Mossfinn Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 How is the traditional pub trade coping with the world wide recession? The link I have provided shows it going through an awful down turn in the UK, so how has certain regulation affected it in Thailand, the most obvious being the smoking ban? Do you still go to the trad pub or are street bars more your thing? Moss Death of the Boozer-IoS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruthWillOut Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 the smoking ban, now it is being enforced, is really hurting the aircon places. Looks bad too to see all the patrons standing outside puffing away. I don't understand why they can't introduce encosed smoking/no smoking areas. Daft really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantilley Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 I know of at least one pub which has been severely affected by the smoking ban - especially as one just up the road was ignoring the law and allowing smoking inside, presumably after having a few quiet words with some people in high places... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kan Win Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 so how has certain regulation affected it in Thailand, the most obvious being the smoking ban? Do you still go to the trad pub or are street bars more your thing? Moss No, have not done that for a year or two now with the 'Dinking & Driving" laws which have woke me up a great deal, as I used to be a right 'Pistit' doing this and got away with it many, many time, but no <deleted> way anymore, now drinking at home and having more fun than ever knowing I am not that idiot that I was before. Good post "Mossfinn" Thank you Yours truly, Kan Win P.S. Cut down on me intake as well hence not too many silly posts from me as before on ThaiVisaDotCom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossfinn Posted March 18, 2009 Author Share Posted March 18, 2009 the smoking ban, now it is being enforced, is really hurting the aircon places. Looks bad too to see all the patrons standing outside puffing away. I don't understand why they can't introduce encosed smoking/no smoking areas. Daft really. Without knowing the law as it stands, I presume they can smoke in designated areas, but as long as it outside? So there is no room for having a designated smoking area within this law, because I am convinced I saw smoking rooms at Swampy. Thanks for the response Moss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossfinn Posted March 18, 2009 Author Share Posted March 18, 2009 I know of at least one pub which has been severely affected by the smoking ban - especially as one just up the road was ignoring the law and allowing smoking inside, presumably after having a few quiet words with some people in high places... Are pubs doing new things to attract new/older customers by changing the usual routine? What about Cafe/bars are they affected? Cheers Moss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossfinn Posted March 18, 2009 Author Share Posted March 18, 2009 Crikey Kan, you drank and drove, I thought driving alone was dangerous enough on Thai roads. With the views of your place I have seen, I wonder why you would leave for a smokey bar, just sit back, have a cold one and watch the sun go down. But as you have probably guessed, I have an ulterior motive for asking, I will be opening a cafe/bar in the future, not quite sure when, but the recession and my short fuse may well have significant factors. I hope you will come as an honoured guest.......... I will have Polish Sausage just for you. Good Luck Moss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilHarries Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 They promoted the no smoking regulation in the UK by saying that it would encourage non-smokers to go out more often. Well there has been absolutely no evidence of that and pubs are currently closing down at a rate of six per day. "Nuff said" to quote BT. How the similar ruling is affecting Thailand I can't say for sure as I prefer to drink in outside places (I don't travel to the tropics to sit in British summertime temperatures). Of the few a/c places I visit when back in country most seem to ignore the ban and trade seems to be unaffected (i.e. they still have some). But many of the outdoor bars, those with sides open to the street, don't allow smoking inside forcing the smokers to take one step out onto the sidewalk to have a cigarette. Crazy or what? . Last time I was in Pattaya the trade volume seemed to be about what I'd expect for the time of year (February) so I guess the lassez faire attitude to the ban is working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetravellingcat Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 They promoted the no smoking regulation in the UK by saying that it would encourage non-smokers to go out more often. Well there has been absolutely no evidence of that and pubs are currently closing down at a rate of six per day.... It was certainly refreshing to come home and not stink like an ash tray, being able to wear evening clothes more than once. After picking a job deliberately with anti-social hours i'm not going out at the evenings and weekends anymore. Coupled with the downturn there are a lot of people who prefer to stay in and socialise in their own houses now. Setting a minimum price for alcohol will be in hindsight, a good idea because booze has never been relatively cheaper in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkjames Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 They promoted the no smoking regulation in the UK by saying that it would encourage non-smokers to go out more often. Well there has been absolutely no evidence of that and pubs are currently closing down at a rate of six per day.... It was certainly refreshing to come home and not stink like an ash tray, being able to wear evening clothes more than once. After picking a job deliberately with anti-social hours i'm not going out at the evenings and weekends anymore. Coupled with the downturn there are a lot of people who prefer to stay in and socialise in their own houses now. Setting a minimum price for alcohol will be in hindsight, a good idea because booze has never been relatively cheaper in the UK. This is my complaint too, dam_n it. I really can't afford to wash my shirts and need to wear them over and over again. I have the same problem with my office shirts - dam_n heat. The remaining sentences make me want to have drink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kan Win Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 This is my complaint too, dam_n it. I really can't afford to wash my shirts and need to wear them over and over again. I have the same problem with my office shirts - dam_n heat.The remaining sentences make me want to have drink. May one offer you a bar then 'bkkjames' Yours truly, Kan Win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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