fishbone Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 2 Rottweilers maul 2-year-old girl to death Published on August 14, 2008 Nakhon Ratchasima - Two Rottweilers of a Dutch man mauled his two-year-old half Thai daughter to death early Thursday morning, police said. The girl, Romklao Ploo, was attacked and killed inside her house compound in Nakhon Ratchasima's Muang district at 1 am. The mother, Jintana Ploo, 42, was severely injured when trying to save her daughter from the two dogs. She told police that she put down her daughter on the floor to unlock the front door of her house and the dogs jumped on the girl. She said her Dutch husband raised the two dogs to guard the house after burglars broke in several times. The husband is mostly working in Holland and visits her and daughter once in a while, she said. The Nation I just read the article and i feel very sorry for the family. But how can these happend ? Why people growing so dangerous dogs and have no experience how to handle them. I'm horriefied that there is no control . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldenbead Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 That poor child! And poor parents. This is a heartbreaking story. RIP little Romklao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issanpaul Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 That poor child! And poor parents. This is a heartbreaking story. RIP little Romklao. Yes i second that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carib Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 (edited) She put the kid on the floor, `maybe` one of the dogs stood over the kid and she tried to get up. Seeing it from a dogs point of view this is not submissive behavior by the kid. When the kid is on the floor the head of the dog is over that of hers, so the dog is number one, alpha, at that moment. Look what dogs do when they meet, they try to put their head over the neck of the other dog, if they succeed, they are in charge, they are the winner, they know who is boss. When you have a well socialized dog, it will stop playing or fighting when the other dog gives up and lays still on it`s back. Children don't `surrender`, they don't lay still. Dogs don't understand. If one dog attacks, so will the other. I am not saying this is what really happened, we will never know I think, but lots of dog attacks stem from these differences in interpretation of the signals. Human versus animal. My stupid theory is completely lost if you really try to imagine what happened. RIP. Edited August 14, 2008 by Carib Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiggy Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 I cant imagine the terror the little girl and her mother experienced. RIP little one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergen Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Sad story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poshthai Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 r.i.p little one,and hope the dogs are put down quickly becasue they have tasted blood now and are no good as house dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuian Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 .....she tried to get up. Seeing it from a dogs point of view this is not submissive behavior by the kid. When the kid is on the floor the head of the dog is over that of hers, so the dog is number one, alpha, at that moment. RIP. You got a point there somewhere that is why I never, ever would have ANY animal around which could one day try and challenge me, just by it's size, weight and power...! This would very likely not happened with some thai dog like "tong daeng"... or really well trained dog - heaven knows very sad story. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
percy2 Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Very sad story indeed. Unfortunately its inevitable that this thread will end up with people fighting over the rights and wrongs of owning large dogs. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUDAS Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Reading that sent a shiver down my spine. So sad. RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingdongrb Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Having a two year old daughter myself I am at lost for words. I feel sadness for the family. May the little Princess rest in peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizzi39 Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Very very sad story. gave me a sick feeling in my stomach thinking about my little one. my heart goes out to the family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcom Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 These are dangerous dogs that should never be around children. Ditto Dobermans & Pit Bulls. Same same loaded gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maigo6 Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Very sad tale, I tried putting this in General Topics but it was closed.....as it's already running in The Isaan Forum where only a few will read it. RIP to the girl and I hope people who live outside of Isaan will realize the dangers that can arise with powerful dogs versus small children. I'm very surprised the moderrator wanted this out of general topics as it could well affect many people in Thailand, not just those that read the Isaan Forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcom Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 It belongs in "News Clippings". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maigo6 Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 It belongs in "News Clippings". Maybe it does. General Topics is reserved for Thai Bashing and " What colour is your wifes skin " threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilHarries Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 RIP to the little girl and condolences to her parents. I don't really understand why people think you must have powerful dogs as guard dogs. What you need is noisy dogs. But whatever you have a drug laced piece of meat usually deals with it. In fact the best guard dogs are geese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nienke Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Well, I came through general to this thread, and possible so will others. I heard the horrific news this morning from my staff, who got it from the TV. How this most horrible accident could have happen we can only guess. Is it possible the dogs weren't socialized with the child? Or maybe the mother and child came home after dark, went into the garden to their house and the dogs didn't recognize them immediately? It is of extreme importance to call your dogs BEFORE going through the gate especially after dark. Many people assume that the dogs will immediately recognize the owners, but that's not always the case. A couple of years ago I came home during the day after a visit to my home country. In stead of coming with our car or motorbike I was dropped of by a red taxi and walk the last part home. My most beloved boxer (RIP), with whom I had a very good bond, did not recognized me immediately and started furiously making alarm. Once I called her she was all happiness. Another example of an old lady I knew. She had a huge wall around her house and the gate was made of thick teak wood with a little door in it. One evening she came home after dark, opened the door and was attacked by their dog. Luckily she understood the situation immediately and didn't blame the dog. Because it was dark, she came home walking and the dog couldn't see nor smell her, he didn't know it was her and thought it was a stranger. No matter what the story of the little girl is, it is definitely very much heartbreaking. My heart goes out to the father mother and rest of the family of this child. My sincere condolences. Little Romklao, Rest in Peace. Nienke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garro Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Horrible, horrible, horrible. The poor thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beacher Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 RIP to the little girl and condolences to her parents.I don't really understand why people think you must have powerful dogs as guard dogs. What you need is noisy dogs. But whatever you have a drug laced piece of meat usually deals with it. In fact the best guard dogs are geese. This opinion seems reasonable to me. Hopefully people will see the sound logic of your suggestion and think twice before getting notoriously aggressive dogs to help guard their homes. It's tempting to go into a bit of a tirade about irresponsible dog owners, but I'll forgo that aspect of the story and only express my deepest sympathy for the poor mother who must be absolutely frantic at the loss of her precious and innocent child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Very sad tale, I tried putting this in General Topics but it was closed.....as it's already running in The Isaan Forum where only a few will read it. Fixed Maigo6, thanks for the heads up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithson Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Rotweillers seem to have a bad reputation here, Thais are terrified of them. Even their owners seem to have a fear, I've seen many left in cages or tied up frustrated while other dogs play. I wonder if this fear discourages the owners from socializing their dogs? We have a dog that looked like a Rot when it was a pup. Wanting to be responsible, I read all about the breed. There were some really good suggestions such as not letting them destroy soft toys, rubbing their stomach while they lay on you lap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAWP Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Having a kid in the same age and reading the title made my heart miss a beat out of sadness. We have some 29 dogs now (had 3 pass away of old age this year) and I'm very carefull about allowing my son play around any of the dogs. It doesn't matter that I could control each and every one. They are dogs and they can be fierce against intruders and rivals - and even a dog that think he is just 'raising' a kid would do way too much damage for a parent to accept. Puppies can handle a dog for parent, human kids cannot... Anyway, Rottweilers aren't bad dogs. But if they aren't properly trained they can become very dangerous...as can most dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcom Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 I knew someone would come along to say what sweet & gentle creatures these & other military breeds are. How they have no problems leaving toddlers alone with these fierce dogs. No difference between keeping these & lions & tigers. I'm not blaming the dogs - not one bit. I'm blaming irresponsible owners who are f'in clueless. In this particular case we have a guy who doesn't even live in Thailand but comkes to visit his other family "once in a while". Bravo old chap. How brave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingdongrb Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 In fact the best guard dogs are geese. But it's hard to house train them... Once again my many condolences to the family of the little girl. I am sure her Father, being thousands of miles away, has some very deep thoughts now about having a fierce dog in the household. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithson Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 How they have no problems leaving toddlers alone with these fierce dogs. I don't think you'd find many ppl saying that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiksilva Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Terrible, truly awful. Forget the analysis on the mistakes that may or may not have been made, my heart goes out to the parents, there can be nothing worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaimiller Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 These are dangerous dogs that should never be around children. Ditto Dobermans & Pit Bulls.Same same loaded gun. Where in the post are Pitbull's mentioned? Why everytime something so terrible like this happens do the usual suspects get verbally accused? a dog attack can happen with any breed, there are cases of poodles injuring and killing people, no one can be sure when this may or may not happen or indeed with which breed. All dogs are dangerous in the wrong circumstances and conditions, please be aware of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garro Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 I have a lot of pity for the father and I'm sure his life is completely destroyed. I don't think there is any need to accuse him of anything because he will likely always blame himself. The article says that his house was robbed a few times and he likely got the dogs to protect his family while he was away - fairly reasonable. I personally wouldn't allow a dog like that near my son. We have a gentle Shih Tzu and I wouldn't leave her alone with my son until he is well able to protect himself, but that is just me. This is probably one of the most upsetting stories I have read on here. When I think of how frightened that poor baby must have been it makes me shudder. That poor man will have to live with those type of images. My deepest sympathy to him and his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozsamurai Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Keeping any pet with young children requires adjustment. Case upon time, children suffer from the lack of knowledge of their parent. Even, domestic cats have been known to suffocate children to death! My heart goes out to the family, I'm sure they are remorseful that they never took the time to look into pet dangers. I am no dog lover, but please get off their backs, it was an accidental tradgedy. So many things can happen to children while growing up, as adults we should take this as a reality check to see if we are doing all we can do to protect ours, lest her passing be in vain. Oz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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