a jew" thing.
Since people can and do convert to become jewish it's clearly NOT an ethnicity.

Not sure why anyone would want to hold on to that identity and all it's associated with.

Every one of us has a sociocultural background. Although my name is German, my forebears left Bavaria in 1803. I have two citizenships but I'm not attached to either. And I'll never be a Thai.

You can't ignore your roots. What's wrong with being a Jew? It's not all about those nasty little warmongers.

14 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Every one of us has a sociocultural background. Although my name is German, my forebears left Bavaria in 1803. I have two citizenships but I'm not attached to either. And I'll never be a Thai.

You can't ignore your roots. What's wrong with being a Jew? It's not all about those nasty little warmongers.


I'm not saying 'jews' are bad per se but it is an awful brand to sport recently - probably not a club I'd want to claim - and like your Bavarianess, you don't need to.

I'm English and agree with very little that the yookay/government do - I'm fine to admit that, on the whole, they're a horrible bunch of bastards. When I believe 'my' government is out of order I call it out - inc. the psyops they do on thie own population (WMD, Foreign Wars, 2 Tier policing, forcing taxpayer funded immigration on us despite election promises etc. etc. etc.)

So I'm NOT saying all jews are bad but a couple on this board seem to enjoy defending and arguing the toss about the Gaza clearance / genocide / whatever.
Those people ARE at best posting in bad faith, maybe outright evil imho.

Mike has a balanced view and it's important people like him speak up as, if not, people will have a similar (bad) view of jews as many do of muslims.

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Only 62%? But, what would one expect in Trump's MAGA USA?

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