Soource: https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/why-medicine-wont-cure-youand-how

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Story at a Glance:

• No industry, organization, or cause tasked with solving a problem will actually solve it, because the problem disappearing threatens their economic livelihood or political power.

• The pharmaceutical industry has perfected this model: drugs are designed to be taken perpetually rather than cure, side effects create demand for additional drugs, and the entire regulatory apparatus is structured to suppress affordable natural therapies that challenge it.

• SSRIs epitomize this dynamic—massively overprescribed, frequently life-ruining, and nearly impossible to withdraw from—yet for decades, the industry successfully kept all criticism of them out of mainstream discourse.

• Kennedy announced a multiagency federal effort to combat inappropriate SSRI prescribing, train providers in how to correctly taper patients off antidepressants, and provide non-pharmaceutical alternatives.
• This marks the first time in memory a federal health initiative has aimed to help get patients off a major drug class rather than on one.

And this cartoon tells the harsh truth:

22 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Soource: https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/why-medicine-wont-cure-youand-how

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Story at a Glance:

• No industry, organization, or cause tasked with solving a problem will actually solve it, because the problem disappearing threatens their economic livelihood or political power.

• The pharmaceutical industry has perfected this model: drugs are designed to be taken perpetually rather than cure, side effects create demand for additional drugs, and the entire regulatory apparatus is structured to suppress affordable natural therapies that challenge it.

• SSRIs epitomize this dynamic—massively overprescribed, frequently life-ruining, and nearly impossible to withdraw from—yet for decades, the industry successfully kept all criticism of them out of mainstream discourse.

• Kennedy announced a multiagency federal effort to combat inappropriate SSRI prescribing, train providers in how to correctly taper patients off antidepressants, and provide non-pharmaceutical alternatives.
• This marks the first time in memory a federal health initiative has aimed to help get patients off a major drug class rather than on one.

And this cartoon tells the harsh truth:

Why do we get sick? There are only a handful of reasons why. Yet the medical industry would have us believe there are thousands. And as far as they are concerned each reason has a pill, a drug, an injection or a procedure.

I don't know. Take enough, long enough, and it helps cure the mind and body of pain. At least till it recovers on it's on, although, no recovery for some as no cure for some pain ... 😁

22 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Soource: https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/why-medicine-wont-cure-youand-how

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Story at a Glance:

• No industry, organization, or cause tasked with solving a problem will actually solve it, because the problem disappearing threatens their economic livelihood or political power.

• The pharmaceutical industry has perfected this model: drugs are designed to be taken perpetually rather than cure, side effects create demand for additional drugs, and the entire regulatory apparatus is structured to suppress affordable natural therapies that challenge it.

• SSRIs epitomize this dynamic—massively overprescribed, frequently life-ruining, and nearly impossible to withdraw from—yet for decades, the industry successfully kept all criticism of them out of mainstream discourse.

• Kennedy announced a multiagency federal effort to combat inappropriate SSRI prescribing, train providers in how to correctly taper patients off antidepressants, and provide non-pharmaceutical alternatives.
• This marks the first time in memory a federal health initiative has aimed to help get patients off a major drug class rather than on one.

And this cartoon tells the harsh truth:

Thank you Red.

Why do we get sick? There are only a handful of reasons why. Yet the medical industry would have us believe there are thousands. And as far as they are concerned each of those reasons has a pill, a drug, an injection or a procedure that will sort it. Often hooking the naive, and unaware, to a life-time of dependency on their toxic junk

It all started about 120 years ago. Big money was available for any medical teaching establishment that went in a specific direction as far as sickness was concerned. Nature was sidelined, and the new kid on the block, much of which came from the new oil industry, was modern medicine.

Since those days, the medical industry has made itself a fortress. Nothing at all negative can be uttered. Not in Journals. Not in MSM. And any well-meaning voice is immediately jumped on.

Fortunately, we now have the www. It is there for anyone who has doubts as to the truth of what is being trotted out by the authorities. And although many are awake to the shenanigans of the industry, not nearly enough show an interest in their own health and that of their loved ones. Apathy and ignorance still are k!ng.

Nature is clever than most people realise. We must return to it in order to fulfil our destiny.

56 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Soource: https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/why-medicine-wont-cure-youand-how

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Story at a Glance:

• No industry, organization, or cause tasked with solving a problem will actually solve it, because the problem disappearing threatens their economic livelihood or political power.

• The pharmaceutical industry has perfected this model: drugs are designed to be taken perpetually rather than cure, side effects create demand for additional drugs, and the entire regulatory apparatus is structured to suppress affordable natural therapies that challenge it.

• SSRIs epitomize this dynamic—massively overprescribed, frequently life-ruining, and nearly impossible to withdraw from—yet for decades, the industry successfully kept all criticism of them out of mainstream discourse.

• Kennedy announced a multiagency federal effort to combat inappropriate SSRI prescribing, train providers in how to correctly taper patients off antidepressants, and provide non-pharmaceutical alternatives.
• This marks the first time in memory a federal health initiative has aimed to help get patients off a major drug class rather than on one.

And this cartoon tells the harsh truth:

I assume from that since you are promoting this crap so called science that you have never taken any medicine in your life!

Just read the whole thing, although not yet watched the vids.

https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/why-medicine-wont-cure-youand-how

A big section on DMSO I was pleased to see. This substance really is the biz. A few years ago a book was published named 'The DMSO handbook for Doctors.' Within months, virtually all references to it had disappeared. As the Midwest doc says; a patient cured is a patient lost.

Thanks to some enlightened people in the industry it is now available.

33 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

I assume from that since you are promoting this crap so called science that you have never taken any medicine in your life!

Have you a point to make Sir? Are you suggesting that modern medicine is the way to go? And that alternatives, that actually get to root causes have no place in an enlightened society.

I guess you didn't read the piece. Very interesting I can assure you. I did, and although I do not agree with the doc on some of his assertions, it is still worth a read.

18 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Have you a point to make Sir? Are you suggesting that modern medicine is the way to go? And that alternatives, that actually get to root causes have no place in an enlightened society.

I guess you didn't read the piece. Very interesting I can assure you. I did, and although I do not agree with the doc on some of his assertions, it is still worth a read.

I asked you a question!

Please answer it!

The question is; "have ever taken any medicine in your life!"

Please answer yes or no!

2 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

I asked you a question!

Please answer it!

The question is; "have ever taken any medicine in your life!"

Please answer yes or no!

Yes! I take eye drops.

And the very occasional paroteatamole. Usually after Mrs Mump has whacked me with her disclipine rod.

Much prefer nature's bountiful larder.

I always enjoyed Chris Rock’s take on it

Edited August 14Aug 14 by Airalee

12 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

I assume from that since you are promoting this crap so called science that you have never taken any medicine in your life!

You are partially right.

I admit > in trauma cases, I might take an occasional pill. But indeed I never take any pills or injections for treatment of chronic conditions (which I am lucky to be spared of anyway).

Pharmacists peddling Big Pharma filth and allopathic doctors prescribing that toxic crap would be paupers, if more people would understand that by design 'conventional medicine doesn't cure' and actually undermines your natural-given health.

And of course I also shun clinics and hospitals, and never take any 'health check-ups'. And that stance has served me very well as in my 70 years I only needed 4 short hospital treatments for acute trauma to get me up and running again.

The problem is always the same. People do not follow good nutrition and exercise programs all their lives, and then need to resort to taking medicines to halt some diseases before they finish them off, take certain medicines to stop further progress of them, and keep taking them because they have gotten a chronic condition from that lifestyle choice that needs to be kept in check so it doesn't progress further. This isn't about genetic defects, which are something a person inherits but what they actually brought on themselves.

Medicines are necessary and always will be because junk food is loved by millions, and the parents who give their children a lot of it either don't care about their children's health, or aren't up to speed on what healthy eating means.

The fact that vaccinations are needed has been proven over the years, and no amount of conspiracy theories will negate that, as these things exist.

The longest living people on average come from the Blue Zones, who eat healthy, keep moving, are sociable and take the required vaccinations. That some do most everything wrong and live over 100 shows genetics helps, as well as those who seem to do everything right and pass at 40.

Medicines won't cure you, but they'll help those with chronic conditions stay alive, either as long as they take them, or if they change their lifestyle and adopt healthier choices, so they can be weaned off the meds and the body's natural resources helps them also.

43 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

The problem is always the same. People do not follow good nutrition and exercise programs all their lives, and then need to resort to taking medicines to halt some diseases before they finish them off, take certain medicines to stop further progress of them, and keep taking them because they have gotten a chronic condition from that lifestyle choice that needs to be kept in check so it doesn't progress further. This isn't about genetic defects, which are something a person inherits but what they actually brought on themselves.

Medicines are necessary and always will be because junk food is loved by millions, and the parents who give their children a lot of it either don't care about their children's health, or aren't up to speed on what healthy eating means.

The fact that vaccinations are needed has been proven over the years, and no amount of conspiracy theories will negate that, as these things exist.

The longest living people on average come from the Blue Zones, who eat healthy, keep moving, are sociable and take the required vaccinations. That some do most everything wrong and live over 100 shows genetics helps, as well as those who seem to do everything right and pass at 40.

Medicines won't cure you, but they'll help those with chronic conditions stay alive, either as long as they take them, or if they change their lifestyle and adopt healthier choices, so they can be weaned off the meds and the body's natural resources helps them also.

It is correct that many diseases appear because of wrong lifestyle. But even people with a good lifestyle and exercise can get sick and die from it. Diseases are known since

the stone age, people died much younger than they do at present.

2 minutes ago, msbkk said:

It is correct that many diseases appear because of wrong lifestyle. But even people with a good lifestyle and exercise can get sick and die from it. Diseases are known since

the stone age, people died much younger than they do at present.

Sure have. Some think they only need a good diet and exercise but there are a lot of factors that go into living long, and genetics and good luck are involved, as this isn't near a perfect place. People live and die all around the world, and only those Blue Zone places have an above average life expectancy, and they try to do whatever they can that's good for a body. You can't escape everything the earth has.

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Sure have. Some think they only need a good diet and exercise but there are a lot of factors that go into living long, and genetics and good luck are involved, as this isn't near a perfect place. People live and die all around the world, and only those Blue Zone places have an above average life expectancy, and they try to do whatever they can that's good for a body. You can't escape everything the earth has.

People live in different areas where living to over 120 is often the case. In fact being sexually active, for both men and women over 100, is often the norm.

These people all adhere to the long-life health principles; as laid out in earlier topics on AN.

6 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

People live in different areas where living to over 120 is often the case. In fact being sexually active, for both men and women over 100, is often the norm.

These people all adhere to the long-life health principles; as laid out in earlier topics on AN.

Seriously 120+ ... I don't think so. Getting pass 100 is a stretch and most look about to keel over.

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24 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Seriously 120+ ... I don't think so. Getting pass 100 is a stretch and most look about to keel over.

And if you look at expats in Thailand, they start falling off the chart at 60íes even in their 50íes. Not met one above 83 yet.

31 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Seriously 120+ ... I don't think so. Getting pass 100 is a stretch and most look about to keel over.

I kid you not. Oldest recorded recently was a guy of 154.

There was a big feature on this some years ago. I did a special topic on it last year. Can find it on AN. If you want, I'll post a link.

10 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I kid you not. Oldest recorded recently was a guy of 154.

There was a big feature on this some years ago. I did a special topic on it last year. Can find it on AN. If you want, I'll post a link.

Claimed to be 154 is not the same as verified. The oldest verified human was Jeanne Calment at 122. Post the link, I would like to see what they based 154 on.

17 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Claimed to be 154 is not the same as verified. The oldest verified human was Jeanne Calment at 122. Post the link, I would like to see what they based 154 on.

You might be looking in the wrong direction on this Sir.

39 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

You might be looking in the wrong direction on this Sir.

I know some experience alternative realities than me, so your answer is acceptable within those terms.

13 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I know some experience alternative realities than me, so your answer is acceptable within those terms.

Just quoting National Geographic. They are usually spot on.

I've been trying to get the most sought after hard copy for years.

@Red Phoenix ... medicine won't cure YOU!

Nice of you to organize this sock puppet seance...

3 hours ago, Hummin said:

Claimed to be 154 is not the same as verified.

Exactly and that goes both ways. Claiming not to be 154 is not the same as verified.

2 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Just quoting National Geographic. They are usually spot on.

I've been trying to get the most sought after hard copy for years.

I got one even older 😉

https://gerontology.fandom.com/wiki/Henry_Jenkins

6 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

Exactly and that goes both ways. Claiming not to be 154 is not the same as verified.

That is a false equivalence if you ask me.

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

That is a false equivalence if you ask me.

The people that this National Geographic article refers to don't eat processed foods, take no chemical medication, do not lead sedentary lifestyles and are in tune with sunrise/sunset cycles… and they don't have birth or death certificates, therefore there is no formal evidence of how old they actually are.

No false equivalence, just pointing out that your take is based on a single paradigm. Stiddle rightfully points out that it is not the only paradigm existing on the planet.

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30 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

The people that this National Geographic article refers to don't eat processed foods, take no chemical medication, do not lead sedentary lifestyles and are in tune with sunrise/sunset cycles… and they don't have birth or death certificates, therefore there is no formal evidence of how old they actually are.

No false equivalence, just pointing out that your take is based on a single paradigm. Stiddle rightfully points out that it is not the only paradigm existing on the planet.

No matter what we like to think, there is still a lack of evidence.

National Geographic was never some final scientific authority of truth back then either. They reported fascinating stories and claims, but…

1 hour ago, rattlesnake said:

are in tune with sunrise/sunset cycles

Indeed, the sun rises and sets…

"In a very real sense, we do not own language, but language owns us."
— Attributed to Theodore Roszak

50 minutes ago, Hummin said:

No matter what we like to think, there is still a lack of evidence.

National Geographic was never some final scientific authority of truth back then either. They reported fascinating stories and claims, but…

Just delved a little into it, and found this. Seems it was a hoax.

Along with two similar mountain regions in the Soviet Caucasus and Pakistani Kashmir, Vilcabamba was believed to be populated by a large number of remarkably old inhabitants. A 1971 census listed 11.4% of the villagers in the over-60 category (compared with 4.5% elsewhere in rural Ecuador) and reported that nine of the 819 residents were 100 or older.

Not so, it turns out. At a National Institutes of Health workshop in Bethesda, Md., Alexander Leaf, Harvard professor of clinical medicine, whose 1973 National Geographic article and 1975 book Youth in Old Age did much to advance the legend of Vilcabamba’s oldsters, ruefully said that it was apparently all a hoax. Vilcabamba (“Sacred Valley” in the Inca tongue), it now appears, has no more senior citizens per capita than other Andean towns. In fact, the revelations of such gerontological high jinks are remarkably similar to earlier reports from Soviet scientists that some of their old folks may not be as ancient as they claim.

Leaf explained that his suspicions were aroused when a man who had given his age as 121 when he interviewed him in 1970 claimed to be 132 only four years later. Leafs doubts were subsequently confirmed by two more scientists. Studying baptismal and other records, University of Wisconsin Medical Physicist Richard Mazess and University of Massachusetts Anthropologist Sylvia Forman concluded that some of the local Methuselahs had lied about their ages and that previous researchers were all too eager to accept their claims. In fact, say Mazess and Forman, there is not a centenarian in the lot—the oldest villager is 96.

The Vilcabambans exaggerated their ages, Leaf believes, in hopes that the fountain-of-youth publicity would bring a flood of tourist dollars.

https://time.com/archive/6849788/science-high-hoax/