glasshock Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 UK Pounds - Thai Bht ....... 65.49 ........ Anyone take a stab in the dark as to when ...or if the rates will return to the norm? I know the government's unsettled at the moment so obviously exchange rates are affected,but how long for? We have a little UK cash to exchange and moneys from the UK to transfer. Start work in two weeks and paid in 6 weeks.... I'm dipping into the cash more often than I'd like and losing money all the time........ Any advice welcome..... Thanks again............ and once again some of the posts on here have made me laugh so much that I nearly stayed in over the festive period just to read our ramblings.... All the best......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naka Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 You are asking us to hand over the Holy Grail ! Of course even if we had it, we would never hand it over. Naka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasshock Posted January 2, 2008 Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 You are asking us to hand over the Holy Grail ! Of course even if we had it, we would never hand it over. Naka. Noted ...... but just one taste? ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 There's been several other active threads on this topic recently, some of them claim GBP will hit 50 something in 2008. Given the present outlook for Sterling this year there is no good news around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apetley Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Are rates likely to fall in the UK? The general feeling is yes so that means less Bht for your pound. Are Thai rates likely to go down? The general feeling is no, they may even rise a little as inflation in Thailand is expected to rise so that would mean less Bht for your pound. The wildcard, imho, is the stability of the to the Thai Government and even that may not weaken the Bht. Remember what happened immediately after the last coup, the Bht actually strengthened so don't count on tumoil in internal politics to give you more baht for your pound. Looking back over the last decade somebody posted here that the average exchanage rate was somewhere in the 65 Bht to the pound range. If you need the money and can get that then I would say take it. On a more cautious note if anyones stay in Thailand relies on a rate of 65 or over then they should seriously examine their finances and plan for a lower rate in the future as history indicates thats where the average will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm-happy Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 The Big question is: WILL THE LADIES IN PATTAYA adjust their rates to compensate for GPB deflation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasshock Posted January 2, 2008 Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 Are rates likely to fall in the UK? The general feeling is yes so that means less Bht for your pound.Are Thai rates likely to go down? The general feeling is no, they may even rise a little as inflation in Thailand is expected to rise so that would mean less Bht for your pound. The wildcard, imho, is the stability of the to the Thai Government and even that may not weaken the Bht. Remember what happened immediately after the last coup, the Bht actually strengthened so don't count on tumoil in internal politics to give you more baht for your pound. Looking back over the last decade somebody posted here that the average exchanage rate was somewhere in the 65 Bht to the pound range. If you need the money and can get that then I would say take it. On a more cautious note if anyones stay in Thailand relies on a rate of 65 or over then they should seriously examine their finances and plan for a lower rate in the future as history indicates thats where the average will be. Thank you ... very informative. The exchange rate doesnt affect my stay here.... just when you look at how much money you may be throwing away just by transfering at the wrong time............... it's quite shocking. Though growing up in England, my family are all Scots ....... so exchanging £1.00 at the wrong rate makes me shiver Thanks again, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 The Big question is:WILL THE LADIES IN PATTAYA adjust their rates to compensate for GPB deflation? Of course not. Remember what happened in 1997 - they started asking for dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasshock Posted January 2, 2008 Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 The Big question is:WILL THE LADIES IN PATTAYA adjust their rates to compensate for GPB deflation? I'm sure there are some here that will try!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 I don't think there's any way to accurately predict GBP movement against the Thai baht, as no such trade exists. The Trade is GBP>>>USD, USD>>>THB. Technical analysis hints at a better than average probability that the GBP will weaken further against the USD. What t6hat means for the USD>>THB trade, and by extension the GBP>>THB exchange, is anyone's guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 I don't think there's any way to accurately predict GBP movement against the Thai baht, as no such trade exists. The Trade is GBP>>>USD, USD>>>THB. Technical analysis hints at a better than average probability that the GBP will weaken further against the USD. What t6hat means for the USD>>THB trade, and by extension the GBP>>THB exchange, is anyone's guess. Agreed with Lana. But trade weighted GBP has shed 6% since November and there are more interest rate cuts forecast which causes GBP to lose its yield appeal. RBS forecast GBP/USD at 1.70 by end 2008 but also reckon that USD has further to slide. The combination of those two events, if they materialize, could spell a lot of pain for GBP into THB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilHarries Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Personally I see it all as crystal ball speculation coupled with the usual bunch of doomsayers trying to predict the future so they can say "told you so". The thing with these people is that, if correct, they all leap up and down with glee at their accurate prediction (aka guess) but if wrong they keep quiet and hope nobody remembers. The bottom line is that the GBP is more likely to fall, only the amount is in question, than rise certainly in the medium term. So exchanging money now is unlikely to be a bad move. The wild card is the public and military reaction to Thaksin's return assuming he does. Although the Baht did actually rise over the last coup it has to be remembered that the last coup was a peaceful, largely popular (in Bangkok), event that was viewed rather benignly by the business and political world. There was the usual condemnations trotted out for public consumption but nothing too strong. Another coup is unlikely to be so well received and any effect on the Baht is as impossible to predict as it is to predict the winning lottery number. But as long as the money you transfer is to be spent in Thailand any change in the exchange rate will not have a significant effect on it's spending power just will leave you with a "wish we held on/exchanged then feeling". You don't actually give an indication regarding the amounts involved in your transfers. If they are merely to cover day to day living expenses until your first pay packet then the rate is not going to make a huge monetary impact. But if it is a large wedge then you are right to be concerned about future trends. However if it is a large amount you're probably best off leaving it outside Thailand unless you really need it for property or business. There are pleny who can advise you on best currencies but the Euro is looking a good bet at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter991 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 I don't have a crystal ball, but looking at the historical exchange rates between the British Pound and the Thai baht, have a look here: Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 I predict UK pound to go down and therefore did a couple of transactions before New Year. One caught the slight upswing between Xmas & New Year. I noticed today we are on the way down again. It could be a big mistake to say - how long before it is back to "normal ". In my opinion normal in the next couple of years could be closer to 60Bt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wintermute Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 I'm all for an increase in the GBP if it gets rid of some of the tattooed football hooligans and other assorted trash on budget holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Personally I see it all as crystal ball speculation coupled with the usual bunch of doomsayers trying to predict the future so they can say "told you so". The thing with these people is that, if correct, they all leap up and down with glee at their accurate prediction (aka guess) but if wrong they keep quiet and hope nobody remembers.The bottom line is that the GBP is more likely to fall, only the amount is in question, than rise certainly in the medium term. So exchanging money now is unlikely to be a bad move. The wild card is the public and military reaction to Thaksin's return assuming he does. Although the Baht did actually rise over the last coup it has to be remembered that the last coup was a peaceful, largely popular (in Bangkok), event that was viewed rather benignly by the business and political world. There was the usual condemnations trotted out for public consumption but nothing too strong. Another coup is unlikely to be so well received and any effect on the Baht is as impossible to predict as it is to predict the winning lottery number. But as long as the money you transfer is to be spent in Thailand any change in the exchange rate will not have a significant effect on it's spending power just will leave you with a "wish we held on/exchanged then feeling". You don't actually give an indication regarding the amounts involved in your transfers. If they are merely to cover day to day living expenses until your first pay packet then the rate is not going to make a huge monetary impact. But if it is a large wedge then you are right to be concerned about future trends. However if it is a large amount you're probably best off leaving it outside Thailand unless you really need it for property or business. There are pleny who can advise you on best currencies but the Euro is looking a good bet at the moment. Phill, I don't get your post. The OP raises a question about what's happening to GBP and a few people answer. You reply with your opening statement and then go on to give your views the same as others. For my part I have no interest in being right on the predictions merely right on the financial decisions that come out of the debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntled Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Sounds like the US dollar will remain weak for the next decade or so unless of course we enter into world war 3 or something drastic happens. No real info to support this other than Bloomberg interviewees. I have dolalrs and I am not getting my hopes up. There's no reason to support the dollar as those at the top are completely free to put their money anywhere in the world. It's the average Joe who doesn't know or have the time to manage moving their money who will suffer. The world is being raped by people in finance and the people whose money they manage. How can you compete with someone who has people managing their money 24 hours a day moving it all over the world. Laundering money was a good way in the past for those in illegal businesses to hide it. Now, the idea of moving money is making the wealthiest even richer. I guess its something like day trading on speed. But who knows maybe I am completely wrong about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Isn't the rate just wonderful today? Anything above 37 baht to the pound is a bonus. When I came here it was that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?sh...p;#entry1738260 post # 228 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetjock Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Educated guesses are better than nothing in regards to where different currencies are headed so thanks Naam for a link to your banker's forcast chart. If anyone truly knew the answer to the OP question of where currencies are headed, I would guess they would be too busy spending the many millions they were making trading forex and would not have time to post on this forum. It is interesting however to read posters opinions and forcasts and the reasoning behind them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howtoescape Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 (edited) I'm all for an increase in the GBP if it gets rid of some of the tattooed football hooligans and other assorted trash on budget holiday. At 650GBP a flight it is hardly a budget holiday anymore. I saw 2 Australian businessmen types the other day with 2 boys that couldnt have been a day over 16, are these wealthy looking types the kind you want? The BBC was predicting the pound to weaken v the dollar this year and for it to strengthen v the euro later on in the year as most the bad news is already reflected in the pounds valuation v the euro. Edited January 2, 2008 by howtoescape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 It is interesting however to read posters opinions and forcasts and the reasoning behind them. i think most of us are influenced by what the media and our bankers tell us. my personal experience over many years: it was more profitable NOT to listen always to their advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 quite bulky but interesting. sorry, no link available. have to copy and paste: Summary The dollar has fallen to all-time/multi-year lows against a number of the word’s leading currencies in recent months, including the pound and euro. Both cyclical and structural factors have been at play. The cyclical downturn of the US economy makes investing in US assets appear less attractive and puts the greenback under pressure. From a structural standpoint, the dollar had to decline to help the US reduce its persistently high current account deficit. While conceivable, a disorderly “run on the dollar” is unlikely, as this would be in nobody’s best interest. The accompanying sell-off in US assets would lead to significant losses on the large stock of dollar-denominated assets held by central banks in Asia and the major oil-producing countries. With US bond prices under pressure, long-term interest rates would rise, denting US economic activity. The export sector in the UK and the Eurozone would be hit hard. Therefore, further sharp falls would likely prompt coordinated action by international policy-makers. An orderly re-balancing is more probable, facilitated by countries in the Middle East and Asia loosening their currency pegs against the dollar. This would help to bring global trade flows back towards a sustainable trajectory. Downward pressure on the dollar against the pound and the euro would also ease, although a major bounceback would be unlikely. In this scenario, UK and Eurozone exporters will suffer deteriorations in their competitiveness, but not a collapse. The decline – cyclical and structural The dollar has fallen to all-time/multi-year lows against a number of currencies in recent weeks. The immediate driver is a combination of concerns about the outlook for the US economy, given the slowdown in the housing market and subprime mortgage losses, and falling US short-term interest rates as the US Federal Reserve tries to stimulate the economy. Put simply, lower interest-rates and corporate profits make investing in US assets, primarily bonds and equities, less attractive relative to assets denominated in another currency, encouraging international investors to sell dollars and buy assets in other currencies. Chart 1 illustrates how the dollar has declined against the euro as the interest rate differential between the two currencies narrowed. There are also more fundamental structural reasons why the dollar is declining. The US runs a current account deficit of a size unprecedented in history, absorbing around ¾ of world savings. This is not sustainable. The decline in the greenback will help to bring the US current account, and global trade patterns, back to a sustainable trajectory. Furthermore, the dollar seems to be gradually losing its role as a reserve currency (see Appendix A for a more detailed explanation). Indeed the dollar has been on a longterm downward trend for a number of years (see chart 2). Although more sizeable, the recent falls of the greenback can be seen as a continuation of this long-term trend. A major floating currency that has not been on a long-term upward trend against the dollar is the yen. Official interest rates in Japan have been almost zero for more than a decade and are likely to stay so for a while (the official base rate currently stands at 0.5%). This makes the yen a major currency in the ‘carry trade’, i.e. borrowing in yen and investing the proceeds in countries where interest rates are higher. The ‘carry trade’ has been immensely popular with investors over the past years, resulting in a continuous sale of yen. Up until a few weeks ago, this has more than offset the upward pressure on the yen stemming from the Japanese trade surplus. However, the yen has started to appreciate against the dollar in recent weeks. This could signal a drop in investors’ risk tolerance, which increases the chances that investors start to abruptly unwind the ‘carrytrade’ and raises upward risks for yen vis-à-vis the dollar. “Their currency but our problem?” Why is the dollar’s weakness a potential concern? The most obvious effect is that exports from other countries are more expensive in dollar terms, harming competitiveness. This does not only affect exports to the US, but also exports to countries in Asia and the Middle East – because many of these countries peg their currencies to the dollar (whether formally or informally). Trade-exposed companies have two ways to cope with an increase in their domestic exchange rate: they either have to accept lower margins or increase their foreign price at the expense of market share. Recent evidence suggests they prefer volatility in the former to volatility in the latter (i.e. keeping dollar prices constant to maintain market share, and letting margins take the strain). In the short term, this means that the hit in terms of export volumes might not be too significant, but weaker profitability in the export sector is likely. UK and Eurozone not overly reliant on exports to the dollar bloc However, it is important to put these effects into context. The bulk of UK exports go to non-dollar countries, notably the Eurozone (see table). The US accounts for 14% of UK goods exports. This share rises to around 18% when we take into account the countries that peg their currencies to the dollar (e.g. China), and to about 21% if we add in those countries whose exchange rates are managed against the dollar (e.g. India). For the Eurozone too, the dollar-zone bloc is an important but not critical export market. The UK is the region’s largest external trading partner, followed by the US and then Switzerland. China is 6th, although Eurozone exports to China grew 21% in the first half of the year. In addition, the majority of Eurozone countries’ exports actually go to other Eurozone countries. (This is the distinction between extra-Eurozone trade and intra-Eurozone trade.) In the first half of the year, intra-Eurozone exports were €754bn (17.2% of GDP), while extra-Eurozone exports were smaller at €728bn (16.6% of GDP). Movements less pronounced on trade-weighted basis An important point to bear in mind is that appreciations against the dollar do not automatically equal appreciations against all other currencies. Although the euro has appreciated significantly against the dollar, it has not appreciated as much against the currencies of other leading trading partners. For example, against sterling, the euro has traded in a narrow trading band for a number of years, even taking the latest 5% appreciation into account (see chart 3). This is why we need to look at the currency’s movements on a ‘trade-weighted’ basis. On this measure, the euro is now only 5% higher now than it was on average in 2006, even though it is 17% stronger against the dollar (see chart 4). The difference is even more stark for the pound – the 8% appreciation against the dollar this year relative to the 2006 average contrasts with a 1% decline on a trade weighted-basis (see chart 5). This is largely due to the pound’s depreciation against the euro. Solid world economy also supports UK & Eurozone exports As well as the strength of the currency it is also the strength of world demand that is key to export performance (see chart 6). Rapidly growing economies in Asia continue to rely on imported capital goods from Europe for their manufacturing activities. We expect the world economy, and Asia in particular, to hold up in the months ahead. Demand for Eurozone and UK imports should therefore remain strong, another factor mitigating the dampening influence on exports from stronger currencies. The appreciations against the dollar will have some negative impact and net exports are unlikely to be the main driving force for growth in the months ahead. Nonetheless, after accounting for export patterns and movements against the currencies of the main trading partners, there is little reason to expect an immediate collapse of export growth in the UK or the Eurozone. But ‘brutal’ movement in exchange rates can disrupt the real economy Abrupt and large currency movements can have disruptive effects if they spill-over into domestic financial markets and from there into the real economy. The resulting speculative activity can negatively affect bond and equity markets, raising the cost of finance for companies and reducing household net wealth. The dollar still has many supporters but there is a chance that the orderly decline so far turns into a rout, with more serious consequences for the world economy than a mere rebalancing of trade patterns (see scenario 2 on page 4). Dollar decline fuels inflationary pressures A more long-term concern associated with the weak dollar is the resurgence of inflationary pressures across the globe. The Federal Reserve has not been shy in supplying dollars to the world economy, which were mainly absorbed by countries in East Asia running massive trade surpluses with the US. In the process, domestic liquidity has risen dramatically in these countries, setting off inflation in asset prices and, with a delay, in wages. This increases the local costs of production. The subsequent price increases are now re-imported into western economies that have come to depend on goods produced in Asia. Where next? Predicting future movements in currencies is an inexact science at the best of times, especially over short horizons. This is exacerbated in the current market environment marked by high uncertainty about the consequences of the global liquidity squeeze. In the longer term, however, we think that the current scale of global imbalances requires further adjustments in exchange rates – the US cannot continue indefinitely to borrow roughly $65bn per month to finance its current account deficit. Revisiting a past episode of global imbalances also suggests that exchange rates will play a key role in bringing trading flows back on a sustainable trajectory (see box and chart 7). An across-theboard bounce-back seems implausible at this point – the dollar weakness is here to stay. Scenario 1 – the orderly re-balancing The dollar depreciates (on average) against the currencies of Asia and the Middle East, all countries with sizeable trade surpluses with the US. This happens because policymakers in these countries are no longer willing to tolerate the unwanted side-effects from defending their pegs, i.e. higher inflation. Against the renminbi, the dollar decline gathers pace but is still gradual in nature to soften the blow to the competitiveness of Chinese exporters. For the oil exporting countries in the Middle East, adjustment comes in the form of a one-off revaluation, possibly coinciding with a switch to a peg against a basket of currencies. Completely abandoning the dollar pegs could involve incurring large losses on foreign exchange reserves, a prospect too daunting for these countries. As the dollar adjusts against the pegged currencies, upward pressure on the major floating currencies eases. While remaining strong by historic standards, the euro and the pound retreat below $1.40 and $2.00 respectively. Under this scenario, growth eases somewhat in the countries with appreciating currencies (albeit from very high levels), while a slightly weaker currency stimulates activity in the UK and the Eurozone. Overall, the global economy continues to perform well, and a recession is avoided. We believe that this is both the most desirable and likely outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Scenario 2 – the run on the dollar The countries that currently peg their currencies to the dollar defend their exchange rate regime ferociously, disallowing any appreciation. With the dollar unable to adjust where it most needs to, it continues to adjust where it can. The euro and the pound soar against the dollar, climbing as high as $1.70 and $2.30 respectively. These exchange rates would be roughly consistent with a 5% appreciation on a trade-weighted basis. According to research by the ECB, this would shave 0.4 percentage points off growth in the Eurozone in each of the next three years, a hard blow to an already slowing economy. The hit to the UK economy is 0.3 percentage points lower growth per year based on a similar estimation exercise. Moreover, the dollar rout generates negative momentum for the US economy, leading investors to take money out of the US capital markets. With bond prices sliding, yields rise. This significantly hampers corporate and household expenditure plans as most long-term investment projects, including mortgages, are priced as a premium on government bond yields. To make matters even worse, plunging stock prices reduces households’ net wealth (financial assets make up more than 60% of total household assets in US), which drags private consumption. The rest of the world suffers too as the negative momentum ripples across the global economy in the second round. Stock and bond markets in the rest of the world display a very high degree of correlation with US capital markets. Therefore, a fall in global investment and private consumption spending follows the asset price plunge in the US. World trade also drops significantly. Central Banks in Asia and the Middle East incur huge looses on their stock of dollar-denominated foreign exchange reserves. This scenario entails high odds that the US enters a recession, and significantly slowing global growth as a result (see quote). While conceivable, we do not think that the world economy is likely to cast a vote of no-confidence in the dollar. No country has an interest in seeing this scenario materialise. Conclusions In a significantly more open world economy (see chart 8), exchange rates are a key driver for export performance and economic prosperity. This makes it almost inevitable that policy-makers disagree about the level of ‘fair exchange rates’. Exchange rates that are favourable for the export sector in one country, say China, are almost by definition less supportive of export activities in other regions, say the Eurozone. Quotes are formed in foreign exchange markets, which are huge, with average daily turnover now standing at $3.2 trillion (see chart 9). Speculative momentum and short-term financial flows are therefore important in determining exchange rate levels. Some countries try to insulate their currencies from short-term financial pressure and do not let their currencies float freely (see Appendix . However, this strategy can put severe strains on the domestic economy, as either inflationary pressures build up or domestic corporates are cut off from international financial markets. In the past, this has led in most cases to countries moving to more flexible exchange rate regimes (including periodic revaluations). We expect this to happen sooner rather than later for the countries currently pegging their currencies against the dollar (as outlined in scenario 1), especially as they run significant trade surpluses vis-à-vis the US. For the free-floating currencies, we expect recent exchange rate volatility to continue into 2008. This would actually represent a return to a more normal market, rather than anything out of the ordinary (Chart 10). However, if the dollar is unable to adjust against those currencies it most ‘needs’ to (as outlined in scenario 2), we could see volatility returning to levels last seen at the beginning of the decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Primer on exchange rates What moves currencies? As for any other traded asset, supply and demand determine the price for currencies, i.e. the exchange rate. In foreign exchange markets where currencies are traded, supply and demand are mainly influenced by three factors: international trade, relative rates of return and exchange rate intervention. The link between international trade and exchange rates is straightforward. The UK currently runs a current account surplus with the US, i.e. the UK imports more from the US than vice versa. All else equal, this means that the US must transfer more pounds to the UK than the UK pays dollars to the US. This leads to excess demand for pounds and therefore to a sterling appreciation against the dollar. However, the role of trade in explaining currency movements is relatively minor. The average daily turnover in international foreign exchange markets is $3.2trn, but at most 17% can be linked to international trade in goods and services. The overwhelming majority of foreign exchange transaction is financially motivated. International investors are investing across many currencies in search of high rates of return. An important gauge in identifying attractive currencies from a financial perspective is the short-term interest rate differential. When short-term rates are higher in the UK than in US (and inflation runs at similar levels), as it is currently the case, pound deposits are relatively more attractive. As investors take advantage of the higher interest rate, the pound appreciates. Finally, outright intervention by central banks affects exchange rates. Two motivations for these interventions are worth highlighting. In an effort to insulate their large export sectors from foreign competition in third markets, governments in developing countries have often intervened in foreign exchange markets to keep their currency at low levels (e.g. China). This makes their exports cheaper and therefore more competitive. The other motivation is to eliminate exchange rate risk, which is particularly important for oil-producing countries as the price of oil is denominated in dollars. How does this help to understand what is happening to the dollar? The US has been running large current account deficits for more than a decade. It currently stands at almost $800bn, or 5.6% of GDP. This creates a structurally strong supply of dollars in foreign exchange markets. Until recently, this supply was roughly matched by investor’s appetite for dollar denominated assets, preventing a more rapid decline. (Appetite was strong in spite of exceptionally low real rates of return on dollar-denominated bonds in recent years). However, with the Federal Reserve slashing rates by 75bps since September, the attractiveness of US bonds has dwindled further. There are also indications that international investors are starting to diversify their asset portfolio into other currencies, notably the euro (see chart 11). This holds particularly true for Asian and OPEC central banks, which hold the bulk of US assets abroad. A large exposure to these assets leaves them vulnerable to a weaker US economy and significant depreciations of the dollar. The net result of a diminished willingness to buy new dollar assets and of portfolio reshufflings is downward pressure on the dollar. The dollar decline has been asymmetric. The euro, the pound and the Canadian dollar shoulder most of the burden of appreciation. This is because the dollar cannot adjust where it most needs to – the majority of Asian and oil-exporting countries with large bilateral trade surpluses with the US peg or manage their currencies vis-à-vis the dollar (see chart 12). Instead of letting their currencies appreciate, Central Banks in these countries are soaking up the excess supply of dollars, leading to unprecedented reserve accumulation (see chart 13). However, the pace of dollar accumulation has probably slowed in the recent months and will continue to do so as Central Banks gradually allow their currencies to strengthen against the dollar. Bretton Woods II (the dollar bloc) Pegged against $ Status China Crawling $-peg. Continues to appreciate – albeit very slowly. Egypt Appreciated since August 2007. Hong Kong Inflationary pressures. Under speculative pressure. Likely to widen zone in which the currency can fluctuate in 2008/09. Oman Intact. Qatar Inflationary pressures. Saudi Arabia Interest differential with US widening. Inflationary pressures. Large holdings of $-assets, resulting in significant capital losses if revaluation occurs. Unlikely to come off $-peg. United Arab Emirates Attempts to diversify official foreign exchange reserves. Inflationary pressures. Likely candidate to drop hard $-peg. Venezuela Intact. Vietnam Depreciated slightly in 2007. Managed against $ Argentina Depreciated in 2007. India Appreciated significantly in 2007. Kuwait Switched from hard $-peg to peg against a currency basket in May 2007. Malaysia Appreciated in 2007. Nigeria Appreciated in 2007. Russia Appreciated in 2007. Thailand Appreciated in 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Thread killer Naam strikes again! A good read though, what was the source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 Thread killer Naam strikes again! A good read though, what was the source? = Credit Suisse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tattoodrob Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 The Big question is:WILL THE LADIES IN PATTAYA adjust their rates to compensate for GPB deflation? maybe if they knew what GPB was....even im confused........does it stand for General Penis Boner deflation ...if it does then im sure there could be a discount negotiated unless the GPB goes up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tattoodrob Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 I'm all for an increase in the GBP if it gets rid of some of the tattooed football hooligans and other assorted trash on budget holiday. only the hooligans and trash on hols......what about us tattood hooligan trash that live here...ooops i mean what about the ones that live here...... seriously it wouldnt affect holiday makers too much as they spend stupid amounts on booze/birds as it is .............spoiling it for the rest of us keeniows living here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tattoodrob Posted January 3, 2008 Share Posted January 3, 2008 im no expert..........really.............but hasnt it been going up and down for years like this.of course we always want it up above 70........i also want to win the lottery....etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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