On 8/14/2026 at 5:53 PM, save the frogs said:

No one is supposed to even know or ask where you are from in the first place.

I guess once the restaurant owner hears people speaking .... then what? The restaurant owner identifies where you are from and goes up to them and asks them to leave in the middle of their meal?

Ideally, politics should not mix with tourism. But human beings are emotional and irrational creatures.

A farang asked me where I was from out of nowhere the other day. Why is he so eager to know this above all else? People are all prejudiced. You would be surprised how many Brits and Aussies hate Americans and vice versa out there.

You won't see Brit business owners banning American diners, but it doesn't mean they don't secretly hate you while they bring you your English Breakfast.

I think almost every human being has prejudices and I think that's part of human nature. Whether or not those prejudgments rise to the level of racism and exclusion is a completely different thing. I think it's perfectly acceptable to deny patronage to anyone you like, if it's a private establishment, especially if the person has been known to cause trouble in the past.

7 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Absolutely 100%, I have no problem avoiding establishments that don't want my patronage. I'm very happy to find another alternative. No offense taken whatsoever, and that's how reasonably mature men with thick skin typically react.

How many times has that happened to you ?

How many times have you been a reasonably mature man with thick skin and walked on by after an establishment didn't want your custom ?

5 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I think almost every human being has prejudices and I think that's part of human nature. Whether or not those prejudgments rise to the level of racism and exclusion is a completely different thing. I think it's perfectly acceptable to deny patronage to anyone you like, if it's a private establishment, especially if the person has been known to cause trouble in the past.

So, you fully support signs like this ?

12 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Well I was brought up as a Jew and I've been around Jews my whole life, and there are a remarkable percentage of Jews that buy into this chosen people nonsense.

I loved Jews I have many Jewish friends and and close family members but I think that it's always healthy to admit the shortcomings that some of our people have. Isn't it?

I call BS.

In my experience among Jews including weekend Jewish school, Jewish summer day camp, working for three years in a majority Jewish firm (which was hilarious as many of the Jews there could have been comedians), large family gatherings, bar mitzvahs etc I haven't experienced even one Jew even one time refer to Jews or themselves as chosen.

Instead irs become a cudgel for racist Jew haters.

Edited August 16Aug 16 by Jingthing

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

How many times has that happened to you ?

How many times have you been a reasonably mature man with thick skin and walked on by after an establishment didn't want your custom ?

Many many times. Back in the day I used to go to dance clubs in New York that would cherry pick who they wanted in the club and I was turned down often, many times when I was a single man I would get turned down by women who had no interest, and I could list other occasions too. It really doesn't matter, it's just not a big deal, they don't want you in their establishment you just simply move on.

Only snowflakes and victims would take offense to this.

3 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Many many times. Back in the day I used to go to dance clubs in New York that would cherry pick who they wanted in the club and I was turned down often, many times when I was a single man I would get turned down by women who had no interest, and I could list other occasions too. It really doesn't matter, it's just not a big deal, they don't want you in their establishment you just simply move on.

Only snowflakes and victims would take offense to this.

Not the same thing in any way.

6 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Many many times. Back in the day I used to go to dance clubs in New York that would cherry pick who they wanted in the club and I was turned down often, many times when I was a single man I would get turned down by women who had no interest, and I could list other occasions too. It really doesn't matter, it's just not a big deal, they don't want you in their establishment you just simply move on.

Only snowflakes and victims would take offense to this.

Getting refused entry to nightclubs is rather different .

Its quite common and normal for people to get refused entry to nightclubs if they don't look cool or trendy enough . Geeks aren't allowed into clubs where cool guys hang out .

We are talking about being refused entry based on your religion or Nationality .

How many times have been been refused entry to anywhere based on your Religion or Nationality ?

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

You guys are so transparent.

You hate Jews when they do have power.

You hate Jews when they don't have power.

You hate Jews when they are rich.

You hate Jews when they are poor.

You hate Jews when they assimilate too much.

You hate Jews when they do not assimilate.

You hate Jews when they are intellectual nerds.

You hate Jews when they are super fit IDF soldiers or Wonder Woman etc.

Etc. etc.

(Message to "progressive" Israel demonizing Jews --- they hate you too.)

So you are not a fan of consistency.

Got it.

10 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

So you are not a fan of consistency.

Got it.

I have no idea what your point is.

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

You guys are so transparent.

And you guys are so predictable as you try to turn every criticism against Israel’s atrocities into some kind of antisemitism.

Or maybe your lack of humanity and basic compassion prevents you from understanding the reasons why people criticize Israel, always interpreting them as purely driven by antisemitism.

Decent, open-minded, and intelligent human beings are intellectually not capable of hating all Jews.

They might dislike one Jew or a group of Jews because they have been harmed by them or they have seen them harm others, in which case the negative emotion is not caused by them being Jewish, but by their actions.

And you know that, yet you try to label every critic of Israel as dumb, ignorant, and racist, acting out of pure Jew-hate in order to delegitimize the criticism as a racist slur.

Because it’s the only defense you have.

Instead of addressing the accusations, you just ignore them and try to silence those voices who have the decency to speak up for those whose voices cannot be heard as they scream behind the thick walls of your detention and rape facilities, and for those whose voices you have silenced forever—more than 20,000 of them being innocent children.

I wrote down a few of the many accusations Israel is confronted with. You never commented on any of them and instead came up with a pathetic attempt to elicit pity for the likes of you.

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

You hate Jews when they do have power.

You hate Jews when they don't have power.

You hate Jews when they are rich.

You hate Jews when they are poor.

You hate Jews when they assimilate too much.

You hate Jews when they do not assimilate.

You hate Jews when they are intellectual nerds.

You hate Jews when they are super fit IDF soldiers or Wonder Woman etc.

Etc. etc.

So again, stop your pathetic mind gymnastics.

When you're done feeling sorry for yourself and bathing in self-pity, try to understand:

People do not hate Jews because they have power or don’t have power, or because they are rich or poor. People dislike Israel and its repeatedly elected government because:

• They destroy practically every building in a country and call it a search for terrorists.

• They use little children for target practice and call it heroism.

• They steal land and kill people who had absolutely nothing to do with October 7.

• They call themselves the "most moral" army while executing a five-year-old girl who was trapped in a car with her murdered siblings, begging for her life.

• They rape detainees, even train dogs to assault them, and openly debate the "right to rape" in their government while still claiming to be the only democracy in the Middle East

And as if that is not enough, Israel commits all these atrocities, you defend them with your mind gymnastics avoiding any healthy debate and when people are disgusted you really have the audacity to claim that this is only because you are Jewish.

Full victimhood mode!

What a joke! That is so unreal.

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

The extreme Israel policy is trying to make Israel a safe place for Jews (living in Israel).

By killing 21,000 children?

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

By killing 21,000 children?

:) Children again !!!!

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

:) Children again !!!!

Well, Israel did kill a lot of infants.

21,000.

The Arab buy in the video that is saying "bye, bye" does the sort of body check head butt sending the Israelis on their way, is he an owner? Is this not a Thai owned business?

54 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Straw man garbage.

It's your racist Jew hating rhetoric actually.

Not the same thing at all as normal criticism of Israeli government policies

You mass murder and infanticide supporters should be thankful that there are individuals like @spidermike007 .

Why? There are anti-Semites on this planet, no doubt about it. Foolish people with an IQ slightly over room temperature need this black-and-white, good-versus-bad thinking to understand the world.

Anything else would intellectually confuse them, as it is so much easier to live with prejudices than to use one’s brain and judge individuals on their behavior rather than their religion.

People like @spidermike007 put cracks into their version of the world and force them to question it.

State-driven injustice, cruelties, mass murder, and genocide have two things in common: history has never judged them positively, and they never last forever.

Once they are over, everybody looks for somebody to blame, and the question will inevitably arise whether all Israelis, or even all Jews, are evil. This is the exact same question that arose after the end of the Third Reich.

Thanks to Germans like Sophie and Hans Scholl, Claus Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Georg Elser, and so many more, Germans could later say: "Not all of us were Nazis; not all of us were evil."

And thanks to Jews like Jonathan Glazer, Mandy Patinkin, Wallace Shawn, Noam Chomsky, Gabor Maté, Norman Finkelstein, and many more like @spidermike007 , you guys will one day be able to say: "Not all of us were Zionists; not all of us were evil."

To quote Martin Niemöller:

“First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.“

In our times, they are coming for innocent Palestinians.

I am not speaking about Hamas terrorists, who deserve nothing less than to be eliminated.

I am speaking about the countless men, women, and children in Gaza who, like most of us, were not even politically active and just wanted to live in peace.

I am speaking for the people in the West Bank.

I am speaking for the people in Lebanon.

I am speaking for the people in Iran.

I am speaking for all the places Israel has attacked or caused the US to attack, and all the innocent people who were killed—all under the guise of defending its right to exist, while in truth, it was driven by a desire to expand.

19 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Well, Israel did kill a lot of infants.

21,000.

....................how come no ones ever mentioned that before :)

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

....................how come no ones ever mentioned that before :)

Just thinking of the children.

50 minutes ago, Somjot said:

You mass murder and infanticide supporters should be thankful that there are individuals like @spidermike007 .

Why? There are anti-Semites on this planet, no doubt about it. Foolish people with an IQ slightly over room temperature need this black-and-white, good-versus-bad thinking to understand the world.

Anything else would intellectually confuse them, as it is so much easier to live with prejudices than to use one’s brain and judge individuals on their behavior rather than their religion.

People like @spidermike007 put cracks into their version of the world and force them to question it.

State-driven injustice, cruelties, mass murder, and genocide have two things in common: history has never judged them positively, and they never last forever.

Once they are over, everybody looks for somebody to blame, and the question will inevitably arise whether all Israelis, or even all Jews, are evil. This is the exact same question that arose after the end of the Third Reich.

Thanks to Germans like Sophie and Hans Scholl, Claus Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Georg Elser, and so many more, Germans could later say: "Not all of us were Nazis; not all of us were evil."

And thanks to Jews like Jonathan Glazer, Mandy Patinkin, Wallace Shawn, Noam Chomsky, Gabor Maté, Norman Finkelstein, and many more like @spidermike007 , you guys will one day be able to say: "Not all of us were Zionists; not all of us were evil."

To quote Martin Niemöller:

“First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.“

In our times, they are coming for innocent Palestinians.

I am not speaking about Hamas terrorists, who deserve nothing less than to be eliminated.

I am speaking about the countless men, women, and children in Gaza who, like most of us, were not even politically active and just wanted to live in peace.

I am speaking for the people in the West Bank.

I am speaking for the people in Lebanon.

I am speaking for the people in Iran.

I am speaking for all the places Israel has attacked or caused the US to attack, and all the innocent people who were killed—all under the guise of defending its right to exist, while in truth, it was driven by a desire to expand.

You're doing a Steve Bannon flood the zone with poop in order to exhaust

That works.

1 hour ago, Somjot said:

And you guys are so predictable as you try to turn every criticism against Israel’s atrocities into some kind of antisemitism.

Or maybe your lack of humanity and basic compassion prevents you from understanding the reasons why people criticize Israel, always interpreting them as purely driven by antisemitism.

Decent, open-minded, and intelligent human beings are intellectually not capable of hating all Jews.

They might dislike one Jew or a group of Jews because they have been harmed by them or they have seen them harm others, in which case the negative emotion is not caused by them being Jewish, but by their actions.

And you know that, yet you try to label every critic of Israel as dumb, ignorant, and racist, acting out of pure Jew-hate in order to delegitimize the criticism as a racist slur.

Because it’s the only defense you have.

Instead of addressing the accusations, you just ignore them and try to silence those voices who have the decency to speak up for those whose voices cannot be heard as they scream behind the thick walls of your detention and rape facilities, and for those whose voices you have silenced forever—more than 20,000 of them being innocent children.

I wrote down a few of the many accusations Israel is confronted with. You never commented on any of them and instead came up with a pathetic attempt to elicit pity for the likes of you.

So again, stop your pathetic mind gymnastics.

When you're done feeling sorry for yourself and bathing in self-pity, try to understand:

People do not hate Jews because they have power or don’t have power, or because they are rich or poor. People dislike Israel and its repeatedly elected government because:

• They destroy practically every building in a country and call it a search for terrorists.

• They use little children for target practice and call it heroism.

• They steal land and kill people who had absolutely nothing to do with October 7.

• They call themselves the "most moral" army while executing a five-year-old girl who was trapped in a car with her murdered siblings, begging for her life.

• They rape detainees, even train dogs to assault them, and openly debate the "right to rape" in their government while still claiming to be the only democracy in the Middle East

And as if that is not enough, Israel commits all these atrocities, you defend them with your mind gymnastics avoiding any healthy debate and when people are disgusted you really have the audacity to claim that this is only because you are Jewish.

Full victimhood mode!

What a joke! That is so unreal.

Flooding the zone with poop.

I can't be bothered.

If you want s response focus on a point and be coherent

On 8/14/2026 at 8:02 PM, spidermike007 said:

This is a concept known as blowback, they belong to a nationality that's extremely unpopular these days and there are ramifications.

Does blowback apply to Palestinians as well? Would it have been reasonable for business owners to deny service to Palestinians outside Palestine because of the Oct. 7 attacks on Israel?

And how about the 9/11 attacks? Should the 3.5 million Arab Muslims in the U.S. have be subjected to blowback because of the 19 hijackers?

Making innocent people suffer for the actions of others is always wrong, whether you call it blowback or antisemitism.

21 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

Does blowback apply to Palestinians as well? Would it have been reasonable for business owners to deny service to Palestinians outside Palestine because of the Oct. 7 attacks on Israel?

People might slightly feel differently about a single one day attack performed by terrorists on one hand side and the 1000 days annihilation of a country including mass murder and starvation of the population ordered by a repeatedly elected government and condoned by most of the citizens on the other.

21 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

And how about the 9/11 attacks? Should the 3.5 million Arab Muslims in the U.S. have be subjected to blowback because of the 19 hijackers?

Haven't they? Millions of Arab and Muslim Americans faced a severe backlash after the September 11 attacks. FBI data showed anti-Muslim hate crimes jumped dramatically, rising from 28 incidents in 2000 to 481 in 2001. Many individuals suffered verbal abuse, physical assaults, workplace discrimination, and increased government surveillance solely because of their perceived identity

And don't forget the millions of Muslims killed in the wars to follow or the sanctions interestingly in countries were the hijackers were not coming from while the countries where they actually were coming from were not only left unharmed but still seen as great business partners.

I wonder why.

21 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

Making innocent people suffer for the actions of others is always wrong, whether you call it blowback or antisemitism.

If you would have opened the YouTube channel I posted you would know that the female Thai zoo owner decided to deny Israeli citizens access to her place mostly because of bad experiences in the last 2 years, starting from refusing to pay the fee, secretly opening the exit door to let their friends in without payment, cruelty to animals and generally because of bad experiences with these people who would act rudely and later give her bad reviews on social media.

The zoo and the animals have the right to defend themselves, don´t you think?

3 hours ago, Somjot said:

you try to label every critic of Israel as dumb, ignorant, and racist, acting out of pure Jew-hate in order to delegitimize the criticism as a racist slur.

Instead of addressing the accusations, you just ignore them and try to silence

I wrote down a few of the many accusations Israel is confronted with. You never commented on any of them.

And as if that is not enough, Israel commits all these atrocities, you defend them with your mind gymnastics avoiding any healthy debate

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Flooding the zone with poop.

I can't be bothered.

If you want s response focus on a point and be coherent

Thanks for proving my points.

"Don´t ask me questions about the mass murder, my country is committing. I can´t be bothered with the atrocities Israel has committed, while I am busy denying them."

As if you would ever answer. Ok, let´s try. Respond to that:

Hind Rajab

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57 minutes ago, Somjot said:

Thanks for proving my points.

"Don´t ask me questions about the mass murder, my country is committing. I can´t be bothered with the atrocities Israel has committed, while I am busy denying them."

As if you would ever answer. Ok, let´s try. Respond to that:

Hind Rajab

My country?

Are you insane?

UPDATE

Interior Ministry steps into Samui zoo entry dispute

6 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I haven't experienced even one Jew even one time refer to Jews or themselves as chosen.

Instead irs become a cudgel for racist Jew haters.

I totally agree. The whole concept of Jews as a chosen people is based on the theological belief that Jews were selected by God for a covenant that places religious obligations on the Jews as outlined in the Torah. These obligations included keeping the Ten Commandments; rejecting other gods; male circumcision; daily prayer; not eating pork; not working on the Sabbath and over 600 other commandments that made up a kosher lifestyle.

None of this had to do with racial or ethnic superiority. Today, only 270 of the 613 commandments are considered possible to fulfill, as the other pertained to the Temple of Jerusalem or aspects of daily life in ancient Israel that no longer exist. It's only the most religious ultra-orthodox Jews who attempt to follow all 270 commandments.

Once again, Jews were "chosen" in Biblical times on the basis of religious obligation and Jews have never considered themselves chosen in any other fashion.

23 minutes ago, Georgealbert said:

UPDATE

Interior Ministry steps into Samui zoo entry dispute

That surprises me. I guess the visit to Surat Thani by the Israeli ambassador paid off big time. I imagine the zoo owner is quaking in his boots right now. At the very least, the Thai authorities will force him to admit Israeli customers.

If I were in Thailand now, I would be tempted to visit that zoo wearing an IDF T-shirt. 😄 I wonder what the owner's reaction would be? 🤣

Edited August 16Aug 16 by Evil Penevil

2 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

Does blowback apply to Palestinians as well? Would it have been reasonable for business owners to deny service to Palestinians outside Palestine because of the Oct. 7 attacks on Israel?

And how about the 9/11 attacks? Should the 3.5 million Arab Muslims in the U.S. have be subjected to blowback because of the 19 hijackers?

Making innocent people suffer for the actions of others is always wrong, whether you call it blowback or antisemitism.

Well there is suffering and then there is denial, which are not even remotely the same thing. Having to choose a secondary option for lunch is not quite the same as being subject to the horrors of the Holocaust. Everything in life is a matter of degrees.

5 hours ago, Priorexpat said:

The Arab buy in the video that is saying "bye, bye" does the sort of body check head butt sending the Israelis on their way, is he an owner? Is this not a Thai owned business?

According to a post on Facebook, the zoo is owned by a French national and his wife named Kevin and Toni! Kevin doesn't sound very French to me and Toni is not a Thai name, but who knows these days? Very little has been revealed so far about the owners of the zoo.

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

You're doing a Steve Bannon flood the zone with poop in order to exhaust

That works.

I like that, Flood the Zone with Poop would be an incredibly apt title for the presidency of Donald Trump.