Jai Dee Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 One foreigner killed in 9-vehicle pileup Chon Buri - A foreigner was killed in a pileup of nine vehicles in this eastern coastal province Wednesday. Police said the accident happened at 11:10 am at an intersection on Sukhumvit Road in Chon Buri's Sattahib district. Four cars, three pick-up trucks, a bus and a motorcycle were involved in the accident. More details to follow. Source: The Nation - Breaking News - 21 November 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big A Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Condolences to all families. WHEN, OH WHEN, OH WHEN will these people ever learn to drive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Clifton Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Condolences to all families. WHEN, OH WHEN, OH WHEN will these people ever learn to drive! The day there is a police force in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Prior to placing the blame on "these" people, it would be nice to hear what happened In the meantime, my condolences to the family of the deceased and any others injured in the accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phibunmike Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Prior to placing the blame on "these" people, it would be nice to hear what happenedIn the meantime, my condolences to the family of the deceased and any others injured in the accident. Condolences of course. However, if there is a multi-vehicle pile-up there must be several drivers at fault, whatever the details or circumstances. Tony's comment about the police force is reasonable - it is my experience / impression that a substantial percentage of drivers have no licence, have never had driving lessons, or have never passed a driving test. This situation cannot be controlled until corruption is controlled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John K Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 I must admit driving in Thailand is something I decided not to do. From the time I have been here I have been involved in 3 accidents all while being a passenger on a bus. The worst one by far was a head on with a motorcycle coming back from Isaan. Considering it was Song Kran I did not think it was too unusual based on what I read about the typical number of traffic deaths at that time of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boater Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 http://www.pattayacitynews.net/news_21_11_50_2.htm Well the bus driver fled the scene!!??!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamsin Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Prior to placing the blame on "these" people, it would be nice to hear what happenedIn the meantime, my condolences to the family of the deceased and any others injured in the accident. It was the 'Foreigner's' fault of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peacemakers Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Have a safe Christmas and New year ! Take care, specially when you on the road. You may be an experience driver, but most other drivers are careless. Don't spoil your holiday !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Looking at the remains of Mr. Fearon's car it makesd me wonder how fast the bus was travelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted November 22, 2007 Author Share Posted November 22, 2007 American dies as bus crushes car A 62-year-old American man was killed and five Thais were injured in a pileup of nine vehicles at an intersection on Sukhumvit Road in Chon Buri's Sattahip district yesterday morning, police said. Three cars, three pickup trucks, a van, bus and motorcycle were involved in the collision at 11.30am. Police and rescue workers found the body of Michael Joseph Diron inside a Honda City car crushed by the bus, which was taking 260 Bangkok schoolchildren to visit the Sattahip Naval Base as part of a scout camping trip. Diron's Thai female companion Waranee Wanprasart, 32, was rushed to a nearby hospital along with chief petty officers 1st class Pakorn Robkhob, 36, and Sathien Sunasanam, 37, as well as Warin Udomamnuay, 27, and Manthana Klinnoi, 22. Lt-Colonel Nipon Pomsanam of Sattahip Police Station said the bus collided with Diron's and other vehicles waiting at a red light. Police would summon the bus operator for help in catching his driver, who fled the scene. Source: The Nation - 22 November 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 A major percentage of accidents could be prevented if people used the correct signalling (pulling out, turning, changing lane etc) and if they didn't get so dam_n close to the car in front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Looking at that picture; crikey it's not a good advert for the Honda City! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsieurhappy Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 a Honda City car crushed by the bus, which was taking 260 Bangkok schoolchildren to visit the Sattahip Naval Base as part of a scout camping trip. 260 kids on one bus!! The police should be asking questions at the school and bus operators about this! The poor kids must have been packed like sardines! Lucky that none of them were killed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredcyber Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 A ? presumably one bus, was carrying 260 children.!!! Surely not ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selftaopath Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Condolences to all families. WHEN, OH WHEN, OH WHEN will these people ever learn to drive! The day there is a police force in place. Daily I see the police "in place" and watching cars/bus'/motorbikes ignore red traffic lights at Thonglor and New Petchaburi road. I feel while crossing with the green light I am still putting myself in harms way due to the blatant disregard for laws/rules and lack of enforcement. So walking is also dangerous in BKK. Keoki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larvidchr Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 RIP to Mister Diron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thai_narak Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 a friend living in sattahip area told me that the crash was due to the bus' break malfunctioned and was not able to stop at the traffic light and therefore crashing all the cars waiting for the green light. also, there are no passengers (students) in the bus as they were left inside the navy base visiting the turtle conservation center while the bus driver went to buy petrol somewhere down sukhumvit road. the crashed happened when the bus was going back to the navy base to pick up the students. obviously, the bus is not carrying 260 students but there are other buses in the trip and not in the crash scene. i cannot attest how accurate this information is but it is likely. condolences to mr. fearon and the other thai man who died in the accident. may you rest in peace... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaoNiaw Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Once again great confusion from the various reports. The version by Khun Sorayuth on Channel 3 this morning was that 5 buses were in convoy transporting the kids. The tyre blew out on one of the buses and the driver lost control, ploughing into 9or 10 cars stopped at a red light. None of the children were hurt, but the foreigner who died was a passenger in one of the cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartender100 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 That cars a mess,just shows you how quick death can come,one minute your sitting at a traffic light then........ RIP Mr Fearon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qualtrough Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Prior to placing the blame on "these" people, it would be nice to hear what happenedIn the meantime, my condolences to the family of the deceased and any others injured in the accident. It was the 'Foreigner's' fault of course! You know nothing of the accident other than what you read here. Stop spreading the urban myth that it is always the foreigner's fault here. Search the forum to see that this has been debunked here many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big A Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 ........It was the 'Foreigner's' fault of course!.......... You know nothing of the accident other than what you read here. Stop spreading the urban myth that it is always the foreigner's fault here. Search the forum to see that this has been debunked here many times. I think he was being sarcastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 My remark was about placing the blame on "these" people before anything was posted about the accident. Sometimes it's a good idea to wait and see what happened. Of course, most of us know how drivers are here, but assuming things and knowing them are quite different. It takes some time to find out the details. Maybe a poorly maintained bus, a brake system that failed etc. And yes, in all likelihood, a poorly trained driver who fell asleep, was talking on a cell phone etc. etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Every time there is a serious accident involving fatalities, the party at fault always cites brake failure as the cause rather than dangerous driving. This is part of Thai (driving) culture. The reason they do this is to avoid any blame or repercussions related to dangerous driving. They would rather avoid going to prison or having to pay fines, medical expenses or funeral expenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thai_narak Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Every time there is a serious accident involving fatalities, the party at fault always cites brake failure as the cause rather than dangerous driving. This is part of Thai (driving) culture. The reason they do this is to avoid any blame or repercussions related to dangerous driving. They would rather avoid going to prison or having to pay fines, medical expenses or funeral expenses. agree... 3 out of my 5 accidents in thailand are on the traffic light. first, a pickup truck bump the back of my corolla in korat as he rushed from a curve just before the traffic light. second, in bangkok, a motorbike and 2 a55holes flew over my car after crashing my back bumper, they were drunk and luckily they survived the crash. and third, a delivery truck smashed into my bumper pushing me to the next car in front of me causing 3 car pile up. he is not fast (in bangkok) so not a major one. all these accidents are thai drivers no faults but their brake failed to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAWP Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 "Police would summon the bus operator for help in catching his driver, who fled the scene." What a f#cking surprise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
too true Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Every time there is a serious accident involving fatalities, the party at fault always cites brake failure as the cause rather than dangerous driving. This is part of Thai (driving) culture. The reason they do this is to avoid any blame or repercussions related to dangerous driving. They would rather avoid going to prison or having to pay fines, medical expenses or funeral expenses. agree... 3 out of my 5 accidents in thailand are on the traffic light. first, a pickup truck bump the back of my corolla in korat as he rushed from a curve just before the traffic light. second, in bangkok, a motorbike and 2 a55holes flew over my car after crashing my back bumper, they were drunk and luckily they survived the crash. and third, a delivery truck smashed into my bumper pushing me to the next car in front of me causing 3 car pile up. he is not fast (in bangkok) so not a major one. all these accidents are thai drivers no faults but their brake failed to work. Sounds like there's a nationwide crisis of faulty feet in Thai people, not faulty brakes in Thai cars. Maybe it's the culture of not using your feet for anything except walking that causes them to forget to brake, but still remember to flee after a crash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payboy Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 (edited) "Police would summon the bus operator for help in catching his driver, who fled the scene."What a f#cking surprise... the real surprise will be if they're able catch the correct culprit.... i suspect we will have to write this off as a case of mechanical failure thai vehicles seem to have minds of their own that would put transformers to shame... Edited November 23, 2007 by Payboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big A Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 (edited) Transformers actually drove better (no weaving in & out of lanes; consistent speed; used lights at night)!!! Edited November 23, 2007 by Big A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard10365 Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Condolences to all families. WHEN, OH WHEN, OH WHEN will these people ever learn to drive! I bet your glad they don't have vehicle accidents in the country where you come from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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