LuckyLew Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Much of this could have been avoided if there had been a designated protest site - a large field with basic facilities outside downtown Bangkok. That's what the Cambodians just arranged - for future protests in their country. Granted, it's easier said than done, but if the initial protesters had been funneled to a large field somewhere, then things would not have gotten so far out of hand.Plus, recent reports of freezing accounts of many big businesses and big shot Thais associated with Thaksin and the Reds is BIG NEWS. You can bet there are a lot of big shots close to the Shinawats, who are cussing and shouting and banging furniture against walls. They should be announcing over loud speakers that all the red's bank accounts have been frozen and a 100,000 baht payout is not going to happen. We are now entering the most dangerous stage where all Thaksin has left is any connections he has within the army to try and overthrow the current army command. Isn't the original place the reds set up designated as a protest site. near gov't house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMUTT Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 They're rolling the APC's into the barricades, then back them out, dragging all the barricade material out with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiBerg Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Additional media photos of the Chulalongkorn Hospital area: Democracy?????????? if the reds are fighting for democracy, why have they been told to vote Phua Thai by their paymasters? because: Thai Rak Thai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phutoie2 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Live on Thai TV now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianb1944 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 PM Abhisit in his TV address on 15 May 2010: ?Losses will have to be endured. It is the only way to righteousness.?When Somchai Wongsawat?s actions as PM led to the death of two PAD protesters in October 2008, Abhisit sounded very much different (according to Matichon Weekend, 23-29 April 2010): ?Regarding the entire incident, the prime minister cannot reject being responsible for not performing his duties, or for intending that this incident would occur. But what is worse is to blame the officials, that is, to slander the people. I could not think or dream that we would have a state that does harm to the people, even including deaths and severe injuries, and still have a state that even shifts responsibility to the people. This behavior is unacceptable.I have heard the government asking this or that person whether they were Thai or not. But regarding your [somchai Wongsawat] behavior, are you a Thai or not? Are you human or not? Today, politically, your legitimacy is gone already. We demand that the prime minister shows responsibility.? Abhisit referred to resignation or the dissolution of parliament. If Somchai remained idle, this would do harm to the country and to the political system. ?There is no democratic political system in this world in which the people are harmed by the state, but the government that came from the people does not show responsibility. ? Even if the PAD had done something wrong, the government had no right to do harm to the people.? When the reporters asked Abhisit at that time how come that there could be such a big crisis, while the PM could still remain in office, Abhisit briefly but clearly answered: ?I cannot answer this. I have never been such a person. The normal human beings that I know are not of this kind.? The paper concluded, ?Abhisit?s words in the past and his actions in the present are totally opposite.? Abhisits only fault is indeciciveness and inaction in the very early stages of this lawless riot, and as for the peurile statement about people not being harmed by the state, Ulster? Greece? Spain? This is no longer a political struggle, it is alaw and order issue, which,thankfully,iis finally being addressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virtualtraveller Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 The protest leaders have wanted this all along, from day 1, hence laying siege to Ratchaprasong, and now they're getting it and they're secretly hoping for as big a body bag count as possible because one way or another the Govt will not survive this in the long run. But Abhisit has a job to do, he's not going to win the next election, so for the sake of Thailand, this needs to be done, clear them out, then talk peace, offer plenty of overtures, push for an election to silence the discontent, jail the leaders, use the opportunity to put strong law and order measures in place, and retire gracefully to Montenegro. Let the PT govt come and clean up the fallout, spring their buddies from jail, face off against a pissed-off PAD, and get blocked at every attempt to bring Thaksin home. If the eventual outcome is that most Thais come to their senses and realise that this government were never going to be acceptable and were a mistake and that Thaksin should be left permanently in Montenegro because of what he instigated here, then we can move forward as a country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekeeper Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Gun battle at Lumpini. Filmed black shirts with assault rifles firing at troops in park. At least 5 protesters injured /v @aleithead This is going to be good PR for the government. The black shirts won't be able to hide during the day. it just shows how stupid these red people are when the army, police and press from every corner of the world are looking for 'men in black' 'the men in black' wear ................................BLACK! they might as well paint a big red target on the front of their shirts and ''shoot me'' on the back new shirt issue for 'men in black'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabo Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Thaskin is definatly the cause and the financial organizer of this protestPanic and chaos will allow him to return But the question is Is Thaskin the head of all of this or just a puppet himself There are many of my business friends who say he is but a puppet of The New World Order and Thailand is a test site for bigger things to come First it was your missus telling you what to say, and now your 'business friends' You're right about Thaksin though. Contrary to what a lot of people might claim, he is simply a catalyst and not the root cause, which is public dissatisfaction with the system. When Thaksin goes, somone else will take his place. Would it not be nice if the person who takes his place is intelligent and works peacefully from within the system to promote better economic balance and opportunity through education, lasting infrastructure and financial assistance? Rather than someone thrown out for massive corruption and human rights violations only to return through death, destruction, and fracturing society. Granted Thaksin has taught Thailand a lesson they must learn, kind of like the shoe bomber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dottie Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Immigration office at Chaengwattana is finally open. I have to go asap. Is the expressway safe? Can someone confirm if immigration office at Chaenwattana is actually open? I have to go there and no-one is answering the phones, although the line was engaged earlier. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder26 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Much of this could have been avoided if there had been a designated protest site - a large field with basic facilities outside downtown Bangkok. That's what the Cambodians just arranged - for future protests in their country. Granted, it's easier said than done, but if the initial protesters had been funneled to a large field somewhere, then things would not have gotten so far out of hand. Agreed, but not completely as the red shirts don't care about designated protest sites. They just protest where they want creating chaos around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AleG Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 The Red Leaders won't be killed, the "hot air ballons" will escape, live off their thousands they received from Mr. T and the Red Sheep (the common protesters) will face danger. Pfft, nonsense, sir, nonsense!... They received millions, no thousands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaising Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Immigration office at Chaengwattana is finally open. I have to go asap. Is the expressway safe? Can someone confirm if immigration office at Chaenwattana is actually open? I have to go there and no-one is answering the phones, although the line was engaged earlier. Cheers! The government has announced that all government departments or statutory board closed for the next three day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianb1944 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Additional media photos of the Chulalongkorn Hospital area: Democracy?????????? Anarchy is some peoples version of democracy,and that why the tanks are now in BKK,to disiillusion them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepi2005 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Hopefully they don't let the Red Shirts 'confiscate' the tanks again! On a sidenote, as much as I welcome determined action to remove this mob from the streets, I don't understand why they don't use non-lethal weapons like water cannons, night sticks, electrical guns etc. before coming up with tanks and live rounds, even though they are obviously used in a very cautious and defensive way by the military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creck Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Immigration office at Chaengwattana is finally open. I have to go asap. Is the expressway safe? Can someone confirm if immigration office at Chaenwattana is actually open? I have to go there and no-one is answering the phones, although the line was engaged earlier. Cheers! Phone is engaged because somemany people are calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMUTT Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Other APC's are going at the barricades at a different angle and flattening them out as well dragging the material out. Methodical and effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Hopefully they don't let the Red Shirts 'confiscate' the tanks again! On a sidenote, as much as I welcome determined action to remove this mob from the streets, I don't understand why they don't use non-lethal weapons like water cannons, night sticks, electrical guns etc. before coming up with tanks and live rounds, even though they are obviously used in a very cautious and defensive way by the military. That will be the difference between today and April 10. On April 10 the army were only there to make the protestors disperse. Anyone that attacks the APC's today won't be doing anything ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianb1944 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Those who take children into this are worse than the terrorists themselves. Have they no conscience ? How can they call themselves parents... True hearts and intentions revealed! This is the real cause for the undemocratic behavior. Some sell their votes (thus their country).(Money!) Some permit their daughters and sons into prostitution – as long as they send: Money. I heard some people offer Bt 200,000.- for every one who dies in the "democratic event": thus let send our women…elderly and children….. maybe we win the jackpot!??? Money – Money – Money…. there are some contributors to this forum ought to be attending the big event and the 200,000 would be the best value anyone has ever put on their miserable lives......... Ooh Timekeeper, you not had a drink yet today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMUTT Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 (edited) Hopefully they don't let the Red Shirts 'confiscate' the tanks again! On a sidenote, as much as I welcome determined action to remove this mob from the streets, I don't understand why they don't use non-lethal weapons like water cannons They are. See previous photo posted. p.s. No tanks yet at this point have been used. Edited May 19, 2010 by KMUTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaising Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 (edited) Much of this could have been avoided if there had been a designated protest site - a large field with basic facilities outside downtown Bangkok. That's what the Cambodians just arranged - for future protests in their country. Granted, it's easier said than done, but if the initial protesters had been funneled to a large field somewhere, then things would not have gotten so far out of hand.Plus, recent reports of freezing accounts of many big businesses and big shot Thais associated with Thaksin and the Reds is BIG NEWS. You can bet there are a lot of big shots close to the Shinawats, who are cussing and shouting and banging furniture against walls. They should be announcing over loud speakers that all the red's bank accounts have been frozen and a 100,000 baht payout is not going to happen. We are now entering the most dangerous stage where all Thaksin has left is any connections he has within the army to try and overthrow the current army command. Isn't the original place the reds set up designated as a protest site. near gov't house? Moving to commercial areas with high buildings is much safer for the RED to plays hide and seek. Edited May 19, 2010 by Thaising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiBerg Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 (edited) Other APC's are going at the barricades at a different angle and flattening them out as well dragging the material out. Methodical and effective. The powers to be in this country are very able - - - if they chose to.... Edited May 19, 2010 by RaiBerg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianb1944 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Hopefully they don't let the Red Shirts 'confiscate' the tanks again! On a sidenote, as much as I welcome determined action to remove this mob from the streets, I don't understand why they don't use non-lethal weapons like water cannons, night sticks, electrical guns etc. before coming up with tanks and live rounds, even though they are obviously used in a very cautious and defensive way by the military. They tried that on April 10. 5 soldiers were kiilled by helpless, unarmed peaceful protesters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerbalm Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 APC's, Military wearing Balaclavas, Heavy machine guns, and armed police, Now theirs a recipe for disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rucharee Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 BBC showing APCs and water cannon in action.Looks like this is the end. Sorry for the poor dupes who thought they were protesting for democracy (which they already have). We now know this was all about power and money. Hats off to Abhisit! I hope not too many people die today. Enough is enough. The red have to go home today, hopefully in a bus, and not in a box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 (edited) " You smell that? Do you smell that?" "What's that? "Durian son, I love the smell of durian in the morning, nothing else in the world smells like it" Edited May 19, 2010 by ratcatcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekeeper Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Those who take children into this are worse than the terrorists themselves. Have they no conscience ? How can they call themselves parents... True hearts and intentions revealed! This is the real cause for the undemocratic behavior. Some sell their votes (thus their country).(Money!) Some permit their daughters and sons into prostitution – as long as they send: Money. I heard some people offer Bt 200,000.- for every one who dies in the "democratic event": thus let send our women…elderly and children….. maybe we win the jackpot!??? Money – Money – Money…. there are some contributors to this forum ought to be attending the big event and the 200,000 would be the best value anyone has ever put on their miserable lives......... Ooh Timekeeper, you not had a drink yet today? thanks for the kind offer but i don't drink alcohol my doctor said it will make me live longer i don't know if that's true or not but it does seem longer.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMUTT Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Armoured personnel carriers take up their positions in Lumpini Park as the Thai military begins its assault on the barricaded encampment held by anti-government "red shirt" protesters in Bangkok's shopping district May 19, 2010. Thai troops and armoured vehicles broke through barricades of tyres and staves on Wednesday. Thai army armored vehicles break down the makeshift barricade of anti government protesters at Lumpini Park in downtown Bangkok, Thailand, Wednesday, May 19, 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiawatcher Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 This time they have to finish the job, no way back now for the government. Never a truer word spoken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bermuda Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 (edited) Much of this could have been avoided if there had been a designated protest site - a large field with basic facilities outside downtown Bangkok. That's what the Cambodians just arranged - for future protests in their country. Granted, it's easier said than done, but if the initial protesters had been funneled to a large field somewhere, then things would not have gotten so far out of hand.Plus, recent reports of freezing accounts of many big businesses and big shot Thais associated with Thaksin and the Reds is BIG NEWS. You can bet there are a lot of big shots close to the Shinawats, who are cussing and shouting and banging furniture against walls. Thaskin is definatly the cause and the financial organizer of this protest Panic and chaos will allow him to return But the question is Is Thaskin the head of all of this or just a puppet himself There are many of my business friends who say he is but a puppet of The New World Order and Thailand is a test site for bigger things to come What you said is scary....! If there is indeed a powerful group of lunatics behind the new world order that made Thailand as their test ground, I would definitely sign up for the FREEDOM ARMY against them. Edited May 19, 2010 by bermuda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herm Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 APC's, Military wearing Balaclavas, Heavy machine guns, and armed police, Now theirs a recipe for disaster. There is a way to success - finally!! God luck to the army and the government Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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