mc2 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 but writing can be theraputic , I would guess this is his main motive at this stage, certainty not money. Money and fame was the motivation for the first scam... thats just idle speculation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee123 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 (edited) lets stop speculating ....THE FACTS ARE ; WRITER PUT IN JAIL FOR FICTION .....= WRONG Edited February 25, 2009 by dee123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 (edited) I agree that it is wrong that he was put in jail for fiction. He was put in jail for LM. Edited February 25, 2009 by sriracha john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee123 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 (edited) I agree that it is wrong that he was put in jail for fiction. He was put in jail for LM. I don't understand? wasn't his book fictional? Edited February 25, 2009 by dee123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 THE FACTS ARE ; WRITER PUT IN JAIL FOR FICTION Or you could say "writer delibirately breaks the law to get himself in jail". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee123 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 (edited) THE FACTS ARE ; WRITER PUT IN JAIL FOR FICTION Or you could say "writer delibirately breaks the law to get himself in jail". So fiction is illegal then. Oh dear! what about nursery rymes? Edited February 25, 2009 by dee123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GungaDin Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 (edited) Ok, hands up all those members who have read William Stevenson's "The Revolutionary King"? There's a page or two in there that scares the hel_l out of me Enough said. I think Stevo is now PNG. Not surprisingly. Edited February 25, 2009 by GungaDin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Ok, hands up all those members who have read William Stevenson's "The Revolutionary King"?Enough said. I think Stevo is now PNG. Can you believe that I discovered that that book has been stolen from my local library in the UK on a recent trip home? Must have been some of the LM apologists on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inf Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 He's not staying in Thailand, or is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GungaDin Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 He's not staying in Thailand, or is he? Back to sleep Inf...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Harry's not taking it lying down In an exclusive interview with Neos Kosmos, Australia's leading Greek newspaper, Harry speculates that the publication of his article on the Thai Police's lax attitude to child pornography probably led to his arrest on lese-majeste charges. "It put me on their radar" he says. He also offers some insights into the appalling conditions in Thai prison, describing guards as lazy, corrupt, self-servicing [sic] and beating inmates for no reason. Neos Kosmos hopes to soon get more on this story. Full article here:- http://www.neoskosmos.com.au/090223/nkew/c...ity_index.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Poor sod just can't get used to the fact that he is talentless mediocrity so he resorts to all kinds publicity stunts to get himself noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Isn't it the case that nobody with one exception (i Don't think I need to spell the details out) comes off well in this slightly absurd episode? - the talentless mediocrity who to a very major extent dropped himself in a sewage pit of his own making - the absurdly overwrought "prisoner of conscience" claim made by some sections of Australian academia and liberal opinion. - more parochially, the meanspirited and highly predictable hounding of this weak and unmanly (what's with the constant blubbing) individual by one or two forum ideologues. - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddiefunk Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I think he deserved what he got not for writing one lousy paragrapph in a stupid book but for trying to use his arrest to generate publicity. At this point it looks like he set himself up in the first place.I wouldn't cry about Thai justice system being unfair to someone who WANTS to get in jail himself, and not a homeless Thais but a westerner, who then might write a separate book to describe the "horrors". If it was so obvious he was doing this to generate publicity, why did Thailand take the bait? Why didn't they allow hime to leave the country as he intended, and simply ban him from returning? Nicolaides set the bait, he stands to profit greatly from his ordeal, while Thailand gains another scar on its international image. What he did may not be ethical or admirable, but if it was his plan, it seems to have worked with full cooperation of Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insight Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I think he deserved what he got not for writing one lousy paragrapph in a stupid book but for trying to use his arrest to generate publicity. At this point it looks like he set himself up in the first place.I wouldn't cry about Thai justice system being unfair to someone who WANTS to get in jail himself, and not a homeless Thais but a westerner, who then might write a separate book to describe the "horrors". If it was so obvious he was doing this to generate publicity, why did Thailand take the bait? Why didn't they allow hime to leave the country as he intended, and simply ban him from returning? Nicolaides set the bait, he stands to profit greatly from his ordeal, while Thailand gains another scar on its international image. What he did may not be ethical or admirable, but if it was his plan, it seems to have worked with full cooperation of Thailand. It wasn't obvious at the time. The revelation of his confession for wanting media attention has only come to light since his release, and not by his design either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 but writing can be theraputic , I would guess this is his main motive at this stage, certainty not money. Money and fame was the motivation for the first scam... no reason not to believe the second book won't be the same. But then, maybe "it was just a joke" to him. I guess mc2's 'phD in Thai cultural studies' was therapy for him. The poor Aussie that wrote this rather tragic book and then labeled it the way he did was either incredibly stupid (can someone that has lived in Thailand for any amount of time really be that stupid?) or like most of us seem to believe, looking for a bit of fame and it backfired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddiefunk Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 The poor Aussie that wrote this rather tragic book and then labeled it the way he did was either incredibly stupid (can someone that has lived in Thailand for any amount of time really be that stupid?) or like most of us seem to believe, looking for a bit of fame and it backfired. If he had planned this all along to get publicity, then he doesn't seem so stupid as it has worked well in this regard. You could accuse some parties of acting dumb in this saga, but I don't think it is the Aussie. If he was looking for fame, how did it backfire? I guess this thread about Nicolaides would have existed even if he was never arrested for LM? I'm not defending his actions, but they seem to have worked... he is likely to benefit financially because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 yeah .. his 'literary masterpiece' is now online for all and sundry to see how poorly he writes ... he's been convicted of a serious crime in Thailand and deported .... and I doubt even 7 people will buy his next masterwork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddiefunk Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 The poor Aussie that wrote this rather tragic book and then labeled it the way he did was either incredibly stupid (can someone that has lived in Thailand for any amount of time really be that stupid?) or like most of us seem to believe, looking for a bit of fame and it backfired. If he had planned this all along to get publicity, then he doesn't seem so stupid as it has worked well in this regard. You could accuse some parties of acting dumb in this saga, but I don't think it is the Aussie. If he was looking for fame, how did it backfire? I guess this thread about Nicolaides would have existed even if he was never arrested for LM? I'm not defending his actions, but they seem to have worked... he is likely to benefit financially because of it. My bad, Jdinasia, I didn't read your post carefully. If it is true that he didn't know that what he had published could get him in serious trouble, he does seem naive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 If he had planned this all along to get publicity, then he doesn't seem so stupid as it has worked well in this regard. Perhaps, but then I don't see reasons to sympathise with his ordeal either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rixalex Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 If he had planned this all along to get publicity, then he doesn't seem so stupid as it has worked well in this regard. Perhaps, but then I don't see reasons to sympathise with his ordeal either. Truth is nobody does. Just that some people on this forum see it as a chance to try and score some points against the current administration. Had their boy Takky been in charge they too would be calling him a sorry loser who got his just desserts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 some people on this forum see it as a chance to try and score some points against the current administration Really? Who would do something like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackspratt Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 yeah .. his 'literary masterpiece' is now online for all and sundry to see how poorly he writes ... he's been convicted of a serious crime in Thailand and deported ...... Yes, I guess that is what the more open minded posters on this subject are struggling to understand. As no doubt are many, many others outside Thailand. After all, the unfortunate Mr Nicolaides, whatever his alleged or inferred motives, is but a very minor player in the wider scheme of LM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Good news, it should never have happened to him. A poor political pawn. At least he WILL get a good book deal and a better career as a writer to make to for this. But I bet he'd prefered the time spent outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Good news, it should never have happened to him.A poor political pawn. At least he WILL get a good book deal and a better career as a writer to make to for this. But I bet he'd prefered the time spent outside. Come on, where else can you experience the pleasure of falling into a real sewerage pit? Or was he pushed by a Thai inmate who didn't like his book? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovenman Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Or was he pushed by a Thai inmate who didn't like his book? Everybody's a critic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 The Australian publication, Eureka Street, is reporting that Thailand still refuses to reveal who made the initial lese-majeste complaint against Harry Nicolaides. This is in contrast to the potentially more explosive lese-majeste accusations against Jonathan Head, the BBC correspondent, and Giles Ungpakorn, the Chulalongkorn professor, in which the person making the complaint has made himself known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samgrowth Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Good news, it should never have happened to him.A poor political pawn. At least he WILL get a good book deal and a better career as a writer to make to for this. But I bet he'd prefered the time spent outside. Come on, where else can you experience the pleasure of falling into a real sewerage pit? Or was he pushed by a Thai inmate who didn't like his book? He could be the new presenter of Discovery Channel "Dirty Jobs" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Good news, it should never have happened to him.A poor political pawn. At least he WILL get a good book deal and a better career as a writer to make to for this. But I bet he'd prefered the time spent outside. Welcome back Animatic! Been on holiday? re. this topic - have you not read that this was all a stunt by him to garner fame? Before the book's publication, in fact, Nicolaides rather cavalierly suggested that going to prison for lese majeste could bring him literary fame. http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Nicolaides-F...t&p=2551948 Do you believe that performance of his at Melbourne airport when he tearfully met his father? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7903267.stm "I'm nauseous, been crying for 8 hours, I hope that no other Australian has to go through the ordeal that I endured... blah blah blah, bull-shit, bull-shit, bull-shit." "Will you be going back to Thailand?" - "Yes." Total fake. No sympathy for him from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GungaDin Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 "^^^^^^^ Total fake. No sympathy for him from me. " Jetset. Have you spent 5 months in the same prison? Sure, a total fake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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