Fly Screens

[Donnyboy]

Well call me stupid but where I come from the fly screens on your window are on the out side of your glass window. But not in my house So every time I want to open the window I have to open the fly screen first by that time all the flies ( I don't mind them ) but all the mosquitoes come in before I close the fly screen. I s that normal in Thailand to attach the fly screens on the inside or did I have one of those good thai tradesman

where do you come from?

UK

Australia

USA

NZ

point is, indoor ones arent uncommon

[fred2007]

ok maybe they are not but just imagin you have a sliding window the flyscreen is on the in site and you like to get some fresh air in to your room so you have to open the fly sceen first to open your window ok? By that time many bugs get in. If you have the fly sreen on the out site you can open your window any time without getting any bugs come in correct?

[doggie888888]

Well call me stupid but where I come from the fly screens on your window are on the out side of your glass window. But not in my house So every time I want to open the window I have to open the fly screen first by that time all the flies ( I don't mind them ) but all the mosquitoes come in before I close the fly screen. I s that normal in Thailand to attach the fly screens on the inside or did I have one of those good thai tradesman

I have louver windows and the insect screens are on the outside. So no need to play with the screens when opening/shutting louvers.

[pattaya_girl]

I have sliding Windows and Patio Door and my Mosquito nets are on the inside. I would not like them on the outside as it would spoil the look.

My windows are Dark Mirror effect, if the nets were on the outside it would look awful. When the Mosquitos are bad, I can sometimes see them through the net, waiting to get in, so I spray Mosquito spray close to the net, and they go away.

One things for sure though, whether on the outside or the inside, we definately need them.

Has anyone ever slept anywhere without nets ? Must be terrible.

[Donnyboy]

I have sliding Windows and Patio Door and my Mosquito nets are on the inside. I would not like them on the outside as it would spoil the look.

My windows are Dark Mirror effect, if the nets were on the outside it would look awful. When the Mosquitos are bad, I can sometimes see them through the net, waiting to get in, so I spray Mosquito spray close to the net, and they go away.

One things for sure though, whether on the outside or the inside, we definately need them.

Has anyone ever slept anywhere without nets ? Must be terrible.

not really, we have windows & doors open during the day but close them before sunset, i do however make sure theres no puddles of water around our place where the buggers can breed, and have the fan running at night in our room,mossies hate the moving air

[Donnyboy]

but if youre paranoid about not getting bitten at night, buy one of these babies, they work!

the plug in type

[pattaya_girl]

Or there is the Mosquito Repellant cream. It is really good, I carry it with me when we eat out in outdoor Restaurents as they always seem to go for my ankles. Its an orange and white tube called ' OFF Family' by Johnson. It keeps them away for hours.

[garyh]

but if youre paranoid about not getting bitten at night, buy one of these babies, they work!

the plug in type

What and live in a cloud of poison? You gotta be mad.

[GungaDin]

No cloud & they do work.

[garyh]

I know they work but there is an invisible cloud of poison. How do you think they work? Its the poison that does the job.

[Donnyboy]

I know they work but there is an invisible cloud of poison. How do you think they work? Its the poison that does the job.

main ingredient is allethrin which is a pyrethroid

but looking at the MSDS of Mortein suggests that it isnt harmful unless ingested ie drinking it

in any case, i would rather have one plugged in occassionally to ward off mozzies that may carry malaria

drink alcohol?

[ballpoint]

Fly screens on the inside of sliding windows is just plain stupid, see them open fly screen, open the window, close flyscreen, oh its starting to rain, open fly screen, close window, close fly screen, rain stopped open fly screen, open window, close fly screen, next door starts burning leaves, open fly screen, close window, close fly screen, smoke stopped, open fly screen, open window, close fly screen, sounds silly but I have watched exactly this happen.

Why close the fly screen when the window is already closed? Can your flies permeate through glass?

[garyh]

Fly screens on the inside of sliding windows is just plain stupid, see them open fly screen, open the window, close flyscreen, oh its starting to rain, open fly screen, close window, close fly screen, rain stopped open fly screen, open window, close fly screen, next door starts burning leaves, open fly screen, close window, close fly screen, smoke stopped, open fly screen, open window, close fly screen, sounds silly but I have watched exactly this happen.

Why close the fly screen when the window is already closed? Can your flies permeate through glass?

I am just say what I saw, why did they close the screens after closing the window? Do you understand why Thai people do the things that they do? I know there many things I don't understand could not be bothered trying to work it out. this was a recently retired high ranking army officer, he has aircon in the house but never uses it, but if he wants an afternoon sleep goes out to his car and sleeps in it with the aircon running why?????? see above

[skipvice]

Doors and Windows according to my wife and the old man is this. windows always open out so when you open them in the morning you are allowing good things to enter the house. when I ask what ? I was told lucky things ? Doors always open in, so when you open it inwards it allows money to enter. so that is her take on it. It must work because it been costing me money all the time.

[AmeriThai]

Screens on the inside could be a hassle for sliding windows depending on the kind of screens. We have flyscreens on the inside as well. But the screens are on hinges and have handles which allow them to be easily opened inward. Security bars are installed between the screens and windows, are hinged and secured with sliding bolts that allow for opening in case of emergency. The windows are on the outside abd hinged to open outward. Hooks attached to the bottom of the windows can be slid into slots on the window frame to keep the windows open. Latches secure the windows when closed. The arrangement means having the screens opened when opening or closing the windows, but it's so brief that insects don't really have time to get in, and hinges help simplify things but still provide security.

[GungaDin]

Screens on the inside could be a hassle for sliding windows depending on the kind of screens. We have flyscreens on the inside as well. <snip>

G'day Amerithai.

Are you back in the jungle?

[AmeriThai]

Screens on the inside could be a hassle for sliding windows depending on the kind of screens. We have flyscreens on the inside as well. <snip>

G'day Amerithai.

Are you back in the jungle?

Greeting GungaDin! I wish I were. Feeling a bit homesick. No, I'm still stuck abroad with pressing matters. The Mrs. is over there for 5 weeks.

[Thai at Heart]

Took all the mosi nets off 2 months ago. Infinitely less mosquitoes in the house.

They do nothing more than trap mossies on them at night.

[IMA_FARANG]

Well call me stupid but where I come from the fly screens on your window are on the out side of your glass window. But not in my house So every time I want to open the window I have to open the fly screen first by that time all the flies ( I don't mind them ) but all the mosquitoes come in before I close the fly screen. I s that normal in Thailand to attach the fly screens on the inside or did I have one of those good thai tradesman

Believe it or not....I have those in my house (recently renovated). My Thai wife specified and supervised much of the work. I asked her why the screens were inside, not outside. I got her "stupid Farang" look and she said, "If the screens were outside, how could I open the windows?".

And then I realised:

1. The windows DO open out.

2. They are on the ground floor...so she goes outside to open them each morning. Closes them at night.

3. The breeze comes in through the screens during the day, but the flies/mosquitos don't.

And by the way...on the 2nd floor (air-conditioned) the screens are outside, and the windows inside. So you can raise the window from inside if you want to.

Just one more thing I had to learn about Thailand I guess.

[JetsetBkk]

I rarely close any windows - they are mostly open at 45º. The only windows I do close and keep closed are in the main bedroom to keep out noise.

Sometimes when it's really windy - so that the curtains are at 45º - I do close them, but that's mostly to stop the curtains knocking things over or to stop internal doors being blown shut.

I lived in one house where the louvre windows could be wound open without opening the bug screen - the winder went through the screen.

[GungaDin]

<snip>

I lived in one house where the louvre windows could be wound open without opening the bug screen - the winder went through the screen.

I have those in the "Granny Flat" downstairs.

It's a neat system, I'd not seen it before, in Aus. or anywhere else.

[Heng]

Well call me stupid but where I come from the fly screens on your window are on the out side of your glass window. But not in my house So every time I want to open the window I have to open the fly screen first by that time all the flies ( I don't mind them ) but all the mosquitoes come in before I close the fly screen. I s that normal in Thailand to attach the fly screens on the inside or did I have one of those good thai tradesman

You should give more specific orders the next time you have screens installed. Either that or you should tell the owner of the place you are renting how he should have built/furnished HIS property.

[klikster]

Once when I questioned why screens always seem to be inside, the guy looked at me like I was crazy and gave 2 answers:

1 - Protection from the rain

2 - Someone can steal them

He was serious about both reasons.

There is an additional reason, IMO, to have the screens on the outside .. that means having the aluminum track laid correctly/reversed. It's then very easy to lay a length of wood or PVC in the track that prevents the slider from opening beyond a certain point .. narrow enough to prevent a body from worming past, yet wide enough to get some ventilation.

[JetsetBkk]

<snip>

... very easy to lay a length of wood or PVC in the track that prevents the slider from opening beyond a certain point .. narrow enough to prevent a body from worming past, yet wide enough to get some ventilation.

Exactly what I do in the 3rd bedroom that's been converted into a washing machine room. I lay a long piece of 2x2" wood along the track so the glass window can be opened a few inches for ventilation, but very difficult for anyone to reach around and lift the wood off.

Mind you, I still lock and bolt the inner door if I go out.

[Donnyboy]

<snip>

... very easy to lay a length of wood or PVC in the track that prevents the slider from opening beyond a certain point .. narrow enough to prevent a body from worming past, yet wide enough to get some ventilation.

Exactly what I do in the 3rd bedroom that's been converted into a washing machine room. I lay a long piece of 2x2" wood along the track so the glass window can be opened a few inches for ventilation, but very difficult for anyone to reach around and lift the wood off.

Mind you, I still lock and bolt the inner door if I go out.

just a point regarding that as a security measure, on some makes of sliding doors/windows, they can be lifted off the bottom rails, and then the complete door/window can come out.

[fred2007]

<snip>

... very easy to lay a length of wood or PVC in the track that prevents the slider from opening beyond a certain point .. narrow enough to prevent a body from worming past, yet wide enough to get some ventilation.

Exactly what I do in the 3rd bedroom that's been converted into a washing machine room. I lay a long piece of 2x2" wood along the track so the glass window can be opened a few inches for ventilation, but very difficult for anyone to reach around and lift the wood off.

Mind you, I still lock and bolt the inner door if I go out.

just a point regarding that as a security measure, on some makes of sliding doors/windows, they can be lifted off the bottom rails, and then the complete door/window can come out.

Right, but all you have to do drill acouple of holes on the top of your sliding window just below the frame screw in a couple of self tapping srews here you go the window can not be lifted and taking out from the outsite

[JetsetBkk]

<snip>

... very easy to lay a length of wood or PVC in the track that prevents the slider from opening beyond a certain point .. narrow enough to prevent a body from worming past, yet wide enough to get some ventilation.

Exactly what I do in the 3rd bedroom that's been converted into a washing machine room. I lay a long piece of 2x2" wood along the track so the glass window can be opened a few inches for ventilation, but very difficult for anyone to reach around and lift the wood off.

Mind you, I still lock and bolt the inner door if I go out.

just a point regarding that as a security measure, on some makes of sliding doors/windows, they can be lifted off the bottom rails, and then the complete door/window can come out.

Thanks for the info - my window could easily come out if lifted about 2 mm. The only thing stopping it is a very flimsy looking strip of aluminium, bent at right angles and riveted to the bottom edge of the frame so it provides a very thin vertical obstacle that I reckon could easily be bent flat.

Just as well I got the blue metal screen fitted: