Too Hot?

[ajarnpim]

scorchingly hot, almost unbearable. anyone else suffering or are you enjoying it.

[StevieH]

it's bloody marvellous but somewhat sapping at the same time.

[samuibeachcomber]

scorchingly hot, almost unbearable. anyone else suffering or are you enjoying it.

No not really enjoying it,seems to get hotter every year.On Samui its too hot between midday and 4pm,too hot to go outside.I suffer without a/c till then.Just how i'd cope without a/c I DONT KNOW.Gotta be 40C plus.

[eek]

Im actuaIIy pretty good in the heat, even very warm. Its humidity thats my downfaII. Even if much Iower temperatures but high humidy, then im suffering. Right now its pretty dry, so i toIerate it weII.

In saying that, yesterday I was heIping out a friend at the market from mid morning to earIy afternoon. I fooIishIy didnt take in enough fIuids (so busy, i basicaIIy forgot to drink enough) and I started to feeI that uneasy way when you know you are getting a bit of sunstroke. I soon got some fIuids with saIt and sugar down me...but stiII, didnt feeI so great for a bit.

[ajarnpim]

youve really got to feel sorry for the construction workers, , postmen, bill deliverers, tuk tuk drivers.

The animals in zoos.

people with no electricity and or no fans or a/c. particularly the elderly or infirm. If this was europe there would be a lot of casualties ( Paris a few years ago, much less hot than it is here and now). Is anyone helping people here?

I also feel sorry for the people detained in immigration centres and also feel for prisoners in the jails.

where is the coolest place to be in Thailand right now?

[flying]

Chiang Mai was seemingly ok the past few months.

But boy I was in Bangkok on Saturday & was just dripping.

Even trying to go slow stay in the shade etc.........hahah

Like eek Said its the humidity that kills.

I can take dry heat & even humidity within reason.

I'm born & raised on Pacific Islands but BKK is like another world.

[WinnieTheKhwai]

where is the coolest place to be in Thailand right now?

7-Eleven.

Also there's an arctic Vodka bar in Pattaya that they manage to cool down to -18 or something similarly ridiculous..

It's funny, after leaving that one and returning to the typical Pattayan humidity you can actually feel your eyeballs fogging up. It's not very healthy. But then neither is Vodka. Or Pattaya. Ok I'll stop now.

[gpdjohn]

yeah, me too. ( was in Bangkok that is )

It does not seem hotter than here, but that humidty sure sucks the life out of ya.

I'm from the desert, where the temps are normally as hot or hotter than this.( 40c+ is normal) But there everywhere has air con or a pool to escape the heat. ( central air conditioning...why not here, oh yeah, I see the way the houses are built )

The last few days have just been kickin my butt. Yesterday, 6 cold showers, and that was before 6 pm. Today, just got out of the shower and have resorted to running the air con since around 1:30.

I'm suffering today. It's frickin HOT.

[Rasseru]

The heat has tempted me to look into getting an air conditioner for the bedroom.

Also, the pool in our building, which resides in the shade all day long and therefore usually more than merely a tad chilly, is positively delightful and refreshing now!

[ginnyten]

The heat has tempted me to look into getting an air conditioner for the bedroom.

Also, the pool in our building, which resides in the shade all day long and therefore usually more than merely a tad chilly, is positively delightful and refreshing now!

I don't remember being this uncomfortale last year or the year before. It must be due to the ageing process. run the A/C's like made. Electric bill was over 3,000 baht this month. I sleep about 10 hrs. a day and go to sleep very late usually. Don't even walk to the pool, which is less than a block away. Oh to be back in America now!!

[womblejamie]

moved up from samui to chiang mai and i thought it would be cooler but i actually reckon it bleedin hotter up here!!!!

[Ajarn]

Aircon while inside...

And this when I'm outside...

This heat is no hassle for me

Edited April 24, 2009 by Ajarn

[drtreelove]

scorchingly hot, almost unbearable. anyone else suffering or are you enjoying it.

Not too bad; I've lived in much worse and learned a few things to deal with it. I wrote an article a few years ago for Chiang Mai Mail so am attaching it in case others are interested in ways to adapt and cool down from the inside out. don

Beat_the_heat_2.pdf

[eek]

Thanks for that drtreeIove. Good tips.

[WinnieTheKhwai]

Central airconditioning = wasting energy.

That's why your country has the carbon footprint it has.

[kennkate]

Just checked Yhaoo Weather Chang Mai 38 C = 100 F at 4.30 pm and 31% Humidity

Me melting here. Must take another cold Shower. Sweat running of me Fans Only No Air

Dont Feel bad I keep Drinking water. No Beer.

Weather forcast on Yahoo says Thunder Showers PM tomorow and same Sat Sun and Monday

Temp up slightly tomorow then down on Sunday Monday I hope so

[JXXXL]

Aircon while inside...

And this when I'm outside...

This heat is no hassle for me

I'm green with envy, that looks lovely.

[mnbcm]

Aircon while inside...

And this when I'm outside...

This heat is no hassle for me

Is that a peace sign in the pool or photoshop? Sweet!

[Ajarn]

In the pool, assisted by Photoshop

[Rasseru]

Thanks for your tips on keeping cool, drtreelove. Let me share a way to keep cool that I did not see on your list.

I lived in Japan for many years, and learned to enjoy the hot springs and hot baths they have there. Among other things, they are great for getting thoroughly and toastily warm in the winter cold, particularly useful when most homes do not have central heating and are drafty.

Summers in Japan can get as hot and muggy as the winters are cold. It occurred to me one summer's day that if a hot bath is so good at heating one up in the winter, a cold bath might be as good at cooling down in the summer. Tried it and found it worked like a charm. Just like getting into a cold pool. Much better than a shower at quickly sucking out all the stored up heat. And much better than an air conditioned room. I like it best in a nice deep Japanese-style tub, but getting into any tub full of cold water is great. Spend at least ten or so minutes in it and you will feel cool and refreshed for up to an hour later . . . when you can get back in again!

[SGLanna]

yo, plant some trees around the place - rite where u are. proven to lower temps by a few degrees....

[Rasseru]

In the pool, assisted by Photoshop

One hopes that the assistance of Photoshop extended to all aspects of the appearance of the peace sign.

[Ulysses G.]

A good 2 hour massage done in a chilly, aircon room does wonders for me.

[john b good]

Aircon while inside...

And this when I'm outside...

This heat is no hassle for me

No need to post these sort of fotos Ajarn. What's your address by the way

[doggie888888]

Aircon while inside...

And this when I'm outside...

This heat is no hassle for me

My pool water is not refreshing these days..it's like a warm bath and rather disappointing. Is your pool water cool and refreshing? I wonder if it is to do with the high humidity in Pattaya.

[silverhawk_usa]

Well I can't afford a nice swimming pool, especially as it is a rental home, on the Ping north of Chiang Mai. So instead, I had this little grass shack built quite inexpensively. I also added the sprinklers, you may be able to see on the right over the garden, and another one on the other side. In the afternoon I take my book, my dog, my drink, and it works quite nice for "chilling out" in all seasons.

[Mapguy]

How about some well-charted facts! Where is Priceless when you really need him? A little climograph analysis with historical comparisons would indeed be interesting, especially since it is off season for air pollution! Sort of. Besides PCD has problems in recent days!

[ajarnpim]

primrose hill was beautiful, st tropez was sublime. firenze was gorgeous. KL was warm. arriving into CNX look out the window of plane..... smog.... stay here a few days.... heat.

I love chiang mai for the people but i wont continue to live here.

ITS JUST GLOBAL WARMING AND we are really feeling the brunt

Look out the window from eight miles up and see dried up rivers, the black sea no more.

what we need to do is to stop arguing stop fighting and try and save this pretty planet.

what we dont need is pedantic souls who say alles clar excuse my allemange.

This heat will continue to increase its not right and its not good. But at least the incumbent us pres has said there is a correlation with global warming and the planet heating up.

But some pr-icks say its ok. jusrt my 2ps worth.

Holocaust of the elderly: death toll in French heatwave rises to 10,000

By John Lichfield in Paris

Friday, 22 August 2003

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The summer of 2003 will be remembered as the year of the holocaust of

the French elderly.

The summer of 2003 will be remembered as the year of the holocaust of

the French elderly.

France was reeling yesterday from figures that suggested some 10,000

people - mostly over the age of 75 - were killed by this month's

heatwave, double the previous estimate.

As a political storm raged over blame for the deaths, President Jacques

Chirac called an emergency cabinet meeting and promised an inquiry to

examine "with complete openness" the failings of the health and welfare

system.

Half the victims are believed to have died in old people's homes, many

operating with fewer staff during the August holidays. Many hospitals

had closed complete wards for the month and were unable to offer

sophisticated, or sometimes even basic, treatment to victims. About

2,000 people are thought to have died in their homes from the effects

of dehydration and other heat- related problems while neighbours and

relatives were away.

Such was the death rate - described officially as a period of "surplus

mortality" - that families are now having to wait for up to two weeks

for a funeral because of a shortage of coffins, priests and grave-

diggers.

M. Chirac, who has been criticisedfor refusing to break off his two-

week holiday in Quebec, promised in a nationwide address yesterday that

"everything will be done to correct the shortcomings" exposed by the

disaster. "Many fragile people died alone in their homes," he admitted.

Senior health officials have claimed ministers reacted slowly to

warnings in early August that a calamity was in the making, while the

Health Minister, Jean-François Mattei, has insisted he was not given

adequate advice. By the time he and the Prime Minister, Jean-Pierre

Raffarin, broke off holidays last week and ordered the emergency recall

of hospital staff, the worst of the 10-day heatwave was over. Earlier

this week, the director general of health, Lucien Abenhaim, resigned,

complaining ministers had ignored his warnings, including a plea that

military and Red Cross hospitals should be commandeered to ease the

burden on state hospitals.

Many healthcare professionals - including the doctor, former health

minister and founder of Médécins Sans Frontières, Bernard Kouchner -

said it had been a disaster waiting to happen. "We are all to blame,"

Dr Kouchner said, irritating many of his colleagues on the left, who

had hoped the crisis would help them to destabilise the centre-right

government and head off health reforms planned this autumn.

Dr Michel Dèsmaizieres, an emergency service doctor in Paris, told the

newspaper Libération: "It is just not right to see [patients on]

trolleys in the corridors, while whole wards were empty and locked up.

In the retirement homes there were people with a body temperature of

42C [108F], for whom we could offer nothing but a little comfort."

M. Mattei, also a former doctor, reluctantly admitted earlier this week

that as many as 5,000 extra deaths were recorded - 80 per cent of them

old people - in the first half of this month. However, France's largest

funeral directors' association has now calculated that there were at

least 10,000 extra deaths in the period up to Wednesday of this week,

many of them on 12 August when temperatures peaked at more than 100F

(37.8C) in northern France. About half the extra deaths were in the

Paris area.

Government officials described these figures as "plausible" but urged

caution until an official investigation was completed next month.

Dr Marc Harboun, a specialist geriatrics from Ivry, near Paris, said:

"This death rate is due to a lack of people and means to reduce the

temperature [of the patients]. Medically, we could cope by increasing

the dosage in transfusions but, for the other things we needed to do -

making the patients drink, dampening them down - we didn't have the

time."

Officials said 85 per cent of all public and private retirement homes

in France were permanently understaffed. At holiday times, staffing

levels fell even further.

One woman, Claude Guérin, described how she took her elderly aunt to a

hospital on the Côte d'Azur, suffering from pulmonary problems brought

on by the heat. "She was 96, but she was fighting fit before the

heatwave," said Mme Guérin.

"At first she was put in an air-conditioned revival room but then she

was abruptly transferred to a ward where it was 50C [122F]. I talked to

two nurses. One said: 'I don't have time to bother with her.' The other

said: 'Get her out of here.' But the doctors would not let her go.

Three days later, she died."

[Mapguy]

primrose hill was beautiful, st tropez was sublime. firenze was gorgeous. KL was warm. arriving into CNX look out the window of plane..... smog.... stay here a few days.... heat.

I love chiang mai for the people but i wont continue to live here.

ITS JUST GLOBAL WARMING AND we are really feeling the brunt

Look out the window from eight miles up and see dried up rivers, the black sea no more.

what we need to do is to stop arguing stop fighting and try and save this pretty planet.

what we dont need is pedantic souls who say alles clar excuse my allemange.

This heat will continue to increase its not right and its not good. But at least the incumbent us pres has said there is a correlation with global warming and the planet heating up.

But some pr-icks say its ok. jusrt my 2ps worth.

Holocaust of the elderly: death toll in French heatwave rises to 10,000

By John Lichfield in Paris

Friday, 22 August 2003

Share Digg It del.icio.us Facebook Reddit Print Article Email Article

Text Size

NormalLargeExtra Large

The summer of 2003 will be remembered as the year of the holocaust of

the French elderly.

The summer of 2003 will be remembered as the year of the holocaust of

the French elderly.

France was reeling yesterday from figures that suggested some 10,000

people - mostly over the age of 75 - were killed by this month's

heatwave, double the previous estimate.

As a political storm raged over blame for the deaths, President Jacques

Chirac called an emergency cabinet meeting and promised an inquiry to

examine "with complete openness" the failings of the health and welfare

system.

Half the victims are believed to have died in old people's homes, many

operating with fewer staff during the August holidays. Many hospitals

had closed complete wards for the month and were unable to offer

sophisticated, or sometimes even basic, treatment to victims. About

2,000 people are thought to have died in their homes from the effects

of dehydration and other heat- related problems while neighbours and

relatives were away.

Such was the death rate - described officially as a period of "surplus

mortality" - that families are now having to wait for up to two weeks

for a funeral because of a shortage of coffins, priests and grave-

diggers.

M. Chirac, who has been criticisedfor refusing to break off his two-

week holiday in Quebec, promised in a nationwide address yesterday that

"everything will be done to correct the shortcomings" exposed by the

disaster. "Many fragile people died alone in their homes," he admitted.

Senior health officials have claimed ministers reacted slowly to

warnings in early August that a calamity was in the making, while the

Health Minister, Jean-François Mattei, has insisted he was not given

adequate advice. By the time he and the Prime Minister, Jean-Pierre

Raffarin, broke off holidays last week and ordered the emergency recall

of hospital staff, the worst of the 10-day heatwave was over. Earlier

this week, the director general of health, Lucien Abenhaim, resigned,

complaining ministers had ignored his warnings, including a plea that

military and Red Cross hospitals should be commandeered to ease the

burden on state hospitals.

Many healthcare professionals - including the doctor, former health

minister and founder of Médécins Sans Frontières, Bernard Kouchner -

said it had been a disaster waiting to happen. "We are all to blame,"

Dr Kouchner said, irritating many of his colleagues on the left, who

had hoped the crisis would help them to destabilise the centre-right

government and head off health reforms planned this autumn.

Dr Michel Dèsmaizieres, an emergency service doctor in Paris, told the

newspaper Libération: "It is just not right to see [patients on]

trolleys in the corridors, while whole wards were empty and locked up.

In the retirement homes there were people with a body temperature of

42C [108F], for whom we could offer nothing but a little comfort."

M. Mattei, also a former doctor, reluctantly admitted earlier this week

that as many as 5,000 extra deaths were recorded - 80 per cent of them

old people - in the first half of this month. However, France's largest

funeral directors' association has now calculated that there were at

least 10,000 extra deaths in the period up to Wednesday of this week,

many of them on 12 August when temperatures peaked at more than 100F

(37.8C) in northern France. About half the extra deaths were in the

Paris area.

Government officials described these figures as "plausible" but urged

caution until an official investigation was completed next month.

Dr Marc Harboun, a specialist geriatrics from Ivry, near Paris, said:

"This death rate is due to a lack of people and means to reduce the

temperature [of the patients]. Medically, we could cope by increasing

the dosage in transfusions but, for the other things we needed to do -

making the patients drink, dampening them down - we didn't have the

time."

Officials said 85 per cent of all public and private retirement homes

in France were permanently understaffed. At holiday times, staffing

levels fell even further.

One woman, Claude Guérin, described how she took her elderly aunt to a

hospital on the Côte d'Azur, suffering from pulmonary problems brought

on by the heat. "She was 96, but she was fighting fit before the

heatwave," said Mme Guérin.

"At first she was put in an air-conditioned revival room but then she

was abruptly transferred to a ward where it was 50C [122F]. I talked to

two nurses. One said: 'I don't have time to bother with her.' The other

said: 'Get her out of here.' But the doctors would not let her go.

Three days later, she died."

Priceless! Where are you when we really need you?! The pollution bit won't be back for many, many months!

[flying]

I have a cooling tip that works well from back in my triathlon days.

Just take that cold drink or bottle your holding & press it against the crook of your arm.

You know...the inside of your elbow...Where they take blood etc.

It is a very big artery & will cool you down quickly to hold a glass of ice water or a bottle there.