Democrats To Form New Coalition Government

[Jingthing]

Democrat Party has no political propriety

Those are fighting words!

What's next, whipping them with a wet rice noodle?

If that's the best they've got, I reckon they are well screwed.

[TAWP]

Before I respond, aren't you the poster who said that the photographs of the man beaten and shot by PAD guards and found naked and unconscious in a klong by the airport were by your definition"photo shopped"?...

Such pictures was posted or linked here? Mind linking again or sending PM with link?

Haven't seen anything like that here. Could have missed it since on has to work...

[Plus]

It appears that the game is deadlocked with neither parties being able to actually put names on paper. Banharn the Eel is still not with Democrats and Snoh is sticking it up with Thaksin, for some reason. The longer it draws out the more prospects for Newin folding back into Phue Thai.

I feel we might be just for one last screw up - Phue Thai are not finished with the country yet.

We'll have to wait until the courts will rule on the status of MPs and the interim PM, that could trigger House Dissolution and new elections.

[gonzobrains]

don't need votes. just besiege some more critical locations and let the army sit back and watch!

Looks as if the demos may have enough votes to form the next Government

[gonzobrains]

I'm not sure about how all this works in Thailand, but for some reason a properly elected government is seen as corrupt but one that establishes itself based on terrorist acts and besieging public infrastructure is more just?

Puea Thai Party branch leader says Democrat Party has no political propriety

Leader of the Bangkok branch of the Puea Thai Party (PTP) Wichan Meenchainant indicated that the Democrat Party has illustrated a lack of political propriety in its move to establish a new government, affirming that the Puea Thai Party also has enough members to secure an administration.

Interim Minister of Public Health and core figure of PTP Wichan Meenchainant criticized the Democrat Party's action to form a new administration, saying that the action is against political etiquette as the usual practice is to allow the previous government some leeway in reforming.

He stated that despite the dissolution of three coalition parties, the remaining Parties and Puea Thai still hold a sizeable amount of MPs.

Wichan was adamant in stating that remnants of the coalition government are still holding fast and that they still pose as a viable group to take the administration.

- ThaiNews / 2008-12-08

[TAWP]

Forget Abhisit, he's a draft dodger !

Just remember the screw up caused by the last "elected" draft dodger George W Bush.

Technically, Bush wasn't a draft dodger. Bill Clinton however was...

[sriracha john]

Puea Thai Party's Chiang Mai MP Surapong disclosed today that the latest 226 MPs comprised 202 Puea Thai MPs, 5 Pracharaj MPs, 5 Chart Thai Pattana MPs, and 14 Puea Pandin MPs. However, the Ruam Jai Chart Pattana Party and the Bhumjaithai Party still remained undecided while the Newin’s Friend faction was also reportedly present at the meeting with the exception of 12 MPs.

Ruam Jai Thai Chat Pattana says it will form government with Democrat Party

The Ruam Jai Thai Chat Pattana Party affirmed it will join with the Democrat Party in forming a new administration and will call a meeting to ask for the executive board’s consensus on the matter soon.

Acting Energy Minister and Deputy Leader of Ruam Jai Thai Chat Pattana Party Wannarat Charnnukoon, said that the Party will definitely form a new government with the Democrat Party as announced on Saturday. However, Wannarat said the party’s executives needed to reach a consensus on the matter first and the board meeting would take place before an extraordinary parliamentary session to elect a new Prime Minister.

Wannarat added that all parties have agreed to submit a list of MPs to request for a special parliamentary session to the House Speaker.

- ThaiNews / 2008-12-08

Edited December 8, 2008 by sriracha john

[sriracha john]

Sanan says 15 former Chart Thai MPs to support Abhisit as next PM

Sanan Kachornprasart, a senior member of the Chart Thai Party, Saturday pledged support for the Democrat Party's bid to form a coalition government.

Sanan said all 15 remaining MPs of the defunct Party would vote for Democrat leader Abhisit Vejjajiva as the next prime minister.

Sanan affirms invitation from Puea Thai Party

Former Chart Thai Party Chief Advisor Sanan Kajornprasart refused to assess on whether or not the Democrat Party could form the government, while declaring that he has been offered the Prime Minister position from Puea Thai Party, but rejected it on grounds of wanting only to be Deputy PM.

However, the future prospect of both political factions, though currently uncertain and whimsical, would have to depend on strategies on gaining number of MPs on both sides.

Meanwhile, former Chart Thai Party Leader Banharn Silpa-Archa refused to comment on political situation, after he has recently been disqualified from political arena.

- ThaiNews / 2008-12-08

[george]

Abhisit visits Banharn to seek blessing for leading next Govt

BANGKOK: -- Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva and party secretary-general Suthep Thaugsuban led some 40 Democrat MPs to visit former Chart Thai leader Banharn Silapa-archa to seek blessing for leading the next government.

Abhisit, Banharn and core members of the two sides met for about 20 minutes at Banharn's house.

Abhisit told reporters that Banharn gave him useful advice.

-- The Nation 2008-12-08

[marshbags]

I'm not sure about how all this works in Thailand, but for some reason a properly elected government is seen as corrupt but one that establishes itself based on terrorist acts and besieging public infrastructure is more just?

Puea Thai Party branch leader says Democrat Party has no political propriety

Leader of the Bangkok branch of the Puea Thai Party (PTP) Wichan Meenchainant indicated that the Democrat Party has illustrated a lack of political propriety in its move to establish a new government, affirming that the Puea Thai Party also has enough members to secure an administration.

Interim Minister of Public Health and core figure of PTP Wichan Meenchainant criticized the Democrat Party's action to form a new administration, saying that the action is against political etiquette as the usual practice is to allow the previous government some leeway in reforming.

How long do they need ????

It,s been months now since the TRT ( previous government ) were kicked out of power and came back as the surrogate PPP party.

Yet they still haven,t / didn,t reform marshbags

He stated that despite the dissolution of three coalition parties, the remaining Parties and Puea Thai still hold a sizeable amount of MPs.

Wichan was adamant in stating that remnants of the coalition government are still holding fast and that they still pose as a viable group to take the administration.

- ThaiNews / 2008-12-08

[marshbags]

Democrat Party has no political propriety

Those are fighting words!

What's next, whipping them with a wet rice noodle?

If that's the best they've got, I reckon they are well screwed.

While the TRT, PPP, PT have definitely got no political probrity of any description

I thought when saw the article this was what i was reading and thought <deleted> they on about this is themselves they,re describing.

marshbags

[baht&sold]

It's not quite over yet

Dec 8, 3 pm: The Democrat motion to convene a special House session has been submitted. The Pheu Thai Party is also planning to submit a similar motion of its own. House Speaker Chai said it would take about three days to check the signatures before the Democrat motion can be presented to HM the King.

As of now, the House session may take place as late as next week. It promises to be a very long, anxious wait for Abhisit.

Our latest information has it that only 21 Newin faction MPs remain committed to the Democrat alliance.

-The Nation / Tulsathit Taptim

[sriracha john]

260 + 226 = 486

480 MP's in Parliament....

At the moment there are reportedly only 447 MPs in parliament too. Someone is telling porkies or some have a foot in both camps.

224 = PMship.

Indeed there's not even 480 around to count....

480 seats - 28 disbanded MP's = 452

EC to hold by-elections on Jan 11

The Election Commission will hold by-elections to fill 28 House seats in 22 provinces on January 11, it announced Monday.

The seats became vacant after the Constitution Court dissolved three parties, and revoked election rights of their executives, 28 of them constituency-based MPs.

The candidacy registration for the by-elections will be carried out on December 22 to 26.

Advance voting will be held on January 3 and 4.

- The Nation / 2008-12-08

[sriracha john]

House Speaker Chai said it would take about three days to check the signatures before the Democrat motion can be presented

3 days to "check signatures"...

Our latest information has it that only 21 Newin faction MPs remain committed to the Democrat alliance.

The cigar concession would be a very lucrative one considering the number of smoke-filled backroom discussions going at present.

It's not quite over yet

it certainly isn't...

Edited December 8, 2008 by sriracha john

[sriracha john]

Banharn tight-lipped on new PM; Sanan rejects offer

Former Chart Thai Party Leader Banharn Silpa-archa on Monday refused to comment whether the PTP or Democrat Party can form the new government, citing that the Constitution Court has banned him from politics for five years. Ex-PM Banharn admitted Democrat leader Abhisit Vejjajiva visited him on Monday afternoon and thanked him for support the Democrat Party. However, Banharn said he would like to enter monkhood. Meanwhile, former Chart Thai Chief Adviser Sanan Kajornprasart said the Puea Thai Party earlier wanted to nominate him as PM. However, he rejected the offer because he would be happy to take the Deputy PM's post and side with the Democrat Party. Sanan believed working with the Democrat party could improve the national situation, and insisted that the Democrat Party and its partners can set up the new government. However, there could still be changes before the new PM is nominated, he

Continued here:

http://www.bangkokpost.com/breaking_news/b...s.php?id=135235

Edited December 8, 2008 by sriracha john

[sriracha john]

^ gosh, how much quieter things would be if all the other politicians banned from politics actually followed their banishment.

[Samuian]

^ gosh, how much quieter things would be if all the other politicians banned from politics actually followed their banishment.

and we can be for certain that, if the Dems really make it and manage to nominate a PM, we will see a barrage of deadlocks, the stalemate will continue, it's the revenge of the "man behind the scene"!

he will do anything to make the "wheeling and dealings" of the ruling party as difficult as hel_l, way too many people who will think that they have been unjustly victimized!

And the budget.... the income, the war chests...pity, the Dem's have to mingle with the some of the "old guard" for support, to make it, way to bad... they may pay for it in the not too far away future, if they are not on guard all the time!

a long, winding rocky road lies ahead...

[jayjayjayjay]

^ gosh, how much quieter things would be if all the other politicians banned from politics actually followed their banishment.

What were the dems doing visiting a "banned" politician anyway?

Why don't they just share the bl**dy post around.

Sanan 6 months

Abhisit 6 months

Yingluck 6 months

Army 6 months

Banharn's mother 6 months

PAD 15 seconds, guess Chavalit could have it sporting a bald head, he should be out soon!

[henryalleman]

Forget Abhisit, he's a draft dodger !

Just remember the screw up caused by the last "elected" draft dodger George W Bush.

Technically, Bush wasn't a draft dodger. Bill Clinton however was...

GWB escaped by going to the national guard where he was more absent than present, there where even took disciplinary action against him. This I call dodging.

BTW what serving in the military has to do with being a good politician and ruling the country. Maggie never served in the army.

[Wiresok]

For years now the PAD faschists and their Democrat instrument have been saying the thai coiurts are corrupt.

All the time, everyday, day in day out the thai courts are corrupt.

Now after the greatest judicial onslought to 3 times bring down the democratically elected government , the faschist PAD and their democratic instrument suddenly flip 180 degrees and all of a sudden the thai courts , the faschist PAD, and their democratic instrument are clean.

LOL

You have claimed for years the thai courts are corrupt, the burden of proof is with you, the militant, armed paramilitary, unelected, anti-government terrorist, fashist PAD, to prove they are not.

For years you have caimed the thai courts to be corrupt, now prove they are clean of face the charge of hypocites!!

[annamaria4711]

For years now the PAD faschists and their Democrat instrument have been saying the thai coiurts are corrupt.

All the time, everyday, day in day out the thai courts are corrupt.

Now after the greatest judicial onslought to 3 times bring down the democratically elected government , the faschist PAD and their democratic instrument suddenly flip 180 degrees and all of a sudden the thai courts , the faschist PAD, and their democratic instrument are clean.

LOL

You have claimed for years the thai courts are corrupt, the burden of proof is with you, the militant, armed paramilitary, unelected, anti-government terrorist, fashist PAD, to prove they are not.

For years you have caimed the thai courts to be corrupt, now prove they are clean of face the charge of hypocites!!

hear hear WiresOK

Its taken them years to get to where we are today.

They had to have a coup and then the Junta replacing publicly elected judges with their choices

This fight is going to get dirty and NOT over by a long shot

[jdinasia]

For years now the PAD faschists and their Democrat instrument have been saying the thai coiurts are corrupt.

All the time, everyday, day in day out the thai courts are corrupt.

Now after the greatest judicial onslought to 3 times bring down the democratically elected government , the faschist PAD and their democratic instrument suddenly flip 180 degrees and all of a sudden the thai courts , the faschist PAD, and their democratic instrument are clean.

LOL

You have claimed for years the thai courts are corrupt, the burden of proof is with you, the militant, armed paramilitary, unelected, anti-government terrorist, fashist PAD, to prove they are not.

For years you have caimed the thai courts to be corrupt, now prove they are clean of face the charge of hypocites!!

hear hear WiresOK

Its taken them years to get to where we are today.

They had to have a coup and then the Junta replacing publicly elected judges with their choices

This fight is going to get dirty and NOT over by a long shot

LOL

Strangely the PAD and the Democrats have always respected the legal process here in Thailand. Even when the PAD leaders got in trouble they went to jail and then were released. When there was a court order they appealed. They in fact turned to the courts hoping that the courts would solve things legally on a suggestion

The Democrats are not allied with the PAD though they have had common cause in many instances when dealing with the TRT/PPP etc

I wonder which 'publicly elected judges' were replaced by the Junta? Can you name them?

[Wiresok]

I hope the one-eyed thai judiciary can realise the problems they are causing, hopefully before any more violence.

In the Uk the green party have hijacked stanstead airport with a sit in on the runway.

The police soon cleared them out, supportive of the democratically elected government.

The talksport radio presenter described them as terrorists,.

Lets now see if the english courts overthrow the democratically elected goverment.

[Sunderland]

Never mind draft dodging, the guy's brain damaged!

Quick reoccupy the airports!!!

[baht&sold]

For years now the PAD faschists and their Democrat instrument have been saying the thai coiurts are corrupt.

All the time, everyday, day in day out the thai courts are corrupt.

Now after the greatest judicial onslought to 3 times bring down the democratically elected government , the faschist PAD and their democratic instrument suddenly flip 180 degrees and all of a sudden the thai courts , the faschist PAD, and their democratic instrument are clean.

LOL

You have claimed for years the thai courts are corrupt, the burden of proof is with you, the militant, armed paramilitary, unelected, anti-government terrorist, fashist PAD, to prove they are not.

For years you have caimed the thai courts to be corrupt, now prove they are clean of face the charge of hypocites!!

Your hero Mr Thaksin seemed to have faith in the court ruling in his favour on share concealment... (turns out the maid was unusually rich, not him;)

He also liked the previous EC rulings (before they were rightfully tossed in jail for being in his pocket)... The democratic dictator and his cronies don't seem to like other rulings tho.. (go figure)

Anyone supporting a 'democratic' Govt who's top priority is to REMOVE vote-fraud rules needs to get their head out of the Economist (the printed version of FOX/Faux news)

[dave9988]

For years now the PAD faschists and their Democrat instrument have been saying the thai coiurts are corrupt.

All the time, everyday, day in day out the thai courts are corrupt.

Now after the greatest judicial onslought to 3 times bring down the democratically elected government , the faschist PAD and their democratic instrument suddenly flip 180 degrees and all of a sudden the thai courts , the faschist PAD, and their democratic instrument are clean.

LOL

You have claimed for years the thai courts are corrupt, the burden of proof is with you, the militant, armed paramilitary, unelected, anti-government terrorist, fashist PAD, to prove they are not.

For years you have caimed the thai courts to be corrupt, now prove they are clean of face the charge of hypocites!!

hear hear WiresOK

Its taken them years to get to where we are today.

They had to have a coup and then the Junta replacing publicly elected judges with their choices

This fight is going to get dirty and NOT over by a long shot

LOL

Strangely the PAD and the Democrats have always respected the legal process here in Thailand. Even when the PAD leaders got in trouble they went to jail and then were released. When there was a court order they appealed. They in fact turned to the courts hoping that the courts would solve things legally on a suggestion

The Democrats are not allied with the PAD though they have had common cause in many instances when dealing with the TRT/PPP etc

I wonder which 'publicly elected judges' were replaced by the Junta? Can you name them?

through the looking glass.

[annamaria4711]

For years now the PAD faschists and their Democrat instrument have been saying the thai coiurts are corrupt.

All the time, everyday, day in day out the thai courts are corrupt.

Now after the greatest judicial onslought to 3 times bring down the democratically elected government , the faschist PAD and their democratic instrument suddenly flip 180 degrees and all of a sudden the thai courts , the faschist PAD, and their democratic instrument are clean.

LOL

You have claimed for years the thai courts are corrupt, the burden of proof is with you, the militant, armed paramilitary, unelected, anti-government terrorist, fashist PAD, to prove they are not.

For years you have caimed the thai courts to be corrupt, now prove they are clean of face the charge of hypocites!!

hear hear WiresOK

Its taken them years to get to where we are today.

They had to have a coup and then the Junta replacing publicly elected judges with their choices

This fight is going to get dirty and NOT over by a long shot

LOL

Strangely the PAD and the Democrats have always respected the legal process here in Thailand. Even when the PAD leaders got in trouble they went to jail and then were released. When there was a court order they appealed. They in fact turned to the courts hoping that the courts would solve things legally on a suggestion

The Democrats are not allied with the PAD though they have had common cause in many instances when dealing with the TRT/PPP etc

I wonder which 'publicly elected judges' were replaced by the Junta? Can you name them?

Well Jdinasia

You're obviuolsy not into reading things are you?

Check out latest murmurings..Democrats to give PAD officialdom as Demonic crats need large majority to form a government, what better way than make PAD a political party, easily done ask one of the crooked judges to 'make it so'

You'll laugh from the other side of your face when your vote and rights are taken away from you AND YOU will know that you can only blame yourself for this and no one else because you brought into thailand a fascists police state, run by the army for the army...and your tea money wont be enough to buy you a job because you don't come from the right family...LOL yeah we'll see...as they say..he who laughs last laughs loudest...though I wont be laughing it'll be tears I'll be shedding due to your moronic myopic support of fascism

[Wiresok]

What are the faschist PAD and their democrat instruments views on

1. One person one vote ( 1/1 )

2.Ethnic Cleansing ( E.C )

International Community looking on.

[Meerkat]

<snip>

Anyone supporting a 'democratic' Govt who's top priority is to REMOVE vote-fraud rules needs to get their head out of the Economist (the printed version of FOX/Faux news)

This keeps on getting repeated and should be clarified.

The amendment in question would mean that an entire party is not dissolved and its executive banned for five years, for the crime of only one executive member. Any member caught and found guilty of vote fraud however would still be punished. As it stands, the law metes out collective punishment and guilt by association. Even the judges last week alluded to this when they said that as the law stands they had to ban members even though there was no evidence they had any knowledge of the crime in question. It is bad law, plain and simple.

There are other constitutional amendments that are more questionable and rightly should be challenged. This however is not one of them.

[Ulysses G.]

GWB escaped by going to the national guard where he was more absent than present, there where even took disciplinary action against him. This I call dodging.

YOU can call it whatever you want. What he did was legal and did not even guarantee that he would not end up in Vietnam. GWB did not go to war, but he did do his duty.