6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Are you an activist against all the other ethno stares existence in the world?

I thought not.

Only the one Jewish one.

This debate is about Jews and Israel, well it is for me, you are just throwing garbage into the air, hoping some will stick, no substance, just the normal I am right and woe betide anyone who is against me, either try and debate the subject, or keep your hands off the keyboard.

What are ethno stares? sounds a bit queer to me.

5 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

This debate is about Jews and Israel, well it is for me, you are just throwing garbage into the air, hoping some will stick, no substance, just the normal I am right and woe betide anyone who is against me, either try and debate the subject, or keep your hands off the keyboard.

What are ethno stares? sounds a bit queer to me.

I knew you couldn't answer that question.

Smoked you out Some lists include Thailand.

Examples of Ethno States

Country	Dominant Ethnic Group	Characteristics
Israel	Jewish	Governed primarily for the benefit of the Jewish population.
Greece	Greek	Strong national identity rooted in Greek Orthodox Christianity.
Poland	Polish	Predominantly Polish Catholic heritage influences governance.
Japan	Japanese	National identity closely tied to Shinto-Buddhist culture.
Saudi Arabia	Arab	An Arab kingdom with Islamic governance principles.
Egypt	Arab	An Arab republic with a Muslim majority.
Jordan	Arab	An Arab kingdom with a Hashemite monarchy.
Lebanon	Various (Maronite Christians, Sunni Muslims, Shia Muslims)	Key government positions reserved for specific religious groups.

Since we're talking definitions.

According to my definition anyone that opposes the existence of the world's one tiny Jewish ethno saate and does not oppose the existence of all the other ethno states in the world is a racist Jew hater by basic definition.

Also it any group needed an ethnic state in their ancestral homeland after thousands of years of very severe persecution in the diaspora -- it is the Jewish people.

Yes that is Zionism at its core.

Zionism as a liberation movement for an oppressed people.

That doesn;'t mean supporting Israeli governments or policies. or excuse their faults.

Edited 22 hours ago22 hr by Jingthing

14 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I knew you couldn't answer that question.

Smoked you out Some lists include Thailand.

Examples of Ethno States

Country	Dominant Ethnic Group	Characteristics
Israel	Jewish	Governed primarily for the benefit of the Jewish population.
Greece	Greek	Strong national identity rooted in Greek Orthodox Christianity.
Poland	Polish	Predominantly Polish Catholic heritage influences governance.
Japan	Japanese	National identity closely tied to Shinto-Buddhist culture.
Saudi Arabia	Arab	An Arab kingdom with Islamic governance principles.
Egypt	Arab	An Arab republic with a Muslim majority.
Jordan	Arab	An Arab kingdom with a Hashemite monarchy.
Lebanon	Various (Maronite Christians, Sunni Muslims, Shia Muslims)	Key government positions reserved for specific religious groups.

Yeah, you got me on "ethno stares", that's why I queried the question, as you well know.

As I said in a previous post, this thread is about Thailand and Israel, if you want to debate other Ethnocratic States start another Topic.

Just to give you a few pointers I'll say this:

Ethnocracy is a political science term rather than a single global law, meaning its legality depends entirely on the domestic constitution of a specific country, though certain ethnocratic practices can violate international human rights standards.

Global human rights bodies state that laws discriminating against people based on race, descent, or ethnic origin violate international law.

There is no global court that outlaws a specific type of government structure. Instead, international organizations criticize or penalize specific discriminatory laws rather than declaring an entire regime "illegal."

Start a new topic if you want.

1 hour ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Yeah, you got me on "ethno stares", that's why I queried the question, as you well know.

As I said in a previous post, this thread is about Thailand and Israel, if you want to debate other Ethnocratic States start another Topic.

Just to give you a few pointers I'll say this:

Ethnocracy is a political science term rather than a single global law, meaning its legality depends entirely on the domestic constitution of a specific country, though certain ethnocratic practices can violate international human rights standards.

Global human rights bodies state that laws discriminating against people based on race, descent, or ethnic origin violate international law.

There is no global court that outlaws a specific type of government structure. Instead, international organizations criticize or penalize specific discriminatory laws rather than declaring an entire regime "illegal."

Start a new topic if you want.

That was a deflection.

Even if you leave the ethno state part out of it what reason other than racist Jew hatred could there be to opposing the existence of Israel and no other country in the entire world?

Edited 20 hours ago20 hr by Jingthing

9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

That was a deflection.

Even if you leave the ethno state part out of it what reason other than racist Jew hatred could there be to opposing the existence of Israel and no other country in the entire world?

Look, I oppose Israel, I do not hate Jews, live with that.

52 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Look, I oppose Israel, I do not hate Jews, live with that.

So you say. You can't explai why Israel is the only country in the world that you want to deny its very existence. You won't even try because you understand deep down how damning that is.

54 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

So you say. You can't explai why Israel is the only country in the world that you want to deny its very existence. You won't even try because you understand deep down how damning that is.

I do not deny Israel's existence, my hostility to Israel is that they will not comply with UN resolution and their Apartheid of the Arab indigenous people who they have dominated for the past 80 odd years, they started out as terrorists at the start of this whole debacle and lately under their present government have made matters worse.

They lie, cheat, manipulate at will, and up until lately have got away with it all, now the World are seeing the truth of their actions and no amount of Hasbara from the likes of you and your ilk will change that.

Israel is a Pariah Apartheid State, if it wasn't for the support of numerous corrupt governments/politicians, including the USA, GB, and the like, who are balls deep in Israeli slush money in the form of AIPAC, Friends of Israel etc etc.

This is the usual Sondhi MO... whip up nationalist feelings from the brainwashed to deflect comment/scrutiny on the failings of the government and it's corruption/problems/misdeeds, convenient timing huh... blame the easy option that has no cost. Classic Thai politics slight-of-hand and the paid for rent-a-mob morons always buy it, grab their nationalist pitchforks and go to the alloted place to yell. Sondhi has done this so many times and is essentually just out of jail and a convicted criminal... but gets free reign because it serves BJT.

Edited 18 hours ago18 hr by Sir Dude
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7 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

They lie, cheat, manipulate at will,

Anti Semitic statement right there

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Anti Semitic statement right there

Quote the whole piece or get lost, had enough of your garbage.

3 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Quote the whole piece or get lost, had enough of your garbage.

I just highlighted the Anti semitic bit .

But, if thats what you want fair enough

20 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

I do not deny Israel's existence, my hostility to Israel is that they will not comply with UN resolution and their Apartheid of the Arab indigenous people who they have dominated for the past 80 odd years, they started out as terrorists at the start of this whole debacle and lately under their present government have made matters worse.

They lie, cheat, manipulate at will, and up until lately have got away with it all, now the World are seeing the truth of their actions and no amount of Hasbara from the likes of you and your ilk will change that.

Israel is a Pariah Apartheid State, if it wasn't for the support of numerous corrupt governments/politicians, including the USA, GB, and the like, who are balls deep in Israeli slush money in the form of AIPAC, Friends of Israel etc etc.

Anti Semitic statement right there

7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Anti Semitic statement right there

Where?

There is no mention of Jews, as it is a criticism of the State of Israel, I hope I have complied with the IHRA definition, that was my intention, so there is no antisemitism in that statement.

52 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

They lie, cheat, manipulate at will,

So, just for clarification .

Palestinian Muslims also lie, cheat, manipulate at will ?

Not just Israeli Jews ?

6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

So, just for clarification .

Palestinian Muslims also lie, cheat, manipulate at will ?

Not just Israeli Jews ?

The clarification is in the whole piece, I did not mention Jews, Palestinians, or Muslims, because it is about the State of Israel only.

48 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

The clarification is in the whole piece, I did not mention Jews, Palestinians, or Muslims, because it is about the State of Israel only.

Yes, so you think that Palestinian Muslims also lie, cheat, manipulate at will ?

OK, fair enough

14 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Yes, so you think that Palestinian Muslims also lie, cheat, manipulate at will ?

OK, fair enough

Please do not have the effrontery to tell me how I think, the whole piece is reference to the State of Israel only.

7 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Please do not have the effrontery to tell me how I think, the whole piece is reference to the State of Israel only.

So, who is it that lie, cheat and manipulate at will ?

Which actual people do that ?