Thai Government Hangs By A Thread

[lannarebirth]

THe yellow facists and their paid lapdogs are lashing again at the courageous reds who wanted only to discuss with the military .

The reds did not initiate any attacks .

If they wanted violence why did they surrender the M16's to the army ?.

Enough with the anti-red bullshitt !!!!!!

I have a lot of tolerance for people whose opinions I'm opposed to. I have much less tolerance for people who just get off on the noise and mayhem. Ignored, finally.

Special thanks to mod sbk for introducing this TV feature to me.

Edited April 10, 2010 by lannarebirth

[Jingthing]

What was the source of the BTS de-railment threat?

Live TV.

Waiting for the defense of the Red leader's Jatuporn's call to derail BTS from all you die hard Red supporters. Or are the reds true colors finally too much?

Why is derailing a BTS train seen as violent by yellow supporters when their own yellow posters are calling for machine guns to be brought out against reds. Hypocritical double standards!

Sir, you ain't thinking straight. A red shirt LEADER has called for terrorist actions. The government of Thailand (not PAD, not yellow shirts) led by PM Abhisit has reacted to this violent insurgency (which has now turned terrorist) with amazing restraint. Restraint that would be impossible in most of our home countries, our leaders would have NEVER allowed this violent insurgency to get even as far as it has now. Sure you can find irrational people on the street saying outrageous things like shoot all the reds, but you will hear NO SUCH THING from the legal government of Thailand. Your charge of double standard is completely false.

BTW, I support showing as much restraint as humanly possible to disperse the red insurgency/terrorist movement. However if they escalate to lethal force against soldiers and civilians there will be no choice but to respond more aggressively, its called SELF DEFENSE, and totally justifiable.

Edited April 10, 2010 by Jingthing

[saintofsilence]

Abhisit will come out of this ok especially, now that he is dealing with some terrorists and trying to hold his country together.

Keep the good work up PM

[bubba]

What was the source of the BTS de-railment threat?

Live TV.

Waiting for the defense of the Red leader's Jatuporn's call to derail BTS from all you die hard Red supporters. Or are the reds true colors finally too much?

Why is derailing a BTS train seen as violent by yellow supporters when their own yellow posters are calling for machine guns to be brought out against reds. Hypocritical double standards!

What is your source for a yellow shirt leader advocating bringing out machine guns against the reds? A link would be nice.

And if a yellow shirt leader made that statement, they should be arrested as well.

I am sick of hearing red supporters justify even terrorist acts based upon the actions of some other group. For example, Osama bin Laden justifies 9/11 because of atrocities in Palestine that have gone without prosecution. That would be his double standard rationalisation.

Edited April 10, 2010 by bubba

[humfurry]

Seeing riot shot guns on tpbs.... not sure what's in the cartridges....

If Jutuporn orders the Reds against this then... the blood is on Jutuporns hands.

Edited April 10, 2010 by humfurry

[moresomekl]

Plenty of Bulshits from every side during such actions... real, Fake, intox... everything is on going.

Please exert some restraint.

The Battle will be win but the aftermaith may be backfiring.

Yes you are right the red rank and file may loose a battle but they will win the war at the end

[4223rhodes]

Jai yen yen, farang! Geez the moto taxi guys and the army can get along better than you guys can. No need to raise the level! It's ok to be yellow, it's great to be Red!

[KireB]

Simply sweeping protesters off the streets won't help solve anything. They will simply regroup and come back. Abhisit needs to fix the toilet that's leaking water, not just clean up the water. It will leak again.

Well mayb, but the Reds have been exposed again as agressive street hooligans. So I think their support will be dwindling!

[LuckyLew]

I heard yesterday that there was no arrest warrant issued

for Jutaporn because he has immunity because he is a member

of parliament?

Is this a blanket immunity?

Can he be charged with any thing to do with these events today?

If it was he who told his followers to attck the BTS stations,

can he be charged with anything

If not ... that is just silly

If not ... he is pretty smart ... telling everyone else to do his dirty

work, knowing he cannot be charged with anything

If he can be charged, I suggest he might soon be living in

Thaksins guest bedroom in Dubai

How can a sitting member of parliament go on like this?

[humfurry]

Jai yen yen, farang! Geez the moto taxi guys and the army can get along better than you guys can. No need to raise the level! It's ok to be yellow, it's great to be Red!

It's better to be right!

Cheers

[4223rhodes]

Terrorists in Thailand are usually elevated to Foreign Minister!

[Jingthing]

Abhisit will come out of this ok especially, now that he is dealing with some terrorists and trying to hold his country together.

Keep the good work up PM

Lets hope so. The prospect of a government run by these red terrorists is horrific in the extreme. You know what you have with Abhisit. With the reds, what are they? Thaksinistas? Maoists? Anarchists? Thailand would be crazy to take that risk with the leadership they have now. Those sincere peace loving people who want a morally credible pro freedom/democracy/poverty justice people power movement in Thailand, should start over ... The reds are tainted, FOREVER.

Edited April 10, 2010 by Jingthing

[anotherpeter]

Plenty of Bulshits from every side during such actions... real, Fake, intox... everything is on going.

Please exert some restraint.

The Battle will be win but the aftermaith may be backfiring.

Yes you are right the red rank and file may loose a battle but they will win the war at the end

If the reds lose this battle, they will have lost the war.

Their only aim for these protests is for house dissolution in 15 days (that's gotta be about a week ago by now), and they are not going to get it.

[Netfan]

Terrorists in Thailand are usually elevated to Foreign Minister!

And your opinion of Jatuporn is?????

[khunjamespittman]

Today I just witnessed the worse national disgrace and misuse of the military since I watched the East Germans Army trampled their neighbors with similar shields as we just watched on TV.

Soldiers are supposed to exist to protect the Country and its citizens. Today we watched as politicians used these soldiers to trample their friends and families and children and monks and all to try to hold the poor and dis-enfranchized Thais hostage to their quest for continued power over them.

I won't bother to respond to anyone who would attempt to defend this disgrace.

The whole government is responsible for this disaster now. There can be no excuse for this disgrace brought on the country and these soldiers. If they had any integrity they would submit the resignations NOW.

[jdinasia]

THe yellow facists and their paid lapdogs are lashing again at the courageous reds who wanted only to discuss with the military .

The reds did not initiate any attacks .

If they wanted violence why did they surrender the M16's to the army ?.

Enough with the anti-red bullshitt !!!!!!

Right on time. Please take the advice I gave you earlier and write fiction instead of political commentary. You're really good at the former.

Cheers

Hmmmm and we see some patterns from former posters coming back with moresomekl's rant up there ......

edit --- and attacking army regiment 1 wasn't initiating violence? Attacking Thaicom wasn't initiating violence?

Edited April 10, 2010 by jdinasia

[4223rhodes]

There's some great video of the freedom fighters and their brothers in the army, I hope you are not missing it. It's certainly better than farang fighting.

[bubba]

M-16s out and shots now heard at Phan Fa - live video on Thai PBS.

[moresomekl]

Plenty of Bulshits from every side during such actions... real, Fake, intox... everything is on going.

Please exert some restraint.

The Battle will be win but the aftermaith may be backfiring.

Yes you are right the red rank and file may loose a battle but they will win the war at the end

If the reds lose this battle, they will have lost the war.

Their only aim for these protests is for house dissolution in 15 days (that's gotta be about a week ago by now), and they are not going to get it.

I thought it was to bring back Thaksin ? Not they changed ? dam_n

[bubba]

You can see army troops firing tear gas, but also warning shots in the air from automatic weapons.

[Jerrytheyoung]

Plenty of Bulshits from every side during such actions... real, Fake, intox... everything is on going.

Please exert some restraint.

The Battle will be win but the aftermaith may be backfiring.

Yes you are right the red rank and file may loose a battle but they will win the war at the end

If the reds lose this battle, they will have lost the war.

Their only aim for these protests is for house dissolution in 15 days (that's gotta be about a week ago by now), and they are not going to get it.

Do youthink that Abhisit is now in a situation to bring the peace to Thai people and not to appear as a party leader? What is his chance to conduct a discussion with opposition?

Edited April 10, 2010 by Jerrytheyoung

[humfurry]

Abhisit will come out of this ok especially, now that he is dealing with some terrorists and trying to hold his country together.

Keep the good work up PM

Lets hope so. The prospect of a government run by these red terrorists is horrific in the extreme. You know what you have with Abhisit. With the reds, what are they? Thaksinistas? Maoists? Anarchists? Thailand would be crazy to take that risk with the leadership they have now. Those since peace loving people who want a morally credible people power movement in Thailand, should start over ... The reds are tainted, FOREVER.

That's a real problem. Because, I don't think that any of the posters here have a problem with helping the Reds. The two big issues we have reservations with are.

1. Their leadership.

2. Methods of changing the govt.

Cheers

[ozzieman05]

(What is your source for a yellow shirt leader advocating bringing out machine guns against the reds? A link would be nice.

And if a yellow shirt leader made that statement, they should be arrested as well.

I am sick of hearing red supporters justify even terrorist acts based upon the actions of some other group. For example, Osama bin Laden justifies 9/11 because of atrocities in Palestine that have gone without prosecution. That would be his double standard rationalisation.)

Agreed

Any person making a public statement like this should be arrested

Now if he just happens to be a member of TV this is no excuse

Treason is treason and statement made in Public forums are equal in punishment

[lannarebirth]

Today I just witnessed the worse national disgrace and misuse of the military since I watched the East Germans Army trampled their neighbors with similar shields as we just watched on TV.

Soldiers are supposed to exist to protect the Country and its citizens. Today we watched as politicians used these soldiers to trample their friends and families and children and monks and all to try to hold the poor and dis-enfranchized Thais hostage to their quest for continued power over them.

I won't bother to respond to anyone who would attempt to defend this disgrace.

The whole government is responsible for this disaster now. There can be no excuse for this disgrace brought on the country and these soldiers. If they had any integrity they would submit the resignations NOW.

I agree with you to this extent. Domestic law and order issues should be the domain of the police force, not the military. Let's hope this can start a dialog about what must be done to create a police force that can protect and serve the interests of all Thais.

[pimay11]

Today I just witnessed the worse national disgrace and misuse of the military since I watched the East Germans Army trampled their neighbors with similar shields as we just watched on TV.

Soldiers are supposed to exist to protect the Country and its citizens. Today we watched as politicians used these soldiers to trample their friends and families and children and monks and all to try to hold the poor and dis-enfranchized Thais hostage to their quest for continued power over them.

I won't bother to respond to anyone who would attempt to defend this disgrace.

The whole government is responsible for this disaster now. There can be no excuse for this disgrace brought on the country and these soldiers. If they had any integrity they would submit the resignations NOW.

Get real!

[4223rhodes]

Terrorists in Thailand are usually elevated to Foreign Minister!

And your opinion of Jatuporn is?????

Morally, as bad as Kasit. But far more appealing to most Thai people.

[KireB]

I won't bother to respond to anyone who would attempt to defend this disgrace.

The whole government is responsible for this disaster now. There can be no excuse for this disgrace brought on the country and these soldiers. If they had any integrity they would submit the resignations NOW.

A true REd!

Edited April 10, 2010 by KireB

[ozzieman05]

Today I just witnessed the worse national disgrace and misuse of the military since I watched the East Germans Army trampled their neighbors with similar shields as we just watched on TV.

Soldiers are supposed to exist to protect the Country and its citizens. Today we watched as politicians used these soldiers to trample their friends and families and children and monks and all to try to hold the poor and dis-enfranchized Thais hostage to their quest for continued power over them.

I won't bother to respond to anyone who would attempt to defend this disgrace.

The whole government is responsible for this disaster now. There can be no excuse for this disgrace brought on the country and these soldiers. If they had any integrity they would submit the resignations NOW.

You would not be a red shirt ?????

[Jingthing]

The problems with the police and the military didn't start with Abhisit. They are structural and long standing. You can't blame Abhisit for that reality. I agree it is a bad situation and need to be changed, but easier said than done, and certainly not something that can be solved quickly.

Edited April 10, 2010 by Jingthing

[jdinasia]

Do youthink that Abhisit is now in a situation to bring the peace to Thai people and not to appear as a party leader? What is his chance to conduct a discussion with opposition?

Opposition is normal and acceptable. The PTP could easily have been a powerful opposition party. They aren't. Why? They have no platform to deal with anything ofther than trying to get Thaksin back.

The Dems were the only opposition party under the Samak and Somchai governments and did well at being heard by the people.