chiangrai Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 i have a peugot 205 and i was doing 80km/hr on the highway the other day and it started to vibrate, i sped up and it stopped, i brought it back down to 80 again and it started again,this time i left it get worse, very strange sensation, it seemed to start from the wheel and come up through the gearstick, untill the whole front of the car was shoudering madly and the gearstick was waving from side to side so much i thought it was going to break my knee, arai waa, i turned off the highway and it was fine,there is also a knocking sound from the same wheel when i turn hard, i've got an auful feeling that my front wheel drives are going, it happened me before about 15 years ago,i think they are the same symthoms but can't remember, any advise please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Badly out of balance wheel ?? Or a bearing thats totally destructed ?? Go check your wheel bolts of course !! Drive shafts can make a noise, but if the wheel / suspension bushes and linkages are tight they should not allow vibration intot he wheel and through to the steering ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noahvail Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 i have a peugot 205 and i was doing 80km/hr on the highway the other day and it started to vibrate,i sped up and it stopped, i brought it back down to 80 again and it started again,this time i left it get worse, very strange sensation, it seemed to start from the wheel and come up through the gearstick, untill the whole front of the car was shoudering madly and the gearstick was waving from side to side so much i thought it was going to break my knee, arai waa, i turned off the highway and it was fine,there is also a knocking sound from the same wheel when i turn hard, i've got an auful feeling that my front wheel drives are going, it happened me before about 15 years ago,i think they are the same symthoms but can't remember, any advise please Could be the front ball joint (most likely); could be a strange out-of-balance problem with one tyre, or the rim may have a dent (not very likely); or it's shaking because of too much caffeine (highly unlikely). It's a quick trip on a lift to check the joint. If one's gone, the other will want to be looked at. And if it's gonna be up in the air for a repair, have the covers on both sides replaced - they're inexpensive but costly if that's all the labour you have done). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiangrai Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 i have a peugot 205 and i was doing 80km/hr on the highway the other day and it started to vibrate,i sped up and it stopped, i brought it back down to 80 again and it started again,this time i left it get worse, very strange sensation, it seemed to start from the wheel and come up through the gearstick, untill the whole front of the car was shoudering madly and the gearstick was waving from side to side so much i thought it was going to break my knee, arai waa, i turned off the highway and it was fine,there is also a knocking sound from the same wheel when i turn hard, i've got an auful feeling that my front wheel drives are going, it happened me before about 15 years ago,i think they are the same symthoms but can't remember, any advise please Could be the front ball joint (most likely); could be a strange out-of-balance problem with one tyre, or the rim may have a dent (not very likely); or it's shaking because of too much caffeine (highly unlikely). It's a quick trip on a lift to check the joint. If one's gone, the other will want to be looked at. And if it's gonna be up in the air for a repair, have the covers on both sides replaced - they're inexpensive but costly if that's all the labour you have done). thanks guys, will get it checked,but if it needs parts from peugeot nothing is cheap, if it's the drives she's scrap, hopefully it can just be tightened, will let yoy know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSnake Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 I had a similar problem, a set of new front tires and a wheel alignment solve my problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patklang Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Badly out of balance wheel ?? Or a bearing thats totally destructed ?? Go check your wheel bolts of course !! Drive shafts can make a noise, but if the wheel / suspension bushes and linkages are tight they should not allow vibration intot he wheel and through to the steering ?? sounds about right to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtp Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Badly out of balance wheel ?? Or a bearing thats totally destructed ?? Go check your wheel bolts of course !! Drive shafts can make a noise, but if the wheel / suspension bushes and linkages are tight they should not allow vibration intot he wheel and through to the steering ?? You mean NUTS...Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 (edited) erm no... Bolts !! Dont know what car you drive but all the cars I have owned had wheel bolts. 205's 100% for sure.. Bolts not nuts. Edited February 18, 2009 by LivinLOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griser Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Sounds like its a simple wheel balancing issue. your symptoms are right on target for that. Sometimes they can go out of balance because a balance weight has fallen off or as simple as mud getting into the tire. An unbalanced wheel vibration can be increased in severity by a bad shock or strut as well. Just take it to a shop and get it re-balanced and have them check for alignment while your there. will save your tires later on if they are off. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lickey Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Chaingrai, the cracking noise is almost certainly a CV [constant velocity drive joint} worn when turning hard, Its unusual they cause wheel shake at speed though, unless the outer securing nut has come loose, and/or the splines are badly worn on the wheel drive part, At most it will need a CV joint, drive hub and bearings,+labour to cure the clicking/cracking noise, it might cure the speed vibration as well, but check for un-even tyre wear,balance ect, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtp Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 (edited) erm no... Bolts !! Dont know what car you drive but all the cars I have owned had wheel bolts. 205's 100% for sure.. Bolts not nuts. Mmmmmmm Bolts are the long ones with external thread,nuts are the hexagon ones,that go on the bolt.Is their a difference in language? Edited February 18, 2009 by tritexengineering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtp Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 When you tighten a car wheel,it is via the nuts,not any bolts.The only bolts there,are the wheel studs that the bolt attaches to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtp Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Now i see where the difference is,some cars use lug bolts for fixing the wheels onto(Like Porsche) and some cars use nuts to fix wheels onto(Ford,holden)So we were both right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farma Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 (edited) tritexengineering i've got to go with LivinLos on this one. Peugeot use bolts on a lot of their cars instead of stud and nuts commonly used on other makes of vehicles. Edited February 18, 2009 by Farma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtp Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 tritexengineering i've got to go with LivinLos on this one. Peugeot use bolts on a lot of their cars instead of stud and nuts commonly used on other makes of vehicles. Oh yes,i'm not argueing the point,i don't own a Peugeot and i have no doubt after doing some searching,that there are cars that use this system.I grew up with Fords and Holdens,so i only ever really saw the nut system!I was/am too poor to own a Peugeot! I see Porsche use the same setup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 (edited) I know a little about this subject....my car also shakes violently across the roadway sometimes....its also due to a loose nut behind the wheel Edited February 18, 2009 by neverdie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulfromphuket Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 a piece of french crap when it left the factory, i am surprised its lasted this long! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingray Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 i have a peugot 205 and i was doing 80km/hr on the highway the other day and it started to vibrate,i sped up and it stopped, i brought it back down to 80 again and it started again,this time i left it get worse, very strange sensation, it seemed to start from the wheel and come up through the gearstick, untill the whole front of the car was shoudering madly and the gearstick was waving from side to side so much i thought it was going to break my knee, arai waa, i turned off the highway and it was fine,there is also a knocking sound from the same wheel when i turn hard, i've got an auful feeling that my front wheel drives are going, it happened me before about 15 years ago,i think they are the same symthoms but can't remember, any advise please Front wheel drive cars allways facing this problems. Check you driveshafts (left and rightside). bearings in the joints are "gone". One day work, cost approx about 3'000 to 5'000 Baht for replacement (non original parts) both side. Change both, because the otherone will fail in another month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcon Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Bolts for the older Peugeots. Bolts for many cars, actually. All of my SAABS use bolts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyd Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Peugeot 205 is bolt. I had this same problem with my old 205, it was the driveshaft, at certain speeds the driveshaft would resonate causing it to feel like the wheel was vibrating, it would vibrate through the steering wheel. New driveshaft was problem solved, but your problem may be different, get it checked, you dont want to be stranded out in the middle of nowhere trying to pop a driveshaft back in or even worse, try to find your wheel after it has overtaken your car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who, me ? Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 a piece of french crap when it left the factory, i am surprised its lasted this long! I disagree with you. When this car was first launched, it was within standard of this time. The only cars that were of higher quality were German. Japanese were not very popular yet. But all other cars on the market were at a similar level of quality, or lower (if we compare with same range). Besides you might be amazed to see how many 205 are still on the roads, and not only in France. Peugeot has since improved its standards, but so did a lot of manufacturers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 erm no... Bolts !! Dont know what car you drive but all the cars I have owned had wheel bolts. 205's 100% for sure.. Bolts not nuts. Mmmmmmm Bolts are the long ones with external thread,nuts are the hexagon ones,that go on the bolt.Is their a difference in language? And the bolt is the long one with a thread.. That goes through the wheel onto the flat of the drum or plate for the wheel to mount on. Pug 205.. Has bolts !! As do the vast majority of Euro cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 When you tighten a car wheel,it is via the nuts,not any bolts.The only bolts there,are the wheel studs that the bolt attaches to. http://www.incarshop.co.uk/acatalog/Peugeo..._and_Bolts.html Any more ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtp Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 (edited) When you tighten a car wheel,it is via the nuts,not any bolts.The only bolts there,are the wheel studs that the bolt attaches to. http://www.incarshop.co.uk/acatalog/Peugeo..._and_Bolts.html Any more ?? Any more what?I told you i agree with you,just not common in Australia. Edited February 19, 2009 by tritexengineering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuibeachcomber Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 I know a little about this subject....my car also shakes violently across the roadway sometimes....its also due to a loose nut behind the wheel try using petrol instead of vodka,shakes will disappear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.s Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 I know a little about this subject....my car also shakes violently across the roadway sometimes....its also due to a loose nut behind the wheel try using petrol instead of vodka,shakes will disappear dont you mean that the other way around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuibeachcomber Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 I know a little about this subject....my car also shakes violently across the roadway sometimes....its also due to a loose nut behind the wheel try using petrol instead of vodka,shakes will disappear dont you mean that the other way around? no t.s if he's using vodka as fuel in the quatities needed his car would get the shakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 SBC, Its got nothing to do with any of that....I'm just like thousands of other drivers here in los - M.A.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuibeachcomber Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 SBC,Its got nothing to do with any of that....I'm just like thousands of other drivers here in los - M.A.D. i know,was just having some fun,the answers to the problem had already been given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtp Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 I know a little about this subject....my car also shakes violently across the roadway sometimes....its also due to a loose nut behind the wheel try using petrol instead of vodka,shakes will disappear dont you mean that the other way around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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