Thaksin's New Passport Name: Takki Shinegra

[junglist]

Takki was removed from the Teletubbies cast after he was discovered stealing the Tubby custard.

[pera2thai]

What a fitting name, "Takki."

In finnish language "TAKKI" is "JACKET, BLOUSE "

[nakachalet]

hi maestro

with all due respect, my friend.... there is another side of the coin....

personally when a response is given to a particular post, i really do not think about web search as such.... just a response.... period....

web search never crosses my mind at all....

maybe, thx maestro.... i and several others should begin contemplating its effects and affects.... more seriously....

[nakachalet]

"Problems can happen when we ask foreign countries to extradite him. We name him in our request as Thaksin Shinawatra but when those countries check his presence, they would not find him because he used different name," Panich said.

Problems?

How's about you tell the foreign countries what that different name is.... Takki Shinegra?

Sorted.

Too straightforward!! Never happens like that, here, does it? Does anyone really believe they actually want this man back on Thai soil, marches on whichever prison holds him etc etc??? Jutaporn's probably got 'secret tapes' of a plot to kill him by Abhisit and some shadowy Dr Evil anyway, to stir everyone up, just in case!!!

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in reference to jatuporn's secret discovery and such.... the cambodian representative already addressed that in thai newspapers.... that there was no tape whatever as the understudy man jatuporn claimed.... and would like his followers and others to believe....

at least the cambodian officer refused to cooperate and refuted to coordinate jatuporn's baseless claim.... mainly in my opinion, because jatuporn failed to send 'ben franklin' to the cambodian's secret hideout per promise, after jatuporn immediate superior arrived for a short visit.... NO US DOLLARS, NO TAPE.... lol

Edited November 26, 2009 by nakachalet

[vagabond48]

Thaksin's name in passports issued by Nicaragua, Uganda and Montenegro has been changed to "Takki Shinegra," he said.

Well Known African Countries

I don't know about Nicaragua or Uganda but Montenegro has to be.

[Ricardo]

It`s the first time I hear,that Thaksin wasn`t democratelly elected.How DID he come to power,then? Through a coup,perhaps? If so,It seems to be no big deal to you,a coup is obviously o.k. if the military think it is apropriate.I am very surprised,that any Westerners can harbour this kind of thinking,but there you go;not much more to add,when that is the case.

A common misconception, which some of us on TV try to correct, is that the military coup in 2006 had overthrown a democratically-elected PM. Not so. Thaksin was at-that-time merely the appointed caretaker-PM, trying and failing to organise a fair election, after the April-2006 one had been widely-criticised and annulled.

I agree with you that a military coup is a bad thing, and unjustifiable in most cases, however I'd suggest that you can still make a case for it if it avoids an even worse fate, such as a despotic insane dictator for example. Were the military officers, who tried to blow up Hitler with a briefcase-bomb, illegal-terrorists or heroes of democracy, would you say ?

As a westerner, I understand how the military can sometimes owe their primary-alleigance to a revered Head-of-State, while controlled day-to-day by the elected PM & Defence-minister. This system is often thought elsewhere to be a useful check-or-balance on the elected government, when they might be tempted to exceed their given-powers, which are not absolute, no matter what percentage of the people may have voted for them.

[h90]

h90,thanks for the education! I might have missed something there,especially that EC has been found to have been bribed.But to correct one wrong (if indeed it was wrong..) with another,even bigger wrong...The PM the military clic put in charge was not even in an election at all (except within the top brass) and I would have thought,that to come to power through a coup is more illigal than anything else.Or?? If so,my point was,is,why do nobody make waves about THAT instead of going on about Taksin.By the way;here in Isaan most people still see him as the best PM they ever had!

Two (or Three) EC members went into jail for their wrongdoings.

The military gave power back after 1 year (+a few month). So there are just a bit more than 1 year without elected government to sort out things.

I can't think of any other solution than a coup to remove Thaksin (who is a criminal and mass murder) and restore democracy again.

I don't want to comment on the morality of people who like someone who ordered to kill 3000 people (war against drugs), but gave them 500 Baht.

I personally would also accept any non democratic government if it would ensure that such things don't happen again.

(but of course I would not trust military dictators in questions of human rights, so that the last sentence as theoretic only)

[h90]

It`s the first time I hear,that Thaksin wasn`t democratelly elected.How DID he come to power,then? Through a coup,perhaps? If so,It seems to be no big deal to you,a coup is obviously o.k. if the military think it is apropriate.I am very surprised,that any Westerners can harbour this kind of thinking,but there you go;not much more to add,when that is the case.

A common misconception, which some of us on TV try to correct, is that the military coup in 2006 had overthrown a democratically-elected PM. Not so. Thaksin was at-that-time merely the appointed caretaker-PM, trying and failing to organise a fair election, after the April-2006 one had been widely-criticised and annulled.

I agree with you that a military coup is a bad thing, and unjustifiable in most cases, however I'd suggest that you can still make a case for it if it avoids an even worse fate, such as a despotic insane dictator for example. Were the military officers, who tried to blow up Hitler with a briefcase-bomb, illegal-terrorists or heroes of democracy, would you say ?

As a westerner, I understand how the military can sometimes owe their primary-alleigance to a revered Head-of-State, while controlled day-to-day by the elected PM & Defence-minister. This system is often thought elsewhere to be a useful check-or-balance on the elected government, when they might be tempted to exceed their given-powers, which are not absolute, no matter what percentage of the people may have voted for them.

And to add military gave back their power, which was the final prove that they are honest. (Opposite example Myanmar)

[junglist]

H90 you nailed it.

[cooperspale]

Leave Khun Thaksin alone he is a good man. It is the yellow shirts and sontee, and miltary that are the trouble makers. The current PM is another yellow shirt arse kisser. His Oxford education and being born in the Uk do not make him a better person. It is just a con job. WAKE UP EVERYBODY!

Obviously this guy received his free bottle of Sangsom!

[TAWP]

h90,thanks for the education! I might have missed something there,especially that EC has been found to have been bribed.But to correct one wrong (if indeed it was wrong..) with another,even bigger wrong...The PM the military clic put in charge was not even in an election at all (except within the top brass) and I would have thought,that to come to power through a coup is more illigal than anything else.Or?? If so,my point was,is,why do nobody make waves about THAT instead of going on about Taksin.By the way;here in Isaan most people still see him as the best PM they ever had!

The military didn't appoint any PM after they gave back the rule by allowing an election. Hence why we had several PPP PM's before they collapsed (the coalition didn't last) and a new coalition was formed.

Your handle would indicate that you are Swedish. You are aware that Sweden has a coalition-government too? (4 parties share the ministerial positions. M+KD+FP+C)

[TAWP]

Now you create a battle. Speaking in the Foreign Ministry of the items that catch my difficult because I renamed "Takki. Shineta "If the truth shows that the lower end of a state want. Thai.

Source: Google Translate from @thaksinlive at Twitter, few minutes ago.

[Golf]

Leave Khun Thaksin alone he is a good man. It is the yellow shirts and sontee, and miltary that are the trouble makers. The current PM is another yellow shirt arse kisser. His Oxford education and being born in the Uk do not make him a better person. It is just a con job. WAKE UP EVERYBODY!

We already woke up. How about you?

[PoorSucker]

It's not all he's changing, I just checked his facebook page;

Thaksin Shinawatra edited his Country, Gender and Birthday.

Thaksins ore Takkis facebook page?

[Samuian]

Leave Khun Thaksin alone he is a good man. It is the yellow shirts and sontee, and miltary that are the trouble makers. The current PM is another yellow shirt arse kisser. His Oxford education and being born in the Uk do not make him a better person. It is just a con job. WAKE UP EVERYBODY!

Obviously this guy received his free bottle of Sangsom!

I beg it was Lao Kao and M150!

And hey "br(it)ainmale" - mind your language, will ya!?

Come with concrete facts and build an argument, but not like this!

[brahmburgers]

Could this be a bogus report - a carard - a red herring?

Neither the Bkk Post nor the Nation seem to mention it on their main pages of their online versions. Maybe the news broke too late to get included.

Not only does a name change seem silly, but one would think it would create problems for a person with lots of business dealings worldwide.

Yet, the silliest response yet is from the Thai gov't official who says this might create problems for interpol and/or Thai gov't pursuing legal action against the scoundrel (...by whatever name, smells as foul). Incidentally, I doubt Interpol cares to take on this silly case. It has serious cases to pursue.

If changing one's name exonerates one from past digressions, then one might max out his credit card and change his name the next day. Come to think of it, isn't that what some Thai big shots do routinely - in order to avoid paying back debts?

Let see, what discreet name would to choose to lay low? Hmmm Tacky Shinanigans? No, I believe someone has already taken on a similar name. How about Wild Bill Hookup? or Loin Groin? or Chief Crazy House? Long John Latex, anyone?

[Jingthing]

Its not exactly earth shaking news. Its a novelty item of no real importance, except that we can now legitimately called him TAKKI. They reported it, and that's it.

[webfact]

Could this be a bogus report - a carard - a red herring?

Neither the Bkk Post nor the Nation seem to mention it on their main pages of their online versions. Maybe the news broke too late to get included.

<snip>

It was taken yesterday from Nations online front page news

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?s=...t&p=3162865

[sabaijai]

Heavily reported in the Thai press.

http://www.google.com/search?q=takki+shine...amp;startPage=1

[Bosse137]

I admit that my statement":overthrowing an elected goverment" seems to have been somewhat incorrect.My point,though,was that I see an imbalance between all the Thaksin-lashing on one hand,and the free pass for people who close airports and make coups,on the other hand.What I have learned from your posts doesn`t change my wiev on this. And I must add,that when one post compare peacetime Thailand and Thaksin to wartime Germany and Hitler (the "coupmakers"there was hanged,remember"),another post claims to have evidence that Thaksin ordered the killing of 3000 people (it used to be 2500..) and yet another post drags in Sweden`s coalition government into this,then I feel that it`s time to say goodnight for this time to those gentlemen:sweet dreams about future coups!!

[Jingthing]

Another film title idea --

What Makes Takki Run?

I like the new Takki better than the new Nixon. An object of jest and ridicule rather than a serious threat. A kinder gentler Takki. The Takki story gets curiouser and curiouser ...

Any budding entrepreneurs listening? How about some really cute TAKKI DOLLS for the kiddies for the holidays?

Edited November 26, 2009 by Jingthing

[eTiMaGo]

Another film title idea --

What Makes Takki Run?

He can't run too much or he might get.... tachycardia..

[rixalex]

I admit that my statement":overthrowing an elected goverment" seems to have been somewhat incorrect.My point,though,was that I see an imbalance between all the Thaksin-lashing on one hand,and the free pass for people who close airports and make coups,on the other hand.What I have learned from your posts doesn`t change my wiev on this.

With all due respect, if you have only just learnt about the circumstances that surrounded the coup some 3 years back, is it at all possible that there are other areas concerning Thaksin's history and what has happened since in which your understanding is not complete?

Perhaps living amongst Isan people who you tell us still hold Takki in high esteem has had an affect on your own opinion?

[bkkjames]

I admit that my statement":overthrowing an elected goverment" seems to have been somewhat incorrect.My point,though,was that I see an imbalance between all the Thaksin-lashing on one hand,and the free pass for people who close airports and make coups,on the other hand.What I have learned from your posts doesn`t change my wiev on this.

With all due respect, if you have only just learnt about the circumstances that surrounded the coup some 3 years back, is it at all possible that there are other areas concerning Thaksin's history and what has happened since in which your understanding is not complete?

Perhaps living amongst Isan people who you tell us still hold Takki in high esteem has had an affect on your own opinion?

Rix and others, can we save the political views for the other 40 threads on this and keep Takki Shinegra on the more serious vein of things. It's sound half finnish, half indian to me.

[Jingthing]

Takki Shinegra

I rather like the name. Its got a certain ring. Like from a classic flawed comic character from a literary novel. If I ever decide to change my name, that one would be high on my list.

Edited November 26, 2009 by Jingthing

[xminator]

I just see the usuall hotheads that where screaming "FRAUD" about a certain cambodian spu tape now suddenly take a piece of news hook, sink and bait. Totally uncritical and making jokes that would make a kindergarden 5 year old blush in shame.

So how do the denial from Thaksin (as posted on Bangkok Post, and most likely on Nation too if that page would ever load here in farangland). Could it really be the shocking truth that the whole "news" is a piece of slander produced by someone trying to please their puppet masters?

[caf]

I just see the usuall hotheads that where screaming "FRAUD" about a certain cambodian spu tape now suddenly take a piece of news hook, sink and bait. Totally uncritical and making jokes that would make a kindergarden 5 year old blush in shame.

So how do the denial from Thaksin (as posted on Bangkok Post, and most likely on Nation too if that page would ever load here in farangland). Could it really be the shocking truth that the whole "news" is a piece of slander produced by someone trying to please their puppet masters?

I doubt it was ever news but it got repeated on tv as if it were genuine.

The name was shown yesterday as a clever anagram as I and other posters pointed out. It allows Taksin bashing but in other threads they are closed pending official conformation from a relaible source.

[rixalex]

It's sound half finnish, half indian to me.

Is you be half German James? You is sound like that.

[Bosse137]

rixaflex : I have been reading newspapers and watched the news every day for the 20 years I have lived in Thailand,but of course,it IS possible that there are details that I have forgotten,that`s true.But I don`t consider a coup a detail,so to me the big picture look the same.Regarding whether living in Isaan has had an impact on my thinking when it comes to Thaksin;well,perhaps somewhat,when I hear how much people appreciate him.Is there something wrong with that..? I understand the undertone,implicating that people here are stupid and hence that goes for me too..However,my thoughts on coups and closed airports are totally formed by myself,and that`s what I was writing about;comparing those acts to the acts of Thaksin and the consequenses of them. I also agree with the post that stated,that all this playing around with Thaksins (alledgedly) changed name seems very kindergartenlike.But,mai pen rai.

[Ricardo]

I admit that my statement":overthrowing an elected goverment" seems to have been somewhat incorrect.My point,though,was that I see an imbalance between all the Thaksin-lashing on one hand,and the free pass for people who close airports and make coups,on the other hand.What I have learned from your posts doesn`t change my wiev on this. And I must add,that when one post compare peacetime Thailand and Thaksin to wartime Germany and Hitler (the "coupmakers"there was hanged,remember"),another post claims to have evidence that Thaksin ordered the killing of 3000 people (it used to be 2500..) and yet another post drags in Sweden`s coalition government into this,then I feel that it`s time to say goodnight for this time to those gentlemen:sweet dreams about future coups!!

Sorry you are taking it that way Bosse137, my own response to your post wasn't meant to put you off posting, just to try to explain why I (and some others) see how a military-coup might sometimes be a necessary thing.

I can assure you that I personally do not have sweet dreams about coups, and as I said in my earlier post, I regard coups as "a bad thing, and unjustifiable in most cases". The mention of Hitler was only to attempt to show, that some might reasonably consider military action a moral or noble course under certain circumstances, and to explain why some "Westerners can harbour this kind of thinking" as you'd found hard to understand. I personally honour the memory of the "coupmakers who were hanged", I hope that I might have the courage to behave as they did, in a similar situation.

Nor do I particularly agree with the airport closure, it was the management who took that decision, by the way. Initially the protesters had just gone to peacefully greet PM-Somchai, as was their right, on his expected return from a trip overseas, and protest/greeting-groups like this happen here quite often. Unfortunately the then-government was on the point of losing control of domestic affairs, appearing to be obsessed with trying to white-wash Thaksin's alleged-crimes before their party was dissolved by the courts for electoral-offences, and the whole situation got out-of-control.

One would hope to avoid similar situations in the future, such as Red-Songkran, or the UDD's civil-war on-the-streets, the current divisions in Thailand are very worrying, and I wish Takki Shinegra could become a positive force to help avoid this, as one might expect from a former Prime Minister of the country.