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Carney Says U.S. Wants to 'Destroy' Canadian Industries

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2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Mexico would be next obviously, they have gigantic oil reserves. Also there for the taking.

Cuba has virtually nothing, invading it would be an act of charity, but sure, why not?

Wars are theft writ large. Nice to see your morality on display.

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Just now, Lacessit said:

Wars are theft writ large. Nice to see your morality on display.

It's not "theft". How do you think Australia came to be? By stealing the resources from the indigenous peoples. Same with Canada. They only have those resources because they stole them from the Amerindians. Taking those natural resources from the Canadians would merely be justice, sweet justice finally for decades of unjust enrichment by the Canadians on the back of Amerindian people. The US would again, be doing the right thing, as so often.

Alot of industries have been and will be destroyed because of the tariffs but its not because he wanted it, its because US has been the world's ATM for so long and now the president has no choice basically, to try to save the country if possible.

Unfortunate that most here take it personally

Additionally, everyone would have preferred to do business with the US than China and their mercenary business practices. But you can't have your cake and eat it to. Provide something in return instead of just pilfering from others. Im talking about you europe

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

The US would again, be doing the right thing, as so often.

After WW2 they created turmoils only, not for the best of the world.

Or did I forget something? You'll tell me.

28 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

After WW2 they created turmoils only, not for the best of the world.

Or did I forget something? You'll tell me.

The Marshel Plan and preventing Europe from being swallowed up by the USSR. 

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

After WW2 they created turmoils only, not for the best of the world.

Or did I forget something? You'll tell me.

Well, they saved South Korea, 1950-1953, thus giving us K-Drama, K-Pop and Lisa.

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

However, if the US invaded Canada and seized all of its 51 trillion USD of assets, then the US national debt could be wiped out within 48 hours. Yet another argument to invade Canada as soon as possible.

Yes, a thief would think that way.

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2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

It's not "theft". How do you think Australia came to be? By stealing the resources from the indigenous peoples. Same with Canada. They only have those resources because they stole them from the Amerindians. Taking those natural resources from the Canadians would merely be justice, sweet justice finally for decades of unjust enrichment by the Canadians on the back of Amerindian people. The US would again, be doing the right thing, as so often.

What resources were we stealing? The indigenous peoples were not mining iron ore, drilling for gas, building cities, or growing crops. They were Stone Age people.

So Americans did not steal the richest land from the Indians, and put them on reservations? You're coming the raw prawn.

5 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Yes, a thief would think that way.

Theft is a concept for private individuals. Among states, it's just an annexation. Canada would be annexed. That's all. Not theft. Just a re-ordering of the borders.

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

What resources were we stealing? The indigenous peoples were not mining iron ore, drilling for gas, building cities, or growing crops. They were Stone Age people.

So Americans did not steal the richest land from the Indians, and put them on reservations? You're coming the raw prawn.

From both a historical and modern legal standpoint, in Australia, the British Crown and early settlers took the land from Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples without consent, compensation, or a treaty. And all the natural resources contained within it, so a theft of epic proportions.

While early colonizers used British laws to justify the takeover, the High Court of Australia formally ruled in 1992 that the legal premise used to seize the continent was an outright fiction.

The displacement of Australia's Indigenous population occurred through a mix of legal maneuvers, physical violence, and systemic dispossession. Settlers cleared native bushland, fenced off vital water sources, and depleted local wildlife, destroying the ecosystems Aboriginal groups relied on for survival. Aboriginal groups fought a decades-long guerrilla resistance to protect their homelands. However, the superior firepower of British troops and local militias resulted in hundreds of recorded frontier massacres.

The High Court struck down the doctrine of terra nullius, legally acknowledging that Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples held a unique, pre-existing connection to the land that survived the arrival of the British. This ruling led directly to the Native Title Act 1993, allowing Indigenous groups to reclaim legal rights over certain crown lands. Alas, not the natural resources.

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

However, if the US invaded Canada and seized all of its 51 trillion USD of assets, then the US national debt could be wiped out within 48 hours. Yet another argument to invade Canada as soon as possible.

Please, everyone stop feeding him.

2 hours ago, harvardgrad said:

Alot of industries have been and will be destroyed because of the tariffs but its not because he wanted it, its because US has been the world's ATM for so long and now the president has no choice basically, to try to save the country if possible.

Unfortunate that most here take it personally

He has no idea how tariffs work, and neither do you.

The consumer pays the tariffs, not the exporter. And America makes very little that the world wants, especially at American prices. Try to be more competitive then people might want to buy your goods. Not sure which ones though. American cars? Absolute rubbish, outdated technology, a decade or two behind Japan and China, no thanks. American food? Lowest food standards of most civilised countries. Chlorinated chicken, antibiotic and hormone pumped beef and poultry. Absolute rubbish, no thanks. Food additives, dyes, chemicals that are banned elsewhere? Absolute rubbish, no thanks. Sweets and chocolates stuffed with high fructose corn syrup? Absolute rubbish, no thanks.

You have a trade imbalance because your goods are shonky and expensive and no one wants them. Try fixing that.

20 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

He has no idea how tariffs work, and neither do you.

The consumer pays the tariffs, not the exporter. And America makes very little that the world wants, especially at American prices. Try to be more competitive then people might want to buy your goods. Not sure which ones though. American cars? Absolute rubbish, outdated technology, a decade or two behind Japan and China, no thanks. American food? Lowest food standards of most civilised countries. Chlorinated chicken, antibiotic and hormone pumped beef and poultry. Absolute rubbish, no thanks. Food additives, dyes, chemicals that are banned elsewhere? Absolute rubbish, no thanks. Sweets and chocolates stuffed with high fructose corn syrup? Absolute rubbish, no thanks.

You have a trade imbalance because your goods are shonky and expensive and no one wants them. Try fixing that.

Vile and ignorant garbage. Everyone wants Intel microprocessors and semiconductor chips, they're in all his devices.

Nike and New Balance sneakers are heavily sought after overseas.

Steinway & Sons pianos are globally viewed as the ultimate benchmark of excellence for professional concert venues.

The review from the British Topgear on the latest Cadillac:

“There's no hiding just how good the Lyriq is to behold and drive. This is Cadillac at its unique best. The bold, new styling works in the metal and on the road. It manages to be both functional and special. This is Cadillac at its unique best again.

By focusing on luxury rather than outright on-road performance, it has created a useful, comfortable and, yes, even elegant solution to the electric SUV question. One which, powered by GM’s excellent Ultium platform and extensive network, will be a pleasure to own and drive.

Especially when it can be bought for less than a Tesla Model Y, which appears to have started to price itself out of the market, Superchargers or not. With initial Lyriq demand massively outstripping supply, it’s no surprise that it’s continued to sell like good-ole American hotcakes.

This is the face of the new electric-generation Cadillac. We like it, and apparently plenty of you already do, too."

https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/usa/cadillac/lyriq-us

He probably drives a cheap Chinese EV.

Mr. Cameroni, your trolling is offensive and boring. My next annoying read will have me blocking you.

50 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Vile and ignorant garbage. Everyone wants Intel microprocessors and semiconductor chips, they're in all his devices.

Nike and New Balance sneakers are heavily sought after overseas.

Steinway & Sons pianos are globally viewed as the ultimate benchmark of excellence for professional concert venues.

The review from the British Topgear on the latest Cadillac:

“There's no hiding just how good the Lyriq is to behold and drive. This is Cadillac at its unique best. The bold, new styling works in the metal and on the road. It manages to be both functional and special. This is Cadillac at its unique best again.

By focusing on luxury rather than outright on-road performance, it has created a useful, comfortable and, yes, even elegant solution to the electric SUV question. One which, powered by GM’s excellent Ultium platform and extensive network, will be a pleasure to own and drive.

Especially when it can be bought for less than a Tesla Model Y, which appears to have started to price itself out of the market, Superchargers or not. With initial Lyriq demand massively outstripping supply, it’s no surprise that it’s continued to sell like good-ole American hotcakes.

This is the face of the new electric-generation Cadillac. We like it, and apparently plenty of you already do, too."

https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/usa/cadillac/lyriq-us

He probably drives a cheap Chinese EV.


Aw, that's cute, he picked a single cherry! Still miles behind the Chinese cars with their 800V architecture (Cadillac only 400V) and more robust and much better engineered LFP batteries, compared to the Cadillac's NMC. And, of course, much slower charging times accordingly. It's also much heavier than equivalent Chinese rivals (without accounting for the fatties that'll be driving it).

Hey, but it wasn't awful, so well done. Any more cherries out there? Maybe you should invade China and take their technology?? You would conquer them in 48 hours and it can all be yours.

And well done on the pianos, that massive global industry, how could I have neglected that.

It obviously hurts you to hear that the US lags behind in so many industries though. You'll get over it one day.

57 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

1 minute ago, NewGuy said:

Mr. Cameroni, your trolling is offensive and boring. My next annoying read will have me blocking you.


Worst troll on here. I don't know why we entertain him. It's a sad person that gets their kicks from trolling on an internet forum.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

Vile and ignorant garbage. Everyone wants Intel microprocessors and semiconductor chips, they're in all his devices.

Nike and New Balance sneakers are heavily sought after overseas.

Steinway & Sons pianos are globally viewed as the ultimate benchmark of excellence for professional concert venues.

The review from the British Topgear on the latest Cadillac:

“There's no hiding just how good the Lyriq is to behold and drive. This is Cadillac at its unique best. The bold, new styling works in the metal and on the road. It manages to be both functional and special. This is Cadillac at its unique best again.

By focusing on luxury rather than outright on-road performance, it has created a useful, comfortable and, yes, even elegant solution to the electric SUV question. One which, powered by GM’s excellent Ultium platform and extensive network, will be a pleasure to own and drive.

Especially when it can be bought for less than a Tesla Model Y, which appears to have started to price itself out of the market, Superchargers or not. With initial Lyriq demand massively outstripping supply, it’s no surprise that it’s continued to sell like good-ole American hotcakes.

This is the face of the new electric-generation Cadillac. We like it, and apparently plenty of you already do, too."

https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/usa/cadillac/lyriq-us

He probably drives a cheap Chinese EV.

Sorry bro, forgot to mention your airliners. A proud good old American company. Absolute disgrace.

https://www.netflix.com/watch/81780118?trackId=264265097&tctx=1%2C0%2C4ade3250-6c40-4770-abd4-ce390d97b666%2CeyJwYWdlSWQiOiJQU19hZjZlOWFhMC00NmM2LTQ3NDktYTJlYy1jZDhmZTJkODE0NjhfTDFfTjQiLCJzZWN0aW9uSWQiOiIxZGM2YTFjNS04NjY3LTRlNjgtODYzMS01M2M2Y2JkNDFiZTMiLCJpZHgiOi05OTl9%2CPS_af6e9aa0-46c6-4749-a2ec-cd8fe2d81468_L1_N4%2C%2C%2C%2C%2CVideo%3A81780118%2CdetailsPagePlayButton

If you don't want to open your eyes and watch the full documentary maybe just watch the trailer. You know, short little clips.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZDSYBkcH2U

Edit: but yeah, the pianos, I forgot the pianos again.

Edited by josephbloggs

2 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

He has no idea how tariffs work, and neither do you.

The consumer pays the tariffs, not the exporter. And America makes very little that the world wants, especially at American prices. Try to be more competitive then people might want to buy your goods. Not sure which ones though. American cars? Absolute rubbish, outdated technology, a decade or two behind Japan and China, no thanks. American food? Lowest food standards of most civilised countries. Chlorinated chicken, antibiotic and hormone pumped beef and poultry. Absolute rubbish, no thanks. Food additives, dyes, chemicals that are banned elsewhere? Absolute rubbish, no thanks. Sweets and chocolates stuffed with high fructose corn syrup? Absolute rubbish, no thanks.

You have a trade imbalance because your goods are shonky and expensive and no one wants them. Try fixing that.

The consumer might pay some of the tariff. First the manufacturer squeezes their suppliers; in the case of Ford, for instance, its starts squeezing the US suppliers to its Canadian assembly plants. It might start cutting back of R&D and product innovation, especially if it perceives the US becomes essentially a closed market to imported brands. This means <deleted> cars, Why make good cars if consumers will buy <deleted> cars because they are cheap. There might be some consumer price creep. Ford cost cutting ripples through the economy, Maybe it decides to use less steel, achieved by using thinner panels. Yes, the cars might rot out quicker, crumple easily in a crash, but Ford makes money from the first owner only, not the second or third owner.

Politicians need to be honest what reshoring actually means. It means a resilience first supply chain not an efficiency lead supply chain. It means government needs taking precedence over the needs of shareholders. It means a fall in dividends, because the corporate missing is no longer to improve margins or Ebitda. If profit is no longer a top priority, then inward investment declines. The world market COG is shifting.

2 hours ago, NewGuy said:

Mr. Cameroni, your trolling is offensive and boring. My next annoying read will have me blocking you.

Did that months ago.

President Donald Trump floated the idea of changing the name of Lake Ontario to “Lake America” on Tuesday amid his ongoing trade feud with Canada, a pitch that was met with collective sighs by critics who spoke to their exhaustion with the chaotic Trump administration.

In a post on his social media platform Truth Social, Trump claimed that his administration was “giving serious consideration” to the name change as he did not “expect to [be] doing much business with Ontario any longer.” The idea is similar to his executive order issued in early 2025 to rename the Gulf of Mexico to the “Gulf of America,” a move that received intense scrutiny at the time.

Regarding Trump’s latest name-change idea — one that came amid Trump imposing 50% tariffs on some Canadian goods, and Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney vowing to match said tariffs “dollar for dollar” — critics were quick to condemn it.

The Bulwark's Sam Stein quipped on X, "He's out of ideas."

Stephen Hayes, editor and CEO at The Dispatch, mocked, "It's still astonishing - ten years into the Trump era - that our president so often behaves like a 10 year-old. And that so much of our national policymaking is based on the juvenile emoting of an adult who functions like a preteen."

“We are living in the stupidest f------ times,” wrote Jason Willan, a prominent fantasy sports analyst, in a social media post on X.

Roland Ley, a former contributor for Euromaidan Press, called Trump the “greatest idiot” he had witnessed in his “lifetime.”

“Just as internationally 'Gulf of America' isn't recognised, this won't be either,” Ley wrote in a social media post on X. “Not even passed by the US Senate anyway.”

In response to Trump’s announcement, Canadian horse-racing photographer Julie Wright quipped, “Lunatic says what,” and prominent online influencer Mario Nawfal argued that Trump’s trade war was “getting silly” in a post on X to his more than 3.8 million followers.

“It would require a lot more than a President’s bad mood to change the name of a gulf or great lake!” Nawfal wrote. “Maybe a vote or something a bit more thought out.”

Trump roasted as 'greatest idiot' in a lifetime after Lake Ontario threat: 'He's out of ideas'

6 hours ago, Cameroni said:

From both a historical and modern legal standpoint, in Australia, the British Crown and early settlers took the land from Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples without consent, compensation, or a treaty. And all the natural resources contained within it, so a theft of epic proportions.

While early colonizers used British laws to justify the takeover, the High Court of Australia formally ruled in 1992 that the legal premise used to seize the continent was an outright fiction.

The displacement of Australia's Indigenous population occurred through a mix of legal maneuvers, physical violence, and systemic dispossession. Settlers cleared native bushland, fenced off vital water sources, and depleted local wildlife, destroying the ecosystems Aboriginal groups relied on for survival. Aboriginal groups fought a decades-long guerrilla resistance to protect their homelands. However, the superior firepower of British troops and local militias resulted in hundreds of recorded frontier massacres.

The High Court struck down the doctrine of terra nullius, legally acknowledging that Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples held a unique, pre-existing connection to the land that survived the arrival of the British. This ruling led directly to the Native Title Act 1993, allowing Indigenous groups to reclaim legal rights over certain crown lands. Alas, not the natural resources.

You are missing my point, perhaps deliberately. Those natural resources were never going to be utilized by a Stone Age people. It was only after they got Western education the value was comprehended.

You are also thinking of the indigenous people as a monolith. In reality, as Wilcannia demonstrated in 2000, they are still a squabbling rabble.

Take a drive through Murrum Bridge, Bourke or Fitzroy Crossing. It may get those romantic notions of the noble indigeni out of your head.

Edited by Lacessit

5 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Vile and ignorant garbage. Everyone wants Intel microprocessors and semiconductor chips, they're in all his devices.

Nike and New Balance sneakers are heavily sought after overseas.

Steinway & Sons pianos are globally viewed as the ultimate benchmark of excellence for professional concert venues.

The review from the British Topgear on the latest Cadillac:

“There's no hiding just how good the Lyriq is to behold and drive. This is Cadillac at its unique best. The bold, new styling works in the metal and on the road. It manages to be both functional and special. This is Cadillac at its unique best again.

By focusing on luxury rather than outright on-road performance, it has created a useful, comfortable and, yes, even elegant solution to the electric SUV question. One which, powered by GM’s excellent Ultium platform and extensive network, will be a pleasure to own and drive.

Especially when it can be bought for less than a Tesla Model Y, which appears to have started to price itself out of the market, Superchargers or not. With initial Lyriq demand massively outstripping supply, it’s no surprise that it’s continued to sell like good-ole American hotcakes.

This is the face of the new electric-generation Cadillac. We like it, and apparently plenty of you already do, too."

https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/usa/cadillac/lyriq-us

He probably drives a cheap Chinese EV.

Lol, the advanced chips are made in Taiwan and Holland. Sneakers are made in China, as are Trump bibles.

Chinese EV's are destroying Tesla's market. Cheaper and better.

You sure are doing a great job of proving your ignorance on all threads.

6 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

Maybe because they don't want to be ruled by a pedo.

I don't think there's much chance of the Dems winning the next election so you don't need to worry about that.

On 8/25/2026 at 11:50 AM, impulse said:

Quick question... What's the ratio of Dems and Repubs working at PBS?

Because at NPR, we found out it was 87 Dems and 0 Repubs.

And both have been in the hotseat for disingenuous reporting. So I don't put a lot of stock in a PBS report.

That said, they did a great documentary about racoons moving into suburbia. They should stick to what they're good at.

I use a neutral Ab Fortis estimation for media bias. I am not aware of any “blacklisting” of employees such as was done under McCarthy (R-Wis) in an earlier era.

On 8/26/2026 at 4:59 AM, Lacessit said:

Lol, the advanced chips are made in Taiwan and Holland. Sneakers are made in China, as are Trump bibles.

Chinese EV's are destroying Tesla's market. Cheaper and better.

You sure are doing a great job of proving your ignorance on all threads.

Tesla are far superior to that cheap Chinese tat. Much cooler as well. Nothing says Cheap Charlie with a lack of taste, quite like a Chinese EV.

As for Canada, I used to be a fan but now they've elected Trudeau followed by Carney I hope they go bankrupt and come crawling to the US for help, the Woke Cockwombles.

On 8/26/2026 at 5:45 AM, Lacessit said:

You are missing my point, perhaps deliberately. Those natural resources were never going to be utilized by a Stone Age people. It was only after they got Western education the value was comprehended.

You mean like a lot of Canada's natural resources will never be utilized on account of their Green policies?

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Tesla are far superior to that cheap Chinese tat. Much cooler as well. Nothing says Cheap Charlie with a lack of taste, quite like a Chinese EV.

Ok, you have just clearly demonstrated - if there was anyone on this forum who had any doubt left - that you are completely ignorant and inherently bigoted.

1 hour ago, impulse said:

You mean like a lot of Canada's natural resources will never be utilized on account of their Green policies?

No if you have a competent knowledgeable leader like PM Mark Carney who is able to balance strict green climate goals with efforts to fast-track natural resource projects.

1 minute ago, Eric Loh said:

No if you have a competent knowledgeable leader like PM Mark Carney who is able to balance strict green climate goals with efforts to fast-track natural resource projects.

Lol, Carney is as incompetent a Canadian there ever was, and there've been many. He's driving Canada right into a massive recession.

He's balancing massive recession with falling Canadian Dollar, lol.

Incompetent Poser.

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