6 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

What's daft about claiming antisemitism, and then not doing anything about it?

Its quite certain that the Thai authorities already saw the Jews out sign.

If they were going to take action, then they would have done so already .

Reporting it wouldnt make any difference

Screams of "Antisemitism" aren't going to work in Thailand as most Thais here in Thailand are as nationalistic as Israelis are, if not more than them.
Plus, the post-WW2 guilt suffered by virtually all descendants of Europeans is not a condition that is also shared by Asians in Southeast Asia. They had their own genocidal massacres in Asia, Southeast Asia, the Pacific Islands, and in China in the form of The Rape of Nanjing, the Nanjing Massacre, the Sook Ching massacre, and Unit 731 medical experiments and other inhumanities which overshadowed similar events in Europe committed on Jews, Romas, and Slavs.
So claiming Sondhi and company are "antisemites" isn't going to have the affect if would have in, say, Germany or other parts of the EU.
"Antisemistism" isn't going to work as a defense against Israelis acting badly in Thai nominee scams or any other acts that are illegal in Thailand. Ashkenazi Jews are nothing more to Thais than your garden variety of "Farang", i.e., they are no more special than any of we goyim of European or Slavic or Celtic or Anglo-Saxon descent. Join the plain-vanilla "Farang" club my Israeli brothers and sisters.

And by the way - you all are guests in Thailand, just like that rest of us plain-vanilla "Farangs." If you do illegal stuff, expect to get the attention of most nationalistic Thais, like Sondhi and Company, and about 70 million other Thai nationals.

Edited Friday at 11:00 AM3 days by connda

13 hours ago, Enoon said:

I'm pretty sure that would be news to the average Thai and that, for them, Jew/Israeli are interchangeable terms for a single, exclusive foreign group, who come from one place, somewhere across the big water.

Not all Thai's are rice growers from Issan.

13 hours ago, Enoon said:

A particular foreign group that has made itself more obnoxious than any other of the foreign groups, in multiple ways, and has consequently attracted the most ire from Thais.

The "ire from Thai's" is simply because they are not making money out of this "foreign group" yet, the Chinese package holiday "zero baht tourists" are fine. 😂

13 hours ago, Enoon said:

That group managed to do it all on its own,

Do what, exactly?

3 minutes ago, Jack from Phayao said:

Sure, but sadly Israeli's and Russians are disproportianately involved.

Do you have any evidence to back that claim up ?

23 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

Sondhi Limthongkul led supporters of the "Taking Back Our Thailand" movement to the Israeli Embassy in Bangkok on September 10, calling for action over alleged foreign domination of Thai real estate and concerns about some Israeli visitors.

Change the sentence, like below, and nobody would care.

Sondhi Limthongkul led supporters of the "Taking Back Our Thailand" movement to the Israeli US Embassy in Bangkok on September 10, calling for action over alleged foreign domination of Thai real estate and concerns about some Israeli American visitors.

Sondhi Limthongkul led supporters of the "Taking Back Our Thailand" movement to the UK Embassy in Bangkok on September 10, calling for action over alleged foreign domination of Thai real estate and concerns about some Israeli Scouser visitors.

Sondhi Limthongkul led supporters of the "Taking Back Our Thailand" movement to the Russian Embassy in Bangkok on September 10, calling for action over alleged foreign domination of Thai real estate and concerns about some Israeli Cossack visitors.

2 hours ago, Tourist2 said:

What about when Israelis and J's do it

(single themselves out for different treatment to everyone else
eg calling people a special word when they challenge jewish behaviour)???

Or is that pro-semitism?

Unbelievable that u guys have a special word to hide behind

Still writing imaginary op-ed columns for "Der Sturmer" are we?

4 minutes ago, connda said:

Screams of "Antisemitism" aren't going to work in Thailand as most Thais here in Thailand are as nationalistic as Israelis are, if not more than them.
Plus, the post-WW2 guilt suffered by virtually all descendants of Europeans is not a condition that is also shared by Asians in Southeast Asia. They had their own genocidal massacres in Asia, Southeast Asia, the Pacific Islands, and in China in the form of The Rape of Nanjing, the Nanjing Massacre, the Sook Ching massacre, and Unit 731 medical experiments and other inhumanities which overshadowed similar events in Europe committed on Jews, Romas, and Slavs.
So claiming Sondhi and company are "antisemites" isn't going to have the affect if would have in, say, Germany or other parts of the EU. "Antisemistism" isn't going to work as a defense against Israelis acting badly in Thai nominee scams or any other acts that are illegal in Thailand. Ashkenazi Jews are nothing more to Thais than your garden variety of "Farang", i.e., they are no more special than any of we goyim of European or Slavic or Celtic or Anglo-Saxon descent. Join the plain-vanilla "Farang" club my Israeli brothers and sisters. And by the way - you all are guests in Thailand, just like that rest of us plain-vanilla "Farangs." If you do illegal stuff, expect to get the attention of most nationalistic Thais, like Sondhi and Company, and about 70 million other Thai nationals.

OK, : Is saying Jews out and wanting all Jews to be deported, is that Anti Semitic or not ?

Is that an Anti Semitic sign ?

12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

It can be both.

Jews used as a canary in the coal mine.

The political winds in Thailand are obviously anti-foreigner in general.

It's convenient that many foreigners happen to be racist Jew haters and are cheerleading scapegoating Jews when the overall political wave is about them as well.

Good point.

I would bet on other nationalities overstaying, or committing a crime in Thailand, being higher, per capita, than the Jews / Israelis, yet it's the Jews / Israelis that are getting a lot of anti-foreigner attention at the moment.

2 minutes ago, connda said:

Screams of "Antisemitism" aren't going to work in Thailand as most Thais here in Thailand are as nationalistic as Israelis are, if not more than them.
Plus, the post-WW2 guilt suffered by virtually all descendants of Europeans is not a condition that is also shared by Asians in Southeast Asia. They had their own genocidal massacres in Asia, Southeast Asia, the Pacific Islands, and in China in the form of The Rape of Nanjing, the Nanjing Massacre, the Sook Ching massacre, and Unit 731 medical experiments and other inhumanities which overshadowed similar events in Europe committed on Jews, Romas, and Slavs.
So claiming Sondhi and company are "antisemites" isn't going to have the affect if would have in, say, Germany or other parts of the EU. "Antisemistism" isn't going to work as a defense against Israelis acting badly in Thai nominee scams or any other acts that are illegal in Thailand. Ashkenazi Jews are nothing more to Thais than your garden variety of "Farang", i.e., they are no more special than any of we goyim of European or Slavic or Celtic or Anglo-Saxon descent. Join the plain-vanilla "Farang" club my Israeli brothers and sisters. And by the way - you all are guests in Thailand, just like that rest of us plain-vanilla "Farangs." If you do illegal stuff, expect to get the attention of most nationalistic Thais, like Sondhi and Company, and about 70 million other Thai nationals.

Revealing of your knowledge level to say Ashkenazi Jews in the context of Israelis in Thailamd.

The majority of modern Israeli are NOT Ashkenazi origin so it follows that would be reflected in the Israeli Jews visiting and living in Thailand. Also you seem to be painting Jews as white. Again it sounds as if you're thinking about the minority in Israel (Ashkenazi). Also whether Ashkenazi Jews are "white" or not is a can of words question that isn't really resolvable as whiteness is a social construct.

Do you think Thais think Arabs are farang?

Some of your points have merit but at the end of the day carrying signs against Jews in front of the Israeli embassy is unambiguous racist Jew hating by obvious basic definition. Whether that labeling has any power when told to Thais or not doesn't change the objective fact of what it is.

Edited Friday at 11:10 AM3 days by Jingthing

23 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

The group said it wanted to submit a letter demanding a crackdown on foreign capital acquiring property in Thailand, including through Thai nominees. It said the aim was to protect Thai sovereignty, the interests of Thai people and domestic businesses.

When I was in Phuket recently , I saw many Arab owned businesses , many hotels and restaurants were Arab owned .

Does the protest group also want those businesses back from the Arab Muslim foreigner business owners ?

I guess that the farangs in Thailand who are first in line claiming all critique of Israelis is "antisemitism" could collectively begin writing sharply worded accusations against Thai citizens such as Sondhi and his followers demanding that they be sanctioned and perhaps even arrested for their "antisemetic behavior."
However, do realize that making those claims opens farangs making such statement, such as yourselves, to criminal defamation? Remember - you ARE in Thailand and subject to Thai defamation laws.

In Thailand, criminal defamation is defined in Section 326 of the Criminal Code:
Whoever imputes anything to another person before a third person in a manner likely to impair that person’s reputation or expose them to hatred or scorn commits defamation.Key points:

• The statement must be communicated to at least one third party (not just said privately to the target).

• It does not have to be false to be an offence; the focus is on whether it is likely to harm reputation.

• Basic offence (spoken or similar): up to 1 year imprisonment and/or a fine of up to 20,000 baht.

• If done by publication (documents, pictures, film, broadcast, online posts, or any other means of spreading it): up to 2 years imprisonment and a fine of up to 200,000 baht (Section 328).

  library.siam-legal.com

There is a limited truth defence (Section 330): if the accused proves the statement is true, they are not punished unless it concerns a purely private matter with no public benefit.Good-faith exceptions also exist (Section 329), such as fair comment on a matter of public interest, statements made in official duties, or reports of open court proceedings.The offence is compoundable: prosecution generally requires a complaint from the injured person (or their close family if they have died). Section 327 also covers statements about a deceased person that harm the reputation of their family.Separately, civil liability can arise under Section 423 of the Civil and Commercial Code for circulating untrue statements that injure reputation, credit, or earnings.(Note: insulting the King, Queen, heir, or Regent is a different and far more serious offence under Section 112, not ordinary defamation.)

16 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Revealing of your knowledge level to say Ashkenazi Jews in the context of Israelis in Thailamd.

The majority of modern Israeli are NOT Ashkenazi origin so it follows that would be reflected in the Israeli Jews visiting and living in Thailand. Also you seem to be painting Jews as white. Again it sounds as if you're thinking about the minority in Israel (Ashkenazi). Also whether Ashkenazi Jews are "white" or not is a can of words question that isn't really resolvable as whiteness is a social construct.

Do you think Thais think Arabs are farang?

Some of your points have merit but at the end of the day carrying signs against Jews in front of the Israeli embassy is unambiguous racist Jew hating by obvious basic definition. Whether that labeling has any power when told to Thais or not doesn't change the objective fact of what it is.

Again:

Change the sentence, like below, and nobody would care - including you.

Sondhi Limthongkul led supporters of the "Taking Back Our Thailand" movement to the Israeli US Embassy in Bangkok on September 10, calling for action over alleged foreign domination of Thai real estate and concerns about some Israeli American visitors.

Sondhi Limthongkul led supporters of the "Taking Back Our Thailand" movement to the UK Embassy in Bangkok on September 10, calling for action over alleged foreign domination of Thai real estate and concerns about some Israeli Scouser visitors.

Sondhi Limthongkul led supporters of the "Taking Back Our Thailand" movement to the Russian Embassy in Bangkok on September 10, calling for action over alleged foreign domination of Thai real estate and concerns about some Israeli Cossack visitors.

2 minutes ago, connda said:

Again:

Change the sentence, like below, and nobody would care - including you.

Sondhi Limthongkul led supporters of the "Taking Back Our Thailand" movement to the Israeli US Embassy in Bangkok on September 10, calling for action over alleged foreign domination of Thai real estate and concerns about some Israeli American visitors.

Sondhi Limthongkul led supporters of the "Taking Back Our Thailand" movement to the UK Embassy in Bangkok on September 10, calling for action over alleged foreign domination of Thai real estate and concerns about some Israeli Scouser visitors.

Sondhi Limthongkul led supporters of the "Taking Back Our Thailand" movement to the Russian Embassy in Bangkok on September 10, calling for action over alleged foreign domination of Thai real estate and concerns about some Israeli Cossack visitors.

But they arent going to any other Embassy though .

This is Thai Muslims getting involved in the Gaza war .

They are siding with Palestine Muslims in their war against Jews

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

But they arent going to any other Embassy though .

This is Thai Muslims getting involved in the Gaza war .

They are siding with Palestine Muslims in their war against Jews

Why don't you get on Thai social media and call Sondhi and his fellow protestors "antisemites" by name. A number of you have already done so on this forum, which by the way is counter to forum rules on "defamation." At worse you risk being tracked down and charged with criminal defamation for impinging on the reputations of the protestors with high-profile names, like Sondhi. Stand behind your principles, right?

I think it is unfortunate that pejorative term, "antisemite," rolls so easily off the tongue of a number of the farang on this forum.

My point being - if the protest was against Americans, Russians, or English? This would be a non-issue and no one on this forum would be using highly charge, pejorative terms to defame the protestors.

It would be interesting if this forum suddenly caught the interest of high-profile Thais who consider their personal reputations to be inviolate. Defamation is serious stuff here in Thailand.

3 minutes ago, connda said:

Why don't you get on Thai social media and call Sondhi and his fellow protestors "antisemites" by name. A number of you have already done so on this forum, which by the way is counter to forum rules on "defamation." At worse you risk being tracked down and charged with criminal defamation for impinging on the reputations of the protestors with high-profile names, like Sondhi. Stand behind your principles, right?

I think it is unfortunate that pejorative term, "antisemite," rolls so easily off the tongue of a number of the farang on this forum.

My point being - if the protest was against Americans, Russians, or English? This would be a non-issue and no one on this forum would be using highly charge, pejorative terms to defame the protestors.

It would be interesting if this forum suddenly caught the interest of high-profile Thais who consider their personal reputations to be inviolate. Defamation is serious stuff here in Thailand.

You didn't answer my question :

Was the sign they were holding up Anti semetic ?

Is Jews out Anti semitic or not ?

25 minutes ago, connda said:

Again:

Change the sentence, like below, and nobody would care - including you.

Sondhi Limthongkul led supporters of the "Taking Back Our Thailand" movement to the Israeli US Embassy in Bangkok on September 10, calling for action over alleged foreign domination of Thai real estate and concerns about some Israeli American visitors.

Sondhi Limthongkul led supporters of the "Taking Back Our Thailand" movement to the UK Embassy in Bangkok on September 10, calling for action over alleged foreign domination of Thai real estate and concerns about some Israeli Scouser visitors.

Sondhi Limthongkul led supporters of the "Taking Back Our Thailand" movement to the Russian Embassy in Bangkok on September 10, calling for action over alleged foreign domination of Thai real estate and concerns about some Israeli Cossack visitors.

It wasn't those.

It was at the Israeli embassy and some shockingly explicit anti Jewish signs were displayed.

1 hour ago, KhunHeineken said:

Good point.

I would bet on other nationalities overstaying, or committing a crime in Thailand, being higher, per capita, than the Jews / Israelis, yet it's the Jews / Israelis that are getting a lot of anti-foreigner attention at the moment.

Yep, especially unfair when you consider "My money built your country"

As said by that Israeli backpacker who wouldn't take her shoes off in the Thai restaurant.

These Thais obvs don't know on which side their bread's buttered!

17 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

You didn't answer my question :

Was the sign they were holding up Anti semetic ?

Is Jews out Anti semitic or not ?

To you and a few others on here, maybe it is antisemitic, but to Thai's it means they want Jews out.

25 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

It wasn't those.

It was at the Israeli embassy and some shockingly explicit anti Jewish signs were displayed.

Shockingly explicit to you, but not to the Thai's protesting.

You will have to learn that in Thailand, Jews and Israeli's have no extra rights that they enjoy in other parts of the World, with reference to their religion or status, above any other Foreigners.

3 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

To you and a few others on here, maybe it is antisemitic, but to Thai's it means they want Jews out.

A post truth world statement.

If someone held a rally in the US with signs saying blacks back to Africa would you seriously read that as neutral?

Edited Friday at 12:21 PM3 days by Jingthing

3 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

, Jews and Israeli's have no extra rights that they enjoy in other parts of the World,

What extra rights do Jews/Israelis have in other parts of the World ?

Focus on banning the DTV visa, which is wrecking Thailand.

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

How about to you ?

Was it anti semitic to you

Do you regard it as being Anti Semitic ?

Not to me it wasn't, but I never signed up for any Western political claptrap about Jewish feelings.

Personally I've always thought the Jews I've known through business and social contact have been lovely people, but then if the question of religion or the Holocaust came up I would state quite clearly I have no interest in religion and think that what happened nearly 100 years ago is ancient history, although very sad for those involved, now if that's antisemitic, I'm guilty as charged, but then again I don't give two hoots, life is the here and now, we'll all be brown bread soon enough.

14 minutes ago, Tourist2 said:

Often (or usually (allegedly)) whiney but keen paticipants in the victim olympics
Often (or usually (allegedly)) seek to take over, change and/or ruin their host nations.

Here are the Countries taken over , changed and "ruined" by White Christian Europeans .

What Coutries have Jews colonised ?

None

18 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

A post truth world statement.

If someone held a rally in the US with signs saying blacks back to Africa would you seriously read that as neutral?

But we're not talking about "Blacks back to Africa" are we?

We are discussing Thai's not liking what Jews/Israeli's are/have/ allegedly been doing in their country Thailand.

1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Not to me it wasn't, but I never signed up for any Western political claptrap about Jewish feelings.

Did you sign up for any "Asian political claptrap about Jewish feelings?"

"The Singaporean government maintains a zero-tolerance policy toward any form of antisemitism, considering the safety of its minority populations foundational to national security."

Strict Legal Protections

• The Maintenance of Religious Harmony Act (MRHA): This unique law empowers the government to take pre-emptive action and issue immediate restraining orders against anyone—including religious leaders—who tries to cause ill-will, hatred, or hostility between different religious groups.

• The Penal Code: Uttering racial or religious slurs, defacing religious property, or intentionally wounding the religious feelings of any person (online or offline) carries severe criminal penalties, including mandatory jail time.

• Equal Enforcement: Singapore enforces its laws blindly across all communities. For instance, the state has prosecuted and removed religious leaders from other faiths for making derogatory remarks about Jews or Christians in their sermons.

2. Proactive National Security & Policing

• The Internal Security Act (ISA): Singapore's domestic intelligence agency actively monitors extremist threats. The government has used the ISA to detain or issue restriction orders against self-radicalized individuals targeting the Jewish community long before they could act.

• Physical Security: Prominent Jewish landmarks, such as the Maghain Aboth Synagogue and the Jacob Ballas Centre, receive close monitoring and protective oversight from local law enforcement, especially during high-tension geopolitical events.

3. Buffering Against Foreign Conflicts

• Ban on Importing Tensions: The government strictly prohibits citizens from bringing foreign political conflicts (such as the Israel-Hamas war) into domestic life. Harassing local Jewish residents over the actions of the Israeli government is treated as criminal hostility rather than protected political speech.

• Strict Control Over Public Events: Protests, rallies, or public fund-raising related to sensitive Middle Eastern politics are heavily restricted and monitored to prevent the incitement of local violence or harassment.

My wife who takes little interest in global affairs save to keep abreast as to what Lisa is doing and a whipped visceral hatred of Cambodians despite me saying it’s a manufactured war has recently pipde up about the Jews taking over Thailand. They are the canary in the goldmine it looks like the authorities has their first farang scapegoat to say look over there not here. That said IDF yobs on R&R lording it over the locals don't help their cause. I remember we were in Mae Hon Song in 2003 and an Israeli group in our hotel were utterly obnoxious loud mouther , clicking their fingers and treating the Thais like serfs.

22 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Sure.

In Thailand Jews Out is a friendly greeting.

Do you agree with those signs?

It is not for me to agree or disagree with signs Thai people have at a protest in their Country, it has no effect on me whatsoever, apart from the fact that I can smile about you and a few others on here getting their collective knickers in a knot. TIT

Sondthi is a nasty piece of work and in the yellow movement he stepped on a few toes back in the day and survived an assasination attempt. My money is on he did his job got too big for his boots and got a warning just like Suthep. Useful idiots

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/apr/17/bangkok-yellow-shirt-shooting-thailand?utm_source=chatgpt.com

48 minutes ago, Tourist2 said:

Yep, especially unfair when you consider "My money built your country"

As said by that Israeli backpacker who wouldn't take her shoes off in the Thai restaurant.

These Thais obvs don't know on which side their bread's buttered!

What kicked Thailand up the ladder was the Vietnam War.