game4shame Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 I made my first visit to phuket a few months back (at the 7th time of asking) and stayed in a decent enough hotel close to bangla in patong - central, big clean room, pool, spa, sauna, decent staff etc for a reasonable B1000 a night. I just checked the same hotel for peak season and it's coming in at B2500 for the same room. samui edge their prices up a little (the resort I use in samui increases by approx B200 per night in peak season) and the hotel I use in bkk doesn't change, so why the blatant 250% peak season butt-raping by phuket hotels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Rule of Supply & Demand. Most big hotels are fully booked during peak time, so they can cash in big time with premium rates. My advise - go on holiday to Phuket low season. I would not (& do not) pay peak season prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donna Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 they do it simply because of supply and demand. a hotel i was working at is selling for about 2200thb now (perhaps even 1800 on some websites) but its going up to 10,000 over peak season, and in addition to this is a gala dinner at over 3000++thb per person. at this stage, many of the hotels in phuket are over booked, and one hotel with 120 rooms is 100 rooms over booked due to a big error made by their reservations staff. (oops) if you really want to visit phuket over the peak period, you dont have a choice, im afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quero Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 First of all, I wouldn't call THB 1,000 for a place like the one you describe as 'reasonable' for the facilities. I'd call it d**n cheap! So perhaps THB 2,500 isn't 'unreasonable' given the quality of the hotel? How much would you expect to pay for a place like that at home? Second, you know the rule of thumb for the property market: location, location, location. Hotel properties in which you 'rent' a room for a night or more fall into the same category. If you want lodgings in a spot that is in high demand, you have to be prepared to pay a premium. Having said that, not all properties raise their prices that much. Many of the guesthouses and inexpensive places I use to put people up only raise their prices by 200 to 500 THB--so 800 to 1000 or 1200 to 1500, and so on. They are not within spitting distance of Bangla Rd, though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Just a matter of perspective. You could also look at it as an (very) attractive low season price, and normal high season rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naka Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 (edited) Just a matter of perspective. You could also look at it as an (very) attractive low season price, and normal high season rates. How would you then describe the "Gala Dinner" Rip Off now that is nasty, nasty ! Pricey Phuket indeed. Naka. Edited September 19, 2007 by naka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 I have a mate who is really struggling to find any room in Patong over the peak xmas time.. Also I will never stay in a place that does the compulsory dinner deal !! I dont mind paying what a room costs but hitting me with those stealth price gouges is too close to deceptive practices that I simply refuse to give them my biz. I strongly push others from staying there also.. Hopefully enough bad sentiment will mean that they lose in the long run. So what Hotel is that Donna ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
game4shame Posted September 19, 2007 Author Share Posted September 19, 2007 they do it simply because of supply and demand. Rule of Supply & Demand. these are replies I predicted.....................but it doesn't make it right. bkk and samui don't raise the stakes 250% so why just accept the phuket pricing? maybe a mass peak season boycott is in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartecosse Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 that would be nice, no tourists here at Xmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Having a room at 1000baht, you were subsided by people paying 2500 baht at other times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 they do it simply because of supply and demand. Rule of Supply & Demand. these are replies I predicted.....................but it doesn't make it right. bkk and samui don't raise the stakes 250% so why just accept the phuket pricing? maybe a mass peak season boycott is in order. Phuket obviously has higher competition for the limited supply.. If there wasnt they would not be able to get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKKDUDE Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 samui edge their prices up a little (the resort I use in samui increases by approx B200 per night in peak season) and the hotel I use in bkk doesn't change, so why the blatant 250% peak season butt-raping by phuket hotels? Answer to your question would be explained best by giving an example: In sai-nam yen Rd, Close to where i stay, A big guest house with 50 rooms, had 5 occupied rooms today only eventhough they charge 500bhat/day, they up the price to 1500 Bhat a day in peak season, to compansate for 8 months low occupancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solo siam Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 they do it simply because of supply and demand. Rule of Supply & Demand. these are replies I predicted.....................but it doesn't make it right. bkk and samui don't raise the stakes 250% so why just accept the phuket pricing? maybe a mass peak season boycott is in order. Not as popular, Phuket is rammed around Dec/Jan, no hotel rooms, no villas available for rent etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donna Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 i will have rooms available over the peak period, no gala dinner, but as the hotel is still being built, i am unable to give out any details or website at the moment. we will, however, be a higher rate than what the OP is willing to pay, as we will be a boutique style hotel with four star service and a fabulous restaurant. as the time nears and things are more finalised, you will hear more about the project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaigerd Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Look at this hope it's ok........otherwise mods should delete it. Gerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 THe high season rate is the NORMAL rate. These rates are halved in low season. It is not the other way round. Any profit made in low season here is a bonus. Remember, the seasons in Samui are a bit different and they have a steadier flow of customers during what is considered the low season in Phuket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nongwahyay Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Just as a comparison, in Berlin I ocasionally reserve a single room for a colleague in a hotel on the "Kurfürstendamm", which is pretty much a top address. During the week the room costs 78 Euros with breakfast - at weekends or when there is a big exhibition, event or whatever the same room costs up to 180 Euros...................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom yum goong Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 don't forget that samui has 2 high seasons compared to only 1 in Phuket due to different weather pattern on that side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozymandious Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 i will have rooms available over the peak period, no gala dinner, but as the hotel is still being built, i am unable to give out any details or website at the moment. we will, however, be a higher rate than what the OP is willing to pay, as we will be a boutique style hotel with four star service and a fabulous restaurant. as the time nears and things are more finalised, you will hear more about the project. ...and you'll invite us all over for dinner too, right Donna? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donna Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 i just might do that oz. gonna have jacuzzi's on the rooftop too..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quero Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 i just might do that oz. gonna have jacuzzi's on the rooftop too..... Oooh! Dinner then post-prandials in the rooftop jacuzzi! Can you at least say what part of the island your new hotel will be located, donna? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Ummm ... I always thought that self promotion of own or associated business was not allowed on this forum.... Maybe different rule for mods.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Lets face it.. People did ask.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 i just might do that oz. gonna have jacuzzi's on the rooftop too..... I've always loved you donna... you know that Ummm ... I always thought that self promotion of own or associated business was not allowed on this forum.... Maybe different rule for mods.... Maybe there is an advertising deal already agreed, but due to the project not finishing nothing has been published... or maybe you were just looking to take a dig at a moderator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Maybe there is an advertising deal already agreed, but due to the project not finishing nothing has been published... or maybe you were just looking to take a dig at a moderator Just my honest comment. No dig. Still want an answer to my question..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donna Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Ummm ... I always thought that self promotion of own or associated business was not allowed on this forum.... Maybe different rule for mods.... considering i have not named the business, LivinginKata, i do not consider this self promotion. should anyone want to know the name of the business at a later date, i will let them know by PM. not that its any of your business, but advertising agreements are under discussion at the moment. get off my case. and try reading my posts in the context in which they were written instead of trying to find ways to push my buttons. (spoken as a poster, NOT a moderator) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Ok... I'm not trying to push any buttons. I raised a genuine question, and now I have the answer. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donna Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 you are more than welcome. im glad i could be of assistance. please come again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Burr Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Maybe there is an advertising deal already agreed, but due to the project not finishing nothing has been published... or maybe you were just looking to take a dig at a moderator Just my honest comment. No dig. Still want an answer to my question..... And a fair question it was.......answered, but with bad grace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prakanong Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 THe high season rate is the NORMAL rate.These rates are halved in low season. It is not the other way round. Any profit made in low season here is a bonus. Remember, the seasons in Samui are a bit different and they have a steadier flow of customers during what is considered the low season in Phuket. Its not the norma; rate or whatever that is - its the price in high season. I am not saying hotels should not charge any price they like when they like - the market will decide if they want to purchase at that price. Hotels and airlines have to follow the pricing model they do and for very good reasons. Their seatsand rooms could be considered almost like durable goods - when the night is over or the flight has left and the room and seat was empty then they can never sell that particular room-night or seat-flight combination again. Its gone forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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