Snake

[jstumbo]

What about this snake? Anyone know what kind it is? Saw it running across the beach on Koh Chang. It was only around 40cm long, looked like a baby.

This picture is quite small...I don't see any red neck...but I do see very clear markings on it's face....would say it is a juvenile copperhead racer or radiated rat snake...harmless.

I think you are correct. Now that i know what to look for, I found some pictures on the Internet. The markings on it's face match the other pictures. About the only difference is that the small one I saw had black bands around it for the first half the snake, but the other pictures I have seen, they seem to be more like stripes.

Thanks,

Jim

[Sakeopete]

As for the OP and Neeranam's wife killing Rat Snakes, well that is just ignorance and a lack of education about the environment in which they live.

Go to Australia and anyone can tell you which snakes are harmless and which are not.

Maybe any redneck can tell me.

You obiously have never had a baby - if you would allow 10 foot rat snakes to play with baby, well that's what I call ignorance and lack of common sense.

I let my kids play with pythons, king snakes, boa constrictors and rat snake from about 16 months of age supervised ofc. The only time my 1 son was bit was by a dog never a snake had to take him to the hospital. Nobody would consider going around chopping the heads off of dogs though would they too bad people are biased towards animal that have no fur.

[Sakeopete]

What about this snake? Anyone know what kind it is? Saw it running across the beach on Koh Chang. It was only around 40cm long, looked like a baby.

They have a red neck right ?

They are venomous , what I read in my snake book pretty aggressive snakes .

Pretty small snake , but can be potential fatal , read that there have been victims of his bite so.....

This picture is quite small...I don't see any red neck...but I do see very clear markings on it's face....would say it is a juvenile copperhead racer or radiated rat snake...harmless.

I agree juvenile radiated rat snake harmless as they come.

[Acquiesce]

Oh no she's in mortal danger..........HELP!!!

[andyadam]

I have at time worked in and around the jungle near Chiang Mai, antivenin/antivenom is a must for the medics with us. We also have a snake wrangler to take care of the little beasts. On 1 day he removed 4 "life enders" where we were working, 2 of them were green!

At home I have had a few snakes in the garden and so far only killed 1 (very angry cobra), I have a very long stick with a wire loop on the end, failing that it's the rifle!!

Edited October 28, 2007 by andyadam

[chicowoodduck]

My grandmother always told me to kill first and ask questions later, except when in her garden. I think my grandma would have been launching that puppy into it's next life and never asking any questions.

[Theyreallrubbish]

While living in a house out by the airport one of the development's gardeners was bitten by a cobra while mowing my lawn! Made me nervous as heck going out the car each morning and I stopped walking in the garden in bare feet forever after that!

Of course the house was in an area that used to be known as Ngong Ngoo Hou - Cobra Swamp

[mark100]

A very long snake crawled along our Soi today , A very brave Thai lady of one of our members managed to kill it before it did any harm to the young children who play in the Soi, can anyone recognise the type and whether it is poisonois snake from this picture.

l think it could be a rat snake but not sure, what a shame somebody killed it. Really can't understand why the Thai's kill snakes all snakes in Thailand will try to avoid human contact, even the King Cobra.

[ozzydom]

quote Sakeopete]

Nobody would consider going around chopping the heads off of dogs though would they too bad people are biased towards animal that have no fur.

Dont believe it.... Around here the locals sweat on the dogs to make a mistake like kill a duck or nip someone and into the cookpot they go.

[phutoie2]

A very long snake crawled along our Soi today , A very brave Thai lady of one of our members managed to kill it before it did any harm to the young children who play in the Soi, can anyone recognise the type and whether it is poisonois snake from this picture.

l think it could be a rat snake but not sure, what a shame somebody killed it. Really can't understand why the Thai's kill snakes all snakes in Thailand will try to avoid human contact, even the King Cobra.

When you have to go out everyday to catch your evening meal you will understand. Country Thai's will eat anything that moves/swims crawl etc. Arroy arroy.

Last year a long rat snake (ngoo sing) wrapped itself around my father-in-laws arm when cutting out in the fields. He's 72 and still kills them.

[Neeranam]

At home I have had a few snakes in the garden and so far only killed 1 (very angry cobra), I have a very long stick with a wire loop on the end, failing that it's the rifle!!

You obviously have no environmental education like Acuiesce.

[Acquiesce]

Who's Acuiesce?

Anyway like i said, education is the key.

[xyborg]

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Like i said, your wife killing the snake is just mis-education or a lack of education about the environment in which she lives, probably not her fault, but you could help her out a little as i'm sure you must know better.

<br /><br />Have you read anything that I wrote? My wife killed the snake as we have a 8 month old baby that plays outside. There are 5 other young kids that play in the area.<br /><br />You know absolutely nothing about my wife's environmental education, so don't comment on it, ok?<br /><br />Please answer my questions KFC, beef or pork? <br /><br />Are you Thai or Ozzie?<br />

<br />Firstly, yes i have been reading what you have writen, this is what made me draw the conclusion that your wife is under educated about the environment in which you live, like i say this is understandable because of where she grew up and probably not her fault. I am well aware that you have children, does this mean you kill butterflies that come in the garden just incase they attack the children? This snake she killed would not come near and could have easily been waned of with some water or just by chasing it <img src="style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br />As far as your question about KFC, beef and pork. No i don't eat KFC, yes i eat beef and pork. There is a big difference between killing for food and killing out of ignorance.<br /><br />Thai or Ausralian? Neither i'm from the UK.<br /><br />I stand by my previous statements.<br />

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Is there such a thing as a killer butterfly then??? sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet Im outta here man!!!!!!!!!!

[xyborg]

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Slight off topic, but last time I was working near Nakohn Pathom, alongside the factory in some marshy overgrown scrub was the biggest lizard thing I have seen in my life, as you may guess I am no wildlife expert, but this thing was the size of a baby croc, silver grey and as butch as a very hard looking butch lizard. Now if it was between him moving or me, he would have won every time. Are these a common sight outside of the built up areas?

<br /><br />I saw one in Lumpini park and also one in another Bangkok park. They can't be too rare.<br />

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Ive seen some dog sized whoppers in and around Suan Luang park.

[serpentine]

Where did yu get that photo of the roo and snake? I'm aussi and I've seen some huge King Browns and Tigers but what on earrth is that thing?

[ozzydom]

As for the OP and Neeranam's wife killing Rat Snakes, well that is just ignorance and a lack of education about the environment in which they live.

Go to Australia and anyone can tell you which snakes are harmless and which are not.

Have you had much to do with reptiles in Oz.??? I dont think so !

We regard everything as dangerous (which they usually are ) until proven otherwise.

Its very obvious that you have never been chased by a bad-tempered venomous snake , or struck at by a Chappel Island Tiger snake or a King Brown,I have and it is not a pleasant experience..

Its a bit late to reach for your Snakes of Thailand book or go Googling after getting bitten.

Nail the suckers first ,identify it later....

[Acquiesce]

As for the OP and Neeranam's wife killing Rat Snakes, well that is just ignorance and a lack of education about the environment in which they live.

Go to Australia and anyone can tell you which snakes are harmless and which are not.

Have you had much to do with reptiles in Oz.??? I dont think so !

We regard everything as dangerous (which they usually are ) until proven otherwise.

Its very obvious that you have never been chased by a bad-tempered venomous snake , or struck at by a Chappel Island Tiger snake or a King Brown,I have and it is not a pleasant experience..

Its a bit late to reach for your Snakes of Thailand book or go Googling after getting bitten.

Nail the suckers first ,identify it later....

I spent over 3 years living in the Kimberley region of Western Australia, I found that EVERYONE knew about what reptiles were harmfull and what ones were not, they all had respect for the wildelife and environment and never killed harmless snakes out of ignorance and mis-understanding.

[ozzydom]

As for the OP and Neeranam's wife killing Rat Snakes, well that is just ignorance and a lack of education about the environment in which they live.

Go to Australia and anyone can tell you which snakes are harmless and which are not.

Have you had much to do with reptiles in Oz.??? I dont think so !

We regard everything as dangerous (which they usually are ) until proven otherwise.

Its very obvious that you have never been chased by a bad-tempered venomous snake , or struck at by a Chappel Island Tiger snake or a King Brown,I have and it is not a pleasant experience..

Its a bit late to reach for your Snakes of Thailand book or go Googling after getting bitten.

Nail the suckers first ,identify it later....

I spent over 3 years living in the Kimberley region of Western Australia, I found that EVERYONE knew about what reptiles were harmfull and what ones were not, they all had respect for the wildelife and environment and never killed harmless snakes out of ignorance and mis-understanding.

Lived in Oz,especially the Kimberleys and never partaken of roast snake or lizard, you really should get out more,you have to kill it to eat it....

[Acquiesce]

As for the OP and Neeranam's wife killing Rat Snakes, well that is just ignorance and a lack of education about the environment in which they live.

Go to Australia and anyone can tell you which snakes are harmless and which are not.

Have you had much to do with reptiles in Oz.??? I dont think so !

We regard everything as dangerous (which they usually are ) until proven otherwise.

Its very obvious that you have never been chased by a bad-tempered venomous snake , or struck at by a Chappel Island Tiger snake or a King Brown,I have and it is not a pleasant experience..

Its a bit late to reach for your Snakes of Thailand book or go Googling after getting bitten.

Nail the suckers first ,identify it later....

I spent over 3 years living in the Kimberley region of Western Australia, I found that EVERYONE knew about what reptiles were harmfull and what ones were not, they all had respect for the wildelife and environment and never killed harmless snakes out of ignorance and mis-understanding.

Lived in Oz,especially the Kimberleys and never partaken of roast snake or lizard, you really should get out more,you have to kill it to eat it....

Can you read and uderstand or just read?

Never killed harmless snakes out of ignorance and mis-understanding

Head, wall, brick.

[Acquiesce]

I will make it simpler, i have killed a rabbit to eat, but i have never killed one because ii thought it was a danger to my kids.

[Neeranam]

I spent over 3 years living in the Kimberley region of Western Australia, I found that EVERYONE knew about what reptiles were harmfull and what ones were not, they all had respect for the wildelife and environment and never killed harmless snakes out of ignorance and mis-understanding.

There all country bumkins there, that's why.

Maybe when you're in Thailand you should accept the way Thais do things. Next, you'll be wanting them to eat black puddings made from blood.

BTW, why is killing a snake worse than killing a cow? Try going to India and telling them there.

[Neeranam]

I will make it simpler, i have killed a rabbit to eat, but i have never killed one because ii thought it was a danger to my kids.

Now that is ignorance and lack of education.You'll be telling us next that you killed hamsters, gerbils, and squirrels. Murderer!

Edited October 29, 2007 by Neeranam

[Acquiesce]

I spent over 3 years living in the Kimberley region of Western Australia, I found that EVERYONE knew about what reptiles were harmfull and what ones were not, they all had respect for the wildelife and environment and never killed harmless snakes out of ignorance and mis-understanding.

There all country bumkins there, that's why.

Maybe when you're in Thailand you should accept the way Thais do things. Next, you'll be wanting them to eat black puddings made from blood.

BTW, why is killing a snake worse than killing a cow? Try going to India and telling them there.

At least your consistent in not understanding.

Killing to eat and killing to protect youself or others is different to killing out of pure ignorance thinking there is a threat where this is not.

Again, head, wall, brick.

TEFLer by any chance?

[Acquiesce]

I will make it simpler, i have killed a rabbit to eat, but i have never killed one because ii thought it was a danger to my kids.

Now that is ignorance and lack of education.You'll be telling us next that you killed hamsters, gerbils, and squirrels. Murderer!

If you had been with our regiment at the time i'm sure you would have done the same, either that or dont eat for a week or so.

[Acquiesce]

For neeranam

[Neeranam]

TEFLer by any chance?

No, why and what's that got to do with anything.

Security guard by any chance?

If you had been with our regiment at the time i'm sure you would have done the same, either that or dont eat for a week or so.

OMG, you think it's ok to kill people but not snakes!

Edited October 29, 2007 by Neeranam

[Okidoki]

Have to ask...

I have now read about green cobras and very deadly green snakes in the jungles outside Chiang Mai in this thread.

What sort are they? Do they have a scientific name? Have breed close to all sorts of cobras but never heard of a green one.

I think the only green snake that is dangerous is the bamboo pit viper/green tree pit viper. Genus Trimeresurus. Was bitten a couple of years ago and was hospitalized for three days.

If you keep yourself away from Cobras, Russels viper and Kraits, you will be fine. (I do not think there are any reported fatality bites from Kraits or Seasnakes) Other species might put you down and make you very ill but hardly kill you.

But, please. Enlighten me if I am wrong.

There are some good websites that you might find interesting. www.kingsnake.co.uk f eks with several links to other ones.

[jackr]

My son had picked it up before I saw it, he's done a lot of work at animal centres and fancies himself as a bit of a Steve Irwin !!!

Oh dear, and look what happened to him

What about this snake? Anyone know what kind it is? Saw it running across the beach on Koh Chang. It was only around 40cm long, looked like a baby.

Thought most snakes were legless

[jackr]

A harmless non-venomous Keelback nailed me on the ankle last week, trouble was the blood thinning medication following my heart op and the fact it got me on an artery meant I bled like a stuck pig, I spent a couple of days in the lounge chair to weak to stand up.

And NO,I didnt kill it ,only because I couldnt catch it,but every snake on our farm is on borrowed time from this day on.

Sh1t, don't sound good mate. Hope you're on the mend!

[jackr]

Accidentally flattened one couple days ago while opening the gate - wheels over mid-section - so reluctantly put him out of his misery Saudi-style Was a cute little striped tan/black thing. RIP