Anyone Here Had The Rabies Vaccine (pre-bite)?

[phetaroi]

Anyone?

If you have, any thoughts about it?

Given in the deltoid, I assume?

Thanks

[robblok]

Just out of curiosity why in the deltoid ? Is it an intra musculair injection ? Then ass or quad should be possible too ?

I have been thinking of getting a few extra shots rabies would be one of them because i do come in contact with a lot of dogs.

[bina]

in a muscle....

actually i was supposed to get one (worked with zoo animals and hten vet work) but never did. however, iwould consider it if i go back to thailand since i do deal with dogs , i cant help it, i do handle them, and other mammals and thailand does have rabies.

the vaccine does not need to be renewed yearly but based on blood titre (at least in states, in israel its given yearly but thailand seems to be flexible about medical things so who knows)... the shot doesn ot mean that if bitten with a suspected rabid animal u shouldnt get a series of shots, but it does reduce the amount needed and u probably dont have to worry every time u get scratched by a soi animal or farm animal (although rare, cud chewers and equines and also cats can carry rabies). it also doesnt mean u shouldnt take precautions when bitten (washing vigorously with soap and water for at least 15 minutes and then getting additional medical help)...

unfortunately, as per diffferent thread,we had discussed htat in israel at least twice now dogs that had been vaccinated still contracted rabies this year and somewhere we did discuss that happening in thailand too; not sure where the thread is now (pets/vets i think)...

its supposedly not that problematic a vaccine to get, although my vet said that if u have more of a reaction (he gets rash) your blood titre is higher, therefore vaccine better.

i was told it would be cheaper in thailand then here in my country, for instance. here we need a medical reason (vet student, farm worker) to recieve the vaccine. what vets do here is buy oerseas and inject themselves. .

bina

israel

[FBN]

Just out of curiosity why in the deltoid ? Is it an intra musculair injection ? Then ass or quad should be possible too ?

I have been thinking of getting a few extra shots rabies would be one of them because i do come in contact with a lot of dogs.

The location where injections are given is selected based on the age of the patient (babies quads) as well as the volume to be injected. Volumes of about 2cc or less in adults are usually given in the deltoid and larger volumes in the buttock or gluteus area.

There is also less fat over the deltoid than in the buttock area which makes for better needle penetration and delivery of the vaccine or meds into the muscle substance where there is better blood flow and hence better absorption and immune response.

Quads rarely used in adults.

[lioness]

I found them to be quite painful, but then if you are with animals better to be safe than sorry, we are involved with primates so it's a must.

[robblok]

Just out of curiosity why in the deltoid ? Is it an intra musculair injection ? Then ass or quad should be possible too ?

I have been thinking of getting a few extra shots rabies would be one of them because i do come in contact with a lot of dogs.

The location where injections are given is selected based on the age of the patient (babies quads) as well as the volume to be injected. Volumes of about 2cc or less in adults are usually given in the deltoid and larger volumes in the buttock or gluteus area.

There is also less fat over the deltoid than in the buttock area which makes for better needle penetration and delivery of the vaccine or meds into the muscle substance where there is better blood flow and hence better absorption and immune response.

Quads rarely used in adults.

Loads of bodybuilders use quads and the buttock area (buttock preferable) But usually those are 2cc or more. That was just why i asked.. I would say buttocks are far less painfull then delts.

And no im not a big expert myself, just read a lot about it.

[eXplosief]

As i was prepairing for a long stay in thailand, i also got my shots.

First they recommended me, on top of the others, to take a rabies injection. When i question them a bit more about how usefull this was i got the answer that without vaccination you need to report for shots to the hospital within 24 hours, if you are vaccinated you have 48 hours but still will need the shots.

I don't work with animals, so not higher risk. And since i will not be going to an area where it would take me more then 24 hours to get to a hospital, i figured it doesn't make enough of a difference to warrant gettting vaccinated.

[Sheryl]

I had it and do not recall it being unusually painful.

It is a series of 3 injections. Booster is recommended for people at high rsik (e.g. vets, people who handle animals for a living etc) but not for others.

It's not just the time period before needing post-exposureshots that varies if you have been immunized before hand. It is also decreases the number of injections required after being bitten (and those are painful!) and removes the need to give rabies immune globulin, which is necessary if you haven't had pre-exposure vaccination and which like all immune globulins carries some significant risks (safer than rabies, obviously, but still worth avoiding).

the CDC recommends the pre-exposure rabies vaccination for anyone who will be spending more than 1 month in a country where dog rabies is common. Thailand qualifies. http://www.cdc.gov/rabies/specific_groups/...ccinations.html

I strongly recommend it. But then, I've seen someone die from rabies. It makes an impression.

[phetaroi]

I had it and do not recall it being unusually painful.

It is a series of 3 injections. Booster is recommended for people at high rsik (e.g. vets, people who handle animals for a living etc) but not for others.

It's not just the time period before needing post-exposureshots that varies if you have been immunized before hand. It is also decreases the number of injections required after being bitten (and those are painful!) and removes the need to give rabies immune globulin, which is necessary if you haven't had pre-exposure vaccination and which like all immune globulins carries some significant risks (safer than rabies, obviously, but still worth avoiding).

the CDC recommends the pre-exposure rabies vaccination for anyone who will be spending more than 1 month in a country where dog rabies is common. Thailand qualifies. http://www.cdc.gov/rabies/specific_groups/...ccinations.html

I strongly recommend it. But then, I've seen someone die from rabies. It makes an impression.

Why are those after being bitten more painful?

[FBN]

The Rabies Immune Globuline (passive antibodies) is given based on a volume of 0,133ml/kg body weight. This is usually about 10cc for a 75kg individual. Half of this is usually infiltrated around the wound and the other half given in the upper arm. This is combined with the vaccine on a different site and these injections are repeated in few day intervals (search "rabies post exposure prophylaxis"; the WHO and CDC sites give a very clear overview); the pure volume of these injections and the frequency required over several days/wks is extremely unpleasant, to say the least; especially for children.

This is a disease which is nearly always fatal (only one or 2 recorded cases survived) and death due to this, even for an animal, is brutal.

The vaccine these days is safe and effective and most international companies with employees based in countries where this disease is endemic or prevalent (as in Thailand) do recommend the vaccine for long stay residents.

[syd barrett]

the CDC recommends the pre-exposure rabies vaccination for anyone who will be spending more than 1 month in a country where dog rabies is common. Thailand qualifies. http://www.cdc.gov/rabies/specific_groups/...ccinations.html

I strongly recommend it. But then, I've seen someone die from rabies. It makes an impression.

Would you describe in some detail the first-hand observations and the incredible human suffering, that you made by witnessing someone die from rabies and highlight the reasons why, that this sad experience made a lasting impression upon you.

It would be helpful for those of us who have opted to avoid rabies inoculation prophylaxis.

Thanks.

[sanuk21]

Just out of curiosity why in the deltoid ? Is it an intra musculair injection ? Then ass or quad should be possible too ?

I have been thinking of getting a few extra shots rabies would be one of them because i do come in contact with a lot of dogs.

In Australia, Rabies Pre-exposure prophylaxis is recommended for anyone holidaying in Thailand for 6 weeks or more.

I had a course of intra dermal injections which can be given just under the skin and are quiet painless.

These have proven to be a godsent as I have had 2 animal bites in the same number of years.

Sanuk

Edited April 1, 2010 by sanuk21

[halfhead]

I had the rabbies Vaccine last year which was three shots

Today I was bitten by a dog and got one shot and told to come for another in two days

500thb with amoxycillian from a goverment hostpital,todays shot was not sore either