They asked Fauci what's causing the increase in measles but he pled the 5th.

Just being careful.

During his Senate confirmation hearing for his appointment to head the Department of Health and Human Services on Jan. 29, 2025, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. said: "All of my kids are vaccinated."

Does this mean nothing to anyone?

A man who insists vaccines are unnecessary made darned sure his kids were vaccinated.

Do his kids have autism now?

On 7/29/2026 at 8:50 PM, Schoggibueb said:

You write again repetitive that viruses do not exist.

Sorry to say - I will not read anything of you again on AN.

My idea of isolation and purification.

Note; The virology plan it is not.

4 hours ago, Purdey said:

During his Senate confirmation hearing for his appointment to head the Department of Health and Human Services on Jan. 29, 2025, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. said: "All of my kids are vaccinated."

Does this mean nothing to anyone?

A man who insists vaccines are unnecessary made darned sure his kids were vaccinated.

Do his kids have autism now?

I don't know and even less care. As he doesen't care for public health either.

But to be fair, he himself said that he had a "brain worm". That would be somehow an excuse. Maybe...

Or when he started to consume a few drugs. But that started long time ago in 1968... moving from psychedelics and amphetamines to intravenous heroin, which he used for 14 years. Only....

C'mon, only 14 years heroin after a few trips and mushrooms and speed...

Edited July 31Jul 31 by Schoggibueb

On 7/30/2026 at 8:41 PM, gamb00ler said:

and your opinion is based on your experiments? Based in misinformation regarding the Enders experiments in 1954?

The truth is that the much maligned (amongst fringe elements) Enders experiment has been replicated and verified many times. The nay sayers are just fabricating lies about the verified research.

The measles virus was initially isolated in 1954 by John Enders and his close co-worker Thomas Peebles. Rather than separate external groups immediately replicating a distinct "Enders virus," John Enders worked alongside an integrated research team at Boston Children's Hospital and Harvard to study, characterize, and expand the findings.

Key Collaborators and Co-Researchers

• Thomas C. Peebles: Co-discovered and co-isolated the original Edmonston strain from patient blood samples with Enders in 1954.

• Kevin McCarthy: Worked with the Enders laboratory group to analyze the properties and behavior of the isolated agent.

• Milan Milovanovic: Collaborated on the further laboratory propagation and characterization of the measles culture.

• Anna Mitus: Assisted in clinical and laboratory verifications connected to the isolate.

• Ann Holloway: Participated in the subsequent cultivation and testing of the viral behavior.

These charlatans are well known to me. I've written about their misguided and anti-science endeavors in the past.

All anti-nature.

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

These charlatans are well known to me. I've written about their misguided and anti-science endeavors in the past.

All anti-nature.

all you have is some other internet kook's whispers in your ear as the basis of your opinion. You've been completely hoodwinked.... since you have so few medical facts on which to judge any opinion, it's to be expected.

21 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

all you have is some other internet kook's whispers in your ear as the basis of your opinion. You've been completely hoodwinked.... since you have so few medical facts on which to judge any opinion, it's to be expected.

There is no lab experiment that I'm aware of that shows the isolation and purification of any virus. and IMO, it cannot be achieved anyway, as the naughty, elusive virus, is as rare as a flying elephant.

All this 'ology gobblegook is for good reason (for them). Firstly to maintain the elusion of the 'germ theory'. Secondly to keep the populous ill and ill-informed. Thirdly to line the pockets of the evil-doers in the medical system. That is the BP (Big Pharma) companies, to the revolving door execs, to the know-nothing safe n effective little kid needle pushers.

We are nature. Nature is us.

Edited August 2Aug 2 by Stiddle Mump

On 7/30/2026 at 10:08 PM, Cameroni said:

They asked Fauci what's causing the increase in measles but he pled the 5th.

Just being careful.

He was asked to confirm his name and what colour the carpet was. 5th sorted out those tricky questions.

9 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

There is no lab experiment that I'm aware of

LOL.... that's operative phrase in your whole spiel.... you've carefully found only confirming nonsense in your 'research' and tiptoed through the minefield of replicated and verified results.

Edited August 2Aug 2 by gamb00ler

On 8/1/2026 at 8:32 PM, gamb00ler said:

all you have is some other internet kook's whispers in your ear as the basis of your opinion. You've been completely hoodwinked.... since you have so few medical facts on which to judge any opinion, it's to be expected.

First he says viruses don't exist outside a petri dish,

Yes, viruses are found in large amounts outside of petri dishes. In fact, they are found in almost every ecosystem on Earth and are the most common biological entities on the planet. [1, 2] ,

and then you can't isolate one, which means they exist. Contradictory claims that viruses do not exist yet simultaneously cannot be isolated rely on flawed logic, because scientists routinely isolate and study viruses.

The Contradiction in Denial

• First claim: Deniers state that viruses are completely fake or do not exist.

• Second claim: The same sources often claim that a pure virus has never been physically separated or "isolated" from a sample.

• The logical flaw: You cannot demand the isolation of something you claim is not real. If a person argues about the specific method used to isolate a particle, they are already admitting that a physical entity or sample is present to be tested.

Scientific Reality of Isolation

• Separation: Laboratories worldwide isolate viruses by filtering samples, growing them in cell cultures, and capturing images using electron microscopes.

• Genetic Sequencing: Scientists map the exact RNA or DNA codes of these particles, proving they are distinct biological agents rather than normal cell debris.

• He is right that nature has a lot of answers and cures, but all have yet to be found, if they will at all. Modern medicine, vaccinations for diseases, has undoubtedly saved hundreds of thousands of lives, and the outbreak now is largely because many aren't vaccinating for known entities.

• Another fact that some miss, is that most Blue Zone citizens vaccinate, and are still living longer on average than anyone else on earth, which is proof enough. Yes, the majority of people living in designated longevity hotspots do participate in mainstream public health measures, including vaccination. Research and regional observations from areas like Ikaria, Greece, and Nicoya, Costa Rica, show high local vaccination uptake, tracking closely with or exceeding national averages.

Edited August 2Aug 2 by fredwiggy

5 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Another fact that some miss, is that most Blue Zone citizens vaccinate, and are still living longer on average than anyone else on earth, which is proof enough. Yes, the majority of people living in designated longevity hotspots do participate in mainstream public health measures, including vaccination

LOL.... some see a HUGE conspiracy existing in every country..... even under their bed!

They fall for one fallacy and then construct a conspiracy theory requiring many thousands of people... just so they don't have to admit an error.

Edited August 3Aug 3 by gamb00ler

On 7/27/2026 at 6:17 PM, nexus7 said:

"During the 1950s, the United States averaged nearly 500 measles deaths and over 500,000 reported cases each year, though actual infections reached an estimated 3 to 4 million annually"

500 deaths out of 4 million cases is a 0.01% fatality rate, not particularly high.

Firstly, I don't think the bereaved and devastated families of those 500 (virtually all children) would consider the toll not particularly high.

Secondly, you seem to ignore the fact that death was far from being the only adverse outcome from a measles infection.

Complications from measles include the following.

Ear infections, occurring in about 1 out of every 10 children, sometimes leading to permanent hearing loss.

Eye damage, up to and including blindness.

Pneumonia, affecting up to 1 out of every 20 children and the leading cause of death from measles in young kids.

Encephalitis, developing in roughly 1 out of every 1,000 children, causing brain swelling that could lead to seizures, deafness, or intellectual disability.

Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE): A rare, fatal central nervous system disease that emerges years after the initial infection.

Finally, one of the most insidious and deleterious effects of measles was (and is) immune amnesia. The measles virus routinely weakens the immune system, making patients vulnerable to a whole range of other unrelated infections, sometimes temporarily but also sometimes on a long-term basis lasting for years.

Just to put a number on it, there were on average 48,000 hospitalisations per year because of measles in the US per, before the vaccine became available.

The deaths were actually only the tip of the iceberg, as far as the overall morbidity due to measles goes.

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/history.html

Edited August 3Aug 3 by GroveHillWanderer

1 hour ago, gamb00ler said:

LOL.... some see a HUGE conspiracy existing in every country..... even under their bed!

They fall for one fallacy and then construct a conspiracy theory requiring many thousands of people... just so they don't have to admit an error.

Many well known and respected scientists have been wrong in their studies.

Odd response from JFKJr in the CNN interview.......

His defence was that he couldn't be held responsible for the US numbers as they were localised clusters due to religious groups who refuse vaccinations........does that mean vaccinations work?

22 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

He was asked to confirm his name and what colour the carpet was. 5th sorted out those tricky questions.

If you found those questions tricky... .then you're understanding of medicine is comprehendable.

I probably wouldn't get the vaccine. The world has changed and millions aren't dying of measles. The vast majority recover completely in a couple weeks and deaths are extremely rare. I would get the vaccine though if it became apparent it was becoming a real issue and spreading.

1 minute ago, atpeace said:

would get the vaccine though if it became apparent it was becoming a real issue and spreading.

By which time it may be too late for you as they are given in two routine doses: the first dose at 12 to 15 months of age, and the second dose at 4 to 6 year!

Edited August 3Aug 3 by scottiejohn

Not for me but to stop the spread. I'm not concerned about my risk but understand that others are and they should get vacinated.

5 minutes ago, atpeace said:

I would get the vaccine though if it became apparent it was becoming a real issue and spreading.

That is exactly the reason why a vaccine is made before a virus is spreading.

If you haven't realized that, just let it be. You still can hope that the hospital still has a bed available for you when "you have an issue". For me personally, nobody who thinks this way would deserve one.

"I, me, myself..."

Just now, Schoggibueb said:

That is exactly the reason why a vaccine is made before a virus is spreading.

If you haven't realized that, just let it be. You still can hope that the hospital still has a bed available for you when "you have an issue". For me personally, nobody who thinks this way would deserve one.

"I, me, myself..."

Calm down dude and stop being an infant.

I assume you have been vaccinated for the 30 life-threatening human diseases that we have vaccines for?

Edited August 3Aug 3 by atpeace

7 minutes ago, atpeace said:

Calm down dude and stop being an infant.

I assume you have been vaccinated for the 30 life-threatening human diseases that we have vaccines for?

The "30 life-threatening human diseases" include diseases that are not needed in many countries. I was never in Africa...

But I did make some before I went to travel to south america as a backpacker in the 90ies. The Swiss Tropical and Public Health Institute helped me with the decisions to take for vaccines.

So if you want to call out for being an infant - look in the mirror - dude...

22 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

The "30 life-threatening human diseases" include diseases that are not needed in many countries. I was never in Africa...

But I did make some before I went to travel to south america as a backpacker in the 90ies. The Swiss Tropical and Public Health Institute helped me with the decisions to take for vaccines.

So if you want to call out for being an infant - look in the mirror - dude...

No, I'll just look at you prior post to me. Grow Up and maybe read your prior post where you were a jerk for no reason. Do you think your anger is cool?

7 minutes ago, atpeace said:

No, I'll just look at you prior post to me. Grow Up and maybe read your prior post where you were a jerk for no reason. Do you think your anger is cool?

Do you think your egoism is cool?

No dude - it isn't.

16 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Firstly, I don't think the bereaved and devastated families of those 500 (virtually all children) would consider the toll not particularly high.

Secondly, you seem to ignore the fact that death was far from being the only adverse outcome from a measles infection.

Complications from measles include the following.

Ear infections, occurring in about 1 out of every 10 children, sometimes leading to permanent hearing loss.

Eye damage, up to and including blindness.

Pneumonia, affecting up to 1 out of every 20 children and the leading cause of death from measles in young kids.

Encephalitis, developing in roughly 1 out of every 1,000 children, causing brain swelling that could lead to seizures, deafness, or intellectual disability.

Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE): A rare, fatal central nervous system disease that emerges years after the initial infection.

Finally, one of the most insidious and deleterious effects of measles was (and is) immune amnesia. The measles virus routinely weakens the immune system, making patients vulnerable to a whole range of other unrelated infections, sometimes temporarily but also sometimes on a long-term basis lasting for years.

Just to put a number on it, there were on average 48,000 hospitalisations per year because of measles in the US per, before the vaccine became available.

The deaths were actually only the tip of the iceberg, as far as the overall morbidity due to measles goes.

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/history.html

Quite the scare story you've compiled there. The vaccine makers would love that.

Of all the people I knew who got it as children, all of them made a complete recovery.

Were you also a cheer leader for the clot-shot?