Desperate British Expat Searches For Kidnapped Son In Bangkok

[loser1]

what's twidder ?

Thats what it's called these days have a look at the video clip thats linked in this thread.

[Livinginexile]

<!--quoteo(post=3665242:date=2010-06-04 09:10:20:name=scubajo)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (scubajo @ 2010-06-04 09:10:20) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=3665242"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Martin, my heart goes out for you!

I am interested in the background of your wife, I read that her family live in a poor area, that they are originally from Surin and that she is the one working, while you stay at home to take care of Tristan. These things don't seem to add up.. I think that some domestic information would shed some more light on the situation.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

What is there to add up?

As Martin stays in Thailand, I would think that he has some form of savings or income. Maybe his wife likes to go to work.

It's not at all unusual for a wife to work while the husband stays at home to take care of the kids. This isn't the 1950's you know.

My missus is at work and her daughter is at home with me, I don't consider that strange at all.

It's a lot easier for a Thai woman to work than her farang husband

Martin, you often say in your posts that your wife works in an office in Bangkok.

To put more information on the subject could you please let us know exactly what her job is?

The reason I ask is that the profile you paint of your wifes family does not fit that of a professional girl working in Bangkok.

Edited June 18, 2010 by Livinginexile

[loser1]

<!--quoteo(post=3665242:date=2010-06-04 09:10:20:name=scubajo)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (scubajo @ 2010-06-04 09:10:20) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=3665242"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Martin, my heart goes out for you!

I am interested in the background of your wife, I read that her family live in a poor area, that they are originally from Surin and that she is the one working, while you stay at home to take care of Tristan. These things don't seem to add up.. I think that some domestic information would shed some more light on the situation.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

What is there to add up?

As Martin stays in Thailand, I would think that he has some form of savings or income. Maybe his wife likes to go to work.

It's not at all unusual for a wife to work while the husband stays at home to take care of the kids. This isn't the 1950's you know.

My missus is at work and her daughter is at home with me, I don't consider that strange at all.

It's a lot easier for a Thai woman to work than her farang husband

Martin, you often say in your posts that your wife works in an office in Bangkok.

To put more information on the subject could you please let us know exactly what her job is?

The reason I ask is that the profile you paint of your wifes family does not fit that of a professional girl working in Bangkok.

Risky post!!

[GungaDin]

Risky post!!

Are you Trolling?

It's a reasonable question!

You made a poor taste post earlier, which was deleted.

I hope this one suffers the same treatment.

Engage brain before touching a keyboard.

[DangerfieldLives]

<!--quoteo(post=3665242:date=2010-06-04 09:10:20:name=scubajo)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (scubajo @ 2010-06-04 09:10:20) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=3665242"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Martin, my heart goes out for you!

I am interested in the background of your wife, I read that her family live in a poor area, that they are originally from Surin and that she is the one working, while you stay at home to take care of Tristan. These things don't seem to add up.. I think that some domestic information would shed some more light on the situation.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

The implication in these questions is quite clear, but bar girls do not have an exclusive domain on crazy, or at least overly demanding mothers-in-law. Irrational mums-in-law can be found at all levels of Thai society and in all parts; your easy assumptions about the Northeast are not written in stone rules and shades of grey start to appear once you've been here long enough and get to know a broader spectrum of people.

As for Martin working at home, he's an IT analyst or some such isn't he? Why go into an office if you don't have to? Makes sense to me.

Any luck Martin?

[loser1]

Risky post!!

Are you Trolling?

It's a reasonable question!

You made a poor taste post earlier, which was deleted.

I hope this one suffers the same treatment.

Engage brain before touching a keyboard.

Yeah where is Martin i do hope he's ok. Has anybody got any news on the kidnapping of this baby?? It amazes me how this story has not made it on to the UK's 'News at 10'

Anybody who saw him in the footage from that local london news cast will have seen how desperate he was i do hope he is ok!!

Has any body got any news on the search ? There was a lot of Expast interest to start with, with offers to join in the search province by province but it's died off a little. I'm sure we can get this going again if we all get Twiddering.

:(I for one am very worried

Edited June 19, 2010 by loser1

[jan1van1hooten]

don't know if I can be of much help, but if you need an extra pair of hands at any point in this procedure, send me a pm.

[loser1]

don't know if I can be of much help, but if you need an extra pair of hands at any point in this procedure, send me a pm.

Oh it's beautiful to see the Thai visa guys all pulling together as one, how many searchers have we got on the hunt now? If anybody needs any help searching... for anything give me a PM too.

[kmjgreening]

very sad story...I think it would be better if you don't let your Thai wife know all the actions that you are planning to do to get your son back..

[lonewolf99]

Thanks for posting my son's story and photo, if anyone thinks they might have seen him in Bangkok anywhere or has contacts who might be able to get us to get the local police interested in helping us find him, please get in touch.

He was last known to be being held in the Saphan Taksin Soi 8 area.

Martin

Martin,

I went through a very similar situation in 2004 when my 3 year old dissapeared.

I was asked for 1 million baht to see my son. The asking party was the in laws.....

To cut a long story short... it was an extortion plan from my wife's family and included my wife; even though she was by my side every day pretending to cry.

I was "wisened" by a police officer who advised me not to believe my wife. This was hard for him to do and for me to believe.

In the end it turned out that my wife was keeping a tab on me while my son would be moved around every time we (I) got closer. Even though I had arranged to pay the money, nothing happened. I did not hand the money over as I insisted that only when I saw my son they would get the money. My wife knew I had the money ready but she also knew that I would not hand it over until I saw my son. I did not give in and held on.....

Eventually I got away from my wife and tracked them all down myself. It took me six months but I did it. These would have had to be the worst 6 months in my life....

I got my son back, divorced my wife and took my son overseas where he has been schooling now for the last 5 years. AND he/we is very HAPPY!

Some notes:

The police officer that made me open my eyes said to me;

1) In Thailand the father has a right to the chidren just as much (if not more) as the mother (not like in our western countries where mums get their way).

2) I was told if I ever saw my son to pick him up in my arms and just walk away. Don't fight, don't argue just walk away! WITH MY SON. In his words who has has. If I had my son no one could take him away NOT EVEN THE POLICE! Same if she had him.

3) Make sure that no friend helps me to carry my son. I was to do it alone. My friends if any helped could be charged with kidnaping. I could not as I am the father.

4) Arrange for a divorce settlement and if there is property involved the wife would be more interested in the property than the child. THEY were 100% correct. She signed away her rights of my son and I walked away with 0% of the house. Not that we foreigners have any right to property as we are made to sign that land is purchased entirely with funds of the wife and 0% contribution form us (foreigners). You can own the house but not the land. I prefered to carry my son away rather than the bricks and tiles...

This is my story and I hope your is really different.....

BUT I tell you these ladies are great actors right to the end.... this is not to imply all Thai ladies but the ones that get up to it they are bloody good at it!

GOOD LUCK!

I scrolled through the replies looking to see if any one had pinned a report like this one.....and sadly I was not surpsised when I saw it.

My basal insticts clicked in and I am afraid I smell a stinking rat behind this story - I hope I am wrong but but a good Private Eye with access to mobile phone tracking will be able to pin down the location of this kid and find out if the wife has been in constant contact with the "bad" inlaws.

I also see other posts that are thinking along the same lines as me.....

I feel sorry for anyone that has to go through such turmoil - even more so when it is all based on greed and extorsion. These people are low life scum.

Edited July 1, 2010 by lonewolf99

[mjperry]

Wanted to update everybody who has offered help and support during these difficult 3 months. We finally got Tristan back today after a few weeks of broken promises and false hopes, thanks for all the advice and sharing your stories too. No money had to be paid in the end just to clarify for anyone wondering.<div><br></div><div>Perhaps I can post a new photo of how he has grown since he has been missing and to show he can stand up by himself now and has managed a couple of simple mama and dada noises.</div><div><br></div><div>Martin</div>

[souvenirdeparis]

makes me feel good

[animatic]

Great to know this.

I can't imagine the relief you feel.

Good luck for the future.

[Basil B]

Nice to know you now have your son back, sure would not wish your experience on my worst enemies.

[MikeyIdea]

Good to hear Martin, it's a wonderful time when the kid starts to communicate, enjoy every minute

[welo]

That's good news. Thanks for lettings us know!