Burger Joints Close

[gatorhead333]

get goin,

hey "i try to get out but they keep pulling me back" and 1993 was 16 years ago !! get current with the actual law of the land.

here is the FDA code below:you are using article from industry conferance !! get it industry! not the FDA.. not the guys that keep us safe but the guys that package and push our mass produced food for huge profits.ie. business men !

you can grab many many articles from biz conferance supporting easy happy go lucky biz! but what is important here?

COMMON SENSE!!!

READ THE FDA LAW MARCH 8,2008

nothing said can change the known scientific facts about clean safe food prep! business men will always take short cuts when they can i guess.

Long Hand of the Law

The FDA Food Code prohibits bare hand contact with ready-to-eat foods under section 3-301.11 Preventing Contamination from Hands.

—Lisa Whitlock, regional food specialist, FDA, email March 8, 2008

The bare-hand issue is nothing new. Extensive FDA research concludes that many viruses are spread through hands, and food is an excellent vehicle for pathogens, so workers are required to use serving utensils, tongs, single-use gloves, deli tissue or dispensing equipment when touching it.

When the new Cal Code went into effect, however, it replaced the California Uniform Retail Food Facilities Law (CURFFL) as the governing legislation for retail food facilities throughout the state. The goal was to update food vendor rules to bring them in line with national guidelines focusing on current risk factors for food-borne illness as identified by the Centers for Disease Control.

It was an enormous undertaking, spanning a full decade of discussion between numerous boards and restaurant industry professionals throughout the state. When the California Department of Public Health drafted the final language, it resulted in an exhaustively detailed 132-page manual.

Before it was unveiled, chefs and kitchen workers were encouraged to attend county food handler's programs outlining the changes. There they learned that while the Sonoma County Environmental Health Division (SCEHD) now "discourages" using bare hands, according to division director Walter Kruse, it does in fact allow it.

Except that maybe it doesn't. Or maybe, depending on how you interpret CURFFL, it has all along.

Edited August 5, 2009 by gatorhead333

[madcatlady]

So, another Burger Bar closes ! First it was the Texas place opened across the road from Mike's Original, Thapae.

Now Joe's Jets have skidded !

Looks like it's back to Mike's Original. At least they are still there and always open.

Must mean something.

Maybe the vegetarians are refusing to be converted...

MCL

[Thakkar]

Patrons at a table in a restaurant watch approvingly as the conscientious waiter uses tongs to serve them bread. He even uses his tongs to serve them the cool disinfected towels to wipe their hands with. The patrons express their approval to the waiter and he says that, yes thy are required to avoid use of their hands.

"For example," he says, "see this string sticking out of my zipper? Well, the string is tied to my penis and if I need to go, I use the string to pull out my penis to pee."

"Impressive," says the diner. "When you're done peeing, how do you put it back in?"

"I don't know about the others," replied the waiter as he shot a few furtive glances around the dining room, "but I use these tongs."

[Ulysses G.]

[Farangdanny]

So, another Burger Bar closes ! First it was the Texas place opened across the road from Mike's Original, Thapae.

Now Joe's Jets have skidded !

Looks like it's back to Mike's Original. At least they are still there and always open.

Must mean something.

Maybe the vegetarians are refusing to be converted...

MCL

If they are it doesn't matter, COS MIKE'S NOW SELL VEGGEE BURGERS AND SALAD BUNS. !!! THEY GOT IT ALL

[Maejo Man]

If they are it doesn't matter, COS MIKE'S NOW SELL VEGGEE BURGERS AND SALAD BUNS. !!! THEY GOT IT ALL

Time to get off your soapbox!!

[elektrified]

If they are it doesn't matter, COS MIKE'S NOW SELL VEGGEE BURGERS AND SALAD BUNS. !!! THEY GOT IT ALL

Time to get off your soapbox!!

Certainly seems this member has shares in the company to be promoting this fast food joint as much as he is.

[Donnyboy]

So, another Burger Bar closes ! First it was the Texas place opened across the road from Mike's Original, Thapae.

Now Joe's Jets have skidded !

Looks like it's back to Mike's Original. At least they are still there and always open.

Must mean something.

Maybe the vegetarians are refusing to be converted...

MCL

If they are it doesn't matter, COS MIKE'S NOW SELL VEGGEE BURGERS AND SALAD BUNS. !!! THEY GOT IT ALL

any bbq rat?

Edited August 6, 2009 by Donnyboy

[Ulysses G.]

If they are it doesn't matter, COS MIKE'S NOW SELL VEGGEE BURGERS AND SALAD BUNS. !!! THEY GOT IT ALL

Time to get off your soapbox!!

Certainly seems this member has shares in the company to be promoting this fast food joint as much as he is.

Mike's Burgers are not made locally. They are made by American specialist burger company in Bangkok. The last process they go through is a comprehensive bacteriological test. They are 100% prime beef (guaranteed), with 20% fat, which is nesessary. A burger without fat would be hard, dry and not too tasty.

He certainly knows every last detail.

[getgoin]

get goin,

hey "i try to get out but they keep pulling me back" and 1993 was 16 years ago !! get current with the actual law of the land.

here is the FDA code below:you are using article from industry conferance !! get it industry! not the FDA.. not the guys that keep us safe but the guys that package and push our mass produced food for huge profits.ie. business men !

you can grab many many articles from biz conferance supporting easy happy go lucky biz! but what is important here?

COMMON SENSE!!!

READ THE FDA LAW MARCH 8,2008

nothing said can change the known scientific facts about clean safe food prep! business men will always take short cuts when they can i guess.

Long Hand of the Law

The FDA Food Code prohibits bare hand contact with ready-to-eat foods under section 3-301.11 Preventing Contamination from Hands.

—Lisa Whitlock, regional food specialist, FDA, email March 8, 2008

The bare-hand issue is nothing new. Extensive FDA research concludes that many viruses are spread through hands, and food is an excellent vehicle for pathogens, so workers are required to use serving utensils, tongs, single-use gloves, deli tissue or dispensing equipment when touching it.

When the new Cal Code went into effect, however, it replaced the California Uniform Retail Food Facilities Law (CURFFL) as the governing legislation for retail food facilities throughout the state. The goal was to update food vendor rules to bring them in line with national guidelines focusing on current risk factors for food-borne illness as identified by the Centers for Disease Control.

It was an enormous undertaking, spanning a full decade of discussion between numerous boards and restaurant industry professionals throughout the state. When the California Department of Public Health drafted the final language, it resulted in an exhaustively detailed 132-page manual.

Before it was unveiled, chefs and kitchen workers were encouraged to attend county food handler's programs outlining the changes. There they learned that while the Sonoma County Environmental Health Division (SCEHD) now "discourages" using bare hands, according to division director Walter Kruse, it does in fact allow it.

Except that maybe it doesn't. Or maybe, depending on how you interpret CURFFL, it has all along.

Home » Business Topics » Food Safety » Bare Hand Contact vs. Gloves

© 2009 Penton Media Inc.

You would think that someone who was so hip to everything from the local college scene to, well, everything, would be able to read the date on the article.

Please read the industry standard literature.

Blah, blah, blerb, uh, uh, oh, dribble and more dribble. When the shoe fits...

Edited August 6, 2009 by getgoin

[getgoin]

Farangdanny, what about those single use gloves? Change them with every burger?

[getgoin]

Patrons at a table in a restaurant watch approvingly as the conscientious waiter uses tongs to serve them bread. He even uses his tongs to serve them the cool disinfected towels to wipe their hands with. The patrons express their approval to the waiter and he says that, yes thy are required to avoid use of their hands.

"For example," he says, "see this string sticking out of my zipper? Well, the string is tied to my penis and if I need to go, I use the string to pull out my penis to pee."

"Impressive," says the diner. "When you're done peeing, how do you put it back in?"

"I don't know about the others," replied the waiter as he shot a few furtive glances around the dining room, "but I use these tongs."

Exactly!

[keo]

WEnt to Mikes on Nimman last night for the first time in over a year, and was reminded why I don't eat there - tasteless crap. And not exactly cheap either - 177 Baht for the original 150 gram burger set.

Next time I have a craving for junk food, I'll save some money by going to McDs.

[elektrified]

WEnt to Mikes on Nimman last night for the first time in over a year, and was reminded why I don't eat there - tasteless crap. And not exactly cheap either - 177 Baht for the original 150 gram burger set.

Next time I have a craving for junk food, I'll save some money by going to McDs.

Try Spankys. You can get much higher quality food there for a fraction of the cost.

[gatorhead333]

WEnt to Mikes on Nimman last night for the first time in over a year, and was reminded why I don't eat there - tasteless crap. And not exactly cheap either - 177 Baht for the original 150 gram burger set.

Next time I have a craving for junk food, I'll save some money by going to McDs.

Try Spankys. You can get much higher quality food there for a fraction of the cost.

the spankys blows the mike place away and you can see them cook your food there too ,very clean set up in eye view!!! try the canadian bacon & cheese heart attack burger @ 70 baht ,the roast beef with cheese fills the bill too.

mikes is hit or miss but remember mikes is a real francise there are 4 of them or so ,may have one place doing better than the other ,they are a true francise one of the only sucessful ones done in CM so three cheers for mikes abilities!!

again you can see food prep just like spankies and they are open very late so mikes is open late that is good for points if you are hungry!.

while other restaurant owners can only joke about clean, safe food prep... a very rare few here in CM get it, are educated in food safety and really try to follow safe food handling practices. Most all of these restaurants are the smaller, owner run and operated places meaning owner in the kitchen cooking most of the time!! There are some fine dining clean places serving fine food , one french place comes to mine ,while some smaller places serving burgers.... special roast beef and chilli dogs >>> The Spankies.. #1!!

Spankies is the best deal for the money and the owner is quite pleasant ! I have yet to be in there and had him hungover and all surly mouthed !every time a smile a fun guy!

So he is aware and serving good ,clean food at a fair price. the chilli cheese dog is a treat too!

Enjoy!good food at low fair price prepared in a clean setting you can observe! spankies is tops! they close at 10:00 though

Edited August 6, 2009 by gatorhead333

[Farangdanny]

WEnt to Mikes on Nimman last night for the first time in over a year, and was reminded why I don't eat there - tasteless crap. And not exactly cheap either - 177 Baht for the original 150 gram burger set.

Next time I have a craving for junk food, I'll save some money by going to McDs.

Oh well, you can't please all the people all the time !

If you would rather eat small meat patties flavoured with Monosodium Glutomate, that's your choice. I think 150 gms. of top quality beef seasoned with more than 8 different seasonings, 200gms of fries imported from USA and a good size drink for 177 Baht is better value. What's the weight of a BigMac and their fries ?

[gatorhead333]

WEnt to Mikes on Nimman last night for the first time in over a year, and was reminded why I don't eat there - tasteless crap. And not exactly cheap either - 177 Baht for the original 150 gram burger set.

Next time I have a craving for junk food, I'll save some money by going to McDs.

Oh well, you can't please all the people all the time !

If you would rather eat small meat patties flavoured with Monosodium Glutomate, that's your choice. I think 150 gms. of top quality beef seasoned with more than 8 different seasonings, 200gms of fries imported from USA and a good size drink for 177 Baht is better value. What's the weight of a BigMac and their fries ?

mr. Fdangle, You are kinda pushing te limits here.

this was a burger bars closed which had morphed into several side lines of total fun crappola.but enough is enough. if u have another closed burger bar to talk about revieve this thread later at that date.

now some people do not likes mikes ..big deal. some people do not like Mc D's so what.. Burger king may be a different story..who really cares. for most people burgers are not living and dying in CM.

you have to know when to let a dead dog lie. do not try to recessatate this threat >> burger joints close-- this thread is dead.

Edited August 7, 2009 by gatorhead333

[Thakkar]

I wonder how much mike's veggie burgers are, and are they anything like the veggie burgers at Burger King?

[getgoin]

While we are on the burger bars closed subject, Farangdanny, what happened to the Mike's in the night bazaar?

[gatorhead333]

last week i ate at the night bizzo mikes on loy krow that is where i learned they were so clean wearing plastic gloves ,etc etc. the burger was good this was the 4th time in my life eating at a mikes ,one at the main location on thaepae gate, then in the kaew mall ,then out on neieminhamin about a month ago then at loy crow beeer bar center thats four is there another one? i did not know this was so large a franchises but now i hear they are in bangkok and opening in the USA too! maybe another Burger king we got here!

anyway all places were consistant and o.k. but again it is justs a burger and the Spankie bacon cheese heartattack burger blows them all away in CM!best taste ,best deal clean place u can see the grill and it always gives my chest good solid pains late a night. (joke)

[Thakkar]

In the interest of balance, tell us more about Spanky's, Gatorhead.

[Farangdanny]

WEnt to Mikes on Nimman last night for the first time in over a year, and was reminded why I don't eat there - tasteless crap. And not exactly cheap either - 177 Baht for the original 150 gram burger set.

Next time I have a craving for junk food, I'll save some money by going to McDs.

Try Spankys. You can get much higher quality food there for a fraction of the cost.

the spankys blows the mike place away and you can see them cook your food there too ,very clean set up in eye view!!! try the canadian bacon & cheese heart attack burger @ 70 baht ,the roast beef with cheese fills the bill too.

mikes is hit or miss but remember mikes is a real francise there are 4 of them or so ,may have one place doing better than the other ,they are a true francise one of the only sucessful ones done in CM so three cheers for mikes abilities!!

again you can see food prep just like spankies and they are open very late so mikes is open late that is good for points if you are hungry!.

while other restaurant owners can only joke about clean, safe food prep... a very rare few here in CM get it, are educated in food safety and really try to follow safe food handling practices. Most all of these restaurants are the smaller, owner run and operated places meaning owner in the kitchen cooking most of the time!! There are some fine dining clean places serving fine food , one french place comes to mine ,while some smaller places serving burgers.... special roast beef and chilli dogs >>> The Spankies.. #1!!

Spankies is the best deal for the money and the owner is quite pleasant ! I have yet to be in there and had him hungover and all surly mouthed !every time a smile a fun guy!

So he is aware and serving good ,clean food at a fair price. the chilli cheese dog is a treat too!

Enjoy!good food at low fair price prepared in a clean setting you can observe! spankies is tops! they close at 10:00 though

How interesting. It seems that Spankies is the same guy that was involved in the failed Texas place opposite Mike's Thapae. What makes him think it will be better round the corner in a worse location ?

[Ulysses G.]

Cheaper prices.

He does seem to be doing better in the new location, so maybe he he knows what he is doing.

[Maejo Man]

WEnt to Mikes on Nimman last night for the first time in over a year, and was reminded why I don't eat there - tasteless crap. And not exactly cheap either - 177 Baht for the original 150 gram burger set.

Next time I have a craving for junk food, I'll save some money by going to McDs.

Oh well, you can't please all the people all the time !

If you would rather eat small meat patties flavoured with Monosodium Glutomate, that's your choice. I think 150 gms. of top quality beef seasoned with more than 8 different seasonings, 200gms of fries imported from USA and a good size drink for 177 Baht is better value. What's the weight of a BigMac and their fries ?

I also think Mike's is tasteless and inordinately greasy, and even the lowly Burger King out classes it.

[Ulysses G.]

[Maejo Man]

I still maintain that Woody's had the best burger in town

[Ulysses G.]

Woody's Aussie Burger is really hard to beat.

[brommers]

So, another Burger Bar closes ! .. . snip ... Must mean something.

Sawasdee Khrup, Khun Farangdanny,

An epidemic of good taste ?

best, ~o:37;

Maybe if more burger places close we will reduce the air pollution problem in Chiang Mai.

[venturalaw]

Woody's Aussie Burger is really hard to beat.

Use to live down the street (walking distance) from Woody's. I'd stop by for a burger at least once a week. Miss them since moving to San Sai.

Edited August 7, 2009 by venturalaw

[getgoin]

WEnt to Mikes on Nimman last night for the first time in over a year, and was reminded why I don't eat there - tasteless crap. And not exactly cheap either - 177 Baht for the original 150 gram burger set.

Next time I have a craving for junk food, I'll save some money by going to McDs.

Oh well, you can't please all the people all the time !

If you would rather eat small meat patties flavoured with Monosodium Glutomate, that's your choice. I think 150 gms. of top quality beef seasoned with more than 8 different seasonings, 200gms of fries imported from USA and a good size drink for 177 Baht is better value. What's the weight of a BigMac and their fries ?

I also think Mike's is tasteless and inordinately greasy, and even the lowly Burger King out classes it.

But what about Farangdanny, the new owner of Mike's Burger, he is the new owner, I am guessing. Has anyone tried the new burger? I have to say that I am going to do it.

He says 8 different seasonings? Well I would hope that 8 seasonings would be different. Otherwise it would be 7 seasonings or 6 seasonings with some that were the same???????

What about the gloves? Personally, I say get rid or the gloves if you are using them, unless you are using 7 seasonings and when staff is going to the loo with the gloves on say, we use all the 8 different seasonings. Might be good for business.