kriswillems Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 When I married with my Thai wife I had to make legalized copies of our Thai marriage certificate at the city hall in Thailand and then go to the ministry of foreign affairs in BKK again to get them legalized again (legalization of the signature). Now my child was just born (in Thailand) and I need legalized copies of the birth certificate (for use at the embassy). Somebody at the embassy told me that it's not necessary to go to the city hall. I could immediately go to foreign affairs in Bangkok with the original birth certificate and get legalized copies there. She said that besides legalizing signatures, foreign affairs can also make legalized copies. Can somebody confirm this? I wouldn't like to loose 1 day traveling up and down to Bangkok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangmoo Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 When I married with my Thai wife I had to make legalized copies of our Thai marriage certificate at the city hall in Thailand and then go to the ministry of foreign affairs in BKK again to get them legalized again (legalization of the signature).Now my child was just born (in Thailand) and I need legalized copies of the birth certificate (for use at the embassy). Somebody at the embassy told me that it's not necessary to go to the city hall. I could immediately go to foreign affairs in Bangkok with the original birth certificate and get legalized copies there. She said that besides legalizing signatures, foreign affairs can also make legalized copies. Can somebody confirm this? I wouldn't like to loose 1 day traveling up and down to Bangkok. At first Kongratulation to Mother and Father my Son born last year you dont have to go to the Foreign Affair you Child is Thai you dont have to legalized him in Thailand. Wat you need for the Embassy is Birthcertivicat in Thai and Translation in your Language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I suspect that is probably what you need - a legalized translation of the birth certificate. You would go to a translation service and have it translated and either let them legalize it at MFA, or go yourself to MFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriswillems Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 My embassy told me the step were as follows: - get certified true copies of the original birth certificate at foreign affairs - get a translation by a recognized translation office - get the certified true copy and the translation legalized by the embassy But with the birth certificate (6 years ago) of my Thai wife I did like this: - get certified true copies at the city hall (amphur) - get the certified true copy legalized by the ministry of foreign affairs - get a translation by a recognized translation office - get the certified true copy and the translation legalized by the embassy So, now there seems to be 1 step less. And I just want to sure that foreign affairs can make certified copies. So, I don't need to travel back and go to the city hall to get the certified copies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangmoo Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 The Birthcertificate you get on your Ampehr iven there you get red big stamp you dont have to go to MFA, from this you need a translation in your Language. Your Embassy have to legalize this paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 The Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Department of Consular Affairs, 123 Chaeng Wattana Road, Lak See Bangkok 10120 Tel 02 981 7171 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyls Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Are there any agencies that are able to do the translation-legalisation at MFA-legalisation at Embassy while my Thai wife and I are in Europe? We're gonna move to my home country and my Thai wife might need a recent, less than 6 months old, legalised and translated birth certificate several times. It'll be too expensive for the whole family to go to Thailand each time for just a couple of stamps. It's not possible to register her birth certificate in The Netherlands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 The Thai embassy can make legal copites of the birth certificate in Thai. If the child has nver been to Thailand you can also get a Thai passport for the child. Contact them for info. Link to embassy website: http://www.thaiembassy.org/hague Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 You can have the birth certificate registered in the Netherlands at the city hall in The Hague: For procedure and required documents look here: http://www.denhaag.nl/smartsite.html?id=21373 Foreign birth certificates can only be registered there. You will need to have the Birth Cetificate legalised. Look for the procedure here: http://www.netherlandsembassy.in.th/consul..._in/legalisatie Translation of the document can be done to English only. You can have that done in at a translation agency oppoite the Dutch embassy or opposite the Thai consulair affairs department. You can not have the document legalised in the Netherlands by the Thai embassy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyls Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Mario and Ubonjoe, the birth certificate is my Thai wife's. She's got the Thai nationality only and therefore her birth certificate can not be registered in The Hague, because registering there only applies to Dutch citizens or refugees. In case of our marriage certificate we had it registered at The Hague, because I'm of Dutch nationality. Perhaps my post wasn't clear, but I meant in the case when we're not in Thailand and we need my Thai wife's birth certificate translated and legalised by MFA and Dutch Embassy in Bangkok. Can it be done by an agency in Bangkok, through EMS, so that we don't have to go there ourselves? I know the procedure of doing it ourselves, that's just a matter of handing in the birth certificate and translation at MFA first and then at the Dutch Embassy. At the moment we're still in Thailand, but I want to know what to do in the future when the current birth certificate has expired and we're in The Netherlands. Birth certificates won't be accepted by government institutions when they're more than 6 months old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Most reputable translation services can do the translation and get the MFA done for you. I am sure if you made some type of arrangement with them it could be done by EMS. The Dutch embassy could be where the problem is in doing it that way. The other problem might be paying for the service. I don't understand how a birth certificate could only be good for 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyls Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 (edited) There's some discussion going on on Dutch foreign partner forums regarding the length of validity of already legalised documents. Some write the same as you, Ubonjoe, that they can't imagine a birth certificate only to be valid for a mere 6 months. It's unfortunately the way a lot of municipalities work and doesn't make sense to me either. It seems that the 6 months concern the validity of the legalisation stamps. In case of a Apostille-stamp the validity will be for good, but since Thailand is not a member of the Apostille-treaty, we have to make do with only legalisation. Perhaps it's possible to authorise a translation service with a power of attorney to have the document legalised at the embassy as well. Someone experience with this? I can't find any details on how to do that. What if a relative of my wife goes to the embassy in Bangkok? Does he/she need to show any evidence regarding his/her relationship to my wife? Edited December 17, 2008 by hyls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Sorry for the misunderstanding. Indeed you can not have your Thai wife's BC registered. I have to agree that a legalised document is only valid for a limited period. However in the case of a birth certificate I'm not sure, as the information on it is not subject to change. I believe you can have the documents certified by EMS through a translation agency. Contact the one across the Dutch embassy. The main problem will be if they need your wife's passport or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I think you need to get the some answers from the embassy on power of attorney and etc. A family member could get the translation and MFA handled. What I don't really understand is the birth certificate requirement. In most countries you don't need it if you have a passport to verify your age and citizensip. I can't remember the last time that I needed one or even had a copy handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 …Perhaps it's possible to authorise a translation service with a power of attorney to have the document legalised at the embassy as well. Someone experience with this? I can't find any details on how to do that.What if a relative of my wife goes to the embassy in Bangkok? Does he/she need to show any evidence regarding his/her relationship to my wife? “Legalisation” of a translation of your wife’s birth certificate does not require the presence of your wife, nor a power of attorney. “Legalisation” means that the MFA will certify the authenticity of the translator’s signature. Nothing more and nothing less. -- Maestro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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