If the lady's house in France was indeed attacked, that is definitely horrible and the arsonists should be tracked down and prosecuted.

But where is the evidence that is was an attack rather than a random fire that was a coincidence in who owned the house?

Let's not be idiots and jump to any early conclusions either way.

Just now, Somjot said:

People love to brag that Israel is "the only true democracy in the Middle East."

Great. Let’s celebrate that! But that also means Bibi Netanyahu didn't just spawn out of nowhere—he keeps winning elections. So, if the government represents the will of the majority, then the Israeli electorate is directly responsible for the land theft in the West Bank and the mass murder in Gaza.

And since almost every Israeli happily or unhappily joins the IDF, everyone is actively participating. So please, stop using the "democracy" label as a badge of honor. In this case, it’s just proof of collective moral bankruptcy.

Meanwhile, let's look at the favorite excuse for Gaza: "But they voted for Hamas!"

Sure, twenty years ago. Today, the median age in Gaza is around 18. Do the math. The vast majority of people currently trying to survive there were either toddlers or not even a thought in their parents' minds in 2006.

Telling yourself that the children dodging bombs today voted for Hamas or the October 7 attacks isn't just factually wrong—it's a masterclass in self-delusion.

If the low-IQ people who live in Gaza tried to live in peace with Israel, they would have a better life. There are two sides to an equation, and the Palestinians cannot look at their actions and stay to themselves; this is not working. 

17 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Palestine supporters :

We will never lose, all the babies born in Gaza will grow up hating Israel and attacking Israel and they will join Hamas and Hezbollah to get revenge , we will keep attacking until we win .

Me , "OK then , All Palestinian children will grow up to be terrorists"

Palestine supporters :What a terrible thing to say, you re so horrible , how can you say that about those poor little kids

Me " Errrrm , it was you that told me "

Oh dear, now he's talking to himself.

It seems he's slowly realizing that those criticizing Israel and its atrocities are actually decent people with factual arguments.

So, to win the debate, he has to invent a fictional Palestinian supporter.

What is your definition of a terrorist anyway? Let me guess:

"Anyone who refuses to comply, and might even resist, while Israel kills their people and steals their land."

12 minutes ago, Somjot said:

What is your definition of a terrorist anyway?

Gaza.

4 minutes ago, Somjot said:

Here you go:

Thaiger ข่าวประเทศไทย

ปาระเบิดขวดบึ้มบ้านแม่เจ้าของ Samui Exotic Park ในฝรั่งเศ...

บ้านครอบครัวเจ้าของ Samui Exotic Park ในฝรั่งเศสถูกปาระเบิดขวด ไฟไหม้รถลามเข้าสวนและโรงรถ เจ้าตัวโยงปมแบนชาวอิสราเอล ตำรวจยังสอบแรงจูงใจ

https://www.leprogres.fr/faits-divers-justice/2026/08/19/des-cocktails-molotov-jetes-contre-une-habitation-a-villeurbanne-l-affaire-trouverait-son-origine-en-thailande

https://www.lyoncapitale.fr/actualite/villeurbanne-une-voiture-incendiee-aux-cocktails-molotov-dans-une-affaire-dantisemitisme-en-thailande#google_vignette

Nothing screams "peak civilizational honor and emotional stability" quite like chucking a Molotov cocktail at an elderly woman’s garage in suburban France, all because her adult son wouldn't let someone pet a lemur in Thailand.

It is truly a masterclass in proportional, highly logical conflict resolution.

Clearly, the only sane and measured response to a standard business dispute on a tropical island is to launch a tactical arson campaign against a retirement-age mother in Lyon.

The sheer level of coordination required to confuse a zoo ticket booth in Thailand with a residential French driveway really highlights a dazzling, collective triumph of the human intellect.

Let me guess your reaction, now that it is clear those you worship indeed were the perpetrators:

It's used as a racist Jew hating cudgel.

Your sleaze is a prime example.

Stop with your sleazy straw man lies.

You're obviously obsessed ONLY with Israel, ONLY with Jews.

Straw man garbage troll bait

More obnoxious disingenuous straw man garbage.

I condemn thrim

49 minutes ago, Somjot said:

Here you go:

Thaiger ข่าวประเทศไทย

ปาระเบิดขวดบึ้มบ้านแม่เจ้าของ Samui Exotic Park ในฝรั่งเศ...

บ้านครอบครัวเจ้าของ Samui Exotic Park ในฝรั่งเศสถูกปาระเบิดขวด ไฟไหม้รถลามเข้าสวนและโรงรถ เจ้าตัวโยงปมแบนชาวอิสราเอล ตำรวจยังสอบแรงจูงใจ

https://www.leprogres.fr/faits-divers-justice/2026/08/19/des-cocktails-molotov-jetes-contre-une-habitation-a-villeurbanne-l-affaire-trouverait-son-origine-en-thailande

https://www.lyoncapitale.fr/actualite/villeurbanne-une-voiture-incendiee-aux-cocktails-molotov-dans-une-affaire-dantisemitisme-en-thailande#google_vignette

Nothing screams "peak civilizational honor and emotional stability" quite like chucking a Molotov cocktail at an elderly woman’s garage in suburban France, all because her adult son wouldn't let someone pet a lemur in Thailand.

It is truly a masterclass in proportional, highly logical conflict resolution.

Clearly, the only sane and measured response to a standard business dispute on a tropical island is to launch a tactical arson campaign against a retirement-age mother in Lyon.

The sheer level of coordination required to confuse a zoo ticket booth in Thailand with a residential French driveway really highlights a dazzling, collective triumph of the human intellect.

Let me guess your reaction, now that it is clear those you worship indeed were the perpetrators:

It's used as a racist Jew hating cudgel.

Your sleaze is a prime example.

Stop with your sleazy straw man lies.

You're obviously obsessed ONLY with Israel, ONLY with Jews.

Straw man garbage troll bait

More obnoxious disingenuous straw man garbage.

That's horrible.

So are you.

I strongly condemn both.

19 minutes ago, Somjot said:

And since almost every Israeli happily or unhappily joins the IDF, everyone is actively participating.

No, "almost every" Israeli does not join the IDF.

A third of Israeli youth do not enlist in IDF

New data shows that 32.9% do not enlist at all and another 15% do not complete their military service.

...

With an average of 15% dropping out during their service, nearly half of men (47.9%) do not complete their military service.

The disturbing trend is even more severe for women, with 44.3% being exempt from their military service.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/half-of-israeli-youth-do-not-enlist-in-idf-614604

The report dates from 2020, but the situation is the same today: only about half of all Israeli men complete military service.

The untrue notion that all Israelis serve in the IDF has been used by supporters of Palestinians to justify terrorist attacks on civilians, including the Oct. 7 attacks, and the killing of Israeli children. Basically they claim Israel has no civilians and children grow up to be IDF soldiers.

1 hour ago, TedG said:

If the low-IQ people who live in Gaza tried to live in peace with Israel, they would have a better life. There are two sides to an equation, and the Palestinians cannot look at their actions and stay to themselves; this is not working. 

First of all, there is no scientific basis or evidence supporting the idea that any national, ethnic, or demographic group, including Palestinians, is inherently less intelligent than another. Human intelligence and cognitive potential are distributed broadly across all populations globally.

Variations in standardized testing scores or academic metrics between different global regions are driven by environmental factors rather than innate ability. These include access to quality schooling, economic stability, nutrition, health infrastructure, and political stability.

"trying to live in peace with Israel"—what a beautifully poetic concept!

Because nothing says "let’s be peaceful neighbors" quite like Israel doing absolutely everything in its power since 1948 to ensure a Palestinian state remains a fictional concept.

Let’s look at Gaza: decades under military occupation, followed by a promotion to an "open-air prison" where Israel graciously controls every single exit by land, air, and sea.

Truly, a textbook definition of peaceful coexistence! You can't just oppress an entire population, strip away their future, and then act shocked—pointing fingers like a disappointed schoolteacher—when human nature kicks in and they actually dare to resist. "Oh look, they just don't want peace!"

Right, because who wouldn't love living in a cage?

And speaking of intelligence, I highly doubt Palestinians are any less smart than anyone else. In fact, they are vastly superior in one specific discipline: survival.

What they have endured over the last century would have completely broken any other society, yet they are still there.

When you look at the comical asymmetry—what the Palestinians have to defend themselves versus the endless mountain of advanced weapons and billions in cash funneled into Israel—it is beyond impressive that they’ve kept both their existence and their spirit alive.

Meanwhile, on the other side, some Israelis apparently experience a total existential meltdown if they are denied entry to a zoo. They feel so remarkably entitled that their logical response is to attack the zoo owner's mother with a cowardly Molotov cocktail. Truly, a masterclass in disproportionate outrage.

5 minutes ago, Somjot said:

First of all, there is no scientific basis or evidence supporting the idea that any national, ethnic, or demographic group, including Palestinians, is inherently less intelligent than another. Human intelligence and cognitive potential are distributed broadly across all populations globally.

Variations in standardized testing scores or academic metrics between different global regions are driven by environmental factors rather than innate ability. These include access to quality schooling, economic stability, nutrition, health infrastructure, and political stability.

"trying to live in peace with Israel"—what a beautifully poetic concept!

Because nothing says "let’s be peaceful neighbors" quite like Israel doing absolutely everything in its power since 1948 to ensure a Palestinian state remains a fictional concept.

Let’s look at Gaza: decades under military occupation, followed by a promotion to an "open-air prison" where Israel graciously controls every single exit by land, air, and sea.

Truly, a textbook definition of peaceful coexistence! You can't just oppress an entire population, strip away their future, and then act shocked—pointing fingers like a disappointed schoolteacher—when human nature kicks in and they actually dare to resist. "Oh look, they just don't want peace!"

Right, because who wouldn't love living in a cage?

And speaking of intelligence, I highly doubt Palestinians are any less smart than anyone else. In fact, they are vastly superior in one specific discipline: survival.

What they have endured over the last century would have completely broken any other society, yet they are still there.

When you look at the comical asymmetry—what the Palestinians have to defend themselves versus the endless mountain of advanced weapons and billions in cash funneled into Israel—it is beyond impressive that they’ve kept both their existence and their spirit alive.

Meanwhile, on the other side, some Israelis apparently experience a total existential meltdown if they are denied entry to a zoo. They feel so remarkably entitled that their logical response is to attack the zoo owner's mother with a cowardly Molotov cocktail. Truly, a masterclass in disproportionate outrage.

The Coloured Progressive Matrices (CPM) was standardized in Palestine in 2011 on a sample of 257 children aged 6.0 to 11.5 years, tested individually. The sample obtained a British IQ of 85.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289614001093

1 hour ago, Somjot said:

What is your definition of a terrorist anyway? Let me guess:

1 hour ago, TedG said:

Gaza.

And you call THEM low IQ?

Has anyone found any press confirmation of the report of the fire in park owner's home in France? I have searched Thai, international and French media but found nothing. The only report I can find is Thaiger, which is based on photos on the female owner's Facebook page. Is there any report of the fire beyond that? That's not exactly the most credible source.

Just now, Somjot said:

And you call THEM low IQ?

Yes, I did.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289614001093

Highlights

• •

  The Coloured Progressive Matrices (CPM) was standardized in Palestine in 2011 on a sample of 257 children.

• •

  The sample aged 6.0 to 11.5 years, tested individually.

• •

  The sample obtained a British IQ of 85

7 minutes ago, TedG said:

The Coloured Progressive Matrices (CPM) was standardized in Palestine in 2011 on a sample of 257 children aged 6.0 to 11.5 years, tested individually. The sample obtained a British IQ of 85.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289614001093

Wow, you cracked the code. Let's take a Western-designed test, hand it to children living in an active conflict zone with zero resources, and then act shocked when they don't score like Harvard graduates. Truly, a masterpiece of flawless logic.

It turns out that living under a decade-long military blockade, enduring constant bombings, and having your school blown up doesn't actually produce optimal test-taking conditions. Who would have guessed that dodging airstrikes ruins your focus on a standardized test? What a shocking scientific breakthrough

And next, let's measure how fast people can run while they are literally wearing ankle weights and being chased by a bear, and then use that data to conclude they are just 'naturally slow.' Groundbreaking science.

It seems to me the pro-Palestinian press, at least Al Jazeera and the Arab and Turkish news groups, would be all over the story of the fire as the owners say they suspect Israelis are responsible. But nothing I can find? Does anyone else have more luck or skill in searching?

EDIT IN: Thank you @Somjot for the links to the French stories. I am checking them out, but they also seem to be based on the Facebook photos, not independent confirmation with French authorities. I fully acknowledge I could be wrong.

Edited August 20Aug 20 by Evil Penevil

2 minutes ago, Somjot said:

Wow, you cracked the code. Let's take a Western-designed test, hand it to children living in an active conflict zone with zero resources, and then act shocked when they don't score like Harvard graduates. Truly, a masterpiece of flawless logic.

It turns out that living under a decade-long military blockade, enduring constant bombings, and having your school blown up doesn't actually produce optimal test-taking conditions. Who would have guessed that dodging airstrikes ruins your focus on a standardized test? What a shocking scientific breakthrough

And next, let's measure how fast people can run while they are literally wearing ankle weights and being chased by a bear, and then use that data to conclude they are just 'naturally slow.' Groundbreaking science.

You are putting way too much effort into defending these low-IQ people. The fact is that what they are doing is not working. If they were smart people, they would try being peaceful for a while.

11 minutes ago, TedG said:

Yes, I did.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289614001093

Highlights

• •

  The Coloured Progressive Matrices (CPM) was standardized in Palestine in 2011 on a sample of 257 children.

• •

  The sample aged 6.0 to 11.5 years, tested individually.

• •

  The sample obtained a British IQ of 85

I have seen other tests showing them more intelligent than many Western countries.

However you may want to be careful pointing out the low IQ of people while they are genocided, as it sounds like some kind of justification.

Happened before in history.

German scientists could prove from the shape of the skull that Jewish people are less intelligent, less worthy, or whatever stupid crap they were trying to prove.

You shouldn't follow in their steps.

2 minutes ago, Somjot said:

have seen other tests showing them more intelligent than many Western countries.

Please provide a source.

.

Done.

4 minutes ago, Somjot said:

However you may want to be careful pointing out the low IQ of people while they are genocided, as it sounds like some kind of justification.

Happened before in history.

German scientists could prove from the shape of the skull that Jewish people are less intelligent, less worthy, or whatever stupid crap they were trying to prove.

There is not a genocide happening in Gaza. Next.

5 minutes ago, TedG said:

You are putting way too much effort into defending these low-IQ people. The fact is that what they are doing is not working. If they were smart people, they would try being peaceful for a while.

Calling an entire population 'low-IQ' to dismiss their suffering is disgusting and wrong.

Dehumanizing an entire group and deciding that certain people are not worth defending is the exact same dangerous, hateful mindset that the Nazis used.

Human beings are not subhuman just because you refuse to understand their pain

Just now, Somjot said:

Calling an entire population 'low-IQ' to dismiss their suffering is disgusting and wrong.

Dehumanizing an entire group and deciding that certain people are not worth defending is the exact same dangerous, hateful mindset that the Nazis used.

Human beings are not subhuman just because you refuse to understand their pain

They have a low IQ; deal with it. And your Reductio ad Hitlerum does not affect me. 

7 minutes ago, TedG said:

There is not a genocide happening in Gaza. Next.

OK, let's call it mass murder of a population with two third women and children, mass destruction of practically every building, land grabbing, raping detainees and training dogs to do it, intentionally targeting children by snipers, intentionally murdering innocent civilians with numbers much higher than 70,000 so we can all feel better about it.

3 minutes ago, Somjot said:

OK, let's call it mass murder of a population with two third women and children, mass destruction of practically every building, land grabbing, raping detainees and training dogs to do it, intentionally targeting children by snipers, intentionally murdering innocent civilians with numbers much higher than 70,000 so we can all feel better about it.

The best solution to Gaza would be a bulldozer from the river to the sea, starting at the Gaza border.

10 minutes ago, TedG said:

They have a low IQ; deal with it. And your Reductio ad Hitlerum does not affect me. 

That test of yours has been debunked a long time ago

A study on Palestinian children in Gaza published on ResearchGate showed that when children were tested individually, they scored a normal average of 85.

But when administered the exact same test in large, stressful group settings, the average scores dropped massively. Researchers noted that testing environments, rather than actual mental capability, skewed the numbers.

However, mainstream scientific organizations—including the American Psychological Association (APA)—completely discredited these specific numbers and rankings due to severe flaws:

Modern Testing Platforms (2025–2026 Data)

On large-scale international cognitive testing platforms, Palestine scores squarely within normal, globally competitive ranges.

• BRGHT Platform Data: According to recent data analyzing over 1.5 million test-takers globally on BRGHT IQ Test, the average cognitive score for individuals in Palestine is 102.89. This places Palestine at rank #71 globally, performing on par with or ahead of many developed nations.

• World Population Review: In broader aggregator indexes published by the World Population Review, Palestine’s estimated average sits around 92.94, putting it right alongside many other developing countries and showing solid foundational cognitive performance across the board.

Deal with it.

11 minutes ago, TedG said:

The best solution to Gaza would be a bulldozer from the river to the sea, starting at the Gaza border.

We can agree on this point: bulldoze everything between the river and the sea, which includes Israel, stop the funding, stop sending weapons, and let those entitled Israelis and foolish Palestinians deal with each other.

The toll this foolhardy endeavor of creating a Jewish country in the middle of Muslim territory has taken from the world, and from the people in the area, does not justify it.

78 years of war and massacres, Jews the most hated people on the planet. How much longer do they need to realize, it´s not working.

14 minutes ago, Somjot said:

We can agree on this point: bulldoze everything between the river and the sea, which includes Israel, stop the funding, stop sending weapons, and let those entitled Israelis and foolish Palestinians deal with each other.

This won't end well for the Palestinians, because they are stupid people. They are beyond help.

30 minutes ago, TedG said:

The best solution to Gaza would be a bulldozer from the river to the sea, starting at the Gaza border.

A massive dirty bomb would be great.

Then no one can have it.

Job done.

The two French Web sites with the stories about the fire at the zoo owner's home in France can be automatically translated. One French story is a pick-up of the other. They are different to the Thaiger report in one aspect: the French stories say a car was fire bombed and the flames spread to a garden and garage. Oddly, neither story said who owned the car.

This could explain the reason behind the slight coverage of the story. An attack on a parked car is less serious than an attack on an inhabited house.

Thanks again to @Somjot for the links.

Villeurbanne: A car was set on fire with Molotov cocktails in an anti-Semitism case in Thailand

An act of arson occurred on Wednesday morning in the Saint-Jean neighborhood of Villeurbanne. Two Molotov cocktails were found at the scene, one of which was intact.

It was around 5:00 a.m. on Wednesday, August 19, when a car was set ablaze in the northern part of the Saint-Jean neighborhood in Villeurbanne. A Molotov cocktail was reportedly thrown at the vehicle, sparking a major fire.

...

Law enforcement officers arrived at the location to conduct an initial investigation.

https://www.lyoncapitale.fr/actualite/villeurbanne-une-voiture-incendiee-aux-cocktails-molotov-dans-une-affaire-dantisemitisme-en-thailande#google_vignette

The other Web site has a rather chilling Instagram message from the male zoo owner.

"'You’ve signed your own death warrants. Not only is my family safe, but […] we’ll see who’s left standing in Thailand,' the park manager reacted—issuing a barely veiled death threat—on Instagram, where he also posted a video of the incident."

https://www.leprogres.fr/faits-divers-justice/2026/08/19/des-cocktails-molotov-jetes-contre-une-habitation-a-villeurbanne-l-affaire-trouverait-son-origine-en-thailande

That guy has a lot of confidence if he feels he can take on IDF veterans, much less the Mossad. 🤣🤣🤣 He may get himself in trouble with Thai authorities, though.

21 hours ago, Somjot said:

Oh, my mistake! I completely forgot that when the UN draws a line on a map, it’s a secular, legally binding document, but when bulldozers clear a neighborhood in the West Bank, it’s just "strategic depth."

It is incredibly comforting to know that the Israeli government has never used the Bible as a real estate brochure.

Your sarcasm is misplaced. You are using it to hide your tactic of constantly moving the goal posts. Your reply above doesn't even make sense, so I won't try to answer.

x

21 hours ago, Somjot said:

Basic Law: Israel as the Nation-State of the Jewish People explicitly calls the land the "historical homeland"—because nothing says "purely secular UN mandate" like invoking ancient tribal history in your constitutional laws.

The current coalition guidelines literally start with: "The Jewish people have an exclusive and inalienable right to all areas of the Land of Israel." I’m sure that "exclusive right" is based on a secular municipal zoning permit and definitely not a religious covenant, right?

Israel is the historical homeland of the world's Jews. However, the Israeli government's claims on the area were based on international action. The Balfour Declaration, the League of Nations' mandate and the U.N. partition plan were all steps towards solving the problems of the world's Jews by granting them a homeland. It was a practical approach to a longstanding social problem. It wasn't primarily driven by the belief in a promise by God.

The current government believes Jews have the exclusive right to Israel and it doesn't accept the creation of a Palestinian state on territory currently controlled by Israel. Some of the coalition political leaders take the Torah literally, but overall, the Netanyahu government bases its opposition to a Palestinian state on security concerns, not verses from the Torah.

21 hours ago, Somjot said:

Government-funded settlement roadmaps refer to the West Bank exclusively as "Judea and Samaria." Because using ancient biblical names for modern military zones is just peak secular efficiency.

Again, the historical Jewish name for that area is "Judea and Samaria." The name "West Bank" was given to the area by the Jordanian government when it annexed the territory in 1950. According to Google AI, Judea and Samaria "is the official administrative name used by the Israeli government and military. In Hebrew, it is called Yehuda ve-Shomron."

This does indeed have to do with history and not using a foreign term. You are trying to make Israel a theocracy when it is a secular state with a special status for Jewish beliefs and religious practices. Israel doesn't have a state religion or church, unlike England and several other countries.

Edited August 20Aug 20 by Evil Penevil

49 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

Israel is the historical homeland of the world's Jews.

No it is not.

The Levant or Palestine or any other place on this planet is the homeland of the people who have been living there uninterrupted.

DNA tests have proven that repeatedly. The Palestinians have the most levantine DNA simply because they have been living there for centuries if not millennia and many of them are the descendants of Jews, who converted to Christianity and later maybe to Islam just to avoid problems with the actual rulers.

49 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

However, the Israeli government's claims on the area were based on international action. The Balfour Declaration, the League of Nations' mandate and the U.N. partition plan were all steps towards solving the problems of the world's Jews by granting them a homeland. It was a practical approach to a longstanding social problem. It wasn't primarily driven by the belief in a promise by God.

The current government believes Jews have the exclusive right to Israel and it doesn't accept the creation of a Palestinian state on territory currently controlled by Israel. Some of the coalition political leaders take the Torah literally, but overall, the Netanyahu government bases its opposition to a Palestinian state on security concerns, not verses from the Torah.

Again, the historical Jewish name for that area is "Judea and Samaria." The name "West Bank" was given to the area by the Jordanian government when it annexed the territory in 1950. According to Google AI, Judea and Samaria "is the official administrative name used by the Israeli government and military. In Hebrew, it is called Yehuda ve-Shomron."

The Balfour declaration is not valid as a British king has no right to decide over the land of other people but let´s for the sake of the argument believe for a second that it is valid, Jews somehow forgot or intentionally ignore the following part of it:

“It being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of the existing non Jewish communities in Palestine.”

If you want to base the claim on the UN partition plan, again it's understandable that the people living there for centuries did not accept it especially when they had no say and no voting right in the UN and the decision was made over their heads.

A logic that is still applied in present times like the US sanctioning ICC judges and arguing that countries which are not a member of the ICC cannot be judged by them.

So how could the UN decide about a country or area which was not a member of the UN?

Double standard.

Not to mention all the UN resolutions in the following years which Israel didn't care about. 

It doesn't matter how some area was called 3000 years ago and to whom it belonged at that time.

If ancient possession could be used as a base for present claims you should go back to Egypt and be their slaves. Do you not understand how stupid that sounds?

49 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

This does indeed have to do with history and not using a foreign term. You are trying to make Israel a theocracy when it is a secular state with a special status for Jewish beliefs and religious practices. Israel doesn't have a state religion or church, unlike England and several other countries.

Israel is definitely not a theocracy which is a kind of country run by religious leaders with the legal system based on divine law and that Israel is clearly not following many of the 10 commandments can be seen every day in social media.

Israel is a terror state with the terrorist army, who forcefully steals land, kills the owners Or puts them or puts them in their detention centers where they are raped and tortured, who intentionally murders civilians and children using them for target practice with a government that openly discusses the right to rape or the recent bon mot of Ben-Gvir calling for the killing of 30 to 40 Palestinians and “go beyond those who pose a danger” and adding “There are people there who are not worthy of life. They shouldn’t live. They’re not even people.”

But the most unbelievable and baffling part of the whole thing is that despite all this Israel still claims to be the victim.

Oh, and complains about the rise of anti-Semitism.

I do not envy you, I've always had the impression that you are a not only highly educated but also honorable with a moral code based on humanism, equality, honesty, fairness and integrity but now life put you in a position where you have to defend a country you feel 100% loyal to despite seeing it´s wrongdoings almost everyday.

And you always keep your calm, something I sometimes fail to do when confronted with statements that totally lack logic that even a 3 year old would shake it´s head.

 

 The reason why I speak up is not antisemitism, a stupid accusation by the way as I will always fail to understand how someone could possibly hate every Jew on the planet.

I do not hate Jews or anybody else, I hate to be lied to and that sometimes in a way where the lie is so obvious that it is more an insult than a lie.

For example: nobody in his right mind would bomb all the buildings where the hostages he is supposed to save might be held captive in. That's just nonsense.

 

I guess we both are fighting windmills like once Don Quichotte or better Sisyphus who had to push that huge rock up the hill, as the truth is that too much has happened, too many losses on both sides, too many unforgivable actions, - both sides are doomed.

UPDATE

Court fines Israeli man over Koh Samui zoo threat

13 hours ago, Somjot said:

And you always keep your calm, something I sometimes fail to do when confronted with statements that totally lack logic that even a 3 year old would shake it´s head.

I learned a long time ago, when I was a teenager, that name-calling and angry outbursts aren't good tactics in any debate or discussion. They interfere with effective communication and would hinder, rather than help, me to make my point.

I would advise all pro-Israel board members to stay cool even when you come across outrageous posts. Don't reply to those posts, just report them to the Mods.

13 hours ago, Somjot said:

I do not envy you, I've always had the impression that you are a not only highly educated but also honorable with a moral code based on humanism, equality, honesty, fairness and integrity but now life put you in a position where you have to defend a country you feel 100% loyal to despite seeing it´s wrongdoings almost everyday.

Thank you for the kind words. They are much appreciated. The fact that you posted them speaks highly of your character. I feel you are motivated by concern and empathy for the plight of the Palestinian people. I can't agree with a lot of what you write, but you are not in any way an antisemite.

Unfortunately, the board does have a few hardcore antisemites, but you are definitely not one of them.

13 hours ago, Somjot said:

I guess we both are fighting windmills like once Don Quichotte or better Sisyphus who had to push that huge rock up the hill, as the truth is that too much has happened, too many losses on both sides, too many unforgivable actions, - both sides are doomed.

I feel at times I am jousting with the real dragons of antisemitism and ignorance, not just the windmills of Internet trolldom. It is indeed a Sisyphean task that never ends.