baht&sold Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Red-shirts plan major rallies The red-shirts will, under the theme “Daeng Tang Duan” (Red All Month), hold three major anti-government demonstrations this month, Natthawut Saikua, a core leader of the United front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), said on Thursday afternoon. “On October 11, the day that the 1997 constitution was officially enforced, the red-shirts will rally at the Victory Monument and call for a return to the 1997 charter,” Mr Natthawut said. The red-shirt will also hold a mass gathering at Government House again on Oct 17 to demand a progress report on the UDD’s petition seeking a royal pardon for fugitive former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, Mr Natthawut said. Article continues, here... -- Bangkok Post 1 Oct 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baht&sold Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 Next red-shirt rally to be held on Oct 17 The red shirts plan to organise their next political rally on October 17 to mark the 60 days of their submission of a petition for royal pardon to fugitive expremier Thaksin Shinawatra. Nattawut Saikua, spokesman for the red shirt movement, said Thursday that this month would be full of activities by the Democratic Alliance against Dictatorship. Starting from this coming weekend, red shirt leaders would hold the second seminar for followers in Khon Kaen under the "Red Academy" project. Then at the following weekend, another seminar would be organised in Pattaya City of Chon Buri, he said. Article link -- The Nation 1 Oct 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasreeve17 Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Peaceful protests inline with civil order are a good way to vent your feelings... let's hope these rallies stay this way, like the last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baht&sold Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 The red shirts plan to organise their next political rally on October 17 to mark the 60 days of their submission of a petition for royal pardon to fugitive expremier Thaksin Shinawatra.Nattawut Saikua, spokesman for the red shirt movement, said Thursday that this month would be full of ... Fill in the blanks... Given recent developments, this October (more than typically) promises to be an eventful month... unfortunately/predictably... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
givenall Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Peaceful protests inline with civil order are a good way to vent your feelings... let's hope these rallies stay this way, like the last. Everyone, time for rain dance again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 The red shirts plan to organise their next political rally on October 17 to mark the 60 days of their submission of a petition for royal pardon to fugitive expremier Thaksin Shinawatra.Nattawut Saikua, spokesman for the red shirt movement, said Thursday that this month would be full of ... Fill in the blanks... Given recent developments, this October (more than typically) promises to be an eventful month... unfortunately/predictably... Actually, I don't think so, and I hope I am right. The feeling I get these days is the reds have fizzled out with a whimper. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 ^Let's hope not - vigorous protest is good for democracy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 ^Let's hope not - vigorous protest is good for democracy!! What democracy? This is Thailand. Thaksin himself said at Black Songkran, there will be a winner, and there will be a loser. Which of those do you reckon he is now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 (edited) The red shirts plan to organise their next political rally on October 17 to mark the 60 days of their submission of a petition for royal pardon to fugitive expremier Thaksin Shinawatra.Nattawut Saikua, spokesman for the red shirt movement, said Thursday that this month would be full of ... Fill in the blanks... Given recent developments, this October (more than typically) promises to be an eventful month... unfortunately/predictably... Actually, I don't think so, and I hope I am right. The feeling I get these days is the reds have fizzled out with a whimper. We'll see. Yeh, the dwindling reds had been too silent lately so this present outburst of democratic activism was almost overdue. Sounds very much like "Return of the Red Zombies Part 24" playing before bored audiences everywhere. Edited October 1, 2009 by Publicus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanothercybertosser Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Yeh, the dwindling reds had been too silent lately so this present outburst of democratic activism was almost overdue.Sounds very much like "Return of the Red Zombies Part 24" playing before bored audiences everywhere. Just because things are not reported in the medias does not mean that the Red Shirts are either dwindling or inactive. On the opposite - they have been very busy upcountry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Yeh, the dwindling reds had been too silent lately so this present outburst of democratic activism was almost overdue.Sounds very much like "Return of the Red Zombies Part 24" playing before bored audiences everywhere. Just because things are not reported in the medias does not mean that the Red Shirts are either dwindling or inactive. On the opposite - they have been very busy upcountry. Up where? Media are reporting these announcements by the reds of their planned demonstrations in Bangkok during their Red October. That's because there is news to report which is specific to Bangkok, involves public demonstrations by a group with a well known history of public "activities" and which is prominently associated with a fugitive former prime minister. So that's news: proximate, timely, current, of interest to many, controversial and possibly involving conflict. It's the media doing their job. To me it's more artificial atmospherics by Red Zombies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullpen Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 (edited) Yawn. Those paid-for Red thugs are at it again? At least their leaders are continuing to voice that their foremost concern is not democracy, but the inappropriate petition to free Thaksin of his convictions. So much for their faked bleating about any other issue. Hopefully they won't riot and injure more people than they already have. Edited October 1, 2009 by bullpen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 (edited) Sounds like the "Hunt for Red October" re-run - just not as interesting. Edited October 1, 2009 by Artisi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 (edited) The quesation is when will Thaksin feel despearate enough to pump a last large chunk of cash into a rally and let his acolytes loose off the leash? He specifically held off last time, saying he was waiting for a better moment. As the assets trial winds up or down, so will wind up his nervousness, and sense of impotence. He doesn't deal with impotence too well based on past observations.... I can bet that Abhisit's UN speech put Thaksin off his feed for a day. There were several reports that the money has been brought in for some purpose. When will that 'push come to shove', or is it, 'putcsh come to shove'? Edited October 2, 2009 by animatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Isn't funny how no one comments on what they are protesting about but rather on their right to protest? And it was the same with Sept 19 rally last month - everybody here and in the media talked about what didn't happen (violence), and no one remembers what they wanted to convey to the public. Of course it's the same old same old - the stupid petition and return of 1997 constitution. On the constitution issue - it's a total red mess. If they want the 97 chapter - why don't they talk to their MPs? They've got Jatuporn, their leader, as an prominent MP in the opposition camp. What's Jatuporn's position here, btw? What does he want - six point amendments done in parliament without people participation, or is he backing the street movement for 97 version? And in parliament - how those MPs can talk about amendments for reconciliation when the red shirts do not want them and campaign for the old version instead? My questions are for pro-red posters here - can you explain what they want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Well at least they aren't rallying over a "stupid" old temple and the chuck of dirt around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 the "Red Academy" project. reminds me of a certain "church" where people obviously get brainwashed. Before you cry foul - I wrote "it reminds me".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insight Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Sounds like Damage Limitation Exercise month. Not enough people? Balance it through holding more rallies. Time will tell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Well at least they aren't rallying over a "stupid" old temple and the chuck of dirt around it. Maybe they should. The temple issue is bigger than PAD and it should be resolved. Nation's Supalak who has been regularly writing about PAD stupidity over the temple for a year calls for dealing with Hun Sen, too. And, of course, what better way to avoid questions about red agenda than deflecting the thread to another topic. Way to go, Scott. Should I ask the mods to discourage off topic discussions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orac Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Next red-shirt rally to be held on Oct 17The red shirts plan to organise their next political rally on October 17 - snip Article link -- The Nation 1 Oct 2009 The Bangkok Post, quoting the same source, states that there will be a rally on 11th Oct at the Victory Monument - was the Nation reporter not paying attention?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanothercybertosser Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Up where? Upcountry. Most upper northern provinces and almost all of Isaarn have weekly Red Shirt events, from provincial level down to village meetings. But you don't read much about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Plus, thanks for putting me in my place and reminding me who I am! I have now taken my yellow pill and my shirt was faded from red to pink. I shall return to my more mundane task! Happy posting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 It's not surprising that reds have regular meetings upcountry but it's not a sign of the progress either. They can meet until cows come home but their agenda still makes no sense. Scott, rather than taking a step back, why don't you take a step forward and explain to us what the reds really want, and why should we, and the rest of the Thailand, listen to them? Unless they can present some compelling reasons to the mainstream society they will isolate themselves further and further like a classic cult movement. Hope it doesn't end in mass suicide for them. On the other hand, if there's a coup against Democrats, no reds will drive their taxis in the tanks or hang themselves from lamp posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ff978472 Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 They are waiting for Dubai's new fiscal year. No budget left for Sept 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insight Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Up where? Upcountry. Most upper northern provinces and almost all of Isaarn have weekly Red Shirt events, from provincial level down to village meetings. But you don't read much about that. Might be in a village in the Udon Thani area next month. Will keep an eye out for the local Red Shirt meeting there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otherstuff1957 Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Udon Thani? If you don't find them, just put on a yellow shirt and they'll find you. Of course, you'd better put on your running shoes too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Udon Thani? If you don't find them, just put on a yellow shirt and they'll find you. Of course, you'd better put on your running shoes too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insight Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Udon Thani? If you don't find them, just put on a yellow shirt and they'll find you. Of course, you'd better put on your running shoes too! I'm sure every last one of those activists will be able to outline all the Red Shirt demands stated by JACT... Go democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 The quesation is when will Thaksin feel despearate enough to pump a last large chunk of cash into a rally and let his acolytes loose off the leash? He specifically held off last time, saying he was waiting for a better moment. As the assets trial winds up or down, so will wind up his nervousness, and sense of impotence. He doesn't deal with impotence too well based on past observations.... I can bet that Abhisit's UN speech put Thaksin off his feed for a day. There were several reports that the money has been brought in for some purpose. When will that 'push come to shove', or is it, 'putcsh come to shove'? good thing. A good economic stimulus package, give 100.000 poor people 500 Baht each. They spend it for lao kao or beer chang, the local shop owners buy new motorbikes with the profit. lao kao, beer chang and motorbike factories need more staff. the new staff buys beer chang and new motorbikes..... Part of his stolen money goes back to the Thai people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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