Do You Think A Film That Shows Farangs Murder Thai Orphans Inflames Racism Against Farangs In Thailand?

[Jingthing]

This is a followup poll to the popular thread discussing the currently running Hanuman movie. The movie depicts many horrors done by farangs against Thais. Most extremely, the mass murder of Thai orphan children and desecrating a Buddhist shrine.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Thai-Movie-h...5&start=175

Edited August 18, 2008 by Jingthing

[HASSELHOFF]

Man, get over this movie already, you made a topic on this already and nobody agreed with you.

FOR THE 10TH TIME ITS ONLY A MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jingthing]

Man, get over this movie already, you made a topic on this already and nobody agreed with you.

FOR THE 10TH TIME ITS ONLY A MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nope, you are wrong. There is considerable agreement with me. Cheers.

From a website about Thai movies:

This movie seems to reflect the growing spread of foreign gangsters in Thailand. It seems to be more common now to have farang gangsters (or gringos as they are called in the subtitles) instead of Thai gangsters. This means that they can do more damage which is shocking. Like desecrate shrines, burning orphan children alive and kidnapping a crippled girl. Like Asian gangsters in Hollywood movies, we now have farangs depicted as monsters in Thai movies.

Thai children are now being taught to be good or the farang will come and eat them. I am not kidding. A Thai mother told her kid sitting across from me in a songtaew that if he didn't stop crying then she would give him to the farang. Movies like this will just help continue this trend of racial division in the country.

Edited August 18, 2008 by Jingthing

[HASSELHOFF]

So you consider if there is a killing in a movies by one race of another race to be racist?

OMFG

[Jingthing]

So you consider if there is a killing in a movies by one race of another race to be racist?

OMFG

Look, kind gentleman, this is a POLL. My considered, very detailed, reasoned arguments about this specific incredibly INFLAMMATORY movie are available in the other thread, as well as many rebuttals, and some supportive posts as well. It is probably a good background to read that thread before voting. I am not going to dignify an answer to your dumbed down question.

I will predict most people will vote No on this poll. However, I bet you if the poll was limited to farangs who actually SAW this disgusting movie, the majority would vote yes. If you haven't seen it, you will have to trust the descriptions both I and the so called actor provided in the other thread. Cheers.

I have seen many many Thai movies over the years Most of them were not great movies, but I like watching Thai movies. Anyway, before this one movie HANUMAN, it never occurred to me to make an issue over any Thai movie. Trust me, this one is different. It is historic in fact, in how far it goes to depict farangs as a menace with no regard for everything Thai people hold dear (Buddha).

Edited August 18, 2008 by Jingthing

[JetsetBkk]

Man, get over this movie already, you made a topic on this already and nobody agreed with you.

FOR THE 10TH TIME ITS ONLY A MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agreed with him, but couldn't be bothered to get into the argument.

It's too bl00dy obvious that it'll stir up anti-farang feelings amongst the lesser educated Thai youths who don't realise it's just a film made to get people excited and talking about it so that it becomes a box office success.

I won't be walking past any cinemas in the near future when they come pouring out after watching this film and I suggest nobody else does too.

[dotcom]

Nah. There is already enough racism against falangs. One movie isn't going to add to it.

[kiakaha]

I think if modern science could harness the energy in a "winge and moan", then several members of this forum could provide endless, clean, renewable power for generations.

[jumnien]

How do you think Germans feel about WW2 movies w/concentration camp scenes. Let art happen!

[Jingthing]

How do you think Germans feel about WW2 movies w/concentration camp scenes. Let art happen!

Those are based on actual events. I agree let art happen and don't censor. This film ain't art BTW. Trash would be a better word.

Edited August 18, 2008 by Jingthing

[garro]

You have done a great job of promoting this movie - are you being paid? Perhaps you should begin picketing the cinemas and you will be able to turn it into a blockbuster.

[Jingthing]

You have done a great job of promoting this movie - are you being paid? Perhaps you should begin picketing the cinemas and you will be able to turn it into a blockbuster.

I think it would be worthwhile for farangs to see this, but I would prefer if you see it without paying for a ticket.

[frodo]

Personally, all I see is nothing but hypocrisy in regards to this film. When films such as "Hollywood Buddha," or products made with a Buddha image such as wine or shoes, there seems to be a huge uproar here, and as discussed in another thread, "knee-jerk" reactions occur. Though I haven't seen the film, Jingthings description and one of the "actors" in the film personal statement, clearly reeks of hypocrisy. If a foreign company creates anything that may disrespect Buddha or anything Buddha-like, expect protests and crying. Let a Thai directer display destruction of a Buddha shrine or butchery of children, it is okay for some inane reason.

Furthermore, a certain video game has been declared "illegal" due to a teenagers psychotic illness and his subsequent killing of a taxi driver. To make light of JetsetBKK's post, suppose someone is attacked by someone who had seen the film. Will there be another knee-jerk reaction and a banning of this film or films such as this? Probably not, after all it has Thai artistic value.

I had thought it was highly illegal for the destruction of Buddhist shrines, simulated or real, with some rather severe penalty's. This film does the foreign community no real favors. The Uncle Tom's amongst us.

[Scott]

Please remember to really stoke up nationalism, you need an enemy and the more different the enemy, the easier they are to spot and thus dislike/distrust. So, farangs are stuck with this role for now, I guess.

By the way it does sound like a piece of trash, but again plenty of that out there from everywhere from Bollywood to Hollywood.

[Naam]

So you consider if there is a killing in a movies by one race of another race to be racist?

OMFG

Look, kind gentleman, this is a POLL.

no it's not! it's Jingthing's usual "ah wanna get rid of mah frustrashon wid dem Thais but ah dunno how"

[mr_hippo]

The Serenity Prayer - updated!

God grant me the intelligence

to know that some things are real;

sense to realise that some are fiction;

and enough brain cells to know the difference.

(With profound apologies to Reinhold Niebuhr)

It is a movie - get over it!

Thai children are now being taught to be good or the farang will come and eat them. I am not kidding. A Thai mother told her kid sitting across from me in a songtaew that if he didn't stop crying then she would give him to the farang. Movies like this will just help continue this trend of racial division in the country.

Just as in the West, children are threatened with the bogey man, the gypsies and that Santa will not be leaving anything! Parents in other cultures offer the same threats but with different names!

[kmart]

Movies like this used to be made in 3D, and with a "scratch 'n sniff" card... Get over it, or watch any Jap / Asian bashing Hollywood film to feel good about yourself again.

[toybits]

Isn't this not very different from the scene showing Brit soldiers murdering peacefully protesting Indians in the film "Gandhi"? That wasn't fantasy. It really happened - didn't it?

This is a followup poll to the popular thread discussing the currently running Hanuman movie. The movie depicts many horrors done by farangs against Thais. Most extremely, the mass murder of Thai orphan children and desecrating a Buddhist shrine.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Thai-Movie-h...5&start=175

[toybits]

What about when Buddha images are used as decorative items in farang-owned gardens and homes? There was a farang in Phuket who used buddha heads as decorative items along a walkway.

This is a followup poll to the popular thread discussing the currently running Hanuman movie. The movie depicts many horrors done by farangs against Thais. Most extremely, the mass murder of Thai orphan children and desecrating a Buddhist shrine.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Thai-Movie-h...5&start=175

[thaihome]

Actually, I suspect the movie makers choose to portray farangs as the evil bad guys as a change from the Burmese or Cambodians they usually use.

To think this is some sort of nationalistic conspiracy by Thai intellectuals (assuming the movie makers actually fall into that category ) is really sad and pathetic

TH

[Jingthing]

Actually, I suspect the movie makers choose to portray farangs as the evil bad guys as a change from the Burmese or Cambodians they usually use.

To think this is some sort of nationalistic conspiracy by Thai intellectuals (assuming the movie makers actually fall into that category ) is really sad and pathetic

TH

Did I say that? No, I didn't. However, the Thai censors did allow this and would have NEVER allowed images of Thais desecrating a Buddha shrine in a Thai or imported movie. You figure that one out.

[Naam]

What about when Buddha images are used as decorative items in farang-owned gardens and homes? There was a farang in Phuket who used buddha heads as decorative items along a walkway.

decorative items along a walkway show ignorance and lack of respect of a religion and the host country. having Buddha sculptures in a home is not disrespectful as long as they are placed and treated with appropriate respect. i am an art collector and have more than a dozen images (from life size to miniatures) of Lord Buddha in my home. the fact that neither my wife nor me are Buddhists does not make me feel uncomfortable.

[jimjam23]

Actually, I suspect the movie makers choose to portray farangs as the evil bad guys as a change from the Burmese or Cambodians they usually use.

To think this is some sort of nationalistic conspiracy by Thai intellectuals (assuming the movie makers actually fall into that category ) is really sad and pathetic

TH

Did I say that? No, I didn't. However, the Thai censors did allow this and would have NEVER allowed images of Thais desecrating a Buddha shrine in a Thai or imported movie. You figure that one out.

Your wrong here - Have you seen Ong Bak? Its about Thai criminals who behead a stone buddha from a small village temple to sell abroad. Tony Ja travels from his village to BKK to get it back from a Thai mafia type gang who have stole hundreds of buddha images. Its a Thai film with Thai actors made by a Thai production company.

Edited August 19, 2008 by jimjam23

[Jingthing]

The movie showed a Thai Buddhist shrine in a small temple in a Thai orphan village. You would never see a movie here where a Thai destroys such a Thai Buddhist shrine in broad daylight, violently knocking over everything in sight in the temple, with a doomed man screaming YOU ARE ON THAI SOIL!

Edited August 19, 2008 by Jingthing

[jimjam23]

The movie showed a Thai Buddhist shrine in a small temple in a Thai orphan village. You would never see a movie here where a Thai destroys such a Thai Buddhist shrine in broad daylight, violently knocking over everything in sight in the temple, with a doomed man screaming YOU ARE ON THAI SOIL!

You should watch Ong Bak then - they beat up the old village guy knocking him to the ground and then use a hammer and chisel to remove buddha's head whilst laughing to themselves (you cannot get more offensive then that).

Its a typical scene that you get in the early plot set of a vengence movie.

Learnt directly from hollywood.

[HASSELHOFF]

The movie showed a Thai Buddhist shrine in a small temple in a Thai orphan village. You would never see a movie here where a Thai destroys such a Thai Buddhist shrine in broad daylight, violently knocking over everything in sight in the temple, with a doomed man screaming YOU ARE ON THAI SOIL!

Didnt that happen in Ong Bak?

[Jingthing]

The movie showed a Thai Buddhist shrine in a small temple in a Thai orphan village. You would never see a movie here where a Thai destroys such a Thai Buddhist shrine in broad daylight, violently knocking over everything in sight in the temple, with a doomed man screaming YOU ARE ON THAI SOIL!

Didnt that happen in Ong Bak?

No, the special ancient relic was stolen in the dark of night.

No mass murder and burnings of poor orphaned Thai children either.

Edited August 19, 2008 by Jingthing

[Sabum]

The movie showed a Thai Buddhist shrine in a small temple in a Thai orphan village. You would never see a movie here where a Thai destroys such a Thai Buddhist shrine in broad daylight, violently knocking over everything in sight in the temple, with a doomed man screaming YOU ARE ON THAI SOIL!

Didnt that happen in Ong Bak?

No, the special ancient relic was stolen in the dark of night.

No mass murder and burnings of poor orphaned Thai children either.

Nah see now youre getting picky and choosy about what is bad and whats not. Ong Bak is just one we have all seen, how many other Thai movies desecrate budhist icons? I think youre reaching here.

[Jingthing]

how many other Thai movies desecrate budhist icons?

I don't know. What I do know is that scene in Hanuman was exceptionally INFLAMMATORY. Believe it or not, I know what I saw.

[jumnien]

PAD is inflammatory. Ban the PAD! Do us all a favor.