Elizabethan Restaurant

[JuniorExPat]

I could have sworn this was the Breakfast thread!!

Apologies for continuing down the off-topic path in my previous post.

Beef and Stout pie sounds great as does Welsh Rarebit. Does anyone know their opening times?

JxP

Edited January 11, 2008 by JuniorExPat

[anonymouse]

I could have sworn this was the Breakfast thread!!

Apologies for continuing down the off-topic path in my previous thread.

Beef and Stout pie sounds great as does Welsh Rarebit. Does anyone know their opening times?

JxP

Glad were back on topic,

The food does sound good, just not sure about the location and the demand outside of Chiang Mai's British expat contingent.

Sorry don't know the opening times.

[Ulysses G.]

I could have sworn this was the Breakfast thread!!

Apologies for continuing down the off-topic path in my previous thread.

Beef and Stout pie sounds great as does Welsh Rarebit. Does anyone know their opening times?

JxP

Glad were back on topic,

The food does sound good, just not sure about the location and the demand outside of Chiang Mai's British expat contingent.

Sorry don't know the opening times.

My family was from New England and we used a lot of British terms and ate a lot of food that originated in England. The kids often ate what we called Welsh "Rabbit" which was a can of Campbell's Tomato soup and cheese on toast. I'm not sure how much it had in common with the real thing, but I loved it!

[JuniorExPat]

Welsh rarebit in our house was cheese (Cheddar or thereabouts), mustard, dark beer, Worcestershire sauce, salt and pepper all mixed and melted and poured onto a wedge of toast then grilled - Mum's from the valleys so I've never questioned the authenticity of the recipe!

JxP

[Ulysses G.]

Sounds good, but no tomato at all?

[miltonbentley]

If they have roasted starling and stuffed dormouse, just try and keep me away!

I've never got on with dormouse, all those little bones make then too crunchy for my pallet. Roasted pheasant is a winner though.

Sounds good, but no tomato at all? huh.gif

Definitely no tomato in Welsh Rarebit UG - must have been some local variation. Perhaps the recipes got mixed up on the Mayflower.

[JuniorExPat]

Sounds good, but no tomato at all?

Yes, I forgot that - slices of tomato placed on top and around before putting it under the grill but as I remember that was an English addition - my father being English!

JxP

Edited January 11, 2008 by JuniorExPat

[Ulysses G.]

Does anyone have a recommendation for Welsh Rarebit in Chiang Mai? I would like to try the real thing.

[miltonbentley]

Can't recall seeing it on a menu here. It's very simple to make though

[JuniorExPat]

Does anyone have a recommendation for Welsh Rarebit in Chiang Mai? I would like to try the real thing.

I'll let you know when my mother comes to visit!

JxP

[JuniorExPat]

Welsh Rarebit.

JxP

[Johpa]

Saw in yesterdays CM Mail an advert and a unbiased review for an Elizabethan English restaurant just opened near Rimping condo.

I'm looking forward to giving the place a try and wish them the best of luck but imho they must be either incredibly naive, have balls bigger than King Kong or know something I don't about the demand for 16th Century English food in Chiang Mai if they think this place will last.

Why limit the rhetorical question to only 16th Century English food?

Well, lets face it, anything is better than the burgeoning supply of <deleted> yank crap in this fair city

You are absolutely correct there. Alas, apart from fish and chips, the Poms haven't come up with anything better.

[Rinrada]

TRIPE...........................and onions

600ml (1 pint) Milk

450g (1lb) Dressed Tripe, washed

25g (1oz) Butter

3 Medium Onions, sliced

3 tbsp Plain Flour

1 Bay Leaf

Pinch Grated Nutmeg

Fresh Parsley

How to cook....................can also do it as a CURRY.......

Place the tripe in a saucepan and cover with cold water.

Bring to the boil.

Remove from the heat, drain.

Rinse under cold running water.

Cut into 2.5cm (1 inch) pieces.

Place the tripe, milk, onions, bay leaf and nutmeg into a saucepan.

Bring to the boil, cover and simmer for 2 hours or until tender.

Remove from the heat, strain and reserve the liquid.

Keep the tripe and onions warm.

Melt the butter in the saucepan, stir in the flour and cook gently for 2 minute, stirring constantly.

Make the liquid up to 600ml (1 pint) with milk or cream, gradually add to the saucepan, stirring constantly.

Bring to the boil and simmer until the sauce thickens.

Garnish with parsley.

Serve with potatoes and seasonal vegetables.

[Rasseru]

I went to the restaurant last night and thought the food was delicious, much better than I had expected (I mean, 400 year old British food? Hello?). The portions were very generous too, which actually made for a bit of a problem: I left stuffed to the gills.

[Ulysses G.]

Saw in yesterdays CM Mail an advert and a unbiased review for an Elizabethan English restaurant just opened near Rimping condo.

Where is Rimping Condo?

[Rasseru]

Saw in yesterdays CM Mail an advert and a unbiased review for an Elizabethan English restaurant just opened near Rimping condo.

Where is Rimping Condo?

If you cross the Nakhonping Bridge over the Ping River, heading west, and turn left at the intersection immediately after crossing the bridge, you will be on Charoenrat Road, and you will find Rimping Condo on your left about 70 meters from the intersection. If you continue in the same direction for another 100 meters or so, you will find the Elizabethan English restaurant on the right side of the road.

[Ulysses G.]

Thanks much!

[Ricardo]

Sounds good, but no tomato at all?

Yes, I forgot that - slices of tomato placed on top and around before putting it under the grill but as I remember that was an English addition - my father being English!

JxP

A smear of Marmite also adds a certain je-ne-sais-quoi ! It bubbles lovely under the grill.

[Flatouthruthefog]

Saw in yesterdays CM Mail an advert and a unbiased review for an Elizabethan English restaurant just opened near Rimping condo.

Where is Rimping Condo?

If you cross the Nakhonping Bridge over the Ping River, heading west, and turn left at the intersection immediately after crossing the bridge, you will be on Charoenrat Road, and you will find Rimping Condo on your left about 70 meters from the intersection. If you continue in the same direction for another 100 meters or so, you will find the Elizabethan English restaurant on the right side of the road.

Thanks, Rass, but my compass says cross the bridge to the east (ie Doi Suthep behind you). Then turn left. Then your directions are perfect.

[Rasseru]

Saw in yesterdays CM Mail an advert and a unbiased review for an Elizabethan English restaurant just opened near Rimping condo.

Where is Rimping Condo?

If you cross the Nakhonping Bridge over the Ping River, heading west, and turn left at the intersection immediately after crossing the bridge, you will be on Charoenrat Road, and you will find Rimping Condo on your left about 70 meters from the intersection. If you continue in the same direction for another 100 meters or so, you will find the Elizabethan English restaurant on the right side of the road.

Thanks, Rass, but my compass says cross the bridge to the east (ie Doi Suthep behind you). Then turn left. Then your directions are perfect.

You are absolutely right, FOTTF, about crossing the bridge heading east, not west. Thanks for the correction.

[MaeRimMan]

Sorry, their website says it is closed .

Looks like someone is going to have to swing by.

Nobody needs to swing by.

It says the Queen victoria website is closed. Website. Get it!!!

I and Austhaied have both told you within the last 2 days that it is open. What does that suggest? (winker).

That it closed after you were last there possibly?

The Gatehouse - which is affiliated - just shut down a few days ago and I've seen that with my own eyes which is why I believed the rumors about the Vic and the website seemed to confirm it.

The Gatehouse hasn't 'shut down' its closed for refurbishment and will be open again in 2 or 3 weeks I gather

The Queen Vic IS still open (I was there yesterday) but there is a serious ownership dispute which is ongoing (as the website link states) hopefully it wont close down.

As for breakfasts:

The Olde Bell serves the best British styyle breakfast at the moment IMHO - great Sausages, Brit bacon, Black pudding, Bubble and Squeak and lots of other things that most places don't do.

I also heard that the Red Lion has started or is going to start Breakfasts soon.

so there are several choices around town

[neilrob]

The Elizabethan is worth trying. Unless a lot of people do try it then it hasn't much chance of survival I think, given its location and the limited market. It would be a pity if they do go under, since the owners are obviously really trying hard to do the best they can.

Neil

[Rasseru]

The Elizabethan is worth trying. Unless a lot of people do try it then it hasn't much chance of survival I think, given its location and the limited market. It would be a pity if they do go under, since the owners are obviously really trying hard to do the best they can.

Neil

I agree that they are trying hard, but I'll add what for me, at least, is an even better reason to try it: the food is delicious.

[Rasseru]

The idea of an Elizabethan restaurant in Chiangmai was bothering me. Today it came to a head, and some googling solved it. An Englishman named Ralph Fitch visited in Chiangmai in the late 1580s, according to the record books the first European to come to Chiangmai, so it is only right somehow that there should be an Elizabethan restaurant here now.

[sylviex]

The idea of an Elizabethan restaurant in Chiangmai was bothering me. Today it came to a head, and some googling solved it. An Englishman named Ralph Fitch visited in Chiangmai in the late 1580s, according to the record books the first European to come to Chiangmai, so it is only right somehow that there should be an Elizabethan restaurant here now.

Interesting; kinda bothered me too.

We trust their ingredients are contemporary.

[Ricardo]

Can anybody who's been there recommend any particular dishes, and give some idea of prices, as it gets kinda costly when the whole family insist upon accompanying me to try out new places ! I've tried sneaking off quietly, but the car-engine is a dead giveaway, also the 'rumbling' tummy and happy chortle !

[Rinrada]

always go down well....

[JuniorExPat]

Get well soon!

JxP

PS: I didn't have you down as a cockney.

[FarangCravings]

As it happens I am also working on a English food establishment and certainly know there is a limited market, the food is going to be as close to as home as it can and a central location which is easy to get to.

Luckily my wifes thai familly has the location near night bazzar (and I dont have to pay rent they are running the thai food side of things and all I am doing is adding english food that i would like to eat and I guarantee it will be just like home.

Queen Vic and the likes i beleive can be quite expensive to eat at (relative to eating thai food) So I will focus on the poorer expat crowd that likes to eat English food but is cost concious.

I love thai food but every now and again you need a good ENGLISH Curry or a shepards pie or fish and chips etc and thats what I am going to be adding.

Already sourcing the meats and have some very good sausages which are really quite good not as good as Wall's Pork Sausages but the best english style I have found in CM also have good english Back bacon and when I open I challenge anyone to say my Brekkies aint right up there with queen vic etc LOL.

My Motto will be ENGLISH FOOD AT THAI PRICES (or as close as i can get to thai prices LOL) No really since the thai familly already has the location and fully staffed I will have minimal expenses and beleive I can keep the prices very low while keeping the quality up there.

I'll keep ya posted

P.S My Dad does excellent welshrabbit (in my opinion its all about the cheese

Edited January 23, 2008 by FarangCravings

[bsided69]

Seems to me that all the Brit restaurants keep closing down: Queen Vic, Hungry Horse, The Gatehouse. Maybe <deleted> is in the eye of the beholder!

The Queen Vic isn't closed down. (why do you persist with this one)

The Gatehouse was doing Fondue (that's not British, by the way)

The Pub is still open (20+ years)

The Olde Bell is doing fine

Blackpool Bar and various back-soi places selling English food ares still open.

And The Red Lion .... still thriving after 10 years!!!

Rumour has it that the Gatehouse closed down because of a certain newcomer to the land of smiles thought he could talk to his staff like a sargeant Major talks to his troops on the parade ground. As most of us know the only thing you get when you shout and swear at Thai's is a sore throat, or your head rolled around by a group of Tuk Tuk drivers. It doesnt matter how much you pay, if you treat your staff like dogs they will leave and you cannot afford to loose good staff in CM when your a new place, and that place lost 3 good staff in the first week.

I like a good bitch and moan about all the things that are wrong here, but it amazes me how dumb and stubborn some Farangs can be when opening up new restuarant-bars. No names, but theres a bar I went to where the owner spent a couple of million making it look good and then decided he wasnt going to have UBC as he doesnt like football. He also plays music from his youth (He must be 60 ish) all night. Never seen more than a couple of space monkeys sharing a Chang in there. What does he think when he has to keep digging into his savings every month to pay the bills?????