On 7/25/2026 at 9:35 AM, tomazbodner said:

except...

Eating a Maca donuts, KFC, Pizza once in a while is not going to kill you

eating them every single day may well hasten departure to the afterlife in certain cases

but probably not even all cases as there are many variables.

4 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Yes! You are reading me correctly Sir.

The 'complaints' you list in your post are not, in any way, caused by a virus, In fact they are all different symptoms of the body getting itself back into tip-top condition.

If you would like more info, don't hesitate to post.

Nature is us. We are nature.

Thank you very much for being so honest in sharing your opinion - and your beliefs.

It is certainly possible to hold differing opinions. However, when the existence of viruses is denied, this is no longer a matter of opinion; it contradicts scientifically established facts.

It would be for me the same if someone would tell me earnestly, that the eart is a flat slice.

Wish you all the best.

On 7/25/2026 at 7:55 PM, impulse said:

What's that? Are you claiming they checked for vaccination paperwork at the open border?

Remember how dystopian it was when we weren't allowed to eat out or go to the beach, but the "newcomers" had complete freedom of movement? When protesting the vaccine mandates got your bank account frozen, but protesting the police was fine?

The people from the South of the border came to Chicago and somehow contracted measles from the local population.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7319a1.htm

Then, they were exposed to tuberculosis shortly after crossing the border into the USA.

https://irl.umsl.edu/urs/130/

1 hour ago, Sigmund said:

Trillions of tax dollars spent by america in the last 50 years ...but a bit like most other developped countries, not much spent for the well being of their own and domestic issues. Disgraceful and Shame on all such nations, including those in western europe or the UK.

You clearly do not understand what you are talking about.

11 hours ago, Mr Awesome said:

The people from the South of the border came to Chicago and somehow contracted measles from the local population.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7319a1.htm

Then, they were exposed to tuberculosis shortly after crossing the border into the USA.

https://irl.umsl.edu/urs/130/

If all you read is the MSM, you'd probably miss the fact that most of the "outbreaks" are happening in migrant shelters and migrant communities. You almost have to look to the "unapproved sources" and the actual studies. Thanks for linking some.

The exception seemed to be the Mennonite community, which has seen an increase in measles cases. But their stance on vaccinations didn't change. What did change is their exposure to the millions of "newcomers".

5 hours ago, impulse said:

If all you read is the MSM, you'd probably miss the fact that most of the "outbreaks" are happening in migrant shelters and migrant communities. You almost have to look to the "unapproved sources" and the actual studies. Thanks for linking some.

The exception seemed to be the Mennonite community, which has seen an increase in measles cases. But their stance on vaccinations didn't change. What did change is their exposure to the millions of "newcomers".

"You almost have to look to the "unapproved sources" and the actual studies."

in other words, it's a lie! 😂

On 7/25/2026 at 7:35 AM, Jim Waldron said:

The US measles surge is the logical endgame of America’s “freedom experiment” in not vaccinating.

Though declared eliminated in 2000, it's now back with more cases in 18 months than the prior 25 years combined!

Sadly, as Dr Racine notes, children are bearing the brunt, with around 70% of cases in 2026 occurring in those under 20 years old, and nearly all patients unvaccinated.

The CDC may well call it an “avoidable public health failure" but the US seems determined to prove that ideology can 'trump' basic public health.

This isn’t innovation, it’s regression!

America would be a lot healthier if the complete vaccine schedule was scrapped. Along with 90% of BP medicine.

America went off the health rails many, many, years ago. The modern medical system is an absolute, anti-scientific, anti nature disgrace. All built on falsehoods, hoaxes and big, big $$$s. The present system is quackery on steroids.

Nature has the answers.

Edited 4 hours ago4 hr by Stiddle Mump

2 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

America went off the health rails many, many, years ago. The modern medical system is an absolute, anti-scientific, anti nature disgrace. All built on falsehoods, hoaxes and big, big $$$s. The present system is quackery on steroids.

"The modern medical system is an absolute, anti-scientific, anti nature disgrace."

Complaining about the pharma industrie and high prices is absoltley ok.

As this thread is about vaccines, you have disqualified yourself with several statements, and relegated yourself to the "tinfoil hat" camp.

You really need some help in my oppinion. The MAHA-guys know that they are talking bs. The biggest problem seems to be that you believe it.

Denying science as anti-scientific like the "MAHA"-guys who don't give a s**t about the US is really disturbing.

3 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

America would be a lot healthier if the complete vaccine schedule was scrapped. Along with 90% of BP medicine.

America went off the health rails many, many, years ago. The modern medical system is an absolute, anti-scientific, anti nature disgrace. All built on falsehoods, hoaxes and big, big $$$s. The present system is quackery on steroids.

Nature has the answers.

Nature can help in may ways. The problem lies when many people do things that get their bodies so out of whack they need medicines to keep them alive.

If their diet and lifestyle was changed, they can be weaned off many medicines, but many, like my own brother, didn't lose weight when he had diabetes. His heart got worse, where he needed medicine to keep the blood pressure low, but he still didn't listen and lose weight, so he had a heart attack.

It's true that doctors probably kill more people every year with over prescribing than many other ways of death, but they are needed to prescribe medicines that are needed by those many who let themselves go.

If people would start out young with a healthy lifestyle, they wouldn't need as many medicines as they use later in life. There are diseases in our world that can kill people, proven every day where healthy people die. People usually don't go from healthy to dead in a few days unless something is so powerful and fast acting happens. People get heart attacks from hurting themselves over time, usually a bad diet and or lack of movement. Covid killed many doctors and nurses in days, trying to save others afflicted.

I had H Pylori 2 years ago and finally got it eradicated after going on the 2 antibiotics and antacid regimen, which messed my stomach up to this day. I'm doing everything to get it back to normal and it's taken a long time because of the medicines that killed that H Pylori. That's an ailment most people carry, but only a smaller percentage are affected by it. if not curtailed with medicine, which has shown to be the only way, it can lead to gastro cancer. No ways of stopping it by nature,as they've tried.

Nature has some answers, and likely many more eventually, but there have been millions saved by vaccines, and millions that probably didn't need them, but better safe than sorry, especially with childhood maladies that can kill pretty quickly.

If people don't take blood pressure medicine when they're hearts have taken a beating by an unhealthy lifestyle, they can die. Trying out natural remedies, which always work slower than medicines, can have the patient dying before they help, whereas medicines can get the blood pressure down and keep it there. It's then up to them if they want to change their lifestyle to a healthier one.

37 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

Complaining about the pharma industrie and high prices is absoltley ok.

As this thread is about vaccines, you have disqualified yourself with several statements, and relegated yourself to the "tinfoil hat" camp.

You really need some help in my opinion. The MAHA-guys know that they are talking bs. The biggest problem seems to be that you believe it.

Denying science as anti-scientific like the "MAHA"-guys who don't give a s**t about the US is really disturbing.

Modern medicine, especially in the US, but not limited to just that country, is sheer quackery.

Research into the evolution of modern medicine shows that what we think of truths are nothing of the sort. Vaccines are mentioned in your post and I must ask you what are vaxxes supposed to be for? I'll step in and answer. To lessen the effects of - should they arise - or prevent, a specific disease. ASAIK all vaxxes are the response to a virus-causing illness/disease/sickness. A virus is said to cause a complaint and the vaxx is the answer. Well, show me a virus and I might change my mind. And I have looked; as have many others, and as of yet, no one has ever found one.

Here is a serious dilemma for the vaxx pushers, from the top $$$ wallers, to the know nothing white-coats pushing in the needle.

There is no virus IMO. And if there is no virus, how can it be claimed that a disease/sickness/illness is caused by one? And if it can't be shown, which it can't, that a complaint is caused by a virus, then what on earth is the value of a vaxx to counter balance the said complaint?

The whole theme of modern medicine is that of stifling symptoms when they arise. The fact that the symptoms are not the problem, but the cure, is lost on the medical charlatans.

The mighty Oak was once an acorn that stood its ground.