What To Do If You Are Threatened By A Thai

[MP5]

I thought it was pizza hut

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Pizza Hut is 1150

[bkkmadness]

I thought it was pizza hut

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Pizza Hut is 1150

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Certainly an important number to keep in your phone at all times as well.

Concerning all the "don't deal with Thai males" brigade, sometimes you have to, how can you do business in this country without dealing with Thai males?

[MP5]

I thought it was pizza hut

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Pizza Hut is 1150

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Certainly an important number to keep in your phone at all times as well.

Concerning all the "don't deal with Thai males" brigade, sometimes you have to, how can you do business in this country without dealing with Thai males?

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Who delivers your pizza?

On a more serious note Mafia (Organised crime) Mods discretion please!

A small group of thugs. (You are miles of track)

The Kingdom of Thailand has hosted many Interpol conferences over the years. Thailand’s reputation, not only as a nation but also as gracious hosts, is in no small measure. Over 33 nations and 22 observers are represented.

Bangkok is also the site of Interpol’s Asian regional liaison office. Being the only one of its kind to serve Interpol’s wide Asian network, stretching from the Middle East to the Pacific, it is only natural that its possible future development will be a subject of discussions. One thing is clear though: Interpol’s liaison office in Bangkok could not operate at all without the support and facilities that have been made available by the Royal Thai Police.

Asia together with Oceania is Interpol’s largest region, with a total population of nearly 4 billion people (3 712 393 000), or over 61 percent of the world’s population. All but four of Asia’s countries are Interpol members, and 19 Asian police officers serve at the General Secretariat.

The range of serious new crime problems that are the unintended consequence of economic globalisation and new technologies, like the Internet, are of grave concern to police all around the world. Asia is not immune from these new crime phenomena. Through global business and information technology, modern communications and expansive tourism, Asia is today more connected than ever before to the rest of the world, and vice versa.

Reports of trafficking in human beings, drug smuggling, terrorism, money-laundering, fraud and corruption hit the headlines almost every day. Asia is at the forefront in dealing with these challenging problems. It is clear of the need to cooperate more often, more intimately and more ambitiously to be able to cope.

So, what are the modern-day crime trends where Interpol should place its limited resources in the coming years. Let me touch on four areas:

First is cyber crime. Technology can be used by both crooks and cops! But while organised crime gangs have wasted no time in adapting new technologies to their ends, the efforts of the international community have remained fragmented and weapons of law enforcement almost obsolete.

Clearly, cyber crime and electronic vandalism represent new crime methods, and create new and severe problems that are international in focus and very complex for law enforcement to tackle.

Let me give three examples:

Reported hacking incidents targeting state and public organisations in South Korea has risen by over 400 percent in the last year.

The May 2000 'I love you' computer virus from the Philippines, spread via e-mail, caused an estimated global damage of around 10 billion US dollars.

Electronic vandalism cripple and deface private and public websites throughout the Asian region and globally.

Here is an important role where Interpol can help police officers worldwide. Interpol has contributed to the fight against cyber crime by establishing four regional working parties. Their achievements so far include the development of an early warning system with a 24-hour international response, a computer crime manual (now available on CD and on Interpol’s own website), and a number of specialised training courses.

In November last year, Interpol’s Asian-South Pacific Working Party on Information Technology Crime launched a regional intelligence study, designed to measure the size of this crime problem in Asia. A working party had a progress meeting here in Bangkok aimed at expanding participation in the project from the region. Needless to say, this is a most important venture. It seems certain that the incidents and impact of information technology crime will increase enormously over the next years.

A second area Interpol must focus on is economic crime, credit card fraud and money-laundering. Every day, the profits from drugs, extortion or simple expropriation in developing countries slide by devious paths into seemingly respectable bank accounts. Bankers are not policemen, and they are understandably reluctant to pry into the affairs of customers who for the most are honest and respectable.

Still, much more can and must be done to make money-laundering, credit card swindle and other fraud schemes more difficult and risky for criminal organisations. Reform of the banking sector in many countries should be one of our priorities. Also, administrative procedures should be rendered more transparent and controlled through accountability procedures, in order to avoid common bribery practices. The international community, and with it Interpol, has an important role in this field.

Asia is characterised by several important features which influence money-laundering methods used in the region: the existence of major drug production centres; a well established and growing drug abuse problem; an entrenched and international underground banking system; the high use of cash; and the existence of highly structured organised crime groups. Probably the most significant of these, in the sense of money-laundering, is the underground banking system. Governments must now pass laws that will help the police address this conduit for criminal profits.

The level of information on money-laundering sent to Interpol from within the Asian region is unfortunately very small. Money-laundering is a major problem.

A highly motivated team of police specialists at Interpol’s General Secretariat now focus on money-laundering, and five detailed intelligence projects are being launched in the region covering all aspects of money-laundering. Nevertheless, these projects can only succeed, and Interpol can only add real value to investigation of these offences, when we have sufficient incident reporting and intelligence information.

Most crime is for profit, and while top level organised crime figures are smart to stay away from the criminal activity and hire underlings for this, they want to stay close to their profits. The police need help in following the money to these kingpins. Money flows borderless, and no one country can cope with these problems alone. Interpol should be there to help.

A third crime area deserving our attention is the traffic in human beings, especially women and children, for forced and exploitative labour, including sexual exploitation. Human trafficking within and from South East Asia is very prevalent and a principal crime issue.

Thailand has estimated that trafficking in human beings is the third largest source of profits for organised crime, just behind drugs and guns.

Some examples:

In November last year, a Nepalese national was arrested for having trafficked girls to India for prostitution - 300 women sold over a 10-year period, none of them rescued.

In January this year, eight men were sentenced in China for having kidnapped more than 300 women and children.

In the same month this year, Bangladesh numbered their missing and trafficked children over the last decade at over 5,000, with almost 1,000 of those forcibly kidnapped.

With revealing numbers such as these, it is surprising that Interpol has not received any official reports of humans trafficking from Asia or Oceania. Help is needed in providing better information on this growing crime problem.

This is one of the most serious violations of human rights which the international community now confronts, a modern-day slave trade that nations, governments and law enforcement agencies must do their utmost to put a stop to. We simply cannot turn our head in the other direction or say that these crimes are too difficult to investigate or prosecute.

The fourth crime area is drugs trafficking. It is interesting to note that in the past America and Europe viewed Asia as a source country for drugs. The tables are now turned and Europe is now a source country for an Asian drug problem.

Today, illicit synthetic drugs are a major concern for the Asian region. Last year, more than 22 tonnes of metamphetamine in crystal form and more than 100 million ecstasy tablets were seized in this region. The primary source region is Europe. Yes, Europe, and the method of operation is creative.

Interpol has identified Asian criminal groups that are exporting heroin to Europe, which is then exchanged for ecstasy tablets that are taken back to Asia by the same couriers. Interpol’s project ‘Exit’ closely monitors police activities against synthetic drugs. An Exit sub-project, focusing on synthetic drugs in Asia, will soon conduct its first operational briefing in this region. Meanwhile, Interpol maintains its strong commitment to supporting the region in its anti-narcotic programs on heroin, cocaine and cannabis.

Priority areas two other related matters of great immediate concern:

Euro counterfeiting. The largest establishment of a new currency in the History of Money took place in early January 2002. The introduction of euro notes and coins for 300 million people in a single monetary area was an important event for the world. People all over the world increasingly view a unified Europe through the prism of its single currency. But not only that! It will also present great opportunities for criminals, and a myriad of potential problems for the police, from the point of production of the new currency to its transport worldwide during a concentrated period of time.

While these problems are more than counterfeiting, The nations of the European Union who adopt the new currency. There will be no more marks, or francs, or lira, and unfamiliar bills will start changing hands. Europe and Europol will need the full attention and help from the rest of the world. As you all know, we now live in a globalised and highly connected world where money, unfortunately also counterfeited money travels fast while law enforcement action runs into dozens of jurisdictions with different regulatory and policing functions.

Interpol’s 178 member states need to be aware of the euro counterfeit challenge, have materials and equipment to identify good from bad currency, share information on counterfeiting activities and opportunities. Think for a moment of the opportunities for counterfeiters!

Corruption. It would be senseless not to indicate that corruption is a serious problem in governments around the world. Anyone with authority is potentially subject to bribes. In consequence, this is a problem for the police. An honest and trustworthy police service is essential to the advancement of human rights, democracy and economic freedom. The willingness to share sensitive information is based on trust, while corruption is the strongest impediment to developing such trust.

Interpol will take a leadership role in helping to develop standards and practices and share experiences to help the world’s police forces weed out corruption. The way to do it is to develop the professionalism their citizens can expect from them. Remember that a corrupt police officer, in any of our countries, is a threat to the reputation of fine police officers worldwide!

Not only must we look at new crime areas, such as the examples I have just given, but we must be creative in how we do this.

Being able to identify and understand new crime trends. If information is deficient, then strategic predictions and extrapolations for the future will also suffer from information deficiency. So, to be able to serve global membership, including Asian members, reports are needed on international crimes and criminals. Interpol simply cannot succeed without a strong and consistent intelligence contribution by its many Asian members.

The draft Interpol business plan outlining proposed improvement initiatives for the Asian region. Seriously consider, discuss and then firmly establish the regional objectives and commitments that are now required to advance Interpol goals and activities in this vast world region.

For example:

The establishment of an Interpol sub-regional bureau here in Bangkok, through voluntary attachment of staff from the region and in order to better serve the needs of Asia.

The creation of other regional service arrangements to better adapt Interpol cooperation to the different needs in this diverse region.

The importance of the Interpol business plan for Asia. A plan approved will guide the General Secretariat and each member state over the next few years. It will give the blueprint for going forward in Asia. More than anything, Interpol, should be essential to policing throughout Asia.

There are still too many gaps in the international police net to curb organised criminal gangs. Interpol must do a better job in increasing cooperation and coordination among the world’s national police forces. In the critical fight against transnational organised crime constructing a strategy - a joint, coherent and global strategy where we need to think globally, plan regionally and act locally.

If you look back through this forum you'll see just how much a motor cycle jacket is worth to operate a motor cycle taxi.

Thugs they be but be assured Mr. White collar is running the show one way or another.

Edited June 28, 2005 by MP5

[350torana]

Lots of mai pen rai's can not do any harm . I have not had many problems with Thai males...hmmm females...another story.

Did have one problem with one crazy guy. He would stalk my wife everywhere, including pulling up on his motorbike outside her house and having a nice chuck wow He and his friends always wanted a piece of me coming around to our house. I stayed behind the fence, a 4 to one(or 2 if u include our black lab )is unfair and stupid . Wifey's dad is a high ranking retired policeman and when he heard all the details, the trouble stopped, never saw the crazy guy or his mates every again. I don't like to think what happened to them.

My point is if u have strong connections with a Puu Yai then alot of probs can be solved

[Nam Kao]

If you do get in a slug fest with one of these Thai guys and beat them -

THATS when the real problems start, I guarantee They will be back

armed (guns knives) and with many friends.

If you end up in a fight and win, make tracks, get out of Dodge, Head for the hills,

well you get the idea....

[aughie]

The sooner your friend has nothing to do with this jealous businessman the sooner he will not be thinking about your friend. Why should your friend associate with this guy? Do they need each other for anything? An association reminds the jealous man of a business transaction that led to his weakness and failure to do right by your friend. Continuing a realtionship could be seen as your friend trying to make the guy feel guilty and thus controling of the guy. Easiest for all parties to move on and to forget. At least for awhile. You've got 8 years of experience to draw upon.

Here's a funny thread on Being Whacked!

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=22995&st=0

[Boatabike]

The standard Thai approach would be to get a fellow Thai of high standing to liase for you with the other party, keep things cool at all times and never under value the loss of face thingy. The guy who has stiched you up has already lost face by showing himself to be dishonest so he will over react to the situation accordingly, if you want to solve this it needs to be done in a way that allows all partys to back away without losing anymore face. Posters that have suggested that they would deal violence with the same have no understanding of where that leads to here in LOS, i can pay someone 500 baht and you will have no kneecaps. If you start down that road there will only be one loser. You need to get advice from a local Thai person who knows the guy in question, not asking a bunch of would be experts (myself included) on TV. The advice you get here will vary from fair to you getting killed lol Find someone of standing in your community and ask them for advice.

[Curt]

How would a Thai normally deal with this? How would a farang?

Most thais would have waited for the "associate" to respond, not head over to his place for a confrontation.

If he plans on delivering the goods, he will deliver the goods, albeit in his timeframe.

If he is scamming, he is scamming.

Either way, confrontation will not help anything.

You're reading many farang responses.

I get sick of hearing about "mafia" in Thailand. Mafia? yeah right a couple of unorganised thugs is all they are.

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I tend to agree, the myth is greater than reality in my experience.

If your friend is in the right and has nothing to hide and he has been scammed then tell the cops, you don’t have to know a cop but of course it helps if you do. Also by informing the Police, the situation is booked and noted, therefore a degree of protection is forthcoming. If the Police can recover the money is another story.

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Life is cheap in Thailand.

It doesn't take the mafia to eliminate a problem.

Getting the cops involved will escalate the situation.

I doubt the money involved will inspire them to pursue it to any great degree.

If it does turn voilent, or fatal, you'd better have money to help the investigation along.

Just like in the west, assult/murder investigations cost a bunch, and unless it's high profile, it better be cheap and easy.

Sadly, I speak from experience (a deceased relative).

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Girlx,

At this point, I really can't see you guys coming out ahead.

Unless your posse is badder than the associate's, simply lie low and hope it fades away.

If it gets uglier, there's always New York or San Francisco.

Over your time in Thailand, I've read about all your friend's problems.

Ever thought about finding new friends and/or neighbors?

[haha]

in every society whether it be in europe, the usa, china, or thailand, there are people who are criminal. you just need to be aware of them. and stay away.

to say "stay away from thai males" is just too much of a generalization.

I know of many thai guys who are stand up guys. many of them were educated overseas. and they think just like me - logically.

[Totster]

Make yourself cry...

55555555

what have you got... a hanky with albas oil on... or do you just think sad thoughts...

brightened up my morning...

totster

[girlx]

to curt and haha...

first, i have attracted trouble my entire life... it's nothing i do (except that i am adventurous and i probably put myself in vulnerable situations more than most), it's just the way it is. my thai male friends are truly decent guys as a whole. some of the people whom they know are jealous of them and are not so decent- but those people are not my friends.

this can happen to anyone anywhere in thailand. thais are the most irrational people i have ever met.

secondly, thai males have horrible reputations, and in some ways it is deserved.... but i have learned a lot about them in the past 8 years and their reputation is something they struggle against constantly. it's the same with blacks in america- people are afraid of them and expect them to be loser ghetto drug dealers. when in fact most of them would love the chance to do something great but are impeded by economics and lack of education. (and it's sad that there is a whole upper class of respectable thai men who are often labeled by this as well). the fact that thai people are incredibly, hopelessly racist against any hint of darker skin is an additional barrier for guys from the northeast. they just have no hope at all- they can't get normal jobs, upper class people simply refuse to talk to them, etc. etc. so they have to do everything on their own which is totally contradictory to their cultural value of interdependence. thus they fight pretty hard to keep what they manage to get. i have seen them get violent. often irrational... but it usually just takes a bit of understanding and calm conversation to work things out with them, because they are good guys, just defensive. probably easier for me because i am female, but most of them look up to farang, and if you just show a bit of cultural understanding, it gets you far in these situations.

that said, i have also learned that there is a point with some thai males at which they stop listening to reason. usually this is when they are drunk. my suggestion is to, instead of generalizing thai males as a whole, just make sure to avoid them in big groups or when they are drunk.

the exceptions are what i am worried about in this post.

Edited June 29, 2005 by girlx

[RamdomChances]

If anyone brings a fight to my door, thats what they will get. I dont say that to be a hero, it comes down to standing your ground.

People whatever culture, will back down if they are confronted back with the same ferocity as they have shown. If they dont, well theres nothing else to do but "do what ever you can" and primal instincts set in - survival.

Ask him what the problem is, let him know you dont want an argument/problem, if he does not see sense, break his nose. Ofcourse you would definately have to move afterwards.

I get sick of hearing about "mafia" in Thailand. Mafia? yeah right a couple of unorganised thugs is all they are.

Ofcourse there is the other way and that would be to make friends quickly and show your numbers, be it a high up police man or local thug. It all comes down to money here, if your wallet is bigger than his, you get will get better help.

Many people here would opt for an easier approach, like befriending him or buying him a bottle of whiskey - not me!

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Torn, for once I'm in total agreement with you......although I do suffer from "short bloke syndrom" so this could explain it

[AsiaWolfie]

MP5, very interesting information you gave us. I have heard - from a usually reliable source - that thailand is in the top-10 of the world when it comes to violence / violent crimes. Is that true ?

[soi lurker]

Cut your losses and go about your buisiness as usual. I think your one step in front of them as they have let you know exactly how they feel...... you and your friend, on the other hand, have been nothing but honest an forthright (as far as the post has described). In my opinion, it is you that has the upper hand........you can take any direction you choose and have given nothing away to suggest you will submit or react.

Threats can be made for face value, so are most times taken with a pinch of salt if you know what i mean. Wait this one out, good luck, im sure things will sort out for the both of you............

[jomama]

i am a girl so i could possibly use crying to my benefit, though i am more likely to bite off their nose.

against the advice of an above poster, i have dealt almost solelywith Thai men since i first came to Thailand 8 years ago, and i know that indeed something totally petty and imagined can be a big problem... yes resorting to violence but generally that is when they are extremely emotional and in your face...  but i don't think it would come to that.

if it does i hope the best man wins. i for one will never grovel. i think i would outsmart them somehow!

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A farang friend of mine is gay. For whatever reasons, he always ends up with lower-educated Thai guys. The list of his travails is long: house burlarized numerous times by former “friends”; lots of money lost “helping” with their latest schemes (usually to have a small pub or restaurant); important documents stolen and held for ransom.

The latest incident: A former “friend” broke into his house and stole his bankbooks, valuable camera he brought from the States many years ago and passport. My friend called the police (finally) and needed a translator. I suggested he do not take someone from his work, so my wife went with him to the police station to translate.

When she got home she was so shocked. His “friend” worked at a gasoline station, had six fingers on one hand (really) and was rough, rough. I’ll spare the details, but both she and I agree that there are people who are in so much need -- their backgrounds don’t give them much of a chance, if any -- that it’s impossible to change their lives that much, especially the men.

Thai men are kings of the house, whether they’re little boys being pampered or “adults” who are not getting eveything they want. Stir in some Maekong whiskey and you’ve got one h*ll of a volatile brew. Please see:

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/09/18/...l?from=storyrhs

If that doesn’t work, just do a google search on “Ingrid Poulson.”

She is a friend of mine with whom I’ve worked. She met a Thai guy in Chiang Mai and took him back to Australia with her, where her family tried to help him. I’ve been trying for two years to contact her but she has vanished (I don’t blame her).

Can’t you find someone with some education? And by that I mean a college degree and professional job. There are lots of nice educated Thai guys out there that would be happy to meet a farang girl.

[bina]

girlx<

The standard Thai approach would be to get a fellow Thai of high standing to liase for you with the other party, keep things cool at all times and never under value the loss of face thingy.

this is the best piece of advice;

from my experiences here of thai male 'pit jai' and losing face, and violence (and lots fo drunk), i've learned that they always use someone 'higher up' to intermediate , after a bit of time has gone by to let people 'jai yen yen ' a bit...

yes, issaan males do seem to go ballistic when drunk, the best then is not to argue but to cajole, persuade, agree, and baby them (since you are female, that is the expected behavior)... i used to try the typical israeli yelling and p.o. mode which led to very nasty violent behavior, now i do the other; i've earned a reputation of being very jai yen , and have managed this way to neutralize some very volatile situations (drunk thais vs. angry arab labourers); groups of thais from other areas (all men, usually drunk) going for it over hi/lo /gambling debts etc... i never never never get involved directly if i can help it unless its by moving the 'drunk man' away from the area etc...

we had a group that showed up one day, viciously beat up my worker and someone else (drunk fight over lent money of course ); a few days later they got retribution; for months after, when those guys came by 'to say hello' etc my guys would just magically be busy going somewhere else, or have to work, etc.... they would just fade away very elegantly until things cooled down by themselves; and they would avoid going thru the area where they might run in to those guys again until it all cooled down

[Heng]

not asking a bunch of would be experts (myself included) on TV. The advice you get here will vary from fair to you getting killed lol

The best advice so far.

[wamberal]

I have been in and around Hong Kong and Thailand for many years, although now retired in Australia.

The best advice I had was NEVER get into a fight with a local. We don't really understand the rules, and we don't know who we are fighting against. And I am a huge ex-rugby player, but I can tell everybody here that discretion is the better part of valour.

Sometimes the best way through an obstacle is to slip around it, or avoid it by being a bit smarter than the average bear.

As to those who think there is a "matter of principle" involved, I would earnestly recommend you go to live somewhere where matters of principle actually matter. If you want to survive, try to re-order your priorities to those which are effective in a totally different culture to that in which most of us grew up.

[mpdkorat]

i feel the same tornado, but that is sort of a farang perspective, isn't it?   i don't think my friend should be a doormat, but i don't think confrontation is the thing either.

what it boils down to i think is the guy is jealous of my friend. they are in the same business but my friend's is doing better and that is why he got this big order. plus he had a farang to lend him the money. the guy probably sees this as an unfair advantage rather than "just life".  jealousy can be a sketchy thing in thailand.

when it comes down to it though, my wallet is definitely bigger. and i know a lot of thai boxers!

hopefully it will blow over like my previous situation eventually did. which by the way was similar but not the same (MP5).

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It's Thai V's Thai stay out of it. If you do you will not have any problem. Keep a low profile and do not lend money to anyone. Anyone, Unless you are willing to lose it.

[mpdkorat]

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unfortunately i am involved because i loaned the money to my friend to get these materials (silver for jewelry making) and they know that.

I'm just curious. Did you face all these situations by yourself or only listened to it from your friend ? Have you met the guy your friend deal with? I'm wondering who was ripped off- you or your friend.

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Very good point indeed

[girlx]

technically it was my money (and not much so i don't really care) but it's my friend who is dealing with threats since he was the one who went through this guy for materials.

[girlx]

and as for high class thai men, i don't think they are any different, from my experience when it comes to getting irrationally emotional. however i would love to meet a nice educated thai man that i LIKE. that is the problem... i find most "hi-so" people i have met to be shallow, pretentious, and boring. living a coddled life doesn't usually make a person all that interesting. i am sure there are exceptions, but i haven't met them. isaan people are lovely- fun, happy, generous. the majority of my friends here are isaan or from the islands.

[jomama]

i find most "hi-so" people i have met to be shallow, pretentious, and boring.  living a coddled life doesn't usually make a person all that interesting.

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Probably true...but I don't know...I would rather be assosiated with an educated pr*ck than an uneducated pr*ck..could be wrong though.

I hope you read the story of my friend in Australia.

My true advice (as if you want it)?: Run like h*ll and get away from these guys. Loneliness is one thing, trama is another. Run, honey....

[yoot]

technically it was my money (and not much so i don't really care) but it's my friend who is dealing with threats since he was the one who went through this guy for materials.

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Well, it's your money so we shouldn't care about it either.

But, let me tell you something, this isn't the first time I've heard this story. It's kind of a classic old tale, well-prepared but doesn't make sense if you spend a little of your time in thinking about it.

Another question I'd like to ask, did you see materials that your friend picked it up from that guy's house ?

As for being an educated but not 'hi-so' Thai guy, a decent Thai guy can be lovely-fun, happy and generous , but only with decent people as well and won't ask for money from women.

[jomama]

Cheers yoot!

I'm married to a college-educated Thai girl. Not "hi-so", just hard working and decent...

Ther are lots of good Thai people out there, but you won't (usually) meet them in bars or on trekking trips.

[patricktan]

I am working in the Production Factory and have come across that one of our Female operator had a date with our Male operator and the Female operator boy friend which is not working in our Factory come to know about the dating issue. The Female operator boy friends have ask his friends about 12 of the to hammer this poor guys up.( Don't &lt;deleted&gt; around with any girls,check it up first.)

[OxfordWill]

You've been here 8 years so you must have some close and important male friends. Explain or have the situation explained to them and they will surely help you. Sometimes the biggest problems between farangs and thais can be solved by one simple phone call from a fellow thai.

[expatinasia]

I don't get any sense of brains, testicles, or spine in either you or your friend - I was going to suggest that you call your father to make it OK.

Your friend got scammed out of what, a hundred thousand baht, ten thousand baht? Why not chalk it up to a life experience, move on, and let your father have a good night's sleep.

[girlx]

uh, obviously you didn't read the part where i said we did but were threatened afterwards.

[Curt]

isaan people are lovely- fun, happy, generous. the majority of my friends here are isaan or from the islands.

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Another generalization.

I've been coming to Bangkok for about the period of time, on extended visits.

I have found Thais, in general, to be fun-loving, happy, generous.

The only ripoffs artists I've encountered have happened to be Issan or from the islands.

I don't think Issan people are ripoff artists.

I simply believe many that come to Bangkok are here only for money (yathink?).

But, your response to my post only addressed the last quip.

I could suggest reasons why you "have attracted trouble [your] entire life".

Although it might help you avoid future situations, it isn't the problem you addressed in your post.

Besides, you wouldn't have as much "fun".

Try to stay focused!

Did you think about the body of my post?

hopefully it will blow over like my previous situation eventually did. which by the way was similar but not the same

"What to do if threatened by a Thai?"

It's easier to avoid the situation in the first place.