Cancer Treatment And Remission

[tux]

Hello out there,

does anyone know something about Cancer Treatment and remission in Chiang Mai.I have all my results diagnosis and treatment here.I'm an adult, male.It's skincancer.

Thanks in advance for your answers

Edited July 5, 2008 by tux

[sylviex]

Tux, sorry to hear of this.

Do you live in Thailand ? It seems you are considering coming to CM specifically for the treatment. Is that right ?

At what stage is your cancer ? Will you be needing surgery ?

I am sure you will soon get some replies from people with experience of cancer treatment in CM.

[bluejays]

You may try to check it out : http://balavi.com/Eng/index.asp hope it will help.

[Mapguy]

In this day and age, this seems to be a very good topic to explore.

When you talk about cancer, of course, you are talking about a broad range of types and treatments. It is hard to get a handle on it. Take the "skin cancer" the OP talked about: there are three major types, each requiring different types of treatment and each type of cancer having more than one type of treatment.

The whole topic of cancer and various treatments is HUGE. Maybe the only thing that can be done here is to talk about personal experiences at various Chiang Mai and Bangkok hospitals to identify competent physicians.

I regret I can not add much. The only case in Chiang Mai of which I know more than a little bit was one in which the patient was diagnosed (correctly) at Ram and surgery was not recommended since the cancer was too far advanced. There was a "desperation move," to the Special Medical Service Center at Maharaj (spelling?) for oncology, but I suspect that was more out of love than a grasp of reality. The patient died within very few weeks.

There are two key questions, perhaps. In Chiang Mai who would be recommended as good cancer surgeons and who would be recommended as good oncologists? And remember, that is not necessarily an easy question. for example, a good surgical dermatologist would be more than capable of taking care of skin cancers but not other types. Then, also, there are radiologists and oncologists. All this can get more than a bit rarefied.

Chiang Mai is a small city. Although the medical facilities available are quite good, the number of specialists is necessarily limited. Bangkok is indeed a different story. So some people might wish to report on treatment there.

[sylviex]

Mapguy has raised many points worth considering.

Behind my own comments and questions were the same concerns. Chiang Mai might not be the best place for treatment of carcinomas of "caucasian" skin. The likelihood of finding a specialist with much experience of typical caucasian skin carcinomas plus the ability to treat them effectively would seem smaller in CM than in BKK. However, people may come foward with personal stories of good treatment here, so it's indeed worth asking.

If, after a week or so, you receive no helpful replies, I suggest you ask this topic to be moved to the Health forum. In fact, if I were you, I'd post my questions there now.

[maesai]

At Suan Dok I was diagnosed with a very aggressive form of stage 3 non-hodgkins lymphoma. I asked the Doctor where she would go if she was in my position. She said she would seek treatment at Chula. That is where I went. The care was excellent, but it would have been difficult if I didn't speak Thai. My Doctor at Chula speaks english very well, but I spent extensive time as an inpatient and the nurse's english skills is limited.

It has been close to two years since remission. Knocking on wood daily.

[tux]

At Suan Dok I was diagnosed with a very aggressive form of stage 3 non-hodgkins lymphoma. I asked the Doctor where she would go if she was in my position. She said she would seek treatment at Chula. That is where I went. The care was excellent, but it would have been difficult if I didn't speak Thai. My Doctor at Chula speaks english very well, but I spent extensive time as an inpatient and the nurse's english skills is limited.

It has been close to two years since remission. Knocking on wood daily.

Hello maesai,

thanks for your answer.Please tell me, where Chula is.I'm far out in Chiang Dao and not too familiar with hospitals in Chiang Mai.

[MaximumSecurity]

This may not be totally relevant but it may get some valuable information to someone who needs it.

My doctor in Hawaii, who had also studied Aryuvedic medicine, was a vegetarian and practiced yoga for years got cancer. I saw him the day he was leaving for a clinic in Germany. He was shrivelled, yellow and could barely walk or talk. I didn't hear from him for months. Then I was in the health food store and he came running in, in jogging gear, all sweated up but glowing with perfect health.

So this clinic worked as close to a miracle as I've ever seen:

Wolfgang Scheef, Dr. med., at the Janker Klinik in Bonn, Germany and this is an article about my doctor: http://www.cancerdecisions.com/042402.html

[maesai]

At Suan Dok I was diagnosed with a very aggressive form of stage 3 non-hodgkins lymphoma. I asked the Doctor where she would go if she was in my position. She said she would seek treatment at Chula. That is where I went. The care was excellent, but it would have been difficult if I didn't speak Thai. My Doctor at Chula speaks english very well, but I spent extensive time as an inpatient and the nurse's english skills is limited.

It has been close to two years since remission. Knocking on wood daily.

Hello maesai,

thanks for your answer.Please tell me, where Chula is.I'm far out in Chiang Dao and not too familiar with hospitals in Chiang Mai.

Sorry I wasn't clear. I was referring to Chulalongkorn hospital in Bangkok. I decided it was worth going for treatment in Bangkok since my Chiang Mai doc suggested it. Good luck.

[PeaceBlondie]

My partner is a 40-year old native of Chiang Mai, without education past high school. He thinks the Royal with the doctor of science degree is bringing modern treatment of cancer to Thailand, but I suspect it is a slow process. A teaching associate of mine got cancer (not of the skin) in northern Thailand, and she quickly got on a plane to the USA, where she received advanced treatment. I suspect Chiang Mai does not come up high on the list of advanced treatment centers.

[Rotweiler]

Nonsense! After experiencing first-hand the skill-levels of CM medical facilities - the RAM and University Cancer Research and Treatment Center - and compared them to North American equivalents, CM facilities, Doctors and skill levels are right up there with the best in North America!

...................... A teaching associate of mine got cancer (not of the skin) in northern Thailand, and she quickly got on a plane to the USA, where she received advanced treatment. I suspect Chiang Mai does not come up high on the list of advanced treatment centers.

[maesai]

My partner is a 40-year old native of Chiang Mai, without education past high school. He thinks the Royal with the doctor of science degree is bringing modern treatment of cancer to Thailand, but I suspect it is a slow process. A teaching associate of mine got cancer (not of the skin) in northern Thailand, and she quickly got on a plane to the USA, where she received advanced treatment. I suspect Chiang Mai does not come up high on the list of advanced treatment centers.

When I was undergoing treatment in Bangkok, I was also consulting with a cancer specialist in the SF Bay Area by email. The chemo regimen I was receiving was the same one the Doctor in the US would have used. Also, Chula has all the latest in imaging - CT, PET, MRI, ultrasound. As someone that is self insured, I am grateful for the fine and affordable care I have received at Chula.

[PeaceBlondie]

Nonsense! After experiencing first-hand the skill-levels of CM medical facilities - the RAM and University Cancer Research and Treatment Center - and compared them to North American equivalents, CM facilities, Doctors and skill levels are right up there with the best in North America!

...................... A teaching associate of mine got cancer (not of the skin) in northern Thailand, and she quickly got on a plane to the USA, where she received advanced treatment. I suspect Chiang Mai does not come up high on the list of advanced treatment centers.

Rotweiler, that sounds good to hear. Maybe Saudi Princes, Ted Kennedy, my good friend with prostate cancer, etc., should have cancelled their treatments at Sloan-Kettering, M. D. Anderson, Duke, etc., and flown their Lear Jets to Chiang Mai.

[tracker]

this is probably not popular here, but i'm gonna say it anyway:

chemo itself creates cancer. Most doctors know this but don't tell. The internet is full of alternative cures which work. I suggest you start reading upon the topic.

My sister, now, after her second round of chemos (cancer started 4 years ago) just started on alternative medicine. Cancer is spread around her whole body...

Please note, I am not biased bcs of mys sister's situation, I just read a lot on the topic in the last 4 years. I suggest you can start with watching the youtube video "run from the cure". (on www.phoenixtears.ca)

[healthytips]

Hello out there,

does anyone know something about Cancer Treatment and remission in Chiang Mai.I have all my results diagnosis and treatment here.I'm an adult, male.It's skincancer.

Thanks in advance for your answers

Here is an article on Skin Cancer. Hope this will help you.

Sara spends much of her summer near the beach. She lives in a mild climate and is very athletic. She loves to swim, bike and play games outdoors. Sara knows the dangers of the sun and so she opts for tanning salons to get her 'golden glow' while being sure to apply sunscreen every day before heading out.

Joseph lives in a cooler, northern climate. The summers can be very humid, but most of the year is mild or even below freezing during the harshest winter months. The beach has never been much of a draw for him and he spends most of his time doing indoor activities or at his job. Joseph doesn't worry about sunscreen and only had one sunburn that he can remember and that was when he was a child.

Which of these examples do you most associate yourself with? Did you know that Sara and Joseph are both at risk of developing skin cancer? We have all heard the warnings about the dangers of sun exposure. We know all about the importance of wearing sunscreen and hats. But are YOU protected from skin cancer? Consider these myths and facts:

MYTH ONE: Tanning Beds are Safer than the Sun

20 minutes of exposure in a tanning bed is roughly equivalent to four hours in the sun. Although sun beds use UVA rather than UVB rays, 'The Skin Cancer Answer' states that "UV-A penetrates more deeply into the skin than UV-B, can cause skin cancer, and may suppress the immune system."

MYTH TWO: Wearing Sunscreen at the Beach is Protection

85 percent of UV rays can even make it through on cloudy days. That means you are equally at risk in the car, walking the dog or letting your children out to play at any time of year, even when you're not at the beach. Of course, you are usually less attired at the beach and so covering up is recommended even when wearing sunscreen. Sunscreen also wears off with sweat and water and should always be applied every two hours or after getting wet.

MYTH THREE: Taking Care Of Your Skin Now Will Protect You

Sadly, skin cancer can take 20 or more years to develop. The Skin Cancer Foundation states that most people receive about 80 percent of their lifetime sun exposure before the age of 18. Just one blistering sunburn in childhood is estimated to double the risk of melanoma later in life. Taking better care now will reduce the risk, but not eliminate the damage already done.

MYTH FOUR: Having a Tan Means You're More Protected

Dark skinned individuals are less likely to develop cancer, but tanned skin is actually damaged skin. Repeated tanning injures the skin and increases the risk of skin cancer.

So how do you plan to protect your family this year? Some suggestions are to limit exposure to the sun, especially for infants. Examine your skin for early signs of damage. Use a sunscreen of SPF 15 or higher and apply it at least 30 minutes before exposure and every two hours after that. Teach your children good safety habits and be sure you and they are covered up when outdoors. Have fun and be safe.

Article Author: Travis Waack

Article Source: Depositarticles.com

[Sheryl]

Chemo is not usually required for skin cancer and nothing in the OP suggests it is needed in this case.

I do not recommend CM for skin cancer treatment. even in Bangkok there aren't many good choices doctor wise for the simple reason that skin cancer is comparatjvely rare in Asians. Sop you need a dermatologist who has trained and worked in the US.

Samitivej seems to have the most to offer in that regard. Dr. Paritas Sukriket there has been favorably recommended by another TV member treated for skin cancer. You can check out his qualifications and those of other dermatologists st Samitivej at

http://www.samitivej.co.th/samitivej_front...?HospitalList=1