9 hours ago, ronnie50 said:

Yes, agree, but not sure how a Thai would know someone is Jewish with a different passport (provided they don't have an Israel flag sewn on to their daypacks). Anyway, Jews and Israelis should learn from this - regardless if they think it's unfair. Some years ago, the Chinese government was horrified at the bad publicity its tourists were getting in Thailand and acted. Chinese tourists can still be loud and to some annoying, but I think they've learned to be more aware of the cultural sensitivities due to their government's intervention. Aside from illegal businesses - a problem with foreign nationalities from many countries here - the Chinese aren't in the news as much anymore.

The Chinese have stopped going to Thailand en masse .

I expect many Israelis will be dissuaded from going to Thailand as well .

Thailand will need to try to encourage Indians to visit Thailand to adress the short fall in visitors

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Depends who said it .

If it was just some random person, certainly the Israeli embassy isn't responsible for speech of all their nationals and do we even know he was Israeli?

This is comedy gold, so it is widely reported that someone in the Chabad says to a Thai official this is Israeli territory and you question whether he is Israeli, so if he isn't Israeli why on earth would he say what he said, come on, man up, of course he was.

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2 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

This is comedy gold, so it is widely reported that someone in the Chabad says to a Thai official this is Israeli territory and you question whether he is Israeli, so if he isn't Israeli why on earth would he say what he said, come on, man up, of course he was.

Now I am wondering if there is a possibility that the comment may not even have been said at all.

After browsing some Thai media sources, I'm not convinced they don't have a hidden agenda. Just speculating, though.

5 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

This is comedy gold, so it is widely reported that someone in the Chabad says to a Thai official this is Israeli territory and you question whether he is Israeli, so if he isn't Israeli why on earth would he say what he said, come on, man up, of course he was.

Did he show his passport.

Has the person been identified?

If he was a Chabad official that's one thing.

If he was just some random moron, it's another.

Can you identify exactly who he was?

Has official Chabad EVER said that is their policy? OF COURSE NOT!

6 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Now I am wondering if there is a possibility that the comment may not even have been said at all.

After browsing some Thai media sources, I'm not convinced they don't have a hidden agenda. Just speculating, though.

Thai officials inspecting the Chabad House in Patong, Phuket, were met with an unusual exchange on July 23 when a man allegedly claimed the premises were “Israeli territory“.

The incident occurred during an operation led by Deputy Interior Minister Polapee Suwannachet. Officials were inspecting businesses as part of a crackdown on suspected nominee shareholding and unauthorised foreign business operations.

Read the original article at: https://thethaiger.com/news/phuket/chabad-house-phuket-inspection-israeli-territory-claim

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Did he show his passport.

Has the person been identified?

If he was a Chabad official that's one thing.

If he was just some random moron, it's another.

Can you identify exactly who he was?

Has official Chabad EVER said that is their policy? OF COURSE NOT!

Deputy Interior Minister Polapee Suwannachet could identify him, as he immediately rejected the remark, saying Thailand’s laws apply equally to everyone in the country.

“This is Thailand. Everyone on Thai soil must comply with Thai law. No one has the right to claim sovereignty over Thailand.”

Read the original article at: https://thethaiger.com/news/phuket/chabad-house-phuket-inspection-israeli-territory-claim

7 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Thai officials inspecting the Chabad House in Patong, Phuket, were met with an unusual exchange on July 23 when a man allegedly claimed the premises were “Israeli territory“.

Allegedly - exactly. There's no proof of anything. You need to take his word for it. It's not written or recorded anywhere.

Based on another suspicious Thai news story I came across, I have come to the conclusion that I will not be trusting the Thai media fully. They are capable of playing politics as well as anyone else to achieve their end goals.

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5 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Allegedly - exactly. There's no proof of anything. You need to take his word for it. It's not written or recorded anywhere.

Based on another suspicious Thai news story I came across, I have come to the conclusion that I will not be trusting the Thai media fully. They are capable of playing politics as well as anyone else to achieve their end goals.

Has the Chabad House in Patong denied that anyone made the statement?

5 hours ago, Jingthing said:

My point is in the context of the hysterical rise in racist Jew hatred

It's the same point you make on every thread mentioning j's or israel.

Zero nuance just attack attack attack!

IMHO the only thing that binds jews is 'grievance culture'
and an appeal for special treatment.

It's not an ethnicity since women can marry in and convert, it's not a religion since most don't believe
but they sure as hell stick together - even when fellow Jews do something terrible.

ie. Here's the story of how the ADL was formed:

• Mary Phagan, 13, was found dead in the basement of the National Pencil Company in Atlanta in April 1913. She had gone there to collect her wages. There was evidence suggesting rape too.

• Leo Frank, the Jewish superintendent of the factory, was arrested and ultimately prosecuted for her murder.

• Frank tried to blame Jim Conley, a Black factory sweeper/custodian a court found that Frank had killed Phagan and had ordered Conley to help move her body and write misleading notes. Conley became the prosecution's key witness.

• Frank was convicted in August 1913 and sentenced to death.

• Georgia Governor John Slaton commuted Frank's death sentence to life imprisonment.

• In August 1915, a group of armed men kidnapped Frank from prison, took him to Marietta, and lynched him.
  
  The ADL were formed to defend this POS.
  SEEMS 99.9% ONLY have loyalty to each other and their cause.
  

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54 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

This is comedy gold, so it is widely reported that someone in the Chabad says to a Thai official this is Israeli territory and you question whether he is Israeli, so if he isn't Israeli why on earth would he say what he said, come on, man up, of course he was.

Have you said that the land is Thai territory, even though you're not Thai ?

10 minutes ago, LeonardoM said:

Has the Chabad House in Patong denied that anyone made the statement?

The Chabad group may be bringing in too much investment in real estate and Thai elites may feel threatened?

So you may never know who said what. All is fair in love and war.

Who knows what's going on? My brain is not sophisticated enough to understand these power plays going on.

I should have not fallen asleep when they were teaching Sun Tzu, but I did sleep through it.

9 minutes ago, Tourist2 said:

It's the same point you make on every thread mentioning j's or israel.

Zero nuance just attack attack attack!

IMHO the only thing that binds jews is 'grievance culture'
and an appeal for special treatment.

It's not an ethnicity since women can marry in and convert, it's not a religion since most don't believe
but they sure as hell stick together - even when fellow Jews do something terrible.

ie. Here's the story of how the ADL was formed:

• Mary Phagan, 13, was found dead in the basement of the National Pencil Company in Atlanta in April 1913. She had gone there to collect her wages. There was evidence suggesting rape too.

• Leo Frank, the Jewish superintendent of the factory, was arrested and ultimately prosecuted for her murder.

• Frank tried to blame Jim Conley, a Black factory sweeper/custodian a court found that Frank had killed Phagan and had ordered Conley to help move her body and write misleading notes. Conley became the prosecution's key witness.

• Frank was convicted in August 1913 and sentenced to death.

• Georgia Governor John Slaton commuted Frank's death sentence to life imprisonment.

• In August 1915, a group of armed men kidnapped Frank from prison, took him to Marietta, and lynched him.
  
  The ADL were formed to defend this POS.
  SEEMS 99.9% ONLY have loyalty to each other and their cause.
  

The real story .

You forgot the mention that the Jew was framed for the murder due to anti semitism and that's why the ADL was formed

he Case of Leo Frank

• The Murder: In April 1913, 13-year-old Mary Phagan was murdered in an Atlanta pencil factory.

• The Arrest: Leo Frank, the Jewish factory manager, was arrested.

• The Trial: The trial featured intense public hostility and widespread antisemitism, with crowds outside shouting threats against Frank.

• The Verdict: The court convicted Frank based largely on changing testimony from Jim Conley, the factory janitor. Historians and later reviews showed the trial was deeply unfair and driven by prejudice.

The Founding of the ADL

• The Response: Deeply concerned by the rising wave of antisemitism surrounding the trial, Sigmund Livingston founded the Anti-Defamation League in September 1913.

• The Mission: The organization was created to stop the defamation of the Jewish people and to secure justice and fair treatment for all citizens. [1]

Later Events

• The Commutation: In 1915, Georgia Governor John Slaton reviewed the case and changed Frank's death sentence to life in prison because the evidence showed serious doubts about his guilt. [1, 2]

• The Lynching: An angry mob broke into the prison later that year and lynched Frank in Marietta, Georgia. [1, 2]

• The Pardon: In 1986, the State of Georgia granted Frank a posthumous pardon, recognizing the state's failure to protect him or provide a fair tria