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I witness a strange altercation yesterday, and it has been bugging me ever since.

I was driving along the access road between Sukhumvhit and Rama IV alongside the expressway when I saw a stopped empty tuk-tuk ahead of me.  Passing it, anotehr 100 meters head, on the sidewalk up against the long wall there, I saw what looked ot be two people getting cozy.  As i got closer, I realized that it was something else.

A woman or possibly a ladyboy was prone on the sidewalk, a man on top of her.  The man had one arm around in back of the woman's neck, another hand was grabbing one of the woman's hands and looking to pry something out it  it, maybe keys.  The man had an angry look on his face, and he was basically motionless.

The woman was on her back, and her expression looked very distressed.  But she was looking at the man, his face maybe 8inches from hers, and she was flicking her tongue in and out of her mouth at him, much like a snake or something.

I took all of this in at the last second as I passed them, and then as I pondered what to do, other cars kept passing them and pushing up behind me.  So I didn't stop, and there is along stretch of road there before I could have pulled over and done a u-turn.

I am not sure if I should even have stopped, and my Thai is certainly not good enough to figure out what was happening.  But I feel guilty none-the-less, and I keep wondering if I shouldn't have done something.

Anyway, I just needed to get all that off my chest.

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Your question should be: Why does we as farangs feel guilty for not helping out and not seemingly others?

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Your question should be: Why does we as farangs feel guilty for not helping out and not seemingly others?

different set of morals

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On Suk soi 11 last year I saw something similar, but less physical. A little up the soi from the motorcycle taxis one guy had a ladyboy by the wrist. She was definitely dressed for clubbing with a very short dress so I assume her destination was Bed Supper Club or Q Bar. Anyway I think she had her hand closed but at some point I think her hand opened and a bunch of coins fell. I thought it was some kind of argument until the coins dropped, although he wasn't saying a word and she was saying a lot. He was just holding her wrist, keeping her from getting away. So, near as I can figure, she had pickpocketed one of the motorcycle taxi drivers and gotten caught. Or perhaps ripped off a merchant like a food vendor.

What amazed me was how long the guy was able to hold her wrist without changing hands. She was taller than him and by her voice clearly a ladyboy, and was struggling the whole time. I left before the police showed up so I'm not sure how it all resolved.

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Most mobiles have cameras on them and some have video functions. You could take photos. (from a safe distance).

:)

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I witness a strange altercation yesterday, and it has been bugging me ever since.

I was driving along the access road between Sukhumvhit and Rama IV alongside the expressway when I saw a stopped empty tuk-tuk ahead of me.  Passing it, anotehr 100 meters head, on the sidewalk up against the long wall there, I saw what looked ot be two people getting cozy.  As i got closer, I realized that it was something else.

A woman or possibly a ladyboy was prone on the sidewalk, a man on top of her.  The man had one arm around in back of the woman's neck, another hand was grabbing one of the woman's hands and looking to pry something out it  it, maybe keys.  The man had an angry look on his face, and he was basically motionless.

The woman was on her back, and her expression looked very distressed.  But she was looking at the man, his face maybe 8inches from hers, and she was flicking her tongue in and out of her mouth at him, much like a snake or something.

I took all of this in at the last second as I passed them, and then as I pondered what to do, other cars kept passing them and pushing up behind me.  So I didn't stop, and there is along stretch of road there before I could have pulled over and done a u-turn.

I am not sure if I should even have stopped, and my Thai is certainly not good enough to figure out what was happening.  But I feel guilty none-the-less, and I keep wondering if I shouldn't have done something.

Anyway, I just needed to get all that off my chest.

It's weird because you feel like you should help but its also a safe feeling that you didn't help and end up in some kind of trouble.

Probably best too keep out of it and let them sort it out between themselves - not a good feeling but live to tell the tail on TV another day.

I saw 2 Thais having a go last week on Sukhumvit one motorbike taxi and the other was a random Thai no idea what was going on but the other motorbike boys did nothing and neither the policeman who was directing traffic - my mrs said it was probably local mafia and nobody wants to get involved. They were holding each others wrists and pointing and shoving each other much like as described in other posts.

Looks like they dont want to use fisticuffs if they can solve the issue verbally... at least in these situations.

loads of people looking on - i felt like creating a circle around them and start clapping my hands while shouting fight fight fight....

just like school days ;-)

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Your question should be: Why does we as farangs feel guilty for not helping out and not seemingly others?

different set of morals

One morning two years ago i went out on the street and successfully stopped a fight between two Thai guys,one of them i tought he was a friend.Discovered later that the "friend" is the most hated guy in town,really a thorn in the side for the local community.I was lucky i didn't get a punch myself.Like most people in the west,i've been taught to protect the women and the helpless,but in Thailand doesn't apply the same.If you are a farang and you want to stay out of troubles,just mind your business and stay safe.

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