38 minutes ago, Paul Henry said:

What is the situation with legal liability? Can the driver of the vehicle doing the uturn be sued for compensation, does the driver have insurance for third party? What is the minimum insurance requirements to licence a car in Thailand?

The only time I've seen money successfully recovered in Thailand from an automobile accident when someone else was at fault is when you have a good insurance company that goes after the responsible party.

Doing it on your own would likely cost a fortune, it would likely take years, and who knows what the result would be?

How many articles do we read with people involved in motor bike incidents

And coming off worse injuries hospital bills ect

I would have thought as a expat in Thailand he would have known better

Insurance needed and so on to pay for any hospital bills ect

Or even better don't ride bikes in Thailand to dangerous

Wish him well hopefully other motor bike people will learn from this guys experience

A good friend of mine got in a bad motorcycle accident some time ago. He almost lost his leg. He got his first of 11 operations at Bangkok Hospital Samui. It costs him over a million baht. They wanted to do a second procedure. They quoted him 1.4 million baht. He decided to transfer to Bangkok. He was quoted 460,000 baht for the same procedure, at a top private hospital there. The surgeon told him that he worked at a public hospital too, and could do the same operation there, for alot less money. He told him he would get him a quote.

In the interim, my friend called a buddy in San Diego, who is an orthopedic surgeon. Since my friend was a retired chiropractor, he knew all the terminology, and explained what he needed, and asked for the best price. His friend called him back, and quoted him $960,000, with cash discounts! And that was 15 years ago! The local surgeon got back to him, and told him he could do it for 46,000 baht. He transferred, and they did all the rest of his procedures.

So, 1.4 million at Bangkok Hospital, 460,000 at the other private hospital in Bangkok (I think it was Vejthani Hospital), and 46,000 at the public hospital, with an excellent surgeon. VS. 32,000,000 baht in the US. Again, no complaints from this peanut gallery.

1 hour ago, Celsius said:

All these fancy titles, but still gofundme.

The business development consultant .... I was rolling in laughter when I read that statement. No more of a business consultant than I was a former nuclear scientist graduated from MIT. So we are suppose to believe that this narcissistic youth driving at high speeds was cut down in the prime of his promising bsiness career by a reckless driver makeing a u-turn. As already pointed out where is the insurance, where is the police report ..........

19 minutes ago, TedG said:

That's not all that fast. I'll get my BMW over 120 Kph on the US highways. You need to look ahead and always keep a safe following distance from other vehicles.

Yeah you drive a motorcycle.

You're way cooler than I'll ever be.

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Driving at motorbike at 100kph is insane in Thailand.

There could be anything on the road: strewn sugarcane, empty sacks blowing across the road, tractors crossing, dogs meandering looking for bird carcasses.

I'm sorry but his actions were reckless.

Another ? story , long time foreign resident of thailand on ? visa , with no medical insurance . Now asking for financial help . !!!!!

36 minutes ago, shackleton said:

How many articles do we read with people involved in motor bike incidents

And coming off worse injuries hospital bills ect

I would have thought as a expat in Thailand he would have known better

Insurance needed and so on to pay for any hospital bills ect

Or even better don't ride bikes in Thailand to dangerous

Wish him well hopefully other motor bike people will learn from this guys experience

Daily murders and crashes. Some people are just crazy.

Many years ago in England when I used to ride motorbikes I was hospitalized at St Margaret Hospital in Epping after an accident, the lad in the next bed to me had a similar accident to the man in the article, he broke and lost a good part of his femur bone, The surgeons at were able to make a cofferdam and fill it with bone chips from his hip, after many months he was able to walk but his leg was maybe two inches shorter.

100km/hr is not that fast, just sounds like a big number, it's only 62 mph, no mention in the post if this was in town or on a highway.

38 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

The only time I've seen money successfully recovered in Thailand from an automobile accident when someone else was at fault is when you have a good insurance company that goes after the responsible party.

Doing it on your own would likely cost a fortune, it would likely take years, and who knows what the result would be?

Nope,

Hit and run got me, police caught him and charged him.

His 1st class insurance refused to pay damages as they claimed it was deliberate. But his insurance did pay my hospital bill and m/c repairs as an 'act of good will'.

Police arrested him, public prosecuter tried him, and a judge awarded enough money to buy a car. Only cost to me was 2x 1,000bht for official interpreter at the police station, no fortune spent, but it did take around 18 months from start to finish.

My wife only reported the hit and run in order to get a police report to claim gov min accident payment for the hospital. Police and court chased it all the way, I was surprised!

Edited July 17Jul 17 by BritManToo

"He said it was impossible to avoid the impact."

Maybe, maybe not.

But the injury could have been prevented with a different mode of transportation.

His choice, but to twist a phrase "You knew the job was dangerous when you took it".

But of course a "bike" is more than a mode of transportation, its the excitement, the feel of the wind in your face, the feel of your leg dangling off...

Cue bikers to inform me how safe bikes are when they ride them.

31 minutes ago, riverhigh said:

The business development consultant .... I was rolling in laughter when I read that statement. No more of a business consultant than I was a former nuclear scientist graduated from MIT. So we are suppose to believe that this narcissistic youth driving at high speeds was cut down in the prime of his promising bsiness career by a reckless driver makeing a u-turn. As already pointed out where is the insurance, where is the police report ..........

He came to thailand at age 22 and is a business development manager???To young for a retirement visa, no wife just a girlfriend so no marriage visa....can someone more learned than me tell me how he could have stayed so long on what visa?

Riding bikes here is like playing Russian roulette, no matter how experinced and careful you are. 50 deaths a day on Thai roads and mostly bikes. You just cannot always account for the stupidity and danger from other road users here. It's one of the most dangerous things anyone can do, good business for go fund me though.

5 minutes ago, MeRakThai said:

He came to thailand at age 22 and is a business development manager???To young for a retirement visa, no wife just a girlfriend so no marriage visa....can someone more learned than me tell me how he could have stayed so long on what visa?

Non-Immigrant B Visa would allow that.

1 hour ago, TedG said:

That's not all that fast. I'll get my BMW over 120 Kph on the US highways. You need to look ahead and always keep a safe following distance from other vehicles.

Sorry, I'm not convinced it's possible to be entirely safe on a motorcycle.

Even if you are the best driver in the world, other drivers in cars are not and the roads are unpredictable.

I saw a guy on Youtube talking about how he stopped riding his motorcycle for years, but then started up again. He knows he's risking his life, but he made a conscious decision to live with that risk rather than avoid the thrill of riding.

Edited July 17Jul 17 by save the frogs

1 hour ago, TedG said:

That's not all that fast. I'll get my BMW over 120 Kph on the US highways. You need to look ahead and always keep a safe following distance from other vehicles.

FWIW if you are going 120 kph in the USA then you are almost certainly going over the speed limit. 70 mph / 112 kph is the absolute maximum speed limit on American highways. (There may be a few rare exceptions.)

Of course everyone else on the highway is probably going 80 mph too. 😝

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

I'm not a big fan of motorbikes.

And that seems like a high speed to me, although probably common for motorcyclists.

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Poor guy, what a thing to happen, it's the danger of riding a scooter/motorcycle though, and he was going a bit fast for Thai roads.

The thing here is that is you know how to drive a motorbike; you will drive at the speed of traffic or a bit faster to get around things. So, 100km is not really any high speed, if it´s a regular motorway and not inside city.

Besides that, an experienced driver, as him, due to that he calls himself a motorbike guy, would or should be able to see much better and anticipate things in front of him. he was just unconcentrated on the road. Driving in Thailand, takes a little bit more out of even experienced drivers. It´s definitely not the easiest country to drive in.

Hopefully the guy will sort it out and recover, but he should really go get some good driving lessons before riding again.

2 minutes ago, Front Row said:

FWIW if you are going 120 kph in the USA then you are almost certainly going over the speed limit. 70 mph / 112 kph is the absolute maximum speed limit on American highways. (There may be a few rare exceptions.)

Of course everyone else on the highway is probably going 80 mph too. 😝

You either go with the flow, or get stuck the slow lane. Especially on I95 and I81.

The faster you go, the faster everything happens. Had he been doing 75, could he have seen what was up and avoided it? I say yes.

I spent 11 years on a moto in Thailand, slow down, look way in front, check your rear mirrors.

5 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Sorry, I'm not convinced it's possible to be entirely safe on a motorcycle.

Even if you are the best driver in the world, other drivers in cars are not and the roads are unpredictable.

I saw a guy on Youtube talking about how he stopped riding his motorcycle for years, but then started up again. He knows he's risking his life, but he made a conscious decision to live with that risk rather than avoid the thrill of riding.

Depends on location. Places like pkk, ban krut, pranburi, lanta have low traffic and if you ride at 50kph the risk of injury is low. I ride scooters a lot and normally stick to 50kph.

Big bike riders are all ego and going 100+ is normal for them but death risk is 29x higher on bikes than cars.

Tolle would say they have unresolved issues.

Unfortunately this type of accident is on the increase and will happen again and again since the roads are basically a lawless racecourse ! Whilst signs may show 60 or 80 or whatever , city speed limits ? , there is no enforcement of speed limits , no speed cameras , hardly any traffic police (apart from those escorting buses and VIP groups) . City wide speed limits just don't seem to exist ! Witness any day , especially at rush hour , the crazy speed of cars/pickups ( many modified to llok sporty and noisy ) plus motorbikes zooming down Sukhumvit at 100 / 120 k hr or more in the middle of Pattaya ! I see about 20% of motorbilke wearers with helmets .

Does Thailand really bel;ieve it is of the same standard as OECD or developed countries with such lawlessness on the roads which leads to such needless deaths and accidents ?

I have always maintained it basically comes down to the issue of Insurance ! It will never change whilst the issue of insurance is in government hands ( ie issued by DLT for a pittance , virtually no background checks , allows dangerously modified vehicles to be driven by anyone ). It's not worth the paper it's written on apart from filling the governments coffers !

5 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Sorry, I'm not convinced it's possible to be entirely safe on a motorcycle.

Even if you are the best driver in the world, other drivers in cars are not and the roads are unpredictable.

I saw a guy on Youtube talking about how he stopped riding his motorcycle for years, but then started up again. He knows he's risking his life, but he made a conscious decision to live with that risk rather than avoid the thrill of riding.

I can see your point, riding not as safe as being in a car. When riding, one has to be supper aware of traffic in front and traffic behind you. I've only been on scooters in Thailand, and people drive like hell in Thailand.

8 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Besides that, an experienced driver, as him, due to that he calls himself a motorbike guy, would or should be able to see much better and anticipate things in front of him. he was just unconcentrated on the road. Driving in Thailand, takes a little bit more out of even experienced drivers. It´s definitely not the easiest country to drive in.

I rarely exceed 60kph, driving a car or m/c.

Don't trust the Thai roads or the Thai drivers to go faster.

Maybe you're a better driver than me.

10 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Hopefully the guy will sort it out and recover, but he should really go get some good driving lessons before riding again.

Or hang up his helmet and get a car or use Bolt.

2 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Or hang up his helmet and get a car or use Bolt.

Can´t ask him to be that sensible! 😂

He’s lived here for years? Full time?

The guy should have known the risks of riding a motorcycle in Thailand.

The guy should have known the importance of good car and bike insurance.

The guy should have also known that he should have had his own medical insurance, on top of bike insurance.

And now, after the fact, he should try to go after the driver that did the illegal u-turn.

I feel sorry for him but he should have been smart enough to protect himself against accidents and other (usually bad) drivers.

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I rarely exceed 60kph, driving a car or m/c.

Don't trust the Thai roads or the Thai drivers to go faster.

Maybe you're a better driver than me.

I understand you. It´s even many Thai´s that do like you. I don´t think it´s about being a good or better driver. I am pretty sure you can drive, and that you would be more secure on British roads. I feel the same, but it´s just that I have found that following the speed or a bit more, does the thing for me. Here it was also about motorbike, and there it´s just a fact that it goes better if you, as an experienced driver, go around and overtake cars, as one usually don´t want them right in front of the bike. That´s kind of more dangerous, as they often brake hard and sudden.

4 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Can´t ask him to be that sensible! 😂

I even met a guy back home who was afraid to drive cars after nearly getting into an accident.

He stopped driving and just used public transit.