Three Aussie Murderers Fled To Thailand

[selftaopath]

Thai police efficient in locking up Australians for beer mats and donuts will have to show how quick they are when they have named and pictured murderers at hand.

If Oz police knows they have fled to Thailand, then Thais should have their pictures and names already from the airport where they landed.

Isn't LOS (Lack of Sanctions) #3 on the most corrupt country in Asia? In LOS, have infulencial/financially secure individuals commited murder w/out sanctions? How about some other items the ???? "police" look into e.g. nightclub fire, ..............didn't the police watch Thai's PM's car being destroyed recently? LOL ah I suppose a question could be: What do the police really do - legally?

[connel707]

Assuming it's not the relative of anyone important in Thailand, they'll find them eventually.

Not necessarily.

I know Western criminals who have lived in Thailand for years on false passports and never been caught.

New Costa del Crime.

Easy to get false documents here, and easy to disappear into the morass of other dodgy foreigners here.

Not to mention easy to cross land borders. Not all of Thailand's 55 checkpoints are computerised.

Many Western criminals also live in Melbourne and are disguised as policeman , Melbourne must have the most corrupt police force in the modern world, just take a look at Paul Mullet , the would be Police Union Secretary, more like a Mafia Don.. Don Mullet. and the huge amount of drug abuse in Melbourne.... No wonder the police are living in fear of Tony Mokbels trial and the amount of cops he had on his payroll.... The very first 6 policeman recruited in Melbourne were taken from the English prison there...nothing changes..

[jalansanitwong]

To DUKKA I actually agree with parts of what you said although i do not call people chinks or slopes. Rudd is a typical useless feel good Labor PM who does nothing to progress Australia industrially just increase taxes and say nothing in the hope of being re-elected. The only PM's worse than him were Malcolm Fraser and of course Whitlam who almost bankrupted us.(he had help from Connor,Crean & Cameron). Getting back to the Unions Their leaders are the only people with power in Australia who are not elected by the members. Every month millions of dollars pour into union bank accounts thanks to a law which forces employers to deduct fees regardless of whether you want to be a member or not! If unionism wasnt compulsory in the public service and other areas there would hardly be any unionists left in Australia! What is the figure now? less than 20% i bet. The former head of the Police union Mullet took 1.4 million dollars!!!!!Yes.over a million dollars as his pension. Where did the money come from.? He is not an entrepenuer or risk taker. That insidious employer basher(socialist) didnt mind the good life did he??? They are all painted with the same brush ie Hawke, Gallagher,Kelty ,Crean The list goes on and on. They will always represent the people but heaven forbid they should have to live with the people(prolateriate). Where does Hawke live? Lalor? Broady? You know !!

[Thailand]

I know Western criminals who have lived in Thailand for years on false passports and never been caught.

You obviously live in interesting circles.

[Priceless]

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Isn't LOS (Lack of Sanctions) #3 on the most corrupt country in Asia? In LOS, have infulencial/financially secure individuals commited murder w/out sanctions? How about some other items the ???? "police" look into e.g. nightclub fire, ..............didn't the police watch Thai's PM's car being destroyed recently? LOL ah I suppose a question could be: What do the police really do - legally?

No, it isn't. Here's an extract from the most recent Transparency International ranking:

lower Rank = higher Score = less corrupt

Thailand would come in at #17 from the bottom. Please note that I left out the Middle Eastern and Eurasian countries, a lot of which are more corrupt than Thailand.

/ Priceless

[Phatcharanan]

Assuming it's not the relative of anyone important in Thailand, they'll find them eventually.

Not necessarily.

I know Western criminals who have lived in Thailand for years on false passports and never been caught.

New Costa del Crime.

So why didn't you report them to the authorities? Let me guess...............it ain't your problem. Or you,re waffling, which is more likely.

[Oberkommando]

Not to mention easy to cross land borders. Not all of Thailand's 55 checkpoints are computerised.

There are only 55 roads out of Thailand ..... well, you learn something new every day.

I said checkpoints, as in official entry/exit points, not roads.

You obviously live in interesting circles.

I don't choose to associate with these people, but they certainly exist.

So why didn't you report them to the authorities? Let me guess...............it ain't your problem. Or you,re waffling, which is more likely.

Oh, I'm not waffling. You only have to watch the local news or read this forum to see the amount of Western criminals arrested in Thailand.

Edited May 26, 2009 by Oberkommando

[doggie888888]

I know Western criminals who have lived in Thailand for years on false passports and never been caught.

You obviously live in interesting circles.

Mayb he lives in Pattaya

[moe666]

Another good man killed after a night on the town. I don't think I will be visiting Australia any time soon it doesn't sound safe and the corrupt police had to be on the take allowing the killers to skip out. Another nail in the coffin of Austrailian tourism. What is this a third world country disguised as a first world country.

[chiangdan]

the title of this thread indicates the 3 suspected murderers are Australian ? is that correct ?

I'm guessing that they Australian but of Asian descent.

umm maybe not. If you know the Brunswick area of Melbourne then you would know that this is almost 100% Turkish and Lebonese area. I bet my gonads that when they are arrested as they will be that they will not have anglo names. They would also be dual citizens travelling on two passports. Not true aussies I bet. Just wait and see the postings when they are arrested..

[chiangdan]

Assuming it's not the relative of anyone important in Thailand, they'll find them eventually.

Not necessarily.

I know Western criminals who have lived in Thailand for years on false passports and never been caught.

New Costa del Crime.

Easy to get false documents here, and easy to disappear into the morass of other dodgy foreigners here.

Not to mention easy to cross land borders. Not all of Thailand's 55 checkpoints are computerised.

Many Western criminals also live in Melbourne and are disguised as policeman , Melbourne must have the most corrupt police force in the modern world, just take a look at Paul Mullet , the would be Police Union Secretary, more like a Mafia Don.. Don Mullet. and the huge amount of drug abuse in Melbourne.... No wonder the police are living in fear of Tony Mokbels trial and the amount of cops he had on his payroll.... The very first 6 policeman recruited in Melbourne were taken from the English prison there...nothing changes..

<deleted> hey I am a cop in Melbourne and you know diddly shit. Where do you get this from? OMG you got a parking ticket didn't you. Got caught on a speed camera and let me guess you think the police operate the cameras? All those things are private companies and not the police. You got caught breaking into someones house and blame the police because they infringed on your civil rights to do as you please. If it wasn't for the damm police you wouldn't have a criminal record now.

[reallyok]

If they're in Thailand the AFP/ThaiPolice will pick them up soon enough.

Your confidence in the Thai Police is misplaced.

Hambali moved around in Thailand unchecked for months. There was one of Scotland Yard's top ten most wanted living in Pattaya for many years on false passports - a British citizen but wanted for murder in Australia.

Many more incidents of incompetence and negligence to choose from but those are two that spring to mind.

The main reason Thailand is the new 'Costa del Crime' is it so easy to get away here.

When they catch them, i hope that they keep them at the "BKK Hilton" for 6 months while the extradition process slowly grinds on.

Anyhow, what has happened to the Russian Arms Dealer who is wanted in the USA ?

[goofie]

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Edited May 27, 2009 by goofie

[stevegee]

I did an online search thinking I would find a heap of information from online news papers like the "Straits Times" and found it did not get a mention.

Then I did a search for murders/Thailand and found heaps of murder suspects sought and apprehended or on a wanted list.

Then I read the spin from the AFP which varies depending on which version of the article you read.

Then I read Jetstars spin as to where the aircraft was flying 5 hours from Melbourne. At 800km/h it as 4000 km out or near Indonesia.

But it could have diverted to Darwin or Christmas Island or Cocos island.

One story says in Australian Airspace, another reaport says over Idon airspace and out of reach.

Another says they were concerned for safety of the aircraft and decided to let it fly on.

I guess meaning that if it turned back to Darwin the suspects might have produced a plastic knife or fork and taken the plane hostage.

So I guess that either ...

The COPS know the identity (given CCTV) is everywhere at Melbourne Airport.

And did not want to Spook the suspects into doing a runner (which correct me if I am wrong but they did a great example of a runner).

The suspects would have to be shitting bricks and in dicussion... wouldnt you?

Or they were cool as cucumbers and not letting any suspicion fall their way.

Ther are no CCTV pics w have been shown of the events leading to the assault, which there always is whenever any other assault has surfaced lately.

(Police would like to interview the following suspects).

Jetstar would have latest online seven news playing in the cabin every hour for the flight.

The COPS DONT KNOW the IDENTITY (unlikely).

The question is that if they had a suspect why did not the Thai Border Police at the airport put everyone into transit lounge immediately?

COPS say they are only alleged suspects.

Evidence.

So forsensic will have the CAR, the DNA and piece together the case slowly and surely and hopefully the suspects wont be out of reach in any one of a dozen countries.

All the rest of the comments by the media are pure speculation.

I suspect they can run but not hide unles they go native bush forever.

Watch this space.

Edited May 27, 2009 by stevegee

[sriracha john]

If they're in Thailand the AFP/ThaiPolice will pick them up soon enough.

When they catch them, i hope that they keep them at the "BKK Hilton" for 6 months while the extradition process slowly grinds on.

Thai police let stab suspects go

Two men wanted in connection with the stabbing murder of good samaritan Luke Mitchell were arrested when they arrived in Thailand and released after questioning.

A high-ranking source in the Thai police force said the men were arrested at Bangkok's Suvarnabhumi Airport and taken to the Crime Suppression Division Headquarters for interrogation.

The source said they were released after questioning as they had not committed a crime in Thailand.

He said Thai police were waiting for an extradition request from Australia before they would pursue the matter.

Mr Mitchell, 29, was attacked in Brunswick early on Sunday after stepping in to stop a brawl. He walked away from the initial fight and was fatally stabbed a short distance away.

Two of thee suspects are known to have fled to Thailand shortly after the murder, with reports indicating that Australian police knew they were on board a Jetstar flight.

Jetstar has said it received no formal police request to turn around an aircraft containing a suspect.

A spokeswoman said that Australian Federal Police told the airline's operations centre at about 7pm on Sunday that a "person of interest" was on flight JQ29 between Melbourne and Bangkok.

She said the man paid about $1000 cash for a return ticket at some point between 11am and 1pm that day.

The flight departed at about 2pm from Tullamarine Airport.

According to the spokeswoman, the AFP contacted the airline about five hours into the journey, when the aircraft was out of Australian airspace. "The first information we received regarding the passenger … was when the aircraft was … in closer proximity to Bangkok," she said.

"We … had no formal request to bring the aircraft back to Australia."

Victoria Police Chief Commissioner Simon Overland has said that international extraditions are difficult. He said he was unaware of reports that federal police had been alerted that the men were on a flight to Bangkok and the authorities were not in a position to turn flights back to Australia.

"There's nothing we could do, or could have done, to stop them. In one case, we did not even know who they were until they left the country," Mr Overland said earlier this week.

He also said police now knew the identity of the two suspects.

Victoria and federal police refused to comment on the issue last night.

- The Age (Australia) / 2009-05-30

[Livinginexile]

They are probably already in Vietnam being hidden by relatives . . .

Correct

For sure they are vietnamese australians.

No way they will face justice now.

[Livinginexile]

If they're in Thailand the AFP/ThaiPolice will pick them up soon enough.

When they catch them, i hope that they keep them at the "BKK Hilton" for 6 months while the extradition process slowly grinds on.

Thai police let stab suspects go

Two men wanted in connection with the stabbing murder of good samaritan Luke Mitchell were arrested when they arrived in Thailand and released after questioning.

A high-ranking source in the Thai police force said the men were arrested at Bangkok's Suvarnabhumi Airport and taken to the Crime Suppression Division Headquarters for interrogation.

The source said they were released after questioning as they had not committed a crime in Thailand.

He said Thai police were waiting for an extradition request from Australia before they would pursue the matter.

Mr Mitchell, 29, was attacked in Brunswick early on Sunday after stepping in to stop a brawl. He walked away from the initial fight and was fatally stabbed a short distance away.

Two of thee suspects are known to have fled to Thailand shortly after the murder, with reports indicating that Australian police knew they were on board a Jetstar flight.

Jetstar has said it received no formal police request to turn around an aircraft containing a suspect.

A spokeswoman said that Australian Federal Police told the airline's operations centre at about 7pm on Sunday that a "person of interest" was on flight JQ29 between Melbourne and Bangkok.

She said the man paid about $1000 cash for a return ticket at some point between 11am and 1pm that day.

The flight departed at about 2pm from Tullamarine Airport.

According to the spokeswoman, the AFP contacted the airline about five hours into the journey, when the aircraft was out of Australian airspace. "The first information we received regarding the passenger … was when the aircraft was … in closer proximity to Bangkok," she said.

"We … had no formal request to bring the aircraft back to Australia."

Victoria Police Chief Commissioner Simon Overland has said that international extraditions are difficult. He said he was unaware of reports that federal police had been alerted that the men were on a flight to Bangkok and the authorities were not in a position to turn flights back to Australia.

"There's nothing we could do, or could have done, to stop them. In one case, we did not even know who they were until they left the country," Mr Overland said earlier this week.

He also said police now knew the identity of the two suspects.

Victoria and federal police refused to comment on the issue last night.

- The Age (Australia) / 2009-05-30

I wonder how much that cost them?

[eljeque]

I wonder why they were questioned.... and nothing else

The Thai police must have been aware of who they were.

What was the point in questioning them?

What did they hope to learn?

Simply protocal?

I would not want alleged murderers arriving in my country and running free.

Is anyone aware of their names yet?

Two men wanted in connection with the stabbing murder of good samaritan Luke Mitchell were arrested when they arrived in Thailand and released after questioning.

A high-ranking source in the Thai police force said the men were arrested at Bangkok's Suvarnabhumi Airport and taken to the Crime Suppression Division Headquarters for interrogation.

The source said they were released after questioning as they had not committed a crime in Thailand.

He said Thai police were waiting for an extradition request from Australia before they would pursue the matter.

[sriracha john]

Luke Mitchell Photo: Channel Nine News

Farewell for stab victim Luke Mitchell

Luke Mitchell, the good Samaritan who was stabbed to death when he came to the aid of another man, will be farewelled at a funeral service in Melbourne this morning.

Mr Mitchell, 29, of Sanctuary Lakes died from stab wounds after he was attacked in Brunswick early on Sunday May 24 after stepping in to stop a brawl. He later died in hospital.

Two of thee suspects are known to have fled to Thailand shortly after the murder, with reports indicating that Australian police knew they were on board a Jetstar flight.

On the weekend The Age reported two men wanted in connection with the stabbing murder of Mr Mitchell were arrested when they arrived in Thailand and released after questioning.

A high-ranking source in the Thai police force said the men were arrested at Bangkok's Suvarnabhumi Airport and taken to the Crime Suppression Division Headquarters for interrogation.

The source said they were released after questioning as they had not committed a crime in Thailand.

He said Thai police were waiting for an extradition request from Australia before they would pursue the matter.

Today, Victoria Police could not provide any updated information on the extradition process.

Mr Mitchell's funeral service will be held at St Paul's Anglican Cathedral on the corner of Swanston and Flinders Streets in Melbourne at 10.30am.

- The Age (Australia) / 2009-06-03

[Scott]

The Thai police pick the strangest times to be law abiding--like letting murders loose. I am quite sure that immigration has the right, or at a minimum, no penalty for refusing entry to people suspected of crimes.

[soundman]

Thai red tape delays moves to bring Luke Mitchell's killers to justice

Article from:

Mark Buttler and Brendan Roberts

July 22, 2009 12:00am

IT could be a year before the fugitive suspects in the shocking good Samaritan murder are brought back to Melbourne to face justice.

The wanted men have been at large in Thailand for two months since flying out within hours of the death of Luke Mitchell, who was bashed to death in Brunswick after going to the aid of a man.

Homicide squad detectives and Luke's family face a long wait before the investigation goes any further.

Australia has an extradition treaty with Thailand and paperwork has been prepared if the two men are arrested.

The decision will then be made by the Thai Cabinet.

Melbourne investigators identified two suspects within hours of the brutal attack on Luke Mitchell in the early hours of May 24.

The men fled to Thailand later that day.

Luke's brother Shane told the Herald Sun the family had to be patient for justice.

"We are still hoping for a result but we are mindful that these things can take a long time," he said.

"Its frustrating that the case is still open, but we're focusing on using this time to mourn for Luke."

"Of course we're hopeful, but it's a delicate situation and the police are conducting it the best way they see fit."

Mr Mitchell was killed after helping to stop an attack on a man near a nightclub in Sydney Rd.

After leaving the scene of the confrontation, he was assaulted and stabbed outside a nearby 7-Eleven store at the corner of Brunswick and Sydney roads. He died in hospital a few hours later.

Police believe his attackers drove to the 7-Eleven in a Mercedes after arming themselves with knives from a nearby brothel.

One of the suspects was already on a flight out of Melbourne when he was identified.

Police and Jetstar say the flight was well out of Australian air space by the time he was identified.

In any case, police say they did not at that early stage have an arrest warrant with which to detain him if the Bangkok-bound flight, JQ29, was turned back.

The suspect paid cash for a return ticket to Bangkok and left just under 12 hours after Mr Mitchell died.

Police believe the return ticket was a simpler and less suspicious way of leaving Australia.

[Oberkommando]

They are probably already in Vietnam being hidden by relatives . . .

Correct

For sure they are vietnamese australians.

No way they will face justice now.

They are Thai-Australians according to the Australian news networks.

[stumonster]

good to see an update.

I was wondering about this case yesterday - and the Australian Police seem hesitant to name the people they wish to talk to.

sons of whom ?

[samuibeachcomber]

Endofdays...what a load of hogwash.....the only correct comment you made is this thread is not about unions...!

"well i'm a union man and thats the way i am"

[TAWP]

They are Thai-Australians according to the Australian news networks.

That would explain why they were happy to let them go after a talk.

[Netfan]

The Thai police pick the strangest times to be law abiding--like letting murders loose. I am quite sure that immigration has the right, or at a minimum, no penalty for refusing entry to people suspected of crimes.

That is strange - why couldn't they have been refused entry into Thailand, been held at immigration at the airport for a few hours and sent back to Australia on the next flight out? Happens all the time. That should have given the Aussie police time to tie things together in the courts down there for a warrant.

[Oberkommando]

The Thai police pick the strangest times to be law abiding--like letting murders loose. I am quite sure that immigration has the right, or at a minimum, no penalty for refusing entry to people suspected of crimes.

That is strange - why couldn't they have been refused entry into Thailand, been held at immigration at the airport for a few hours and sent back to Australia on the next flight out? Happens all the time. That should have given the Aussie police time to tie things together in the courts down there for a warrant.

Because they are Thai-Australian and entered Thailand on their Thai passports.

[NanLaew]

The Thai police pick the strangest times to be law abiding--like letting murders loose. I am quite sure that immigration has the right, or at a minimum, no penalty for refusing entry to people suspected of crimes.

That is strange - why couldn't they have been refused entry into Thailand, been held at immigration at the airport for a few hours and sent back to Australia on the next flight out? Happens all the time. That should have given the Aussie police time to tie things together in the courts down there for a warrant.

Because they are Thai-Australian and entered Thailand on their Thai passports.

Fact? Anything to corroborate this statement? I mean it makes perfect sense and would explain why they were only detained momentarily on arrival. But I haven't seen any names published yet so it's hard to differentiate between fact and good 'ol TV armchair detectives fiction here.

"Book 'em Danno!"

[Oberkommando]

The Thai police pick the strangest times to be law abiding--like letting murders loose. I am quite sure that immigration has the right, or at a minimum, no penalty for refusing entry to people suspected of crimes.

That is strange - why couldn't they have been refused entry into Thailand, been held at immigration at the airport for a few hours and sent back to Australia on the next flight out? Happens all the time. That should have given the Aussie police time to tie things together in the courts down there for a warrant.

Because they are Thai-Australian and entered Thailand on their Thai passports.

Fact? Anything to corroborate this statement? I mean it makes perfect sense and would explain why they were only detained momentarily on arrival. But I haven't seen any names published yet so it's hard to differentiate between fact and good 'ol TV armchair detectives fiction here.

"Book 'em Danno!"

Sorry I can't corroborate with a link nor reveal my source but it is common knowledge over in Melbourne where I was last week. They are apparently still in Thailand and all three suspects have been identified by the Police and in the media as of Asian ethnicity which indicates they are very likely to be Thai.

You can rest assured my information is 100% correct.

[bulmercke]

What a depressing thread. Due process has - yet again - failed to be seen to be done.

Shame on the Thai authorities.

Luke Mitchell. Poor guy.