Pad Announcement 29/2008: Conditions For New Government

[Gravelrash]

With the Royal Decree on Thursday December 11, 2008 for the launch of an extraordinary Parliamentary session to allow the House of Representatives to select the new prime minister on Monday December 15, 2008, the People’s Alliance for Democracy (PAD) has the following statement to make.

The PAD wants all politicians to realize that its 193-day rally is a great sacrifice of a large group of people, some with their lives. It has been successful in blocking an amendment to the Constitution, thus allowing the corruption cases against politicians and electoral fraud cases to be deliberated by the court, resulting in the current political change.

The sacrifice of the people must not be for a proxy government of the Thaksin regime to be set up, and the PAD does not want to see a mere change in the political alliance to seek benefits for a particularly political group.

The PAD wants to see a resolution to the problems of politics in the past, restoration of justice for the people, and a move ahead with the people to reform politics and install new politics that will not see a recurrence of past political crisis.

The PAD would like to announce its stance for the selection of the new prime minister in the extraordinary Parliamentary session as follows:

Firstly, the PAD opposes any proxy prime minister from the Pheu Thai Party and any prime minister from a political party that is part of a coalition involving the Pheu Thai Party, which is a newly-established proxy political party of the Thaksin regime.

Secondly, the PAD condemns threats, intimidation, negotiations, and payment to politicians for them to join the Pheu Thai in being able to form government without care to the damages to the country and the public.

Finally, the PAD will monitor the change in political alliance of the old-style politics and whether it will be able to break through the political crisis, deal with the Thaksin regime, and enter the era of new politics. The PAD, as representative of the public, issues 13 conditions for the new government.

1. Speed up the lese majeste cases against Jakrapob Penkair, Weera Musikapong, websites, publications, community radio stations, and crack down on the movement that endangers the Monarchy as a priority.

2. Announce its stance of not amending the 2007 Constitution or any other law that will whitewash the crimes of politicians, that will benefit politicians’ own interests, that will lessen the authority of the Monarchy or disturb the foundation of the country’s Constitutional Monarchy.

3. Support good and talented people into power; prevent evil people from taking power; managing the country with transparency; and stop unacceptable politicians or state officials, those with conflicts of interest, or those with corrupt tendency to take power.

4. Speed up corruption cases to enter the judicial process and prevent direct and indirect interference into the cases. Transfer state officials who have been serving the Thaksin regime out of power, such as the director-general of the Department of Special Investigation, the director-general of the Public Relations Department, the director of the Budget Bureau, the secretary-general of the Food and Drugs Administration, etc. Seize corrupt assets to become state assets once again.

For the benefit of the country, the new government should announce its stance in speeding up the Kao Kradong State Railway Authority of Thailand land violation case and the violation of public land in Satuk district of Buri Ram province. It should also cancel the rental contract for illegitimate shops at the Suvarnabhumi Airport and cancel the shows and prosecute state officials and private companies involved in the non-transparent rental of buying of airtime on the Public Relation Department’s Channel 11.

5. Cancel the passport of Pol. Lt. Col. Thaksin Shinawatra, a runaway convict of the country.

6. Speed up the extradition process of Pol. Lt. Col. Thaksin Shinawatra, a runaway convict, to return to serve his jail term in Thailand immediately.

7. Announce the cancellation of the Thai-Cambodian joint communiqué that gave away Preah Vihear Temple and its surrounding areas to Cambodia and protect Thai sovereignty over its land and natural gas and oil resources in the Gulf of Thailand.

8. Speed up the eradication of a police state and transfer police officers who accuse, trick, and intimidate PAD supporters to an inactive post. Prosecute police officers involved in the killing of the people on October 7, 2008 and those who accuse the public of being traitors and terrorists, particularly Pol. Gen. Chongrak Chutanont, Pol. Lt. Gen. Suchart Muenkaew, Pol. Maj. Gen. Amnuay Nimmano, Pol. Lt. Gen. Somyos Poompanmuang, Pol. Col. Luechai Sudyod, etc. Restore justice for the police officers who have been honest and brave in protecting the people’s interest through promotions in their job.

9. Speed up the cases and prosecute those implicated by the National Human Rights Commission and the Senate committees for being involved in the killing of the people, such as Somchai Wongsawat, Gen. Chavalit Yongjaiyudh, and state officials. Prosecute thugs who side with the government in hurting and killing protesters to the fullest extent.

10. Stop using state media to issue propaganda and lie to the public for the Thaksin regime, particularly the ‘Truth Today’ program on NBT station and its hosts. Launch a media reform to allow the public access to complete information to benefit the country and the people.

11. Cancel large-scale and non-transparent projects that will lead to the demise of the country, such as the 4,000 NGV bus rental, the construction of the new Parliament, etc.

12. Cancel the 1999 State Enterprise Bill and replace it with a state enterprise development and restructuring plan for the utmost benefit of the people. Restore privatized state enterprises as state property, especially PTT.

13. Show the stance of supporting the public in building new politics with greater public participation in politics to ensure true democracy for politics, the economy, and the society accordingly to the way of the PAD and to prevent a future political crisis.

The PAD calls on politicians who are forming the new government to consider the ideologies of the people and heroes who have sacrificed for the country more than negotiations to compete for benefits by different political groups. The new government should announce its stance and follow the above conditions so as not to disappoint the people and prevent them from losing faith in the current political system.

If the conditions and ideologies of the PAD are denied or ignored, it is ready to stage activities according to the situation.

With deepest respect,

People’s Alliance for Democracy

December 12, 2008

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[simon43]

Ah well, that's all ok then. Basketcase Thailand here we come...

and I second the comment 'Sieg Heil!!'

Simon

[JUDAS]

An unelected group dictating to the entire country obviously lead by a meglomaniac. This group is starting to make Thaksin seem like a reasonable guy

[TAWP]

I just love the constructive criticism you can muster up...

[splodger]

With the Royal Decree on Thursday December 11, 2008 for the launch of an extraordinary Parliamentary session to allow the House of Representatives to select the new prime minister on Monday December 15, 2008, the People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) has the following statement to make.

The PAD wants all politicians to realize that its 193-day rally is a great sacrifice of a large group of people, some with their lives. It has been successful in blocking an amendment to the Constitution, thus allowing the corruption cases against politicians and electoral fraud cases to be deliberated by the court, resulting in the current political change.

The sacrifice of the people must not be for a proxy government of the Thaksin regime to be set up, and the PAD does not want to see a mere change in the political alliance to seek benefits for a particularly political group.

The PAD wants to see a resolution to the problems of politics in the past, restoration of justice for the people, and a move ahead with the people to reform politics and install new politics that will not see a recurrence of past political crisis.

The PAD would like to announce its stance for the selection of the new prime minister in the extraordinary Parliamentary session as follows:

Firstly, the PAD opposes any proxy prime minister from the Pheu Thai Party and any prime minister from a political party that is part of a coalition involving the Pheu Thai Party, which is a newly-established proxy political party of the Thaksin regime.

Secondly, the PAD condemns threats, intimidation, negotiations, and payment to politicians for them to join the Pheu Thai in being able to form government without care to the damages to the country and the public.

Finally, the PAD will monitor the change in political alliance of the old-style politics and whether it will be able to break through the political crisis, deal with the Thaksin regime, and enter the era of new politics. The PAD, as representative of the public, issues 13 conditions for the new government.

1. Speed up the lese majeste cases against Jakrapob Penkair, Weera Musikapong, websites, publications, community radio stations, and crack down on the movement that endangers the Monarchy as a priority.

2. Announce its stance of not amending the 2007 Constitution or any other law that will whitewash the crimes of politicians, that will benefit politicians' own interests, that will lessen the authority of the Monarchy or disturb the foundation of the country's Constitutional Monarchy.

3. Support good and talented people into power; prevent evil people from taking power; managing the country with transparency; and stop unacceptable politicians or state officials, those with conflicts of interest, or those with corrupt tendency to take power.

4. Speed up corruption cases to enter the judicial process and prevent direct and indirect interference into the cases. Transfer state officials who have been serving the Thaksin regime out of power, such as the director-general of the Department of Special Investigation, the director-general of the Public Relations Department, the director of the Budget Bureau, the secretary-general of the Food and Drugs Administration, etc. Seize corrupt assets to become state assets once again.

For the benefit of the country, the new government should announce its stance in speeding up the Kao Kradong State Railway Authority of Thailand land violation case and the violation of public land in Satuk district of Buri Ram province. It should also cancel the rental contract for illegitimate shops at the Suvarnabhumi Airport and cancel the shows and prosecute state officials and private companies involved in the non-transparent rental of buying of airtime on the Public Relation Department's Channel 11.

5. Cancel the passport of Pol. Lt. Col. Thaksin Shinawatra, a runaway convict of the country.

6. Speed up the extradition process of Pol. Lt. Col. Thaksin Shinawatra, a runaway convict, to return to serve his jail term in Thailand immediately.

7. Announce the cancellation of the Thai-Cambodian joint communiqué that gave away Preah Vihear Temple and its surrounding areas to Cambodia and protect Thai sovereignty over its land and natural gas and oil resources in the Gulf of Thailand.

8. Speed up the eradication of a police state and transfer police officers who accuse, trick, and intimidate PAD supporters to an inactive post. Prosecute police officers involved in the killing of the people on October 7, 2008 and those who accuse the public of being traitors and terrorists, particularly Pol. Gen. Chongrak Chutanont, Pol. Lt. Gen. Suchart Muenkaew, Pol. Maj. Gen. Amnuay Nimmano, Pol. Lt. Gen. Somyos Poompanmuang, Pol. Col. Luechai Sudyod, etc. Restore justice for the police officers who have been honest and brave in protecting the people's interest through promotions in their job.

9. Speed up the cases and prosecute those implicated by the National Human Rights Commission and the Senate committees for being involved in the killing of the people, such as Somchai Wongsawat, Gen. Chavalit Yongjaiyudh, and state officials. Prosecute thugs who side with the government in hurting and killing protesters to the fullest extent.

10. Stop using state media to issue propaganda and lie to the public for the Thaksin regime, particularly the 'Truth Today' program on NBT station and its hosts. Launch a media reform to allow the public access to complete information to benefit the country and the people.

11. Cancel large-scale and non-transparent projects that will lead to the demise of the country, such as the 4,000 NGV bus rental, the construction of the new Parliament, etc.

12. Cancel the 1999 State Enterprise Bill and replace it with a state enterprise development and restructuring plan for the utmost benefit of the people. Restore privatized state enterprises as state property, especially PTT.

13. Show the stance of supporting the public in building new politics with greater public participation in politics to ensure true democracy for politics, the economy, and the society accordingly to the way of the PAD and to prevent a future political crisis.

The PAD calls on politicians who are forming the new government to consider the ideologies of the people and heroes who have sacrificed for the country more than negotiations to compete for benefits by different political groups. The new government should announce its stance and follow the above conditions so as not to disappoint the people and prevent them from losing faith in the current political system.

If the conditions and ideologies of the PAD are denied or ignored, it is ready to stage activities according to the situation.

With deepest respect,

People's Alliance for Democracy

December 12, 2008

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is that all?

[Scott]

Nothing like holding an entire country hostage!

[joskydive]

If the conditions and ideologies of the PAD are denied or ignored, it is ready to stage activities according to the situation.

Link

So.......basically, do as we tell you or we will make more problems again until we have our way!

Talk about holding a Country to Ransom! I wonder what the Law says about that.

Edited December 12, 2008 by joskydive

[Pierrot]

If the people who supported the PAD at the beginning now understand what a monster they help to create, at least something good can come out of this.

[pumpuiman]

I just love the constructive criticism you can muster up...

I just love how some people fail to see how anti-democratic, racist, violent, murderous and Nazi-like the PAD really are.

I'd compare them to sheep, but that would be putting them a little bit too high on the evolutionary scale.

[FatherF]

Well, it was very nice of them to let us all know what our alternatives are!

ooooh! Collision course

FF

[grandpops]

I just love the constructive criticism you can muster up...

We are waiting for people like you to come out and defend it.

you have had countless months sticking up for this closet fascist idiot and now he is openly behaving as the true fascist idiot he is, the silence of the sheep is defening!

I would like to see somebody in power come out and say, if the PAD ever disrupt the country like they did last time, they will shoot every last one of them. That would be more sensible and democratic than what Herr Sondhi is on about.

If Thaksin ever wanted a mandate to come back, these cretins are going to give him it.

Edited December 12, 2008 by grandpops

[The Vulcan]

I thought I'd seen these "rules" elsewhere!

[Ricardo]

Secondly, the PAD condemns threats, intimidation, negotiations, and payment to politicians for them to join the Pheu Thai in being able to form government without care to the damages to the country and the public.

So to be clear, nobody thinks it is reasonable, to condemn threats, intimidation or payments to politicians ? But you all claim to believe in democracy, right ? How do you reconcile the two points of view ?

An unelected group dictating to the entire country obviously lead by a meglomaniac. This group is starting to make Thaksin seem like a reasonable guy

my highlights above.

May I beg to differ. A leader who has to threaten, intimidate or bribe his own party-MPs, not to desert him, is clearly in big trouble. Should be an interesting phone-call from Dubai this week-end.

[taxexile]

the demanding and threatening tone of that statement makes frightening reading , especially the calls for nationalisations , the talk of idealogies , and does not bode well for the future at all.

[Japhrodisiac]

The tone of this is quite scary. The "do as we say, all of it, or else" is indicative of very bad things to come.

[FatherF]

Secondly, the PAD condemns threats, intimidation, negotiations, and payment to politicians for them to join the Pheu Thai in being able to form government without care to the damages to the country and the public.

So to be clear, nobody thinks it is reasonable, to condemn threats, intimidation or payments to politicians ? But you all claim to believe in democracy, right ? How do you reconcile the two points of view ?

An unelected group dictating to the entire country obviously lead by a meglomaniac. This group is starting to make Thaksin seem like a reasonable guy

my highlights above.

May I beg to differ. A leader who has to threaten, intimidate or bribe his own party-MPs, not to desert him, is clearly in big trouble. Should be an interesting phone-call from Dubai this week-end.

I have to re-ask a question that i am sure many have asked before, if the PAD want all these changes, why don't they go down the proper channels, form a political party, stand for election, (maybe) get voted in with enough seats (even with a coalition) and do the job properly? Oh, silly me that would involve democracy wouldn't it?

FF

Edited for typo

Edited December 12, 2008 by FatherF

[dumball]

Lots of safe places to live in the rest of the world .

[grandpops]

Forgive me father for I have sinned again.

I though that democracy had no part in fascism and elitism?

Therefore, how can the PAD subject themselves to the scrutiny of the voters when they are think themselves above that kind of thing.

Even the sheep are quiet tonight on here!

[FatherF]

Forgive me father for I have sinned again.

I though that democracy had no part in fascism and elitism?

Therefore, how can the PAD subject themselves to the scrutiny of the voters when they are think themselves above that kind of thing.

Even the sheep are quiet tonight on here!

Bless you my child,

Alas i fear that you are once again correct in your assertions.

FF

[basjke]

When the airport will be closed again so I can plan my next trip?

[JUDAS]

It's impossible to defend the indefensible though I thought some would at least give it a shot....

[Pierrot]

I thought I'd seen these "rules" elsewhere!

Where did you get that ?

[wasabi]

I can't wait to get out of this place.

[khunjamespittman]

With the Royal Decree on Thursday December 11, 2008 for the launch of an extraordinary Parliamentary session to allow the House of Representatives to select the new prime minister on Monday December 15, 2008, the People’s Alliance for Democracy (PAD) has the following statement to make.

The PAD wants all politicians to realize that its 193-day rally is a great sacrifice of a large group of people, some with their lives. It has been successful in blocking an amendment to the Constitution, thus allowing the corruption cases against politicians and electoral fraud cases to be deliberated by the court, resulting in the current political change.

The sacrifice of the people must not be for a proxy government of the Thaksin regime to be set up, and the PAD does not want to see a mere change in the political alliance to seek benefits for a particularly political group.

The PAD wants to see a resolution to the problems of politics in the past, restoration of justice for the people, and a move ahead with the people to reform politics and install new politics that will not see a recurrence of past political crisis.

The PAD would like to announce its stance for the selection of the new prime minister in the extraordinary Parliamentary session as follows:

Firstly, the PAD opposes any proxy prime minister from the Pheu Thai Party and any prime minister from a political party that is part of a coalition involving the Pheu Thai Party, which is a newly-established proxy political party of the Thaksin regime.

Secondly, the PAD condemns threats, intimidation, negotiations, and payment to politicians for them to join the Pheu Thai in being able to form government without care to the damages to the country and the public.

Finally, the PAD will monitor the change in political alliance of the old-style politics and whether it will be able to break through the political crisis, deal with the Thaksin regime, and enter the era of new politics. The PAD, as representative of the public, issues 13 conditions for the new government.

1. Speed up the lese majeste cases against Jakrapob Penkair, Weera Musikapong, websites, publications, community radio stations, and crack down on the movement that endangers the Monarchy as a priority.

2. Announce its stance of not amending the 2007 Constitution or any other law that will whitewash the crimes of politicians, that will benefit politicians’ own interests, that will lessen the authority of the Monarchy or disturb the foundation of the country’s Constitutional Monarchy.

3. Support good and talented people into power; prevent evil people from taking power; managing the country with transparency; and stop unacceptable politicians or state officials, those with conflicts of interest, or those with corrupt tendency to take power.

4. Speed up corruption cases to enter the judicial process and prevent direct and indirect interference into the cases. Transfer state officials who have been serving the Thaksin regime out of power, such as the director-general of the Department of Special Investigation, the director-general of the Public Relations Department, the director of the Budget Bureau, the secretary-general of the Food and Drugs Administration, etc. Seize corrupt assets to become state assets once again.

For the benefit of the country, the new government should announce its stance in speeding up the Kao Kradong State Railway Authority of Thailand land violation case and the violation of public land in Satuk district of Buri Ram province. It should also cancel the rental contract for illegitimate shops at the Suvarnabhumi Airport and cancel the shows and prosecute state officials and private companies involved in the non-transparent rental of buying of airtime on the Public Relation Department’s Channel 11.

5. Cancel the passport of Pol. Lt. Col. Thaksin Shinawatra, a runaway convict of the country.

6. Speed up the extradition process of Pol. Lt. Col. Thaksin Shinawatra, a runaway convict, to return to serve his jail term in Thailand immediately.

7. Announce the cancellation of the Thai-Cambodian joint communiqué that gave away Preah Vihear Temple and its surrounding areas to Cambodia and protect Thai sovereignty over its land and natural gas and oil resources in the Gulf of Thailand.

8. Speed up the eradication of a police state and transfer police officers who accuse, trick, and intimidate PAD supporters to an inactive post. Prosecute police officers involved in the killing of the people on October 7, 2008 and those who accuse the public of being traitors and terrorists, particularly Pol. Gen. Chongrak Chutanont, Pol. Lt. Gen. Suchart Muenkaew, Pol. Maj. Gen. Amnuay Nimmano, Pol. Lt. Gen. Somyos Poompanmuang, Pol. Col. Luechai Sudyod, etc. Restore justice for the police officers who have been honest and brave in protecting the people’s interest through promotions in their job.

9. Speed up the cases and prosecute those implicated by the National Human Rights Commission and the Senate committees for being involved in the killing of the people, such as Somchai Wongsawat, Gen. Chavalit Yongjaiyudh, and state officials. Prosecute thugs who side with the government in hurting and killing protesters to the fullest extent.

10. Stop using state media to issue propaganda and lie to the public for the Thaksin regime, particularly the ‘Truth Today’ program on NBT station and its hosts. Launch a media reform to allow the public access to complete information to benefit the country and the people.

11. Cancel large-scale and non-transparent projects that will lead to the demise of the country, such as the 4,000 NGV bus rental, the construction of the new Parliament, etc.

12. Cancel the 1999 State Enterprise Bill and replace it with a state enterprise development and restructuring plan for the utmost benefit of the people. Restore privatized state enterprises as state property, especially PTT.

13. Show the stance of supporting the public in building new politics with greater public participation in politics to ensure true democracy for politics, the economy, and the society accordingly to the way of the PAD and to prevent a future political crisis.

The PAD calls on politicians who are forming the new government to consider the ideologies of the people and heroes who have sacrificed for the country more than negotiations to compete for benefits by different political groups. The new government should announce its stance and follow the above conditions so as not to disappoint the people and prevent them from losing faith in the current political system.

If the conditions and ideologies of the PAD are denied or ignored, it is ready to stage activities according to the situation.

With deepest respect,

People’s Alliance for Democracy

December 12, 2008

Link

This is insanity! The people elect a government and a bunch of lawless thugs (PAD) want to give orders.

If they want to run the government they should create a Politacal Party and run for elections as prescribed in the Thai Constitution.

We all know the answer. Most Thais are sick of this lawlessness and PAD would be lucky to even get their own demonstrators to vote for them. They represent a tiny minority only out to feather their pockets with little regard to the welfare of Thailand or the majority of its citizens.

[Plus]

I still quite don't get it.

Do you need to win a parliamentary majority to demand stop to grenade attacks on defecting MPs?

Do you need to be the biggest party in parliament to demand cancellation of Thaksin's passport or his extradition?

Do you need to be the Prime Minister to demand investigating corruption cases?

What exactly is unreasonable in those demands?

ANY government is obliged to act according to them without even asking. It's a sad state of things when these demands need to be made public and official.

Stop throwing grenades! How dare they to ask that!

[FarangFatal]

An unelected group dictating to the entire country obviously lead by a meglomaniac. This group is starting to make Thaksin seem like a reasonable guy

These are two good world leaders. H.E. Pol L.Col Dr. Thaksin S. and Geo W! Am I going to miss those guys!

So Thaksin now looks like a good guy again, he always was! Elected by the people. Red Card, Yellow Card, Christmas Card, Poker Card...who cares, at least he got voted in. Now thailand will have puppet appointed people as MP's. I suppose that Barak Obama will be wearing yellow nickers and Nancy Pelosi will be giving out free Tom Som! I readally admit that america redefines vote buying thru advertising budgets, usually the most money wins! Thaksin gave people mobile phones and Obama just gave them false hopes!

Edited December 12, 2008 by FarangFatal

[Pierrot]

What exactly is unreasonable in those demands?

What is unreasonable is that a self appointed vigilante group is able to make these demands, and the threats that are obvious should this demands be not answered.

Actually, it's not unreasonable, it's just plain scary.

[MaiChai]

I like to think of it as the criminals versus the educated, moral high ground middle class. If you allow Taksin to buy his way out of the current situation then Thailand will never move away from corruption and rich/powerful buying their way out of anything, irrespective of the law. Thailand should have the rule where no prime minister can serve more than two terms like the US. Being voted in by buying votes/MPs is not democratic; its corrupt. Did you see the claim on Bangkok Post of 55M baht for each MP that backs Peua Thai?

[Plus]

What is unreasonable is that a self appointed vigilante group is able to make these demands....

The "demands" are most basic, most of them are right there in the constution and related laws.

What is sad, as I said already, is that they need to be spelled out publicly and officially.

Actually it's any citizen's right to demand the government to perform it's duties. Call them vigilantes or not.

What exactly do you find unreasonable there?

[grandpops]

What is unreasonable is that a self appointed vigilante group is able to make these demands....

The "demands" are most basic, most of them are right there in the constution and related laws.

What is sad, as I said already, is that they need to be spelled out publicly and officially.

Actually it's any citizen's right to demand the government to perform it's duties. Call them vigilantes or not.

What exactly do you find unreasonable there?

Nazis which is what they are pure and simple.

And remember, they had their supporters and sheep just as the PAD do. They were referred to by Hitler as "useful idiots". How apt is that for many PAD supporters!