Why Big Dogs ?

[MsFigure]

Not me although I was there at the end of August

[Etrigan]

mixed - this is the first time I have ever read about a lab hurting a person. Can you provide a link to the original story, because it's hard to believe otherwise. Thanks.

[amexpat]

Responsible ownership will (usually) prevent bites. Trouble is, very few dog owners are knowledgeable and responsible.

Personally, I'd like to see owner training and licensing for the good of dogs. It is really sad the abuse any dog suffers at the hands of an ignorant, frustrated owner. I have taken every dog I've owned through obedience/companion training. I learn as much at the dog.

But, some Rottie and Pit owners choose these breeds because they (the owners) are paranoid or aggressive.

I'm on guard when I encounter these breeds (people or dogs) and I'm really not thinking about who will be at fault if it goes psycho.

[MsFigure]

mixed - this is the first time I have ever read about a lab hurting a person. Can you provide a link to the original story, because it's hard to believe otherwise. Thanks.

Link Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada September 1982 to November 13, 2006

From this site

Some interesting reading STOP BSL

Edited October 19, 2007 by MsFigure

[mixed]

mixed - this is the first time I have ever read about a lab hurting a person. Can you provide a link to the original story, because it's hard to believe otherwise. Thanks.

The story is very interesting, they think the dog start licking her face and ended up chewing and eating it. Not sure of the correct term, but dogs can 'drift' towards instinctive/wild behaviuor. This can also happen when a big dog chases a small dog playing with it, in certain circumstances the larger dog may see the smaller as prey and attack to kill, rather than just playing.

Labradors are lovely dogs, however they are very high on the list for biting children. Probably because they are chosen as family dogs and also because they are retrievers so biting is in their nature, although they have a soft bite.

Here is the link

/transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0602/06/acd.01.html

[MsFigure]

Two more interesting studies/reports into dog attacks & bites.

And Chihuahua's bite is worse than its yap news article

FatalDog.pdf

Fakta13.pdf

Edited October 19, 2007 by MsFigure

[Farma]

Although I’m not a great fan of big dogs I thought this was worth a mention.

Doberman saves girl and kelpie saves woman from snakes

Dog saves girl from snake

Jennifer Eliot

31Oct07

A NEGLECTED doberman adopted by a loving family last week has saved their toddler from being bitten by a deadly king brown snake.

Seventeen-month-old Charlotte Svilicic was playing in the garden of the family’s Atherton home on Monday when Khan the doberman grabbed her by the back of the nappy and threw her clear of the approaching snake.

The heroic pooch was bitten by the snake after saving the toddler but is recovering after a dose of anti-venom.

Continued here http://www.cairnspost.com.au/article/2007/.../4400_news.html

Dog saves owner from deadly snake attack

Andrew MacDonald

31Oct07

A BRAVE kelpie called Tess is in a coma after saving her owner from a deadly eastern brown snake, possibly at the cost of her own life.

Tallebudgera Valley retiree Fay Palethorpe, 68, was in the garden of her 8ha (20 acre) property in Syndicate Road when she came across the snake about 9.30am on Sunday.

One-year-old Tess and Ms Palethorpe's two other kelpies, including the puppy's father Widgee, sprang into action and attacked the highly venomous snake as it lunged for their owner.

The snake was injured and fled but Tess was bitten on the ear in the melee.

The brave dog now lies fighting for her life in a Tugun veterinary surgery.

Continued here http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/2007/1...-top-story.html

[little_muppet]

I got the biggest dogs of our street haha. they are big but very gentle... they scare of ppl but mostly ppl scare of their sizes first.

my dogs are Great danes and a Husky , well-trained and very lovely...they sleep on the same bedroom with me.

[Goshawk]

Have not met a single Pitbull or Rottie with a foul temper.

You've not met many then..?

nice doggy, pls don't maul my child to death

[elfe]

I got the biggest dogs of our street haha. they are big but very gentle... they scare of ppl but mostly ppl scare of their sizes first.

my dogs are Great danes and a Husky , well-trained and very lovely...they sleep on the same bedroom with me.

lovely

[little_muppet]

thank you

[Ahnsahn]

Doberman saves girl and kelpie saves woman from snakes

Here's another heroic Doberman story:

http://www.dailyindia.com/show/197124.php/...a-in-Tamil-Nadu

[MsFigure]

And another story from today news about a rotty x and staffy.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22925076-421,00.html

Dogs 'deserve medal' for saving drowning boy

December 14, 2007 05:31pm

Article from: AAP TWO dogs that saved a toddler from drowning by pulling him from a neighbour's central Queensland dam will be recommended for bravery awards, the RSPCA says.

The dogs, a rottweiler cross and a Staffordshire terrier named Muck and Tank, were today praised by the animal welfare group after they dragged their two-year-old owner from the dam on a property near Mackay, on the central Queensland coast.

Police said the dogs' heroic actions were discovered when the Andergrove property owner heard a noise and found the boy and his dogs on the embankment of her dam about 11am (AEST) yesterday.

The boy was covered in mud, had marks on his upper arms, and there were drag marks from his body in the mud, consistent with the dogs pulling him from the water.

Police said the boy had wandered from his home to a nearby property, and his dogs had followed.

The boy was taken to Mackay Base Hospital as a precaution but was unhurt.

RSPCA Queensland chief executive Mark Townend (Townend) today said it was an extraordinary story.

"To actually drag a kid out of a dam is amazing," Mr Townend said.

"It's sort of a bit unbelievable at first but police assure me that's exactly what's happened."

He said the RSPCA would get the details from the police and would decide whether the dogs qualified for its animal bravery award at the association's next meeting in February.

[MsFigure]

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0...5006301,00.html

Dogs drag toddler from dam

Article from: TWO family dogs are being hailed as heroes after they saved a two-year-old boy from drowning in a dam at a property near Mackay yesterday morning.

Police said the dogs, a Rottweiler cross and a Staffordshire Bull Terrier, dragged the boy from the water after he had wandered on to a neighbouring property's dam.

The owner of the property had heard a noise about 11am and had run to the dam, which was about 100 m from the house.

The woman found the boy lying on the embankment of the dam covered in mud with the two dogs, usually thought of as aggressive breeds, by his side.

Police said there were drag marks from the waters edge to where the boy was lying and small scratches on his arms from the dog's claws.

"We are certain the dogs pulled him out of the dam," a police spokesman said.

"It is an amazing story."

The Queensland Ambulance Service said the mother and child were taken to Mackay Base Hospital as a precaution, and the child did not need CPR.

They were believed to recovering at home yesterday evening.

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[mikethevigoman]

The last year I have noticed more and more expats here getting large dogs....mostly Pitbulls or rottys.

I don't understand why any one would buy or wish to own a dog breed that has such a history.

This isn't a post set up to bash the breeds or the owners But I just dont understand why.

If you had met my rottweilers when they were alive, you would totally understand why they are such a popular breed. Between my husband and I, we owned 6 rotts and they all were big lovable cuddly oafs and the only danger you would have with them would be that of drowning in rotty drool and being smothered by kisses

I've always prefered medium/large breeds (especially Rottweilers and Dogos) over the smaller breeds as I've found the smaller breeds more hyper/high strung, unpredicatable and temperamental than the larger breeds.

My reasons for preferring a large breed have nothing to do with sexual inadequacy, because they are "cool/tough dogs" to own or whatever other reasons people give to those that do own pitts, rotts or whatever other breeds are being demonised by the media. Just as everyone looks for or sees that "special something" in their partners and friends, dog owners look for and see what they like in their four-legged friends... With my dogs, I've always like the look of strong muscular dogs (which is also my preference in men ) but the personality of both the rotts and dogos are the biggest parts of my love for the breeds.

Now for those people that do own certain breeds due to "reputation" and their potential for aggressive/dangerous behaviour and who intentionally breed and encourage such behaviour in the breeds, don't get me started

Thank you!

Have you been in Phuket a couple of weeks ago and went with a tuk tuk down from CENTRAL?

Gerd

For me only a boxer will do

[little_muppet]

from the article, parents should have more responsible , never leave ur child alone with unattention . only blame to animail its quite unfair. as human we have brain we should know what we must do when we have dogs or pet and baby.

[MsFigure]

little_muppet, I was thinking the same thing about the parents (where were they and who was supervising the child & dogs?)

While this story had a happy ending, and the dogs now heroes - the fact and question remains how the child was able to wander onto a neighbours property and nearly drown, and who was responsible for the supervision of both child and dogs at the time this happened.

[kbvicar]

I got the biggest dogs of our street haha. they are big but very gentle... they scare of ppl but mostly ppl scare of their sizes first.

my dogs are Great danes and a Husky , well-trained and very lovely...they sleep on the same bedroom with me.

Hi muppet. How does your Husky handle the heat? Was it bred here in Thailand or imported?

Please give me a contact # because I'd like to have a Husky for a companion to my Bang Kaew.

[Naam]

slightly off topic and request for advice. i had - many years ago- for a rather short time a dog, got very attached and was devastated when the dog was killed by a car. for years i was yearning to have another dog but bouncing back and forth between different homes in different countries made that impossible.

as i am hardly travelling nowadays and have domestic staff to take care of a dog in case i am out this problem is solved. what i need is some sort of advice "how to select/keep a dog for Dummies". i am not interested in pure breds and neither am i interested in a very small or very big dog. i'd also prefer to go to some animal asylum and perhaps find a dog who selects me. where in the Pattaya area can i find such a place? thanks in advance for any suggestions.

[Nienke]

Dr. Naam (for me you remain Dr. )

You could try two places:

PLeuthaleung Homeless Animal shelter: http://www.tonydisco.com/html/dog_shelter.php

and/or

Ukkennels (if I have heard correctly, they have dogs there that never got collected ): http://www.ukkennelspattaya.com/

Wish you good luck with finding a wonderful new little friend.

Nienke

[endure]

The last year I have noticed more and more expats here getting large dogs....mostly Pitbulls or rottys.

I don't understand why any one would buy or wish to own a dog breed that has such a history.

This isn't a post set up to bash the breeds or the owners But I just dont understand why.

If you had met my rottweilers when they were alive, you would totally understand why they are such a popular breed. Between my husband and I, we owned 6 rotts and they all were big lovable cuddly oafs and the only danger you would have with them would be that of drowning in rotty drool and being smothered by kisses

I've always prefered medium/large breeds (especially Rottweilers and Dogos) over the smaller breeds as I've found the smaller breeds more hyper/high strung, unpredicatable and temperamental than the larger breeds.

My reasons for preferring a large breed have nothing to do with sexual inadequacy, because they are "cool/tough dogs" to own or whatever other reasons people give to those that do own pitts, rotts or whatever other breeds are being demonised by the media. Just as everyone looks for or sees that "special something" in their partners and friends, dog owners look for and see what they like in their four-legged friends... With my dogs, I've always like the look of strong muscular dogs (which is also my preference in men ) but the personality of both the rotts and dogos are the biggest parts of my love for the breeds.

Now for those people that do own certain breeds due to "reputation" and their potential for aggressive/dangerous behaviour and who intentionally breed and encourage such behaviour in the breeds, don't get me started

Thank you!

Have you been in Phuket a couple of weeks ago and went with a tuk tuk down from CENTRAL?

Gerd

For me only a boxer will do

Any excuse

[little_muppet]

I got the biggest dogs of our street haha. they are big but very gentle... they scare of ppl but mostly ppl scare of their sizes first.

my dogs are Great danes and a Husky , well-trained and very lovely...they sleep on the same bedroom with me.

Hi muppet. How does your Husky handle the heat? Was it bred here in Thailand or imported?

Please give me a contact # because I'd like to have a Husky for a companion to my Bang Kaew.

Hey, i dont know if she made in thailand! never ask my bf about that hahaha , but my bf brough her from a shop near future park (they got some imported dogs too but i didnt know if she was one) , she sleep in air con bed room with us, during day times we have big bow of water for her to mess around ;put her body in or else she find some cool place to sleep. . .

My husky is very good company with my2 great danes , she like to be chasing around and important thing is she can make my 2 great danes run playful funnier and happier.

by the way i know some ppl who breed husky for sale in Saraburi if u r interested i can give u their No# contact.

LMP

[kbvicar]

I got the biggest dogs of our street haha. they are big but very gentle... they scare of ppl but mostly ppl scare of their sizes first.

my dogs are Great danes and a Husky , well-trained and very lovely...they sleep on the same bedroom with me.

Hi muppet. How does your Husky handle the heat? Was it bred here in Thailand or imported?

Please give me a contact # because I'd like to have a Husky for a companion to my Bang Kaew.

Hey, i dont know if she made in thailand! never ask my bf about that hahaha , but my bf brough her from a shop near future park (they got some imported dogs too but i didnt know if she was one) , she sleep in air con bed room with us, during day times we have big bow of water for her to mess around ;put her body in or else she find some cool place to sleep. . .

My husky is very good company with my2 great danes , she like to be chasing around and important thing is she can make my 2 great danes run playful funnier and happier.

by the way i know some ppl who breed husky for sale in Saraburi if u r interested i can give u their No# contact.

LMP

OK muppet, what's their name and contact # ? Anyone else here in Thailand have Huskies???

[sbk]

Little muppet, please PM kbvicar the phone number of the breeder, thanks, per forum rules about posting phone numbers in the forum

[Naam]

Dr. Naam (for me you remain Dr. )

You could try two places:

PLeuthaleung Homeless Animal shelter: http://www.tonydisco.com/html/dog_shelter.php

and/or

Ukkennels (if I have heard correctly, they have dogs there that never got collected ): http://www.ukkennelspattaya.com/

Wish you good luck with finding a wonderful new little friend.

Nienke

BIG thanks Nienke!

will let you know the result. still trying to find on the internet "dogs for dummies" but no luck. whatever i found so far is "dogs for holders of a canine Ph.D"

[percy2]

Doc,

Try this.

Cheers

[Naam]

Doc,

Try this.

Cheers

thanks Percy. at first glance it looks exactly what i need.

[Nienke]

Dear Dr. Naam,

Just a simple googling (dogs dummies) gave me the following links:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1568848617...%3D#reader-link

http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesTit...0764552740.html

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0764552864...%3D#reader-link

The book "dogs for dummies' I've even seen in a second-hand bookshop in Chiang Mai.

Tut tut tut tut, Dr. Naam, you can do better then this. :D

Nienke

[MickA]

Little Muppet

Did you get your Great Danes here my wife is interested in getting a pair

[mikethevigoman]

The last year I have noticed more and more expats here getting large dogs....mostly Pitbulls or rottys.

I don't understand why any one would buy or wish to own a dog breed that has such a history.

This isn't a post set up to bash the breeds or the owners But I just dont understand why.

scared !