JustAnotherFarang Posted September 22, 2007 Posted September 22, 2007 Well if thats the case, I think I might opt for 500 bht per month because the service was definately more consistant. It really feels like they are capping torrents on 2048/1024 because I rarely get past 45k whereas previously I had a solid 90kon my 1024/512 connection JAF
Tung_Thaid Posted September 22, 2007 Posted September 22, 2007 Well if thats the case, I think I might opt for 500 bht per month because the service was definately more consistant. It really feels like they are capping torrents on 2048/1024 because I rarely get past 45k whereas previously I had a solid 90kon my 1024/512 connectionJAF I agree Torrents seem to be 'shaped' with TOT. I got back to 'more usual' speeds by using uTorrent - and choosing Options / Preferences / BitTorrent and allowing Outgoing Protocol Encryption. Also - choose your own Port number for Incoming Connections rather than any 'default'. Google for more assist with uTorrent if you need tutorials.
JustAnotherFarang Posted September 22, 2007 Posted September 22, 2007 Yes already use UTorrent but I never encountered this problem before. It seems to have started with the latest version of Utorrent and TOT upgrading my line. I will try reinstalling UTorrent providing I can keep my existing incomplete downloads andeven reinstall Windows XP if necessary but I do think it is a new guideline............increased speeds but capped torrents until 2am in the morning JAF
JustAnotherFarang Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 I am using version 1.75 and was not aware that other clients may not accept it, maybe thatis where my problem is occuring. But it is strange that at 2am my speeds picked right up to 192 kps for 3-4 hours then drop right back down to 45kps again and wil probably remain there all day If it true about the newer UTorrent not accepting older clients I will have to roll back my previous installation Thanks for your advice JAF
genobkk Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 any idea when the speed increase will be for Ptattaya?? just checked my modem setting and only 1024 download, but my international link speeds are only 200 kps any how so I think sicne I can NOT even get my 1024 or even close, I am getting 20 percent of what I pay for so think it iwll be useless
torrenova Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 I'll have a look to see how I know what speed I'm on with TOT but can someone please put some clues up. Thanks
torrenova Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 Seems I found it. on 192.168.1.1 it shows as 1024/512 Do I just have to wait ?
raslin Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 (edited) Seems I found it.on 192.168.1.1 it shows as 1024/512 Do I just have to wait ? I'm on the same ISP with 256/128 nominal speed. Bad for 3 months now, more like 35/50 from the US. Used to be fine. Edited September 27, 2007 by raslin
basjke Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 Seems I found it.on 192.168.1.1 it shows as 1024/512 Do I just have to wait ? Don't expect to much from the upgrade.Got mine upgraded to 2048/512 3 days ago,doesn't makes any difference in speed to the international sites during daytime.In daytime my downloadspeed to usa using speedtest is 70-80 Kbps.To bangkok servers is 1700-1800 but I'm not so in to look up thai websites.At night,and then I talking about between 2 am and 4.30 am,the international speeds will improve to over 1000 Kbps.
Petch01 Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 Below you find a picture of my bittorrent downloads today (Thursday, 27th September 2007). I am using UTorrent 1.7.5. Until twelve o'clock I was runnig three downloads with poor ratios. The value increased a lot when I started downloading two files with ratios of 53/2 and 38/0 (seed/leech). For me there is no evidence that UTorrent 1.75 is not connecting or that TOT is capping seeing the graph. Petch01
basjke Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 Below you find a picture of my bittorrent downloads today (Thursday, 27th September 2007).I am using UTorrent 1.7.5. Until twelve o'clock I was runnig three downloads with poor ratios. The value increased a lot when I started downloading two files with ratios of 53/2 and 38/0 (seed/leech). For me there is no evidence that UTorrent 1.75 is not connecting or that TOT is capping seeing the graph. Petch01 Right there is no evidence.I am downloading one and the same torrent for about 6 days now.During day and evening time I will get a download of max 20 KB which will be reduced to 0 KB every 10 to 15 minutes.I even need to close the torrent if I want to open a website so I even don't bother downloading during daytime anymore.Around 2 am that same torrent will run up to 150 KB but only for about 3 hours.Can you give me an explanation for that? Forgot to mention at all time I have a seeder ratio over 30
nikster Posted September 28, 2007 Posted September 28, 2007 (edited) I have yet to see my current torrent download exceed 90KB/s However, in reality, your torrent download will on average be exactly the same speed as your maximum allowed upload. I have set mine to 34KB/s so it doesn't starve the 512Kbit uplink, and that's exactly the download rate I will get over the life of the torrent. In the beginning, my download was very slow, now it speeded up to 90KB/s but I am approaching 1.0 share ratio so it's dropping down to be the same as the upload rate. That's the nature of bit torrent. So, on average, your download will be capped by the upload link speed which is 512Kbit. Not by the download link speed which is 2Mbit. Normal downloads via web browser are definitely capped by TOT and not faster than ~50KB/s for me. But if I use one of the downloader programs, I get the full 200KB/s no problem, even during the day. PS: I don't know what the seeder ratio is. Same as share ratio? Or ratio of seeders vs leechers? I find that the thing that matters most in any download is your own share ratio, e.g. how much was uploaded from your machine. And I assume that a tracker can keep track of your share ratio but if you use another tracker for a new download, that counts for nothing. The share ration can't really be kept client side or it would be too easy to hack... Edited September 28, 2007 by nikster
basjke Posted September 28, 2007 Posted September 28, 2007 I use Greedy Torrent to improve my share ratios.As it says on the tin, "the survival kit for a leech". Read the forums over there carefully before using it on private torrent sites or you may get discovered and warned! Works for me and I use it on nearly all private sites. PS: I don't know what the seeder ratio is Seeder (uploader) to leech (downloader) ratio matters as to what speed is available on torrents. If the leechers outnumber the seeders speeds will be relatively slow as all the leechers are downloading on all the seeders connections. Conversely, if there are loads of seeders and few leechers, speeds will be good as loads of connections will be available. It's one of the main reasons why not to jump on new torrents as speeds will usually be slow, especially with popular ones. Thanks for the greedy torrent link emperor.Just installed it and it works fabulous.Where I for the past 6 days got a download of 20 KB at this time I'm now actually at a speed of 82 KB on the same torrent.Only a shame that TOT every 10 minutes reduces my up and downspeed to zero for a few minutes.
nikster Posted September 28, 2007 Posted September 28, 2007 Seeder (uploader) to leech (downloader) ratio matters as to what speed is available on torrents. If the leechers outnumber the seeders speeds will be relatively slow as all the leechers are downloading on all the seeders connections.Conversely, if there are loads of seeders and few leechers, speeds will be good as loads of connections will be available. It's one of the main reasons why not to jump on new torrents as speeds will usually be slow, especially with popular ones. Tx for the greedy link - I might get back to that I thought BT was going to take care of the problem of many leechers / few seeders. Each leecher will download different parts from the seeder, then the leechers can trade between each other to make the download complete. Ideally, the seeder only needs to upload the whole thing 1 time, and the leechers each up and download 1 time. This isn't going to be perfect with ppl coming in / dropping out, but should be good enough. I think that things like greedy throw a big wrench into the system! So it's YOUR fault!
sniffdog Posted September 29, 2007 Posted September 29, 2007 Checked with TOT .... upgrade to 2048/512 in Petchburi Area will be finalized on October 5. Am curious if I get faster speeds with Flashget .. BTW Why are people using these Torrents? I've tried them many times and D/L times were horrible. It seems everything is available by Torrent is also available through Rapidshare and other file hosters. And as soon as the download starts, speed is immediately 100+ kBs ....
JustAnotherFarang Posted September 29, 2007 Posted September 29, 2007 Is it me or is it tha you can never find what you are looking for on rapidshare..... dont see any search engine ? Easy to find torrents with Torrent Harvester As for my previously slow speeds which only increased after 2am, it seems to have been a temporary glitch that the engineer said would be sorted by the end of the month, now averaging 130-160k in the daytime and supersonic shortly after 2am happy once again JAF
RKASA Posted September 29, 2007 Posted September 29, 2007 Most rapsh....t file have links exchanged in forums. I have only one time be able to get a download from it. I never even both to try anymore, always says server for your area has max'ed bandwith and please sign up here to pay. I am sure paid service works well, but other ways also work as well.
nikster Posted September 30, 2007 Posted September 30, 2007 Checked with TOT .... upgrade to 2048/512 in Petchburi Area will be finalized on October 5. Am curious if I get faster speeds with Flashget ..BTW Why are people using these Torrents? I've tried them many times and D/L times were horrible. It seems everything is available by Torrent is also available through Rapidshare and other file hosters. And as soon as the download starts, speed is immediately 100+ kBs .... I don't know about how to cheat with torrents but I can tell you how they are supposed to work. They start out slow and speed up after a while. Download speed depends on: Seeder/Leecher ratio, more seeders == better, and your own sharing ratio. If your sharing ratio is > 1, speeds will go up. BitTorrent is a tit-for-tat protocol - the more you give, the more you receive. Typically, for me, Torrents start out extremely slow, like a few KB/s and speed up over the life of the torrent. Just let it run in the background and don't worry about it, and check back every day or so.
sniffdog Posted September 30, 2007 Posted September 30, 2007 (edited) Correct ...... there are no search engines on Rapidshare. You just have to be clever and know the sites where people posts their links .... [EDIT: links removed] I don;t have to give anything, the speed is after a few seconds 100kBs .... Edited September 30, 2007 by monty no links to warez etc allowed
Tony Clifton Posted September 30, 2007 Posted September 30, 2007 (edited) For a few months now, my TOT connection is like clockwork, every day, fast only between 11pm and 8 am, then it's slow all day. At night, downloads reach 106 KB/sec, same file download in daytime always around 13 KB/sec. The same happens with other file downloads. I can only watch streaming video, youtube, online tv shows/movies at night. On the other hand, I can download multiple files at once during the day, 5 or 6, and each file comes in at 18KB/sec. A few internet cafes have opened around here, could that be the issue here? Edited September 30, 2007 by Tony Clifton
JustAnotherFarang Posted September 30, 2007 Posted September 30, 2007 Correct ...... there are no search engines on Rapidshare. You just have to be clever and know the sites where people posts their links ....[EDIT: links removed] I don;t have to give anything, the speed is after a few seconds 100kBs .... I gave it a try and found the sites to be interesting but the rapidshare download speeds extremely disappointing averaging 8.2kb which is nowhere near the torrent speeds I achieve of 192k. Is it a paid for account that you are using or the free one ? As it stands, imo Utorrent combined with Torrent Harvester and an online search engine like BTJunkie wins hands down unless I can achieve superspeeds with Rapidshare JAF
JustAnotherFarang Posted September 30, 2007 Posted September 30, 2007 For a few months now, my TOT connection is like clockwork, every day, fast only between 11pm and 8 am, then it's slow all day. At night, downloads reach 106 KB/sec, same file download in daytime always around 13 KB/sec. The same happens with other file downloads. I can only watch streaming video, youtube, online tv shows/movies at night.On the other hand, I can download multiple files at once during the day, 5 or 6, and each file comes in at 18KB/sec. A few internet cafes have opened around here, could that be the issue here? i have noticed similarities with UTorrent crawling along during the daytime, speeding up at night and found that throwing multiple files for it to download increased the speeds during the daytime........ Then I decided to dump Zonealarm Pro which was hogging my resources thus slowing my machine and try Comodo Firewall Pro which is free. Lo and behold after a little tinkering its flying along in the daytime and in the evening too maybe coincidence I dont know but I was tired of zonealrm and pleasantly surprised by Comodos offering JAF
sniffdog Posted September 30, 2007 Posted September 30, 2007 =================================================== Is it a paid for account that you are using or the free one ? =================================================== I have a Premium account and use Flashget. If you get a three month subscription, it is around US$8 per month. Upload and spread your links around and you can even earn a free account. =================================================== I gave it a try and found the sites to be interesting but the rapidshare download speeds extremely disappointing averaging 8.2kb which is nowhere near the torrent speeds I achieve of 192k. =================================================== But how long does it take to reach 192kB? I tried it a couple of times .. just couldn't handle the initial 3kB per second. I am interested to see which finishes first ..... a 7 x 100 mb on rapidshare or a 700 MB torrent.
JustAnotherFarang Posted September 30, 2007 Posted September 30, 2007 Aha a premium account........ But thats where I lose all interest in rapid share. I just dont like to pay for what I can get for free even if it earns me a scurvy seafaring reputation. As it is, I can download an entire series and a couple of films in a day and now that speeds are supersonic I have a huge backlog of movies, series, documentaries and games. I am more than happy with my free lunch JAF
JustAnotherFarang Posted October 1, 2007 Posted October 1, 2007 (edited) With regards to Greedy Torrent and UTorrent, I installed it and set it up easily using a screenshot from the internet and it all works well enough but at a cost to performance. Using Process Explorer I can see that Greedy Torrent (GTOR) is using betweeen 65-76 cpu cycles where as Opera with multiple open tabs uses only 20 cpu cycles. Isnt this excessively high and doesnt it somewhat defeats the purpose of using Utorrent which is low in memory usage and light on computer resources ?? I think I would only use GTOR when I leave the computer unattended JAF edit it calmed down after about 10 minutes but still kicks in heavy on the cpu cycles every 5 minutes or so. i will monitor it throufghout the day Edited October 1, 2007 by JustAnotherFarang
Tony Clifton Posted October 1, 2007 Posted October 1, 2007 Here`s what I get with my TOT Goldcyber 1024/512 between 8 a.m and midnight. My test file I download is not from torrents, now coming in a 10KB/sec, same file last night 106KB/sec. Time to give them a call, even Thaivisa seems like I`m on dialup in daytime.
basjke Posted October 1, 2007 Posted October 1, 2007 Is it me or is it tha you can never find what you are looking for on rapidshare..... dont see any search engine ? Easy to find torrents with Torrent Harvester As for my previously slow speeds which only increased after 2am, it seems to have been a temporary glitch that the engineer said would be sorted by the end of the month, now averaging 130-160k in the daytime and supersonic shortly after 2am happy once again JAF Where are you located?Seems to be somewhere inside the TOT exchange.
Naam Posted October 1, 2007 Posted October 1, 2007 Here`s what I get with my TOT Goldcyber 1024/512 between 8 a.m and midnight.My test file I download is not from torrents, now coming in a 10KB/sec, same file last night 106KB/sec. Time to give them a call, even Thaivisa seems like I`m on dialup in daytime. i'm on goldcyper too. here is mine done a few minutes ago:
Naam Posted October 1, 2007 Posted October 1, 2007 actually the speed to TOT's server in BKK is irrelevant. most of us access international websites where the speed never exceeds 200; in my case the average is 120-130.
basjke Posted October 1, 2007 Posted October 1, 2007 I am on TOT cybergold 2048/512.Today I have in my hotmail inbox 5 messages with an attachment ranging from 2 Mb to 6 Mb.To download the first message from 2.1 Mb took me little over 12 minutes.I think I will inform my mates to send me the messages by post in the future.It will be faster.
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