2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Zelenski likely outclasses Trump by 60 IQ points.

You are either being very complimentary to TRUMP for once or there is a mistype!!

PS; Even @Rockyroad can achieve that score!

Edited July 25Jul 25 by scottiejohn

4 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Ukraine has sympathy from people throughout the world, there is very little sympathy for the US as Trump and his minions have done a great job of diminishing American influence, waging an incredibly ineffective and dumb war, and showing the general stupidity in Washington these days.

Zelenski likely outclasses Trump by 60 IQ points.

Anything said about any country is those following opinions of others online or in videos. There is no way you can tell who has sympathy for anyone. Biased videos and propaganda is what many go by, but it's not valid. You can't judge a country by a politician or his actions, and anyone who's against America has their own reasons, which are usually invalid also, and there from prejudice against a few. All country's leaders have screwed things up, and many in disastrous ways. This event isn't over yet, so guessing what's going to be the endgame is just that.

25 minutes ago, candide said:

And it's still a false equivalence. Ukraine is defending itself after four years of invasion and continuous bombing of civilians by Russia.

As if Trump cared about Iran oppressed citizen! 😂

Actually, he made their situation worse. He told them to keep protesting and the US would come to help them. He did nothing, apart from triggering an extended repression, and increasing the civilian's death count

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/trump-tells-iranians-keep-protesting-says-help-is-its-way-2026-01-13/

It's not a false equivalence pointing out the error of one's statement. Again, look at past history of what Iran's done, and understand things had to change. Hopefully for everyone, including Iran's citizens, it does. What Ukraine is doing against Russia's infrastructure seems to be okay to some, yet what America's done isn't. I wonder how many would comment if they didn't already hate the US and or Trump for whatever reasons, and does it affect them personally anyway?Look at what Iran's still doing to it's own citizens. The US isn't to blame for their actions.

Edited July 25Jul 25 by fredwiggy

31 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

No answer of yours on the support of the US to terrorist groups.

Al-Qaeda, the Taliban, the Iran-Contra scandal, Operation Timber Sycamore: This CIA program funneled billions of dollars to Syrian "rebel groups" for weapons and training. Much of this weapons and money ended up directly in the hands of jihadist terrorist groups like the al-Nusra Front (then al-Qaeda's Syrian branch).

Your fantastic "history lessons" about Iran are whataboutism, so lets to come back to the origin...

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The Ukraine is defending itself.

Russia is the agressor. Your - "we will see later if that is true " - is ridiculous.

I know the mistakes the US has made. I'm a US citizen. The US with past presidents trusted certain leaders from certain countries and it wasn't a good thing. Your bringing up the US support of those countries is whataboutism also. All I said about the Ukraine-Russia conflict is what's happening, commenting on the OP's words, and him saying the US is doing things different. Hitting infrastructure of civilians is wrong no matter who does it. Read the OP's first two paragraphs and see what I was commenting on.

Edited July 25Jul 25 by fredwiggy

If it were true, then why is Europe rearming, if Ukraine is doing such a good job, what have the rest of Europe to fear and why all the fear Putin will invade Europe, Russia will be defeated soon and we can get all their oil and natural gas that we cut ourselves off from, sounds to good to be true.

As a side note maybe the rest of the world can be happy and watch Russia and Europe fight it out, is this not a simply white christians killing themselves by the millions or 100 hundreds of thousand, then you will need all those brown immigrants to fill the jobs that are left

Edited July 25Jul 25 by howerde

16 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Hitting infrastructure of civilians is wrong no matter who does it.

They are big differences between Ukraine and Russia "hitting infrastructure."

1. The Ukrainians have to live with this since 2022. The Russians just started to make this experience.

2. Russia systematically and repeatedly attacks civilian targets across the country, including residential buildings, hospitals, schools, maternity clinics, kindergardens, shopping centers, power plants, and transport routes. And this from the beginning - over 4 years now.

And now as Ukraine starts to target Wildberries warehouses who provide logistics for the russian army too - now they shall stop hitting such targets?!

In your oppinion Ukraine shall just sit and wait and do nothing. "We can wait and see later if that was a correct decision or not. History will tell."

I never had to go through being bombed, running with a small bag with my most important documents to the next bunker. That's the reality Ukraine civilian population has since 4 years. Not the russians.

They complain about not having enough gas and that their order from Wildberries won't arrive, even they paid for it.

Sorry to say: Your moral compass seems to be off somehow.

6 hours ago, Jingthing said:

So Ukraine should have just agreed to be slaves?

They are slaves... to those who are funding them and supplying armaments.

They should have agreed to never join NATO or the EU accepted the peace deal that was scuppered by Boris Johnson and Macron.

And none if it would have happened in the first place if they had not bombed and burned their own countrymen in the eastern 3rd of the country that Putin now controls ..

Soon he will also take Zaporizhzhia and Odessa leaving what is left of the Ukraine as a land locked failed state fully dependant on European handouts...lucky Starmer promised them billions of pounds per year for the next 100 years 🤣 sod the British native population !!

7 hours ago, connda said:

Ya'll keep quoting US information war propaganda - verbatim.

We all know that you just quote what suits your anti western agenda!

1 hour ago, johng said:

Soon he will also take Zaporizhzhia and Odessa leaving what is left of the Ukraine as a land locked failed state

I have read such comments already 3 years ago that its only a question of a few weeks...

1 hour ago, johng said:

They are slaves... to those who are funding them and supplying armaments.

The slaves are the people in Russia. And especially the russian infantry sent to the meat wolve at the border of Ukraine.

Ukraine is a proud free country. And that's the big difference between Russian and Ukrainian soldiers. The russians on the front do it only for money. Ukraine is defending it's homeland.

Russia is loosing. Bigly :-))

1 hour ago, Schoggibueb said:

They are big differences between Ukraine and Russia "hitting infrastructure."

1. The Ukrainians have to live with this since 2022. The Russians just started to make this experience.

2. Russia systematically and repeatedly attacks civilian targets across the country, including residential buildings, hospitals, schools, maternity clinics, kindergardens, shopping centers, power plants, and transport routes. And this from the beginning - over 4 years now.

And now as Ukraine starts to target Wildberries warehouses who provide logistics for the russian army too - now they shall stop hitting such targets?!

In your oppinion Ukraine shall just sit and wait and do nothing. "We can wait and see later if that was a correct decision or not. History will tell."

I never had to go through being bombed, running with a small bag with my most important documents to the next bunker. That's the reality Ukraine civilian population has since 4 years. Not the russians.

They complain about not having enough gas and that their order from Wildberries won't arrive, even they paid for it.

Sorry to say: Your moral compass seems to be off somehow.

I didn't say anything of the sort. You need to go back, read the OP's first two paragraphs, then see what I posted to the other poster. I know what Ukraine and Russia are doing, along with what America and Israel are doing. It was a comparison, with the OP saying that it's okay for Ukraine to do what they're doing, which I don't dismiss what's happening, as war is war and these things happen, as long as you don't intentionally target civilians and their things, which are war crimes, and that the US has also done these things, but he thinks it's okay that Ukraine does them and the US is different, although they aren't doing it as the Ukraine is. Non military targets hit are war crimes. Unintentional targeting isn't but collateral damage. Anything military hit is war, and accepted.Russia and Iran are both guilty of intentional killings of innocents.

15 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Non military targets hit are war crimes.

Fine. Now let us two focus only on Ukraine and Russia. Let us forget about Iran and USA.

Did Russia attack massivly more "non military targets" in the Ukraine since the war in 2022 began?

Do you think Russia has committed much more war crimes than Ukraine? Butcha, hospitals, maternity clinics etc. included...

A simple yes or no is fine for me to understand your moral compass.

10 hours ago, connda said:

And and and - he's killed 50,000 of his own people who dared to protest in Red Square. And he personally dove into the Baltic Sea and blew up the Nordstream Pipeline and is now dropping bombs on Moscow and blaming it on Zelenskyy. Oh, and he has sent 1,000,000 Ruskie conscripts and die in the Ukrainian Meat-Grinder!

Gloom, despair, and agony on me

Deep, dark depression, excessive misery

If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all

Gloom, despair, and agony on me

10 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Putin thanks you.

He's more interested in infamy than thank yous.

What has Russia brought to the table ?

I believe they invented a PC computer security system

a few decade ago , unbelievable though it

might seem now.

That's about it I think and the Zil limo !

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

It would appear that Russia's in serious trouble and that Putin has miscalculated even more than Trump has miscalculated in Iran.

Z-patriots are grateful to Iran for showing them how to defeat America. To do this, it turns out, all it takes is handing over power to the military, who are simply incapable of selling the country for dollars. Therefore, after the war with Iran, our leader Vladimir began actively promoting a large number of soldiers and officers who fought in Ukraine to government positions. Let's see how the Iranian recipe will work in Russia.

10 minutes ago, zmisha said:

Z-patriots are grateful to Iran for showing them how to defeat America. To do this, it turns out, all it takes is handing over power to the military, who are simply incapable of selling the country for dollars. Therefore, after the war with Iran, our leader Vladimir began actively promoting a large number of soldiers and officers who fought in Ukraine to government positions. Let's see how the Iranian recipe will work in Russia.

Z fascists actually.

www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/how-putins-russia-embraced-fascism-while-preaching-anti-fascism/

8 hours ago, Schoggibueb said:

Fine. Now let us two focus only on Ukraine and Russia. Let us forget about Iran and USA.

Did Russia attack massivly more "non military targets" in the Ukraine since the war in 2022 began?

Do you think Russia has committed much more war crimes than Ukraine? Butcha, hospitals, maternity clinics etc. included...

A simple yes or no is fine for me to understand your moral compass.

Of course. Look what they have as a leader.

18 hours ago, howerde said:

if Ukraine is doing such a good job, what have the rest of Europe to fear and why all the fear Putin will invade Europe

Excellent observation.

Both Ukraine and Israel are truly working well if their roles are properly understood. Victory in wars for the United States in recent decades has never been achieved militarily. Usually, it worked like this: war served merely as a tool to fuel popular discontent and launch a coup d'état. However, a successful coup d'état requires obedient puppets to assume power.

In Iran the Americans killed all their own obedient puppets who were supposed to assume power. Clearly, this made victory impossible, even theoretically. In Russia, to prevent such a scenario, our shining leader Vladimir is gradually introducing Z-heroes with combat experience in Ukraine into the government. Therefore, politicians trained in the US understand that if something happens, these guys next to them will simply kill them without even batting an eye, because they did this dozens of times a day in Ukraine.

1 hour ago, zmisha said:

Therefore, politicians trained in the US understand that if something happens, these guys next to them will simply kill them without even batting an eye, because they did this dozens of times a day in Ukraine.

Emmm...

Yes, makes totally sense what you write. But what to expect from somebody who calls Putin "our shining leader Vladimir".