Thousands Of Thai Protesters Defy Deadline To Leave

[whybother]

whay are the military not using water cannons as they do in the west??? all it would take is a few and you would blow them all out of the area as the tropps advance behind

In the west, the protestors usually don't have grenades and rifles.

[whybother]

Invade hospital yes and wrong

Shoot RPG at hotel . Any proof ? None

Bring children in hot fire zone . yes wrong

Set city on fire . A few tires yes , not city .

Shooting at civilians with live bullets : yes and wrong

Shooting 10 yo boy yes and wrong

Why dont you cut the BS and stick to facts

The RPG was shot at the Dusit Thani by the yellow mob protesting in Lumpini Park.

Or was it the army that are further down Silom (and therefore can't see the hotel).

It was the reds. There was no one else around.

Show some proofs then ...

Or tell me a reason ...

Read the last sentence.

[BlackJack]

I wonder how Mr Thaksin wants to be remembered by history?

[pornsasi]

whay are the military not using water cannons as they do in the west??? all it would take is a few and you would blow them all out of the area as the tropps advance behind

I've been wondering the same thing.

Exactly . And it would douse the tires burning .

But I guess all the violent mob in this thread would be very disapointed

[OzMick]

Would you call that boy looking over the tyres a human shield.I suggest you print something factual.My thioughts would have been,he is showing the boy to the soldiers to show that he is there.

NOW

If someone had said the boy should not be there i would have agreed but dont spout crap on here

Really, what an over reaction. Look again at the distance to the army. It would take a sniper to hit that kid, and no sniper would, due to the fact that the quality of scopes on those sniper rifles would easily show the shooter, its an enfant, but you TV radicals go ahead and make mountains out of mole hills. You are very good at that.

you are quite correct, no decent human would deliberately target a child, but there is a 10 year old that died yesterday from a stray round. You don't think that could happen again? There is a child here deliberately exposed in a combat zone - that is not a molehill to me.

[JackSterling]

The time has come.. to end it all..

“The Charge of the Light Brigade” by Lord Alfred Tennyson

Half a league half a league

Half a league onward

All in the valley of Death

Rode the six hundred:

`Forward the Light Brigade

Charge for the guns' he said

Into the valley of Death

Rode the six hundred

`Forward the Light Brigade!'

Was there a man dismay'd?

Not tho' the soldier knew

Some one had blunder'd:

Theirs not to make reply,

Theirs not to reason why,

Theirs but to do & die,

Into the valley of Death

Rode the six hundred.

Cannon to right of them,

Cannon to left of them,

Cannon in front of them

Volley'd & thunder'd;

Storm'd at with shot & shell,

Boldly they rode & well,

Into the jaws of Death,

Into the mouth of hel_l

Rode the six hundred.

Flash'd all their sabres bare,

Flash'd as they turn'd in air,

Sabring the gunners there,

Charging an army while

All the world wonder'd:

Plunged in the battery-smoke

Right thro' the line they broke;

Cossack & Russian

Reel'd from the sabre-stroke,

Shatter'd & sunder'd.

Then they rode back, but not

Not the six hundred

Cannon to right of them,

Cannon to left of them,

Cannon behind them

Volley'd & thunder'd;

Storm'd at with shot & shell,

While horse & hero fell,

They that had fought so well

Came thro' the jaws of Death

Back from the mouth of hel_l,

All that was left of them

Left of six hundred.

When can their glory fade?

O the wild charge they made!

All the world wonder'd.

Honour the charge they made!

Honour the Light Brigade,

Noble six hundred!

Alfred Tennyson

Apr.10/1864.

[pontius]

Red shirts given more time as deadline passes : Panithan

Thai authorities will give red shirts protesters more time to leave the area after a 3pm deadline passed, government spokesman Panithan Wattanayakorn said Monday.

The government's main focus is to convince women, children and elderly people who have received wrong information to leave the Rajprasong rally site.

Authorities will set up more checkpoints around the city to prevent more chaos, Panithan said.

Center for the Resolutions of Emergency Situation (CRES) has issued a deadline at 3pm for the red shirts protesters to leave Rajprasong rally site.

CRES has failed to say what it would do if the red shirts did not meet the deadline.

Meanwhile Prateep Ungsongtham Hata who has been known for her works in slum areas set up a stage on Rama IV road near Klong Toey populated community and called for people to join Rajprasong rally.

Police failed to convince her to move the stage as it caused more traffic congestion on the road.

-- The Nation 2010-05-17

[newsfooter][/newsfooter]

I am so surprised. Not.

[pornsasi]

I wonder how Mr Thaksin wants to be remembered by history?

THe classic yellow rethoric .

When they see they are losing the contest , they bring in Thaksin

[pornsasi]

Invade hospital yes and wrong

Shoot RPG at hotel . Any proof ? None

Bring children in hot fire zone . yes wrong

Set city on fire . A few tires yes , not city .

Shooting at civilians with live bullets : yes and wrong

Shooting 10 yo boy yes and wrong

Why dont you cut the BS and stick to facts

The RPG was shot at the Dusit Thani by the yellow mob protesting in Lumpini Park.

Or was it the army that are further down Silom (and therefore can't see the hotel).

It was the reds. There was no one else around.

Show some proofs then ...

Or tell me a reason ...

Read the last sentence.

No motive , were you there ?

[petedk]

Watching channel 3 now. It seems a petrol tanker has been hijacked at Bon kai.

Could get nasty.

[Jingthing]

I wonder how Mr Thaksin wants to be remembered by history?

As savior of Thailand. Instead, he is well on the path of being remembered as destroyer of Thailand.

[pornsasi]

Would you call that boy looking over the tyres a human shield.I suggest you print something factual.My thioughts would have been,he is showing the boy to the soldiers to show that he is there.

NOW

If someone had said the boy should not be there i would have agreed but dont spout crap on here

Really, what an over reaction. Look again at the distance to the army. It would take a sniper to hit that kid, and no sniper would, due to the fact that the quality of scopes on those sniper rifles would easily show the shooter, its an enfant, but you TV radicals go ahead and make mountains out of mole hills. You are very good at that.

you are quite correct, no decent human would deliberately target a child, but there is a 10 year old that died yesterday from a stray round. You don't think that could happen again? There is a child here deliberately exposed in a combat zone - that is not a molehill to me.

The army dont care who they hit . i read several report saying they just shoot randomly .

Dont tell me about targetting anyone .

Yes its wrong to bring children IMHO .

[ramsesxix]

still waiting for your definition, which, as per usual when red apologists get asked something directly, will never come. Just hard to believe that there is no action the reds can take which is not defended by some on the forum. "it's okay to (invade hospital / shoot rpg at hotel / bring children into hot fire zone / set city on fire) because (we're too lazy to work our way out of poverty / there was yellows in the airport / a coup in 2006"). pathetic.

Invade hospital yes and wrong

Shoot RPG at hotel . Any proof ? None

Bring children in hot fire zone . yes wrong

Set city on fire . A few tires yes , not city .

Shooting at civilians with live bullets : yes and wrong

Shooting 10 yo boy yes and wrong

Why dont you cut the BS and stick to facts

Then why omit the fact that the 10 year old boy was in a van carrying supplies to the red rally that failed to stop at a checkpoint... Oh, and the driver was intoxicated.

[JackSterling]

We need to be brave and support the current government to do the right thing..

Thailand is our home as well...no matter what a few radical Thai think of all of us Westerners spending out hard earned money here. Many have lived here for decades.. and some only short stays.. but we all keep coming back to what we all know as home.

THAILAND NO MATTER WHAT IS STILL AMAZING

[jitta]

as Thai mother I am shocked and angry that a Thai mother (or father) could even think of doing that, one reason I would apply death penalty to the parents. Children MUST NOT be there and that's it! Whoever even discuss it is a criminal.

About the futile effort to disperse the reds; welcome to the result of a "mai pen rai" society: complete failure in whatever we do.

Edited May 17, 2010 by jitta

[Netfan]

still waiting for your definition, which, as per usual when red apologists get asked something directly, will never come. Just hard to believe that there is no action the reds can take which is not defended by some on the forum. "it's okay to (invade hospital / shoot rpg at hotel / bring children into hot fire zone / set city on fire) because (we're too lazy to work our way out of poverty / there was yellows in the airport / a coup in 2006"). pathetic.

Invade hospital yes and wrong

Shoot RPG at hotel . Any proof ? None

Bring children in hot fire zone . yes wrong

Set city on fire . A few tires yes , not city .

Shooting at civilians with live bullets : yes and wrong

Shooting 10 yo boy yes and wrong

Why dont you cut the BS and stick to facts

and still no definition of human shield. and good news for the Dusit - there was no rocket fired on the hotel this morning. did you let them know? setting city on fire - not yet, but a goal of arisman. reds now on live tv shooting rockets at gas tanker in din daeng and once again, that poor child died because a drunken red shirt would not stop at a checkpoint. end of story. that death is on the reds, no one else. facts

Edited May 17, 2010 by Netfan

[bkk75]

as Thai mother I am shocked and angry that a Thai mother (or father) could even think of doing that, one reason I would apply death penalty to the parents. Children MUST NOT be there and that's it! Whoever even discuss it is a criminal.

About the futile effort to disperse the reds; welcome to the result of a "mai pen rai" society: complete failure in whatever we do.

I hear you.

These so called parents should be shot dead so that they don't have a chance to raise these poor kids and repeat history.

[whybother]

No motive , were you there ?

Occam's razor.

There was no one else there.

What does motive have to do with it? I could think of a hundred reason's but they would be complete speculation.

So without speculating, who else could have done it, considering the reds basically control the area?

[SanSaiExPat]

outrageous!

Yes the man speaking is actually telling the child to wave to the army. What is he thinking?

But you can't blame "elcent" for posting it. I've never met a liberal who would let the truth stand in the way of good propaganda which depicts freedom fighters in a negative light. It was just too good to resist.

[animatic]

Would you call that boy looking over the tyres a human shield.I suggest you print something factual.My thioughts would have been,he is showing the boy to the soldiers to show that he is there.

NOW

If someone had said the boy should not be there i would have agreed but dont spout crap on here

That's what a human shield is - "don't shoot at us behind standing behind the red barricades because we have brought our children here."

Not even worth a reply if thats what you think a human shield is

human shield

n.

1. A person who volunteers or is forced to take up a position
   at a likely military target as a means of forestalling an enemy attack.
   
2. A person who is used as a shield by someone in a confrontation
   with the police in order to prevent capture.
   

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language

[JackSterling]

as Thai mother I am shocked and angry that a Thai mother (or father) could even think of doing that, one reason I would apply death penalty to the parents. Children MUST NOT be there and that's it! Whoever even discuss it is a criminal.

About the futile effort to disperse the reds; welcome to the result of a "mai pen rai" society: complete failure in whatever we do.

I say the Thai need to listen to this Thai mom... You got my ear..email me anytime...lets talk!!

It is hard to find a smart Thai woman..who speaks the truth...

[A_Traveller]

At the risk of being shouted at by both 'parties' may I ask if anyone can provide an authoritative source for the death of the 10 year old boy. Note, that specifically excludes blogs and other 'citizen journalist' sources.

Regards

[whybother]

The army dont care who they hit . i read several report saying they just shoot randomly .

Dont tell me about targetting anyone .

Yes its wrong to bring children IMHO .

Yes. Typical. You believe any report that goes against the government, and ignore, or try and excuse, anything against the reds.

Of all the videos you've seen of soldiers shooting, does any of them look random to you?

[pornsasi]

No motive , were you there ?

Occam's razor.

There was no one else there.

What does motive have to do with it? I could think of a hundred reason's but they would be complete speculation.

So without speculating, who else could have done it, considering the reds basically control the area?

Anybody entering the area . Not saying its not the reds , not saying its the red either .

I dont know and neither do you

[ratcatcher]

Watching channel 3 now. It seems a petrol tanker has been hijacked at Bon kai.

Could get nasty.

Depends what's in it.

gasoline, diesel, lubricating oil. Let's hope it's not gasoline.

[A_Traveller]

@Pornsasi, since I'm busy dealing with the reality that this situation is causing I don't have time to respond ad infinitum, however, might I take this opportunity to remind you that Lumpini Police station barracks [the living accommodation for families] was specifically targeted with M79 grenades at least twice on Saturday [iIRC the day not the event] causing injuries to civilians including children.

Regards

Edit to add M79 grenades for clarity//

Edited May 17, 2010 by A_Traveller

[venturalaw]

A real mess indeed. They must be really proud of themselves.

That is what's really sick. They are proud of themselves.

[Pax50]

Would you call that boy looking over the tyres a human shield.I suggest you print something factual.My thioughts would have been,he is showing the boy to the soldiers to show that he is there.

NOW

If someone had said the boy should not be there i would have agreed but dont spout crap on here

What's wrong with a proud father showing off his beautiful boy? Doesn't this remind you of Michael Jackson?

[ETatBKK]

Korbsak calls Natthawut

PM's Secretary-General Korbsak Sabhavasu made talked to Natthawut Saikua over a phone at 4 pm, Thai News Agency reported.

Following the phone call, Natthawut held a meeting with other red-shirt leaders immediately.

a thin chance of ceasefire ? . or too late ?

EDIT : The Nation 2010-05-17, 17.10h

Edited May 17, 2010 by ETatBKK

[proto]

Would you call that boy looking over the tyres a human shield.I suggest you print something factual.My thioughts would have been,he is showing the boy to the soldiers to show that he is there.

Where's the difference?