Thomas_Merton Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Which of all the films you have seen, do you think has corrupted you most? Here is a little quote from Lenny Bruce for inspiration: I would rather my child see a porn film than The Ten Commandments or King of Kings - because I don't want my kids to kill Christ when he comes back. That's what they see in those films - that violence.Well, let me just take your kids to a dirty movie: "All right kids, sit down now, this picture's gonna start. It's not like Psycho, with a lot of four-letter words, like 'kill' and 'maim' and 'hurt' - but you're gonna see this film now and what you see will probably impress you for the rest of your lives, so we have to be very careful what we show you.Oh, it's a dirty movie. A couple is coming in now. I don't know if it's gonna be as good as Psycho where we have the stabbing in the shower and the blood down the drain.Oh, the guy's picking up the pillow. Now, he'll probably smother her with it, and that'll be a good opening. Ah, the degenerate, he's putting it under her ass. Jesus, tsk, tsk, I hate to show this crap to you kids. All right, now he's lifting up his hand, and he'll probably strike her. No, he's caressing her, and kissing her - ah, this is disgusting! All right, he's kissing her some more, and she's saying something. She'll probably scream at him 'Get out of here!' No, she's saying 'I love you, I'm coming.' Kids, I'm sorry I showed you anything like this. God knows this will be on my conscience the rest of my life - there's a chance that you may do this when you grow up. Well, just try to forget what you've seen. Just remember, what this couple did belongs written on the walls of a men's room. And, in fact, if you ever want to do it, do it in the men's room." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_strangelove Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Glengarry Glen Ross, Scarface - Both Al Pacino Reservoir Dogs All 3 for the excess usage of the F word ... One line 3 time F this F that....and I ended up using F word too much... F those script writers.... there were more... but i forgot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampard10 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Probably Hitchcocks ' Marnie' with Sean Connery. First X rated I ever saw. 15 years old,I only went to see the tits. Didn't see any, and I've been looking for them in films since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerryd Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Corrupted ? Or just Influenced ? Never saw any "dirty" films as a youth, except Barbarella (Jane Fonda space-slut movie). Not much corruption there. Enter The Dragon probably had more influence on my than any other film I saw as a kid. Even now I'm addicted to choppy-socky movies. Then came "The Deer Hunter" and "Apocalypse Now" The dark side of man. "Full Metal Jacket" and "Platoon" (I was in the army, so of course I had to watch these kinds of movies !) Corrupted though ? Only film that comes to mind is "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" Almost went to see that with my dad when I was a youngster. Had a choice between that or "The Life of Brian". Told dad I didn't want to see a horror film (little did I know what the movie was all about). Lucky choice for me. Old man probably would have killed me if we'd gone to see Rocky Horror (gaurantee that he wouldn't have believed me if I told him I had no idea what the movie was about before going in). (ps - I don't wear women's under clothes ! My favourite characters from that movie were Riff Raff (the weird old butler) and Eddie (the rock 'n' roller played by Meatloaf) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camerata Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Enter The Dragon probably had more influence on my than any other film I saw as a kid. Even now I'm addicted to choppy-socky movies. Same here. Enter the Dragon was what got me heading for East Asia, but it seems corny now and I prefer Jackie Chan, Donnie Yen or Gordon Liu to Bruce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas_Merton Posted June 13, 2005 Author Share Posted June 13, 2005 Corrupted ? Or just Influenced ? Never saw any "dirty" films as a youth, except Barbarella (Jane Fonda space-slut movie). Not much corruption there.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If you read the quote from Lenny Bruce in the OP, and think about what he is trying to say, then you will get an idea of what I am on about. The film that corrupted me was Taxi Driver. I saw it when I was 19 years of age, but was unable to watch the closing violent sequences without periodically closing my eyes. Nevertheless it broke a tolerance barrier for visual violence, I have been working hard, the rest of my life, to repair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camerata Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 I think Sam Pekinpah movies were corrupting because they were the first to make extreme violence cool in the West. But I admit I liked some of them. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia is now available on DVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soi Mongrel Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 I got into Pier Paolo Pasolini's "Salo" at an art theater as a kid. I still have nightmares about that one to this day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayo Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 NAtural Born Killers Taught me to not give a rats (about the small things) Alfie (with michael caine, alright?!!) Taught me how to be around women Apocalypse Now Taught me to get high The Godfather Taught me respect. A lot of lessons learnt came back to me when I was adapting to Thailand, in terms of showing excessive respect to various members of the community. Brando, Pacino, et al were good teachers, for I fared well in LOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totster Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 "Piss and Champagne"... totster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camerata Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Alfie (with michael caine, alright?!!) Taught me how to be around women Hustle (Burt Reynolds, Catherine Deneuve) was a bad influence on me. Made me think it was cool to live with a high-class hooker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayo Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 "Piss and Champagne"... totster <{POST_SNAPBACK}> er.....What? Elaborate please tots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totster Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 "Piss and Champagne"... totster <{POST_SNAPBACK}> er.....What? Elaborate please tots? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's all in the title..... This film turned me a little bit kinky.. totster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayo Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 "Piss and Champagne"... totster <{POST_SNAPBACK}> er.....What? Elaborate please tots? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's all in the title..... This film turned me a little bit kinky.. totster <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Er... Totster, I just did a google search for it, and nearly got kicked out of the internet shop, until I made it clear that it was an accident. Folks, don´t google search this movie in public. I posted on the other movie thread, but the title of this thread is more relevant, the movie that has corrupted me most,, in a beautiful, poetic and sad manner: Nick Cage, Liz Shue, in Mike Figgis´Leaving Las Vegas. If any movie has had more impact on me, it must eb this one. In fact, I´m going to go over to the "Films that corrupted you most" thread and post this again. That movie gave me some direction, somewhat sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
custard Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Wild Thing for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totster Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 "Piss and Champagne"... totster <{POST_SNAPBACK}> er.....What? Elaborate please tots? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's all in the title..... This film turned me a little bit kinky.. totster <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Er... Totster, I just did a google search for it, and nearly got kicked out of the internet shop, until I made it clear that it was an accident. Folks, don´t google search this movie in public. I posted on the other movie thread, but the title of this thread is more relevant, the movie that has corrupted me most,, in a beautiful, poetic and sad manner: Nick Cage, Liz Shue, in Mike Figgis´Leaving Las Vegas. If any movie has had more impact on me, it must eb this one. In fact, I´m going to go over to the "Films that corrupted you most" thread and post this again. That movie gave me some direction, somewhat sadly. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The fact that I said it turned me a bit kinky should have given some indication as to the nature of the film.... totster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRIPxCORE Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 I prefer Jackie Chan, Donnie Yen or Gordon Liu to Bruce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
350torana Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Film that corrupted me most ' Up in Smoke' and the sequels that followed, along with Reefer Madness , I am sure this had a big influence on my teens early twenties. Of course, anyone who goes down that path in this country is stupid . Mad Max 1 and 2, corrupted me to the point that i was thinking Fords might have some cred on the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totster Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Film that corrupted me most ' Up in Smoke' and the sequels that followed, along with Reefer Madness , I am sure this had a big influence on my teens early twenties. Of course, anyone who goes down that path in this country is stupid . <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Funny films..... totster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spee Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 I guess my morals are okay, but it's not really up to me to make that call. That is for everyone else that I meet in society to determine. I've done things in my life that I'm proud and not proud of. But things are always done for a reason. It's up to the people I meet and know to judge me on those terms. I guess if I had to make a judgment call on this question, then it would be the Godfather series of movies. On one hand, the movies are all about honor and taking care of family and valued societal mores like those. On the other hand, it is about murder and using violence as a means to get what you want in life, including revenge and wealth. Then again, there is sometimes some merit to the philosophy of "don't get mad, get even." People might say that it really reflected mob life, but I don't believe that for a second. Mob life is all about lying, cheating, stealing, intimidating, ratting out friends and killing for selfish gains. The movies also reflect much of the hypocrisy of some parts of life. In the opening scene of Godfather Part II, Michael says to the politician who is trying to shake him down, "We're both part of the same hypocrisy, Senator." This is further reflected in other scenes of Part II where the young Vito gets his start in life by being a thief and murderer. Yet by doing so, he takes care of himself and his family. That is the hypocrisy. I also like the scene in the first movie, when the Don goes to tell Salozzo that he doesn't want to finance his heroin business. He dresses modestly and appears modest, to soothe Salozzo's ego. This is a common tactic in business. Then after Sonny mouths off, the Don scolds him by saying "Never tell anyone outside the family what you're thinking." There is a lot of merit in that statement. That is, keep your mouth shut and your eyes and ears open at the proper times. If information is no one's business, then don't volunteer it unless you need to in order to acheive some other means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDN Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Not "corrupted", but scared the shit out of me - "War Games"... a BBC film about the aftermath of nuclear war. I remember being relieved to see the sun still shining when I left the cinema. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampard10 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 (edited) Not "corrupted", but scared the shit out of me - "War Games"... a BBC film about the aftermath of nuclear war. I remember being relieved to see the sun still shining when I left the cinema. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think you are thinking of 'The Day After'...............'War Games' was about two kids that nearly started a nuclear war by hacking into computors. The only film I have ever been scared by, was the original 'Alien' It was so claustraphobic,so frightening,so brilliantly directed and at the time so unusual. I left the cinema drained. Me and three friends never said a word to each other till we got to the pub. Then we just went WOW. I do honestly think that if John Carpenters remake of 'The Thing' had come first it could easily have had the same impact on people that Alien did. Edited June 14, 2005 by lampard10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 The Age of Consent was a film I saw in my early teens... when I was just starting to notice the attration of the fairer sex.. man did I go off the rails after that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdnvic Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Mad Max didn't do alot for my driving habits, and Porky's turned me into a..... nevermind. cv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_strangelove Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 (edited) The film that corrupted me was Taxi Driver. I saw it when I was 19 years of age, but was unable to watch the closing violent sequences without periodically closing my eyes.Nevertheless it broke a tolerance barrier for visual violence, I have been working hard, the rest of my life, to repair. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I agree to this... There are a lot.. I shud say most of the top movies of list is not meant for any teenager or a young kid in his/her early twenties... Chances are more that they get it all wrong and end up having some weird ideas and character in their personal life... Sure they will enjoy the movie, but they will never ever see it the way the director wanted them to see... Atleast I wont buy that a 20 something kid can see the real depth of characters of Forrest Gump or Citizen Kane or go through the mind of Oscar Schindler. They might enjoy Private Ryan for its war sequence, might become a big fan of Robert De Niro after watching Taxi Driver and shave his head that way and think of carrying weapons... I never recommed these movies to anyone until they have seen something in life.... And I think thats where Deer Hunter makes a difference Edited June 14, 2005 by dr_strangelove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spee Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Not "corrupted", but scared the shit out of me - "War Games"... a BBC film about the aftermath of nuclear war. I remember being relieved to see the sun still shining when I left the cinema. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Same for me with "Sum of All Fears." Having studied nuclear energy in a former life, I'm fully aware of the consequences and just how fast it happens, quicker than the blink of an eye it's all over. That scenario is downright scary. If you've seen it, you've had it. If you get lucky, the blast kills you. If you get unlucky, then you have to suffer through a painful radiation death. The detonation of a small tactical nuke in a major western city, IMHO, is the worst case scenario of our generation. Scary stuff that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadman Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Harold and Maud. Any film celebrating gerontophilia and necrophilia is likely to have some effect, as I was telling my 86 yr-old g/f last night in bed. Didn't get much response, though. Spice Girls - The Movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autonomous_unit Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 I cannot say that I think any of these movies corrupted me, or even that they could have! I do remember being depressed a bit by The Day After... because it was broadcast on TV in the US when I was in grade school and we were still living under the shadow of the supposed world war 3. We had "duck and cover" drills for earthquakes but if I remember correctly there were still some fading posters around from the civil defense, pretend-your-hands-can-block-gamma-rays days. Everyone knew we were probably within the blast radius of whatever was permanently aimed at the local naval weapons station. I think I was already jaded and understanding most movie violence as a darker social commentary when I was 8 or 10. I remember movies like Rambo and Commando being ultra violent, but while there was a certain level of "coolness" to the heros it didn't lead my generation to glorify violence or think less of death. Maybe there is ambivalence. We liked to play the antihero, to be be Darth Vader to the end, as much as to be Luke or Han. I guess if I was "corrupted" it was by irreverent comedies like Monty Python, M.A.S.H., Animal House, etc. and my favorite low-budget Scifi film Darkstar with a suicidally depressed planet-killing bomb. I always did question authority... But the incessant news media probably has more impact than the matinee. I think the generation slightly younger than me (generation Y?) in the US have more hawkish attitudes because they really do not remember the Cold War nor the sorrows of Vietnam War vets, and instead their first view was the video-game CNN coverage of smart bombs in the Gulf War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDN Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Not "corrupted", but scared the shit out of me - "War Games"... a BBC film about the aftermath of nuclear war. I remember being relieved to see the sun still shining when I left the cinema. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think you are thinking of 'The Day After'...............'War Games' was about two kids that nearly started a nuclear war by hacking into computors. The only film I have ever been scared by, was the original 'Alien' It was so claustraphobic,so frightening,so brilliantly directed and at the time so unusual. I left the cinema drained. Me and three friends never said a word to each other till we got to the pub. Then we just went WOW. I do honestly think that if John Carpenters remake of 'The Thing' had come first it could easily have had the same impact on people that Alien did. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sorry Lamps, it was "The War Game", not "War Games" as I wrote. I do remember the latter, but that was quite a recent film. "The War Game" was mid-60's and was so shocking it was banned from TV even though it was made by the BBC for BBC TV! And it was only shown in selected cinemas. I saw it in the local flea-pit in Portsmouth - just south of the Guildhall - and remember the relief of feeling the warmth of the sun when I left the cinema - it really was so scary. I did manage to see it on TV - Channel 4, I think - many years later, maybe around mid 1990's. if you ever get a chance to see it, please do, but wear thick underpants. THE WAR GAMEUK. 1965..... Plot: The world teeters on the brink of nuclear war as the USSR invades West Berlin..... And then a nuclear strike hits London and millions are killed.... Originally this 48-minute pseudo-documentary was commissioned by BBC tv to commemorate the twentieth anniversary of Hiroshima, but it has since become a work of legend. After viewing by executives, its grimly realistic, no-holds-barred portrayal of nuclear war was deemed too shocking for public viewing and it was banned. ...... a testament to the film’s power to shock that it was not until 1985, some twenty years later, before the ban was lifted and it was ever screened on air by the BBC. http://www.moria.co.nz/sf/wargame.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampard10 Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Not "corrupted", but scared the shit out of me - "War Games"... a BBC film about the aftermath of nuclear war. I remember being relieved to see the sun still shining when I left the cinema. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think you are thinking of 'The Day After'...............'War Games' was about two kids that nearly started a nuclear war by hacking into computors. The only film I have ever been scared by, was the original 'Alien' It was so claustraphobic,so frightening,so brilliantly directed and at the time so unusual. I left the cinema drained. Me and three friends never said a word to each other till we got to the pub. Then we just went WOW. I do honestly think that if John Carpenters remake of 'The Thing' had come first it could easily have had the same impact on people that Alien did. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sorry Lamps, it was "The War Game", not "War Games" as I wrote. I do remember the latter, but that was quite a recent film. "The War Game" was mid-60's and was so shocking it was banned from TV even though it was made by the BBC for BBC TV! And it was only shown in selected cinemas. I saw it in the local flea-pit in Portsmouth - just south of the Guildhall - and remember the relief of feeling the warmth of the sun when I left the cinema - it really was so scary. I did manage to see it on TV - Channel 4, I think - many years later, maybe around mid 1990's. if you ever get a chance to see it, please do, but wear thick underpants. THE WAR GAMEUK. 1965..... Plot: The world teeters on the brink of nuclear war as the USSR invades West Berlin..... And then a nuclear strike hits London and millions are killed.... Originally this 48-minute pseudo-documentary was commissioned by BBC tv to commemorate the twentieth anniversary of Hiroshima, but it has since become a work of legend. After viewing by executives, its grimly realistic, no-holds-barred portrayal of nuclear war was deemed too shocking for public viewing and it was banned. ...... a testament to the film’s power to shock that it was not until 1985, some twenty years later, before the ban was lifted and it was ever screened on air by the BBC. http://www.moria.co.nz/sf/wargame.htm <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh...that is interesting,I must look out for it. I must confess I had never heard of it. Cheers. 'The Day After' was quite a shocker as well. That was around 1980 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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