53 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

I am still interested, maybe, in another Black Beauty.

Surely, you must realize that I long to be back in the saddle.

In that case, skip the treadmill altogether and hop a night train down to Bangkok. Then pop on over to Sukhumvit Soi 11 around midnight. You'll feel like you just woke up in the middle of Dar es Salaam. You'll be surrounded by more black saddle than you can straddle. Don't forget to post photos from your adventures.

Hills will make your heart strong as an ox, but not always available. Any walking is good enough.

You could walk outdoors with a light weighted vest (8 kg), unless you're obese and have bad knees.

You could also pace in your home with dumbbells (farmer's carries) while watching TV.

Or just get a treadmill. Although the walking motion on a treadmill is not the same as real walking on the ground, so not ideal over time.

Edited yesterday at 02:27 AM1 day by save the frogs

Can we PLEASE get serious here, if only for a moment?

The question I asked in the HEADLINE of this TOPIC is NOT an idle question that NOBODY has never asked before.

Even if YOU might not believe me, I can guarantee you that there are MANY TV-MEMBERS who need an answer to the question I have asked.

Here is Proof:

So very unfortunately, most TV-Guys just make fun of us members who are interested in renting treadmills.

Nobody gives us any good advice.

WHY?

Are you all a bunch of sloths, or something?

Back in the year 2021, KUNJAY, in his OP, asked the same question I am now asking.

Both Kunjay and I are interested in RENTING/LEASING premium quality (commercial-grade) treadmills.

Yet, the response is always, fundamentally, the same:

Most people here just tell us to go climb a building, or go to the Mall, and walk UP the Down escalator.

==============

Is there NO-ONE who is willing to listen to reason?

What IS the reason, anyway?

REASON to RENT/LEASE instead of BUY.....

Have YOU ever bought anything in Thaialnd?

If you have, then you will realize that the best strategy is to lease or rent something such as exercise equipment.

When one leases, then one does not pay for a machine that does not work...."No-Work"....

Also, ORANG37 offered an insightful comment, back in March 12, 2021:

Orang stated:

considering weight (your weight, its weight), price, ruggedness, cost of repair, etc. ... join a health club for whatever duration ?

i'd be curious to know if anyone here who weighs over 70  kg. has a frequently used  treadmill over one year old ...  purchased for  20k  baht or less  ...  that has not broken down.

if you go to a health club, you might get ... inspiration; or, guilt, that motivates you.

~o:37;

So....SERIOUSLY....guys.....

I, or anyone, at least in my view, would be a fool to purchase something like a treadmill, outright.

Far better to lease the equipment, and then hold the company's feet to the fire, to keep it running, as it should, or....

Just stop paying for broken equipment.

I have no problems buying a rice cooker.

When the rice cooker's handle falls off, then I send it to the roadside bin, for trash pickup.

But, there is no way I can do the same with a 150 Kg treadmill that stops working....MID-STRIDE.....

i will lease/rent.

I require reliability.

If this machine fails, then just get it out of my house, please....

And, send me a replacement.

This is the kind of service I am looking for.

I would NEVER buy motorized/electronic exercise equipment, such as a treadmill.

Especially in an area where the power grid might not be completely stable.

Note: Here is a link to a great Topic, but sorry there are no good answers, thus far.....

8 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Hills will make your heart strong as an ox, but not always available. Any walking is good enough.

You could walk outdoors with a light weighted vest (8 kg), unless you're obese and have bad knees.

You could also pace in your home with dumbbells (farmer's carries) while watching TV.

Or just get a treadmill. Although the walking motion on a treadmill is not the same as real walking on the ground, so not ideal over time.

Plenty of good hills around CMU, of course.

But, that's a long way to go just to find a good hill.

3 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Here is my alternative plan:

If you, or someone you know, might be a local CM distributor of PREMIUM Commercial-grade treadmills...then....

aa. Would you be willing to allow me to test your treadmill in my house, for free?

bb. In exchange, I would gladly create videos of myself on said treadmill, during the course of about six months, beginning in August.

cc. I am willing to create promotional/marketing content, featuring ME.... with....

Before and after shots using your treadmill over the course of one-half year.

Also, I would be willing to dress in women's lingerie, bra, panties, etc....while on the treadmill....

And video it, in order to promote your product.

My only requirement is that your machine is a premium-grade machine.

And, that you provide a working machine which is well maintained.

I am desperate enough. even for this.

My mind is made up.

I must begin my hill climbing again, even if I must replicate this hill-climbing indoors.

Thank you.

Grok is your friend. I can vouch for IronTec. I've bought equipment there before.

Specialized fitness equipment showrooms and sports stores in Chiang Mai stock exercise treadmills (home and commercial models), along with options via malls, online retailers with local delivery, and Facebook Marketplace.

Dedicated Fitness Equipment Stores / Showrooms

These typically offer the widest selection, try-before-you-buy options, warranties, delivery, and installation:

• IRONTEC Chiang Mai: Large showroom with many models to test. Address: 55/1 Chiang Mai–Lampang Superhighway (ถนนซุปเปอร์ไฮเวย์เชียงใหม่-ลำปาง), Chang Phueak, near Khuang Singh (สี่แยกข่วงสิงห์) intersection, before Lanna Hospital. Phone: 093-338-2538 or 065-415-2777. Open daily ~9:30 AM–6:30 PM.

• Power Life Fit / Johnson Chiang Mai (Horizon, Tempo, Matrix, and related brands): Local dealer with online catalog of treadmills. Phone: 061-552-8955; Locations include areas in Si Phum (e.g., Asadathon Rd.) and Tha Sala (Klang Ring Road). Website: johnsonchiangmaishop.com.

• Force Fitness (Power Reform): Showroom with various fitness machines including treadmills. Address: 55/10 Railway Road (ถนนเลียบทางรถไฟ), Tha Sala (near Montfort College / T1 Business Park area). Phone: 094-2829796. Open ~9 AM–7 PM.

• Fitness Equipment Asia (commercial/gym-grade equipment, linked to Pump Fitness): Address: 25/1 Soi 2 Chang Phueak Road, Sriphum. Phone: 081-595-0289 or 091-858-1846.

Broader Sports Retailers

• Decathlon Chiang Mai: Affordable home treadmills (e.g., Domyos models). Main store at 17/17 Moo 4, Nong Pa Khrang (on the Superhighway area); phone 053-111-754. Open daily ~9 AM–9 PM. There may also be a branch near IKEA/Hang Dong. Check stock in-store or online (decathlon.co.th) for delivery.

• Super Sports (in major malls): Locations at Central Festival Chiang Mai (Floor 2), Central Plaza Chiang Mai Airport, and Kad Suan Kaew. They carry brands like Horizon, Irontec, and others; online ordering available with possible in-store pickup or delivery.

Other Options

• Online with delivery to Chiang Mai: Central.co.th, Lazada, Shopee, SuperSports.co.th, and brand sites (often with free or low-cost shipping above a threshold, plus installation for larger units). Prices for home models commonly range from roughly 10,000–50,000+ THB depending on features (motor power, incline, folding, apps/connectivity).

• Facebook Marketplace: Search “ลู่วิ่ง” or “treadmill Chiang Mai” for new and used listings (including commercial units).

• City Sport or other regional fitness suppliers may also serve the area.

Tips: Call or visit showrooms first to confirm current stock, pricing, warranties (motors often longer than frames), delivery/installation fees (sometimes free or included for local purchases), and power requirements (Thai outlets). Commercial models are heavier-duty and more expensive. For used equipment, inspect condition carefully. Local dealers can often arrange service support afterward.

Edited yesterday at 03:17 AM1 day by connda

43 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Plenty of good hills around CMU, of course.

I used to park my motorbike at the base or Doi Suthep and walk a few kilometers up and back.

3 minutes ago, connda said:

I used to park my motorbike at the base or Doi Suthep and walk a few kilometers up and back.

Yes.

If you live in that area, then you are in luck.

No need to buy anything, other than a good pair of shoes.

In addition, there are many good hill-trails with almost zero dogs.

There are many trails up and behind the zoo, for example.

Buying/leasing a treadmill would be a very poor substitute for the real thing.

why bother, you summed it in the opening verbose introduction -- dead weight.

28 minutes ago, connda said:

I used to park my motorbike at the base or Doi Suthep and walk a few kilometers up and back.

Speaking of the trails behind the zoo, (Doi Suthep).....

As I said, while on a treadmill, one does not often see sights like this:

This is the advantage of living in that particular area.

No need to buy anything.....

Just walk, and enjoy.....

I'm not sure what those hippos are doing up there, behind the zoo, high up in the hills.

I doubt they are indigenous to the Chiang Mai area.

Sometimes, they make a lot of noise, though....

OP, a treadmill will wreck your knees. Buy an exercise bike with resistance settings. The exercise will be just as good cardio, and you can ramp up the resistance without risking being crippled.

4 hours ago, Lacessit said:

OP, a treadmill will wreck your knees. Buy an exercise bike with resistance settings. The exercise will be just as good cardio, and you can ramp up the resistance without risking being crippled.

Not unless you already have "wrecked" knees. I've had knee problems for most of my life and my "go-to" exercise for cardio is walking inclines on either a hill or on an inclined treadmill. But if you knees are pre-wrecked, closed-chain exercise on an exercise bike is probably the way to go.

you have too much time on your hands and may be the most boring poster ever

On 7/28/2026 at 1:56 AM, GammaGlobulin said:

So, if you have any good ideas

I bought mine at Decathlon. With warranty.

Btw. If you need more exercises and used to climb: there are hundreds of temples on the mountains and hills around Chiangmai. Uncomfortable steps included.

Start from the bottom of Doi Suthep or Doi Saket or Doi Inthanon.

Have fun 😊

I have one I would willingly offer for sale. You'll have to transport it yourself, or arrange for same. Worked quite well but both my partner and I have aging issues and aren't able to use it. Located in Chom Thong. PM me for details and an offer.

23 hours ago, Lacessit said:

OP, a treadmill will wreck your knees.

Consider Elliptical machines provide a safe, low-impact cardio workout that burns calories, protects joints, and engages the full body - Especially when you hit a 130+ BPM.

https://www.healthline.com/health/fitness-exercise/elliptical-benefits#takeaway

On 7/28/2026 at 5:14 AM, connda said:

Grok is your friend. I can vouch for IronTec. I've bought equipment there before.

Specialized fitness equipment showrooms and sports stores in Chiang Mai stock exercise treadmills (home and commercial models), along with options via malls, online retailers with local delivery, and Facebook Marketplace.

Dedicated Fitness Equipment Stores / Showrooms

These typically offer the widest selection, try-before-you-buy options, warranties, delivery, and installation:

• IRONTEC Chiang Mai: Large showroom with many models to test. Address: 55/1 Chiang Mai–Lampang Superhighway (ถนนซุปเปอร์ไฮเวย์เชียงใหม่-ลำปาง), Chang Phueak, near Khuang Singh (สี่แยกข่วงสิงห์) intersection, before Lanna Hospital. Phone: 093-338-2538 or 065-415-2777. Open daily ~9:30 AM–6:30 PM.

• Power Life Fit / Johnson Chiang Mai (Horizon, Tempo, Matrix, and related brands): Local dealer with online catalog of treadmills. Phone: 061-552-8955; Locations include areas in Si Phum (e.g., Asadathon Rd.) and Tha Sala (Klang Ring Road). Website: johnsonchiangmaishop.com.

• Force Fitness (Power Reform): Showroom with various fitness machines including treadmills. Address: 55/10 Railway Road (ถนนเลียบทางรถไฟ), Tha Sala (near Montfort College / T1 Business Park area). Phone: 094-2829796. Open ~9 AM–7 PM.

• Fitness Equipment Asia (commercial/gym-grade equipment, linked to Pump Fitness): Address: 25/1 Soi 2 Chang Phueak Road, Sriphum. Phone: 081-595-0289 or 091-858-1846.

Broader Sports Retailers

• Decathlon Chiang Mai: Affordable home treadmills (e.g., Domyos models). Main store at 17/17 Moo 4, Nong Pa Khrang (on the Superhighway area); phone 053-111-754. Open daily ~9 AM–9 PM. There may also be a branch near IKEA/Hang Dong. Check stock in-store or online (decathlon.co.th) for delivery.

• Super Sports (in major malls): Locations at Central Festival Chiang Mai (Floor 2), Central Plaza Chiang Mai Airport, and Kad Suan Kaew. They carry brands like Horizon, Irontec, and others; online ordering available with possible in-store pickup or delivery.

Other Options

• Online with delivery to Chiang Mai: Central.co.th, Lazada, Shopee, SuperSports.co.th, and brand sites (often with free or low-cost shipping above a threshold, plus installation for larger units). Prices for home models commonly range from roughly 10,000–50,000+ THB depending on features (motor power, incline, folding, apps/connectivity).

• Facebook Marketplace: Search “ลู่วิ่ง” or “treadmill Chiang Mai” for new and used listings (including commercial units).

• City Sport or other regional fitness suppliers may also serve the area.

Tips: Call or visit showrooms first to confirm current stock, pricing, warranties (motors often longer than frames), delivery/installation fees (sometimes free or included for local purchases), and power requirements (Thai outlets). Commercial models are heavier-duty and more expensive. For used equipment, inspect condition carefully. Local dealers can often arrange service support afterward.

Exactly the same list that Gemini put out, per my post right at the beginning of this thread; but our friend GammaGlobulin does not believe in robots, so I doubt he accepts an answer from Grok -- or Google for that matter -- either.

I would have recommended to him to call or visit one or the other store on this list (international namebrand names!), but for some reason this is also not an acceptable advice, neither is walking stairs, or... just walking. And still he complains, that "nobody" is willing to give him any advice.

I have given him the benefit of the doubt many times before, but my patience with him has finally run out now.

Edited 6 hours ago6 hr by jts-khorat

On 7/28/2026 at 7:39 AM, fredwiggy said:

It might be hard for you to get past the front desk with a rifle, so just wear workout clothes. I never use treadmills and just walk, but I did post a map showing some places in Chiang Mai you could buy one. I'm sure they'll tell you if you could rent also. My resting pulse is 58 and BP is usually 115-60, and rarely ever did cardio. My line of work was personal trainer, gun salesman and driver, among other things.

Please note; I would not bee too proud of your low resting pulse, if I were you.

Lower pulse rates are a symptom of the aging process.

This includes the resting pulse rate, as well, as I recall.

1 hour ago, jts-khorat said:

but our friend GammaGlobulin does not believe in robots

I never trust robots, correct. and neither should you, if you know what's good for you.

4 hours ago, fredge45 said:

I have one I would willingly offer for sale. You'll have to transport it yourself, or arrange for same. Worked quite well but both my partner and I have aging issues and aren't able to use it. Located in Chom Thong. PM me for details and an offer.

OK.

Thank you.

Let me first check what is available in my area.

1 minute ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Please note; I would not bee too proud of your low resting pulse, if I were you.

Lower pulse rates are a symptom of the aging process.

This includes the resting pulse rate, as well, as I recall.

No, a low resting pulse is the sign of an athlete, and a person who's eaten healthy all his life. High resting pulses are the problem. It doesn't have to be under 60 to be good. As long as it's under 80 you're okay, along with having a good blood pressure. Normal is considered 60-100. Healthy average around 70. Some athletes can go as low as 45-50.

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

No, a low resting pulse is the sign of an athlete, and a person who's eaten healthy all his life. High resting pulses are the problem. It doesn't have to be under 60 to be good. As long as it's under 80 you're okay, along with having a good blood pressure. Normal is considered 60-100. Healthy average around 70. Some athletes can go as low as 45-50.

Low resting pulse has various causes, as you should know, if you are in the health business.

4 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Low resting pulse has various causes, as you should know, if you are in the health business.

Yes, a person who's exercised and eaten healthy all their lives is the main one. Taking out medications, a thyroid problem, chemical imbalances (usually temporary), then yes, aging is another. Mine has been 57-62 for over 50 years. You will usually have other symptoms if a low resting pulse isn't your norm.

Edited 5 hours ago5 hr by fredwiggy

On 7/28/2026 at 11:40 AM, Lacessit said:

OP, a treadmill will wreck your knees. Buy an exercise bike with resistance settings. The exercise will be just as good cardio, and you can ramp up the resistance without risking being crippled.

Naturally, one should always give the knee joint and protecting the knee joint careful consideration.

However, I believe that using a treadmill will not overtax or damage the knee joint any more than climbing hills around the CMU area, especially while in the company of hippos.

Still, it is important to raise this potential issue.

As for me, I will not use a too-high incline without working up to it gradually, over a significant period of time.

I will also not use the treadmill for running, jogging, or high-stress maneuvers.

If you are able to show evidence, through providing a link, which demonstrates that using a treadmill, compared to hill climbing, is more likely to contribute to knee damage, or what you call some crippling effect, then...

Please let me know, immediately.

Thank you.

Edited 4 hours ago4 hr by GammaGlobulin

8 hours ago, jippytum said:

you have too much time on your hands and may be the most boring poster ever

You opinion is highly subjective.

1 hour ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Naturally, one should always give the knee joint and protecting the knee joint careful consideration.

However, I believe that using a treadmill will not overtax or damage the knee joint any more than climbing hills around the CMU area, especially while in the company of hippos.

Still, it is important to raise this potential issue.

As for me, I will not use a too-high incline without working up to it gradually, over a significant period of time.

I will also not use the treadmill for running, jogging, or high-stress maneuvers.

If you are able to show evidence, through providing a link, which demonstrates that using a treadmill, compared to hill climbing, is more likely to contribute to knee damage, or what you call some crippling effect, then...

Please let me know, immediately.

Thank you.

The only link I can provide is AI, which you will not accept. Gemini, Claude and Grok are unanimous.

Try and look at it empirically. When your foot strikes a treadmill, your knee is supporting your full body weight. On an exercise bike, your body weight is supported by the seat, and the stress on the knee is minimal. Which method of exercise has the potential to be more damaging?

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

The only link I can provide is AI, which you will not accept. Gemini, Claude and Grok are unanimous.

Try and look at it empirically. When your foot strikes a treadmill, your knee is supporting your full body weight. On an exercise bike, your body weight is supported by the seat, and the stress on the knee is minimal. Which method of exercise has the potential to be more damaging?

The reason I do not accept what robots write is because they are still stupid.

They don't think.

They do not know how to weigh conflicting information, except maybe by weighing it based on unimportant metrics.

In fact, this topic came up years ago when the media was discussing the jogging exercise that either Big Bush or Little Bush was doing.

In fact, there are studies shown that weight-bearing exercise actually increases health of knee joints.

I prefer to walk like a man, not swing through trees like a monkey.

For sure if managed properly, walking is a great exercise.

This can be replicated on a treadmill.

I would need to read reputable studies showing otherwise.

Everything, for me, must be evidence based.

2 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

The reason I do not accept what robots write is because they are still stupid.

They don't think.

They do not know how to weigh conflicting information, except maybe by weighing it based on unimportant metrics.

In fact, this topic came up years ago when the media was discussing the jogging exercise that either Big Bush or Little Bush was doing.

In fact, there are studies shown that weight-bearing exercise actually increases health of knee joints.

I prefer to walk like a man, not swing through trees like a monkey.

For sure if managed properly, walking is a great exercise.

This can be replicated on a treadmill.

I would need to read reputable studies showing otherwise.

Everything, for me, must be evidence based.

There's evidence, and there's logic.

By your own admission, you weigh 100 kg. I don't care how good your knees are, that's a big load.

Will you have enough evidence when you need a walking frame?

8 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

There's evidence, and there's logic.

By your own admission, you weigh 100 kg. I don't care how good your knees are, that's a big load.

Will you have enough evidence when you need a walking frame?

Wait: I did NOT say that I weigh 100 Kg.

I do not want to buy a treadmill which is merely a toy and cannot accommodate at least 100 to 140 kgs user.

Therefore, I will rent a machine with excess capacity, which is only the wise thing to do.

On 7/28/2026 at 1:56 AM, GammaGlobulin said:

Speaking of treadmills, there are various kinds, and many are merely toys.

Treadmills are lame. Get a good elliptical machine, low impact.

On 7/28/2026 at 6:52 AM, GammaGlobulin said:

Anyway, there are no tall building near my house, within walking distance.

Get yourself a tall bamboo ladder and lean up against a tree and climb. Problem solved.

On 7/28/2026 at 1:56 AM, GammaGlobulin said:

Thank you, ALL, for your kind consideration.

Yeah well, it was only a few seconds of my wasted time.